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Re: London Beheading From A Different Viewpoint[pix] by Jakumo(m): 5:28pm On May 23, 2013
That picture don't prove chit.

That woman may have had a desire to make the evening news with her foolhardy braveness, or she may have been naively assured by the claims reportedly made by the knife-killer that he and his murdering buddy were only going after "military" targets in their two-man Jihad on the streets of Woolwhich.

Also, one cannot entirely rule out the possibility that the woman was in fact a police officer, holding a loaded pistol at the ready under her jacket, as she attempted negotiate with the seemingly calm man, to make him lay down that scary meat cleaver. If this is the case here, my hat is off to that woman for her calm and collected demeanor, even as she faced down a life-threatening peril.
Re: London Beheading From A Different Viewpoint[pix] by 2legit2qwt: 5:28pm On May 23, 2013
Considering the type of murder that had just being committed, I share the view that something just ain't right about people not panicking and trying to get away from the scene.

I mean, with all the terrorist attacks going on around the world and psychos killing innocent people everywhere, you'd think the awareness now is at a all time high and people are being really careful and on the alert.

Come on, someone was just beheaded and the killer right there, still armed and walking around and people acting like it's a normal thing and even granting him an interview.

I don't normally buy into conspiracy theories but this just ain't right and realistic enough

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Re: London Beheading From A Different Viewpoint[pix] by gbadexy(m): 5:29pm On May 23, 2013
^
Even if the decapitated body was moved some distance to the resting place, there would be blood trail.
Also, the heart pumps faster due to adrenaline at the sign of danger, seeing machete wielding men approach him, knocked down or even from the fear at the realization he was going to slaughtered. Besides I heard he was cut severally and not beheaded instantly, so his heart must have been beating fast like crazy with blood splatters.
There are arteries on the neck and the blood would split a far distance and pool considerably on severing the head.
U never see chicken butchered before?

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Re: London Beheading From A Different Viewpoint[pix] by Rossikk(m): 5:30pm On May 23, 2013
Atheist:-D:


When you start putting together nonsense with poor evidence and inferring more nonsense with the deliberate intent to incite people then you are causing mayhem. Not you of course but I refer to a lot of these conspiracy crack pots. Mind you, there are a lot of nutjobs on the internet with confused minds who lack the ability to objectively question, understand fully, recognise fact and detail from fiction and inference. These types wont ask further questions, they will just believe what they see and start acting based on that.

I once spoke to an educated young lad who from the internet had come across the story of a russia drilling crew, drilling all the way to hell. The lad believed it. I had to really make serious efforts to convince the lad otherwise. This sort of lad would not be able to objectively question and challenge any conspiracy theory brought about to incite.

Because there are 'nut job' conspiracy theorists does not mean that ALL conspiracy theorists are 'nutjobs' or that ALL questioning of official accounts is misguided. Why do you trust western govts so much? I'm sure you have no trust for the Nigerian govt. I suspect you suffer the same mental slavery disease suffered by many Africans, who out of inferiority complex or whatever reason, simply cannot find themselves critically assessing western nations or governments. Were these not the same people that sold the world the myth that Saddam Hussein possessed nuclear weapons just about to strike the west, when they knew full well he didn't? Today, the US is in control of Iraqi oil. (Oh but it was all due to an 'innocent mistake' wasn't it?)

Why are their official accounts and pronouncements sacrosanct in your view? Even in the US you have groups comprising HUNDREDS of engineering professionals, who dispute their govt's 9/11 accounts with hard evidence. Their findings are ignored by the mainstream media ..of course.

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Re: London Beheading From A Different Viewpoint[pix] by DisGuy: 5:35pm On May 23, 2013
Atheist:-D:


When you start putting together nonsense with poor evidence and inferring more nonsense with the deliberate intent to incite people then you are causing mayhem. Not you of course but I refer to a lot of these conspiracy crack pots. Mind you, there are a lot of nutjobs on the internet with confused minds who lack the ability to objectively question, understand fully, recognise fact and detail from fiction and inference. These types wont ask further questions, they will just believe what they see and start acting based on that.

