biolabee:

On the basis of available data... if you want to disprove that.. that is another long thing which is not my own concern
That hypothesis is the starting point
Some countries may be higher, others lower

I did not want to raise this cos it could engender further stereotyping but lets go there..


Some more if you up for this



http://www.australianpaternityfraud.org/news/Globe_and_Mail_Mommys_Little_Secret.htm

I still think we should focus on the topic of this thread

It's now widely accepted among those who work in genetics that roughly 10 per cent of us are not fathered by the man we believe to be dad.

Some peg the range at 5 to 10 per cent; others, such as Jeanette Papp of the University of California at Los Angeles, feel that 15 per cent is reasonable for the Western world, even if there is no hard evidence.

The American Association of Blood Banks reports that 30 per cent of men who suspect they are not biological fathers are right.

josite: when he commits adultery or abandoned her or cannot penetrate her

MMotimo:

Ok, I will create a thread. So far, I'm not seeing the rabid misogynist I thought you were

ileobatojo: These are the most conclusive statements you will see from the article.



Note, that it is consensus and there is no hard evidence. So I wonder how someone can claim that the skewed results from one lab in one state in Nigeria concludes the total numbers for the country overall.

Later in that article, you can clearly see the explanation for the 30% number from the AABB. Here it is.



So tell me, how can you use a sample of people that already suspect they are not the father who then go to have their suspicions confirmed as the global average? Of course there will be a high number of results for the simple reason that there was a high level suspicion to start with. It is NOT the same as global average.

StateOfMind:
I meant women can't win with these nairaland men actually, should have included that in my initial post. I agree with your points and I felt the same disgust about them being 'excited' at their responses and concluding they speak for all married women. I guess it makes them feel good that some women are still enduring abuse in marriage as opposed to what females preach on nairaland.

As far as I am concerned, This is in no way a form of discouragement to the #teamsaNOtoviolenceandgetyouractstogether.

From what I have read, majority of the women in this video are lazy and comfortable in their misery, who am I to attempt to remove them?

ileobatojo:
I really hope you don't truly believe all this rubbish you are posting. 50% of tests in his labe means 50% of tests in his lab does not mean 50% of all of Nigeria. Period. Let me know when you actually have a credible source for the random numbers you are throwing around. I'll be waiting.

biolabee: ok. thanks....

ileobatojo:
Well, I'm glad you can finally admit that you've been making up wild stories and numbers this entire time.

The issue of asserting the paternity of a child is a very dicey one and has caused many surprises for men who thought they were the biological fathers of their children. It must be very heartbreaking for a man to think that he is the biological father of a child but after carrying out a DNA test, it proves otherwise.

In a recent interview with The Nation, a DNA expert gave some interesting statistics about the paternity of Nigerian men, saying that at least three out of every ten Nigerian men are not the biological fathers of their kids!

What we have found out is that, anytime we take ten men, at least three of them eventually found that they are not the fathers of the children they call their own. And these men would have taken care of the children for all their lives. Now, the global statistics is 100, 000 out of every 300, 000 men. But what we have found that is that the situation is higher in Nigeria than other places. For example in our laboratory here, 50 per cent of the cases comes out negative. And we also realised that majority of the first-borns are affected. You only need to be here to see big men cry like little kids and watch children weep in agony. It has been that bad.

He further noted that thirty per cent of fathers are unknowingly bringing up children who are not biologically theirs, and the percentage may be on the increase due to sexual recklessness. According to him, negative paternity results is both rampant in matrimony and casual affiliations.

I tell you, we have had series of married men come here and go back home devastated. In one instance, a man came here with his wife. Out of the five children he thought were his own, he discovered that only two belonged to him. And they are both duly married, living together as husband and wife.

As someone who tests about 15 to 20 families weekly, he mentioned some instances that could warrant a man to take the DNA test.

People come here as a result of various types of controversies over the paternity of certain children. You know, families have come to us with claims that a child neither takes after the mother nor the father in looks and character. So, the man of the house would be curious to ascertain facts. And when they come here with such children, the fears of the fathers have often been affirmed. Fathers usually have the doubts; maybe he has been hearing some rumours, and you know, men are often the last to hear such things about themselves. Until many of them come here to take the test, they have nurtured other men’s children before realising it.

http://www.bellanaija.com/2012/10/02/dna-expert-gives-shocking-statistics-3-out-of-10-nigerian-men-are-not-biological-fathers-of-their-children/

coogar:

ileoba, always claiming fake victories
this is another piece...


ileoba, give up - your hands are too short to box with me.

ileobatojo:
You have a penchant for self mutilation don't you? Once again, you quote another article that counters your own statements and supports mine. Lmao!

