i thought 18 governors voted for ameachi out of the 35 governors

Now the Governors' forum has 2 factions; just like OPC, Boko Haram, etc. which way Nigeria?

Help, our leaders have gone mad again!. Nigerian Governors' Forum, South South Governors Forum, South East Governors' Forum, North East, North West, PDP, Aso Rock, Oodua, Aunty Patience Governors' Fora etc. Somebody please tell, how does this translate into good governance, what is in any of these for the electorate? Governors Forum my foot, these guys are nothing but jokers and the unfortunate aspect of it all is that we, the governed, are at the receiving end since all of them are also looters so, we have Jokers and Looters as leaders.

And lest I forget, if the election that Amaechi claimed to have won was fraudulent, does that automatically made Jang the winner of that same election or has there been another election?

Governors that vote for ameachi r lagos ogun osun ekiti oyo edo borno yobe zamfara nassarawa and imo all oposition party while pdp governor r kano jigawa niger adamawa kwara kebbi and sokoto. So among the 7 pdp governors. I know 4 governor will leave ameachi side that kano jigawa niger and adamawa but other am not sure that kwara kebbi and sokoto

lagcity: chai! Mimiko, when are u coming home? the more we pull you, the more you run away. WTF is ya problem? so GEJ and Akpabio are now your buddies ehn?

Which home Don't tell me you expect Iroko to join those gang of fake progressives that prefers to serve feudal lords! We are too politically sophisticated in ondo state for that stunt tinubu is trying to pull.

lagcity: chai! Mimiko, when are u coming home? the more we pull you, the more you run away. WTF is ya problem? so GEJ and Akpabio are now your buddies ehn?

Which home Don't tell me you expect Iroko to join those gang of fake progressives that prefers to serve feudal lords! We are too politically sophisticated in ondo state for that stunt tinubu is trying to pull.

The day Iroko joins APC signals the end of his political career.

donfineboi:


U need to do ur research very well bro. It was the support GEJ got from the SW region that led to his victory at the polls last presidential elections. If u did ur research well u'll no that CPC won in all the core northern states. If you compare the election results you will know that the margin was the closest in all the 4th republic election results.
Things may not be the same for GEJ this time around. Judging from his administration, his performance is barely below average. The SW voted for GEJ not the PDP, but now they have realised there's no difference, so the sympathy vote ish won't play in next election. The SW people are the most enlightened in the country. Unlike other zones who cast their votes on ethnic grounds

Yoruba votes helped GEJ win which election? Why are Yoruba people so full of themselves and have this overbloated sense of political importance. Don't think because the SW controls the media, you can ram down outright lies down our throats as facts. If anything, the SW region was demystified by GEJ's election victory, he proved to them that with or with a total support from them, so long as he had the backings of the entire eastern region, the SW can either tag along or stay in opposition raanting while he, Jonathan wins that election. The SW showed its political strength and influence by putting in a total of 2.8 million votes, Lagos accounting for about 45% of the votes. Knowing how the population of Lagos is constituted it will be folly to attribute JEG's heavy victory there to the Yoruba people. Now facing the core Yoruba states, by calculations, their votes number was inconsequential to influence anything even though just like every other states the Presidency needed at least 25% votes from every state.
You guyz need to stop arrogating to yourself some fictitious importance in winning the elections for GEJ, any subregion should make noise about giving him the victory or putting him there, it is the SE, and they have continued to give him that same support regardless without using it as an object to arm twist or manipulate the presidency. The SW did the least in bringing JEG to Aso rock, that is the fact that a million propaganda can not change.

