naptu2: I sense that this guy is just opposed to the president and he would have been opposed to whatever action the president took.

naptu2:

1) I do not know of any Kigawa State.

2) Do you have intelligence to show that more boko haram fighters are crossing the border from Katsina than the number crossing the border at Adamawa? Do you have intelligence to show that the threat at Katsina is greater than the threat at Adamawa? How many attacks have there been in Katsina?

3) If he waited in the past, are you saying he should keep waiting forever?

fork adict:
(1) Commo'n man. I meant Jigawa and you know it. That was a forking typo.

(2)Do you also have intelligence to show that more Boko fighters are crossing the border from adamawa than Katsina? Now you are comparing BOKO threats in Katsina with that in Adamawa and I say that their threat is negligible in katsina when compared with Adamawa.

But compare BOKO threats in Kano with that in Adamawa. Which is greater?

3)I am not saying Jona should keep waiting forever. I am saying he should have acted years ago. I am saying that he should have sacked the governors in those states he declared SOE. I am saying that going by frequency and scale of BOKO terror activities (judging by quantum of loss of lives and property) Kano is far ahead on the priority list than Adamawa. I am saying that if he felt compelled to declare SOE in Adamawa then he should have declared SOE in Kano also. that's what I'm saying.

Goddex:

This man, when where you born? No lives were lost in the sharia crisis? The mass killings and spilling of blood in Kano, Kaduna,Niger and Yobe then did not catch your attention? Even our own Victor Moses parents were murdered in cold blood by these blood suckers . . .

naptu2:

I'd like to see your source of intelligence with which you came to the conclusion that there's a greater threat in Kano than Adamawa. I can't take your word for it, because you said that Adamawa has been peaceful, whereas there have been attacks there this month. I also want to know if you have better intelligence than the SSS and NIA.

Ola Johnson: The criminologist is right. The action of the President is Ok but, for me, in the real sense of the word shouldn't be termed "state of emergency" but "curfew". I've not seen anywhere where emergency rule is declared and the governors are not suspended. OBJ declared it and suspended Joshua Dariye and Ayo Fayoshe of Plateau and Ekiti states respectively. Abubakar Tafawa Balewa declared it and suspended S L Akintola of Western Region.

naptu2: (1)You are talking about quantum of killings in the past, you are not talking about intelligence and threats in the future. I'd like to see the source of your threat assessment. Most of the attacks in Kano have been carried out by militants who drove in from other states, whereas there are militant camps across the border from Adamawa in the mountains of cameroon. So, I'd like to see the source of your threat assessment.

(2)Rudeness and insults are used by people who have no points with which to argue. I will not follow you down that route.

naptu2:

Section 308 of the constitution does not give the president the power to suspend the governors (OBJ's action was actually illegal). The 1960 and '63 constitutions gave Balewa the power to suspend Akintola and impose Majekodunmi.

fork adict: Jona dey fear ni. That's the reason. Fear.

Kano and sokoto states are perhaps the most relevant of the northern states judging by history.

So our cowardly presido has anticipated the uproar of making such a move, so he just jejely chose Adamawa.

What a cowardly and Confused murraforker

Ola Johnson:
You're wrong, the constitution doesn't say it doesn't give the President the power to suspend the governors. It is silent about it. OBJ that suspended Dariye and Fayoshe used the same constitution, though not amended then.

Jonathan in order - Sagay, Falana

Two Senior Advocates of Nigeria, Itsay Sagay and Femi Falana, said Jonathan acted within constitutional provisions by not hiding under the declaration of a state of emergency to remove the governors of the affected states.

Both SANs, who spoke separately with our correspondents after the the President's address, said the constitution gave no room for the removal of a governor of a state where a state of emergency was declared.

They both came hard on Obasanjo, who according to them, indulged in "blatant illegality" and "constitutional anomaly" by removing sitting governors under the pretext of a state of emergency.

Citing Section 11 (4 and 5) of the constitution, both Sagay and Falana said that even with its endorsement of the declaration by the President , the National Assembly, cannot go ahead to remove the governors of the affected states.

Sagay said, "What Obasanjo used to do was blatantly unconstitutional and illegal. A state of emergency does not affect the sitting governor or the state house of assembly at all.

"If you look at Section 11 (4 and 5) of the Constitution, you will see that a state of emergency does not affect the tenure of the governor or the House of Assembly. The President has kept to the Constitution. If he had declared any other thing, it would have been illegal."