I'm still waiting for your credible sources. Even this article is quite questionable. How can they say globally 100,000 of every 300,000 (33%) is fathering someone else's child and in Nigeria the number is 3 in 10 (30%), yet Nigeria's numbers are considerably higher? Like I said, please quote credible sources that can get their figures right. Thanks.

coogar:

you have a problem with comprehension!

you are a dork - the 30% figure is the generally accepted stats all over the world but these nigerian experts have found out that it's considerably higher in nigeria than anywhere else.......DNA testing is new in nigeria, there was no prior survey before these doctors did theirs - everyone just accepted the only available figure(the global figure). from the article i quoted, the doctor said 50% of his cases turned out to be negative! i repeat, 50%!!!!

jennykadry: Not coogar and ile again it will be a very long day

jennykadry: Not coogar and ile again it will be a very long day

ileobatojo:
Quit blabbering and post a source for your claim that 50% of Nigerian men are raising bastards.

Now, the global statistics is 100, 000 out of every 300, 000 men. But what we have found that is that the situation is higher in Nigeria than other places. For example in our laboratory here, 50 per cent of the cases comes out negative. And we also realised that majority of the first-borns are affected

In the meantime, let's entertain other nairalanders with a game of spot the difference.

Coogar:
-30% is the global statistic - it's 50% in nigeria
-the 30% figure is the generally accepted stats all over the world but these nigerian experts have found out that it's considerably higher in nigeria than anywhere else

Article Coogar posts to prove his claim:
-a DNA expert gave some interesting statistics about the paternity of Nigerian men, saying that at least three out of every ten Nigerian men are not the biological fathers of their kids!

Can anyone spot the difference?

coogar:



even if you were born brain dead, you should be able to see through this little article.

•global statistics = 30%
•situation is higher in nigeria than other places
•50% of his tests in nigeria came out negative
•he tests 15-20 families per week for the past few years.

time to expose your stupidity in high definition.....

DNA expert said at least three out of every ten men are not the biological fathers of their kids. every 10 cases he chose randomly, 3 or more tested negative. 3 is the least not the median!!!!

you have a problem with statistics - if every 10 test cases brings out 3 that are negative, the expert wouldn't have said the situation is higher in nigeria than anywhere else.

ileobatojo:
Therefore 50% of Nigerian fathers are fathering bastards
This is quite imbecilic even for you.

Quit making a fool of yourself and explain this statement. So if I don't break it down into simplistic parts, you are telling me you are too dull to grasp what is being said.

Okay, here you go. The expert said the situation in Nigeria is higher than everywhere else AND that the Nigerian number is 30%. Therefore the numbers everywhere else must be lower than 30%. Olodo rapata!

coogar:
he never said the nigerian figure is 30%

coogar: no such survey has ever been done in nigeria until now - everyone until now just went with the generally accepted figure = the global figure of 30%

ileobatojo:
Really? Then what is this?

-a DNA expert gave some interesting statistics about the paternity of Nigerian men, saying that at least three out of every ten Nigerian men are not the biological fathers of their kids!

No, the observed results out of a lab going about it's daily business in one region does not qualify as a 'survey' that can be statistically used to be representative of the entire country since it was not designed for that purpose. The doctor himself NEVER said his results represent the whole country. He NEVER said his report replaces the old numbers. He NEVER said so. For the simple reason that it just does not.

The only information we can glean from that is exactly what has been stated. That 50% of the tests he performs in his lab are negative. 50% of the father's that come to his lab for paternity tests are not the father's of the children in question. That's all. There is nothing further to be conclusively deduced from that stat.

I'm done going round in circles. Have a nice day.

some-girl:
English no easy

ileobatojo:

Xxxxx.

biolabee:

If it makes you slEep better at night

@coogar its going down on the shopclue thread

alutacontinua:

Link please

biolabee:

https://www.nairaland.com/1301268/carl-allen-personality-something-say/

alutacontinua:

Thanks, boss!
You made my evening!