[b]once spoke to an educated young lad who from the internet had come across the story of a russia drilling crew, drilling all the way to hell. The lad believed it. I had to really make serious efforts to convince the lad otherwise.[/b]s sort of lad would not be able to objectively question and challenge any conspiracy theory brought about to incite.

exactly, back in college some smart girl telling me everything about new world order, how obama was recruited blaah she was actually angry that i was laughing at the idea, some other muppet told me to listen to Jay Z album backwards lol some paster played the tape backward huuuuuh? wtf
Re: London Beheading From A Different Viewpoint[pix] by SexSkillz: 5:37pm On May 23, 2013
This same conspiracy started on 4chan hours ago.

Don't believe all you read on the internet.
Re: London Beheading From A Different Viewpoint[pix] by Jakumo(m): 5:41pm On May 23, 2013
Here is my theory about conspiracy theorists.

Most, if not all conspiracy theorists apply their fictitious spin on news stories because the theorists are desperate to prove that they are gifted with superior intellectual powers that enable them to discern hidden meanings and mysterious linkages between unrelated events that are not seen by mere mortals, even if all the stories are little more than B-movie-script fables fabricated by bored minds seeking attention.

That said, I did spot Elvis Presley driving a mint '65 Ford Mutang on the westbound Santa Monica Freeway a few nights ago when it was a full moon. The guy in the passenger seat looked a lot like Howard Hughes from the tilt of his fedora hat, but I'm not completely sure about that one.

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Re: London Beheading From A Different Viewpoint[pix] by Rossikk(m): 5:43pm On May 23, 2013
Jakumo: Here is my theory about conspiracy theorists.

Most, if not all conspiracy theorists apply their fictitious spin on news stories because the theorists are desperate to prove that they are gifted with superior intellectual powers that enable them to discern hidden meanings and mysterious linkages between unrelated events that are not seen by mere mortals, even if all the stories are little more than B-movie-script fables fabircated by bored minds seeking attention.

That said, I did spot Elvis Presley driving a mint '65 Ford Mutang on the westbound Santa Monica Freeway a few nights ago when it was a full moon. The guy in the passenger seat looked a lot like Howard Hughes from the tilt of his fedora hat, but I'm not completely sure about that one.

You sound like a typical overfed western suburban wan.k.er.

Do you question anything at all the western govts and their mainstream news outlets claim?

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Re: London Beheading From A Different Viewpoint[pix] by Jakumo(m): 5:45pm On May 23, 2013
Ha ha I do enjoy pornn, but fortunately don't have to choke the lizard in response to the sights I see there. I just summon my girl, who can be very helpful at times like that.
Re: London Beheading From A Different Viewpoint[pix] by AtheistD(m): 5:55pm On May 23, 2013
Rossikk:

Because there are 'nut job' conspiracy theorists does not mean that ALL conspiracy theorists are 'nutjobs' or that ALL questioning of official accounts is misguided. Why do you trust western govts so much? I'm sure you have no trust for the Nigerian govt. I suspect you suffer the same mental slavery disease suffered by many Africans, who out of inferiority complex or whatever reason, simply cannot find themselves critically assessing western nations or governments. Were these not the same people that sold the world the myth that Saddam Hussein possessed nuclear weapons just about to strike the west, when they knew full well he didn't? Today, the US is in control of Iraqi oil. (Oh but it was all due to an 'innocent mistake' wasn't it?)

Why are their official accounts and pronouncements sacrosanct in your view? Even in the US you have groups comprising HUNDREDS of engineering professionals, who dispute their govt's 9/11 accounts with hard evidence. Their findings are ignored by the mainstream media ..of course.




I am not against all conspiracy theorists but against those that are outright demeaning, dangerous and inciting.

There were loads of "so called" scientists and engineers who came out to support conspiracy theorists claiming that the moon landings were faked. Hell I watched loads of programs on it. We all know it happened so how do you explain all the crack pots.
Re: London Beheading From A Different Viewpoint[pix] by babsjnr(m): 5:56pm On May 23, 2013
Rossikk:

Why would this passer-by, A WOMAN, calmly walk up close to this man who has just cut off a man's head on the street, and who is still brandishing the knife? Who the hell does this?
those two boys said is only women are allow to get closer to the victim... they even apologies to women for witnessed the horrific scenes
Re: London Beheading From A Different Viewpoint[pix] by Ruq: 6:05pm On May 23, 2013
There aren't dead yet wounded, still in the hospital

And as the story stated they killed and dragged him to the road, the blood must have been where he was bludgeoned to death.

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Re: London Beheading From A Different Viewpoint[pix] by Ruq: 6:10pm On May 23, 2013
As much as i would like to believe this, stating the set marks as if it were a film makes it very daft.
Re: London Beheading From A Different Viewpoint[pix] by stevecantrell: 6:11pm On May 23, 2013
So what are we saying here ?