[quote author=Larryfly]Jang should go look for something reasonable to do in his troubled state and stop mingling himself in this ngf politics...he should come and ask amaechi how he managed to quell the crisis that almost left rivers looking like jos.....amaechi deserves the ngf chairman[/quote
Thank you! I don't support any of these two but gov Jang should go and put his house in order first. What was he thinking contesting for ngf chairmanship in the first place. Ole, alainikanshe,mtchew

rhymz: Yoruba votes helped GEJ win which election? Why are Yoruba people so full of themselves and have this overbloated sense of political importance. Don't think because the SW controls the media, you can ram down outright lies down our throats as facts. If anything, the SW region was demystified by GEJ's election victory, he proved to them that with or with a total support from them, so long as he had the backings of the entire eastern region, the SW can either tag along or stay in opposition raanting while he, Jonathan wins that election. The SW showed its political strength and influence by putting in a total of 2.8 million votes, Lagos accounting for about 45% of the votes. Knowing how the population of Lagos is constituted it will be folly to attribute JEG's heavy victory there to the Yoruba people.
Now facing the core Yoruba states, by calculations, their votes number was inconsequential to influence anything even though just like every other states the Presidency needed at least 25% votes from every state.
You guyz need to stop arrogating to yourself some fictitious importance in winning the elections for GEJ, any subregion should make noise about giving him the victory or putting him there, it is the SE, and they have continued to give him that same support regardless without using it as an object to arm twist or manipulate the presidency. The SW did the least in bringing JEG to Aso rock, that is the fact that a million propaganda can not change.

Look at it this way. Do u think that GEJ can win without the SW? Let's do the math, last election GEJ carried the entire SS/SE zones, all the SW states except Osun, and all the middle belt states except Niger. This time around without the SW it will be much harder for GEJ to win in 2015. If he gets support frm the entire SS/SE states and some middle belt states it won't be enough to bring him victory.

donfineboi:


Look at it this way. Do u think that GEJ can win without the SW? Let's do the math, last election GEJ carried the entire SS/SE zones, all the SW states except Osun, and all the middle belt states except Niger. This time around without the SW it will be much harder for GEJ to win in 2015. If he gets support frm the entire SS/SE states and some middle belt states it won't be enough to bring him victory.

First of all, SW and Yoruba are not exactly the same thing. SW comprises of people from all over Nigeria, especially Lagos. Most GEJ votes from Lagos in 2011 was from Non indegenes. The Yorubas were not exactly inspired to go out and vote for him. If you doubt me, check the figures of Presidential and governorship and see the disparity. Yorubas came out more for Fashola.

Secondly, The Yorubas do not have a united front. They will only have a united front if the candidate is a Yoruba man. ACN did not get up to half of the votes in Oyo and Ogun remember? They only won because of PDP crisis where votes were shared between PPN/PDP, Accord/PDP. Ondo is on their own. Most of you claim to speak for the south west but you surely dont. You dont even speak for Yorubas. Most Yoruba Christians will not vote for a Muslim candidate from the north in 2015. You can quote me on that!

Symphony007: ameachi will definitely converge his. And the difference will be so clear..while this jang governours forum will be busy licking jonathan's ass clean and never standing up to him for anything..ameachi's group will engage the president in a meaningfull debate on the direction of the country and demand answers on things like his subsidy corruption scandal. And mind you jangs group is made up of insignificant states while ameachi's group has the two foremost states in the country, lagos and rivers. Jonathan will seat up.

@Symphony, you have clearly displayed your little understanding of politics. Amaechi can not and will not converge any meeting. He simply has not got the liver and even if he forces it, there wont be more than 5 govs in attendance. Not even Aliyu of Niger state will dare. Pls be rightly informed. The powers of the CIC is enormous!

filcast:
@Symphony, you have clearly displayed your little understanding of politics. Amaechi can not and will not converge any meeting. He simply has not got the liver and even if he forces it, there wont be more than 5 govs in attendance. Not even Aliyu of Niger state will dare. Pls be rightly informed. The powers of the CIC is enormous!