Falana noted that Jonathan had not followed "the dangerous precedent of ex-President Obasanjo, who hid under the state of emergency to remove elected governors."

He said it was still impossible for a governor to be removed even when the National Assembly took over the legislative responsibilities of the House of Assembly of a state.

fork adict:

(1)The past I am talking about is just a few months ago and not years ago mind you. And talking about intelligence and threats in the future, neither of us has access to that so i could be right and I could be wrong. But let's not argue on abstracts. let us argue based on facts available to us both. and its on this premise that I say that Kano is more critical than adamawa.Simple.
(2)What about people who deliberately misquote what others say? Thereby lying against them to their faces?

naptu2:

I am right. I said the constitution does not give the president the power to remove an elected governor. Now, if you know of any section that gives the president that power, please cite it.

I remember that Gani and other lawyers challenged Obasanjo when he illegally removed the governors. My former political science lecturer was livid! You cannot just remove an elected official without a legal backing for your actions. But Obasanjo committed many illegal acts when he was in power.

The framers of the constitution did not include that provision in the constitution because of what happened in the First Republic, when there was a planned skirmish in the House of Assembly which was used as a pretext to take over an opposition state. Dr Abati was on the 9 o'clock news to stress that the president doesn't have the powers to remove the governors. See the views of eminent legal scholars below.




http://mobile.punchng.com/output.php?link=http://www.punchng.com/news/yobe-adamawa-borno-under-emergency-rule/

modextus: I'm in kano ..and its totally calm..

okoli chibuzor: sorry to post dis.... Our president na woman... And also a fool.... Why didn't he decare emagency rule to kano,sokoto,kadunaa..... Or did de governors of the state didn't pay him age

Ogbeche77: it's always calm until the next suicide bomber comes to town

Ogbeche77: it's always calm until the next suicide bomber comes to town

visiondee: GEJ has made the right decision, starting with the states at hand, just hope my SOLDIER MEN will restore SANITY

fork adict: Jona dey fear ni. That's the reason. Fear.

Kano and sokoto states are perhaps the most relevant of the northern states judging by history.

So our cowardly presido has anticipated the uproar of making such a move, so he just jejely chose Adamawa.

What a cowardly and Confused murraforker

Ogbeche77: it's always calm until the next suicide bomber comes to town

naptu2:

1) So you have no basis for saying that the president was wrong because you do not have the intelligence he has. You do not know if he has intelligence about planned attacks in Adamawa, you do not know what has been done to improve the security situation in Kano. On this very thread a Kano resident has stated that Kano is much more peaceful at the moment. Are you more qualified to determine the state of security in Kano than the resident and the president?

2) What lie?

3) You've still not said what's largely peaceful about Adamawa, bearing in mind that there have been attacks there recently in which people died and the fact that there are militant camps in the mountains across the border.

anonimi:

And what did brave ex-soldier OBJ do when the same north introduced Sharia

Your president GEJ by your estimate is "cowardly & confused murraforker" because you and others who see him as such are even more of such qualifying adjectives.

Can you please tell us what your non-cowardly LGA boss and councillor have done for you lately?
Do you get locked up every last Saturday of the month for ENVIRONMENTAL sanitation that the LGA is already paid to do?
Just a very TINY example of why you are even more "cowardly & confused murraforker".

[size=16pt]BTW, can we hear a political-ogist opinion on Kano being on or off the list. Political scientists and MILITARY STRATEGISTS are more likely to view things from a broader perspective than a criminologist who should be helping the POLICE deal with petty & big crimes. [/size]We are talking here about TERRORISTS who are rapidly getting territorial and need to be dealt with by the ARMED FORCES!

nacosprof: ur comments look so silly, u ar imprudent fellow, U ar the most confused human out here...

Paroh_frey:

Having a head is not the same as having a brain. Cut off your head maybe your brain will resuscitate.

jamil!:


Which I suspect that you are one of them according to the statement above.

Abrakhan.:

Is that what you are hoping for Kano people. But I ll personally pray that the bomber will be in your state where ever you are even of you are outside country. Dis no be matter for joke.

okoli chibuzor: sorry to post dis.... Our president na woman... And also a fool.... Why didn't he decare emagency rule to kano,sokoto,kadunaa..... Or did de governors of the state didn't pay him age

okoli chibuzor: sorry to post dis.... Our president na woman... And also a fool.... Why didn't he decare emagency rule to kano,sokoto,kadunaa..... Or did de governors of the state didn't pay him age