Are these guys thespians from the Stratford theatre group ?
Re: London Beheading From A Different Viewpoint[pix] by Ruq: 7:03pm On May 23, 2013
steve_cantrell: So what are we saying here ?

Are these guys thespians from the Stratford theatre group ?

My thought exactly. Thanks

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Re: London Beheading From A Different Viewpoint[pix] by tpia5: 8:13pm On May 23, 2013
Rossikk:

Why would this passer-by, A WOMAN, calmly walk up close to this man who has just cut off a man's head on the street, and who is still brandishing the knife? Who the hell does this?


Very very interesting.

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Re: London Beheading From A Different Viewpoint[pix] by Fussbot: 9:10pm On May 23, 2013
*barman!pls give me 2 bottles of star and 1 plate of peppersoup,I have a thread 2 follow here*

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Re: London Beheading From A Different Viewpoint[pix] by Horus(m): 9:32pm On May 23, 2013
[quote author=Rossikk]

Something strange here on the picture: The level of damage on the car doesn't match-up with the posts outcome.
Re: London Beheading From A Different Viewpoint[pix] by Nobody: 9:32pm On May 23, 2013


Where did this blood come from?
The dude was dragged from the curbside and dropped on the road.

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Re: London Beheading From A Different Viewpoint[pix] by seagulsntrawler: 10:35pm On May 23, 2013
Jakumo: Here is my theory about conspiracy theorists.

Most, if not all conspiracy theorists apply their fictitious spin on news stories because the theorists are desperate to prove that they are gifted with superior intellectual powers that enable them to discern hidden meanings and mysterious linkages between unrelated events that are not seen by mere mortals, even if all the stories are little more than B-movie-script fables fabricated by bored minds seeking attention.

That said, I did spot Elvis Presley driving a mint '65 Ford Mutang on the westbound Santa Monica Freeway a few nights ago when it was a full moon. The guy in the passenger seat looked a lot like Howard Hughes from the tilt of his fedora hat, but I'm not completely sure about that one.


Its easy to label people who question main stream media reporting as 'crazy conspiracy theorists'. Recent violent events in the US and Europe have not helped to allay these fears. I think it is the 'problem-reaction-solution' principle in play. Who stands to benefit from all these?Think about it for a minute? To label all moslems as terrorists and to impose draconian laws(gun control,the patriot act, money laundering acts, phone taps, not to mention the unending data gathering in banks, phone companies etc) on the unsuspecting citizenry. The world as we have come to know it is a very strange place with lots of questions and yet few answers. If you think false flags operations carried out by secret service agencies of the major world powers are not common then research 'Sirhan Sirhan and Robert Kennedy's shooting and the batman shooting suspect's first appearance in court'. The evidences surrounding the two events, points to mind controlled victims being used to achieve an agenda. Peace.

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Re: London Beheading From A Different Viewpoint[pix] by thegoodjoehunt(m): 11:48pm On May 23, 2013
Jakumo: Yeah, it was only a matter of time before the conspiracy theorists would emerge from the wood-work.

A whole bunch of eye-witnsses watch helpless as two armed men commit murder in broad daylight, and this muffuguh comes up with a bunch of meaningless pictures that are supposed to prove that the whole crime was staged by the British government. Oh well, at least the muffuguh ain't blaming no little green men from Mars and chit.

Hey Chubie, don't you bogart that doobie, 'cause youd'n had enough already homie. You is already high than th'muffuguh, and you need to go sleep that chit off before you phuck around and wig the phuck out in the street, just like those two crazy muffugus you think are government agents.

Obama is bombing marathon races and shooting kids in America to take away guns. Cameron is beheading to take away knives. These conspiracy theorist will not kill us.


I hope you guys have apologized to the kid whose life was in jeopardy because of all these conspiracy stunts. angry







https://www.nairaland.com/1262513/teenage-boy-wrongly-identified-boston
Re: London Beheading From A Different Viewpoint[pix] by thegoodjoehunt(m): 11:57pm On May 23, 2013
Atheist:-D:


These conspiracy theorists are part of the problem too. They are using the internet to radicalise schizophrenics and convert them to dodgy anarchistic causes. They need to be clamped down too. One world order... babylon govt, rothschilds and the jewish order, masonic order etc. Too many dodgy conspiracy theories flying about.

Very true. The works of Conspiracy theorists are the new fuel for Terrorism. In terrorist camps, I believe that things like this are what is used to radicalized converts and make them believe they are fighting evil.
Re: London Beheading From A Different Viewpoint[pix] by dayokanu(m): 12:10am On May 24, 2013
[size=15pt]Where is Musiwa to show us his GADDEMM satellite pictures[/size]
Re: London Beheading From A Different Viewpoint[pix] by tpia5: 12:14am On May 24, 2013
thegoodjoehunt:

Obama is bombing marathon races and shooting kids in America to take away guns. Cameron is beheading to take away knives. These conspiracy theorist will not kill us.


I hope you guys have apologized to the kid whose life was in jeopardy because of all these conspiracy stunts. angry




https://www.nairaland.com/1262513/teenage-boy-wrongly-identified-boston


What point are you trying to make and what does this story have to do with conspiracy theorists?


I fail to see the correlation.
Re: London Beheading From A Different Viewpoint[pix] by thegoodjoehunt(m): 12:30am On May 24, 2013
tpia@:



What point are you trying to make and what does this story have to do with conspiracy theorists?


I fail to see the correlation.

The conspiracy theorists, did their photoshop stuff and accused that kid of being one of the bombers while he was a marathon runner who came to watch his senior colleagues. The kid was scared of his life because his picture went viral online and many was looking for him as one of the bombers. angry

I am saying that these conspiracy theorists are not the gospel and one should not cling on what they say.

Look at Alex Jones rant against

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_XZvMwcluEg

It is people like this spreading these conspiracy theorist that people follow. Many of the just want youtube views.

Many of them are the problem.
Re: London Beheading From A Different Viewpoint[pix] by tpia5: 12:32am On May 24, 2013
That wasnt a conspiracy scenario.

There were no conspiracies involved.
Re: London Beheading From A Different Viewpoint[pix] by thegoodjoehunt(m): 12:44am On May 24, 2013
tpia@:
That wasnt a conspiracy scenario.

There were no conspiracies involved.

It was a conspiracy scenario. The conspiracy theorists were trying to catch the bombers before the government releases faces as the bombers. Only for them to start pointing out innocent people. Check those who released the pictures. They were conspiracy theorists.
Re: London Beheading From A Different Viewpoint[pix] by Nobody: 12:45am On May 24, 2013
I don't even know what to say again.... but I think I saw blood on another picture shown there...

The calmness is very disturbing though. No society is used to that kind of gore..

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Re: London Beheading From A Different Viewpoint[pix] by coogar: 2:50am On May 24, 2013
9jaganja: I don't even know what to say again.... but I think I saw blood on another picture shown there...

The calmness is very disturbing though. No society is used to that kind of gore..

they were shocked and that's britain for you...
it's the culture - don't get involved, if unsure, dial 999. the woman with the buggy wouldn't have expected anyone to be maimed in broad daylight. besides, did she even see the knife? the attacker was facing away from her and people generally mind their business in the UK.
Re: London Beheading From A Different Viewpoint[pix] by tigereyes: 3:07am On May 24, 2013
Where is the blood? I have seen many deaths and blood is everywhere. You cannot cut a throat without blood and blood spatter.
Re: London Beheading From A Different Viewpoint[pix] by Kairoseki77: 4:33am On May 24, 2013
Rossikk:

Because there are 'nut job' conspiracy theorists does not mean that ALL conspiracy theorists are 'nutjobs' or that ALL questioning of official accounts is misguided. Why do you trust western govts so much? I'm sure you have no trust for the Nigerian govt. I suspect you suffer the same mental slavery disease suffered by many Africans, who out of inferiority complex or whatever reason, simply cannot find themselves critically assessing western nations or governments. Were these not the same people that sold the world the myth that Saddam Hussein possessed nuclear weapons just about to strike the west, when they knew full well he didn't? Today, the US is in control of Iraqi oil. (Oh but it was all due to an 'innocent mistake' wasn't it?)

Why are their official accounts and pronouncements sacrosanct in your view? Even in the US you have groups comprising HUNDREDS of engineering professionals, who dispute their govt's 9/11 accounts with hard evidence. Their findings are ignored by the mainstream media ..of course.




Rossikk...you sound crazy bro.

Sometimes it's best to just be quiet.

It is better to remain silent and be thought a fool, than to open your mouth and remove all doubt . -- George Eliot

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