In the words of a man who has been burnt/humbled by the powers of a C-in-C:

[/quote]Speaking on the alleged face-off between President Goodluck Jonathan and Rivers State governor and chairman of Nigeria Governors Forum (NGF), Rt. Hon. Rotimi Amaechi, Alamieyeseigha cautioned Amaechi, asking him to learn from his own experience.
“I have told Amaechi himself that he should learn from my experience, that nobody tries government. He should learn that after God, it is government. Amaechi is in a regional government. There is Federal Government and there is a president and the Commander-in- Chief of the Armed Forces.[quote]

onatisi:
yorubas may not vote for pdp at the state elections or let me say pdp will find it tough winning some states but for the federal or presidency mark my words 70% of yoruba will vote for gej .

@onatisi its so clear u are not a yoruba man. Your sentiment for GEJ will not change anything. If u don't know the same way people voted jonathan they will vote him out.and that's why your SS leaders is already shouting war. Ask them Fool

thelastpope10:

First of all, SW and Yoruba are not exactly the same thing. SW comprises of people from all over Nigeria, especially Lagos. Most GEJ votes from Lagos in 2011 was from Non indegenes. The Yorubas were not exactly inspired to go out and vote for him. If you doubt me, check the figures of Presidential and governorship and see the disparity. Yorubas came out more for Fashola.

Secondly, The Torubas does not have a united front. They will only have a united front if the candidate is a Yoruba man. ACn did not get up to half of the votes in Oyo and Ogun remember? They only won because of PDP crisis where votes were shared between PPN/PDP, Accord/PDP. Ondo is on their own. Most of you claim to speak for the south west but you surely dont. You dont even speak for Yorubas. Most Yoruba Christians will not vote for a Muslim candidate from the north in 2015. You can quote me on that!

They more yorubas in the SW than any other tribe living there. Yoruba happens to be the largest tribe in Nigeria if you don't know. They span from lagos to Kogi n kwara states in the northern region. There's no other tribe that spread in such geographical land mass in nigeria. The entire SW is predominantly yoruba with a rough estimate of 80%. In lagos state we have yorubas from other states living there apart from the indigenous yorubas living there, still they are more yorubas in lagos than other tribes combined. My point is, the SW was a vital voting block for GEJ in 2011 and without the SW it will be almost impossible for GEJ to win next election.
As I said b4 yorubas are very enlightened and independent people. Once the people from the SW taste your leadership and they find u lacking, they will go for another. That has been the nature of the SW, unlike other regions. The SW voted for GEJ based on his supposed humility, and his "No shoes talk" and the mere fact that they were sentimental towards him. You need to know one thing, an average SW guy takes in details, all these corruption here n there, and other poor administrative performances are always noted.
The yoruba people can vote for any progressive person even though his an ijaw man or an ex head of state from kastina. Yorubas are progressives, once they taste u and u are bitter, they won't make the mistake again putting you in their mouth.

donfineboi:


Look at it this way. Do u think that GEJ can win without the SW? Let's do the math, last election GEJ carried the entire SS/SE zones, all the SW states except Osun, and all the middle belt states except Niger. This time around without the SW it will be much harder for GEJ to win in 2015. If he gets support frm the entire SS/SE states and some middle belt states it won't be enough to bring him victory.

obj won in 1999 without the sw backing

there is a wrong impression about the south west which the media are forcing on ppl and that is all or majority of yorubas like ACN,this is a very very wrong assumption infact i will say maybe just 50% of yoruba eligible voters like acn.in actual fact pdp still controls a very large percentage of voters in each state of the south west

isetilaye:

obj won in 1999 without the sw backing

Yes I agree, but now the tide is different. The north are bent on being president. If the north gets backing frm the SW they hve the numbers to win. The SS/SE is not enough for GEJ

isetilaye: there is a wrong impression about the south west which the media are forcing on ppl and that is all or majority of yorubas like ACN,this is a very very wrong assumption infact i will say maybe just 50% of yoruba eligible voters like acn.in actual fact pdp still controls a very large percentage of voters in each state of the south west

PDP is almost extinct in the SW, u don't need a rocket scientist to tell u that....

donfineboi:

Yes I agree, but now the tide is different. The north are bent on being president. If the north gets backing frm the SW they hve the numbers to win. The SS/SE is not enough for GEJ

the only party the northern elites and power brookers can with in the south is pdp.
the northern elites will never never work with tinubu or acn

isetilaye:
the only party the northern elites and power brookers can with in the south is pdp.
the northern elites will never never work with tinubu or acn

Buhari didn't need the northern elites to win all the core northern states in 2011. Buhari won them easily. Northern elites are basically PDP and Buhari's political clout is far greater than theirs combined. If buhari aligns with the SW its dooms day for PDP. Its going to be very hard if APC fields Buhari/tinubu or fashola. Or even Buhari/Rochas.

donfineboi:

PDP is almost extinct in the SW, u don't need a rocket scientist to tell u that....

You are politically very naive . . . Reference your erroneous assertion with the most recent gubernatorial election in the SW which happened in Ondo State

Am waiting . . .

jmaine:

You are politically very naive . . . Reference your erroneous assertion with the most recent gubernatorial election in the SW which happened in Ondo State

Am waiting . . .

Thanx. You need to know one thing about the SW once you are tasted and you are found to be impressive they will support you. In ondo state AC.N was the underdog but still they hard an impressive result. Why didn't PDP win the elections there? Try do ur research properly. PDP is a dying party in the SW. The SW has had its fare share of PDP and they have found it lacking.... Are you not in nigeria?

donfineboi:


Buhari didn't need the northern elites to win all the core northern states in 2011. Buhari won them easily. Northern elites are basically PDP and Buhari's political clout is far greater than theirs combined. If buhari aligns with the SW its dooms day for PDP. Its going to be very hard if APC fields Buhari/tinubu or fashola. Or even Buhari/Rochas.

ok brother lets start it like this,ho many states are in the north and ho many did buhari win?
the northern elites will never allow buhari to win ,he cant be trusted to protect their interest.on the part of yorubas ,once the yorubas see a northerner as apc or acn candidate i swear they will vote for pdp,pls u need to be on ground to know this .

donfineboi:

Thanx. You need to know one thing about the SW once you are tasted and you are found to be impressive they will support you. In ondo state AC.N was the underdog but still they hard an impressive result. Why didn't PDP win the elections there? Try do ur research properly. PDP is a dying party in the SW. The SW has had its fare share of PDP and they have found it lacking.... Are you not in nigeria?

iroko is a pdp man .it is just a matter of time before he moves back to pdp,the game pdp played in the ondo politics was to be a spoiler which they did ,they divided the votes ,if pdp hadnt contested it would have been acn vs pdp which could have tilted either but with pdp there the acn votes got divided

donfineboi:

PDP is almost extinct in the SW, u don't need a rocket scientist to tell u that....

PDP almost extinct in SW? bro abeg pass me that calabash I need to know that thing you have been drinking!

isetilaye:
ok brother lets start it like this,ho many states are in the north and ho many did buhari win?
the northern elites will never allow buhari to win ,he cant be trusted to protect their interest.on the part of yorubas ,once the yorubas see a northerner as apc or acn candidate i swear they will vote for pdp,pls u need to be on ground to know this .

They are 19 states in the north, buhari won about 11 of them single handed. That's under CPC with meager funding. With APC buhari's popularity in the North and the deep pockets of ACN. They would be able to canvass for more states within their folds. You need to know one thing the yorubas are not fickle minded people. They are not concerned about religion, what they are after is performance.

isetilaye:
iroko is a pdp man .it is just a matter of time before he moves back to pdp,the game pdp played in the ondo politics was to be a spoiler which they did ,they divided the votes ,if pdp hadnt contested it would have been acn vs pdp which could have tilted either but with pdp there the acn votes got divided

Iroko is a very smart man and he knows too well... He has an understanding with the central govt. Just an understanding which is similar to APGA's obi of anambra state. They will never sink the identity of their party to become a small fry in PDP.

tomakint:
PDP almost extinct in SW? bro abeg pass me that calabash I need to know that thing you have been drinking!

Omo na fermented kunu I dey sip o... Or do u think PDP can win any gubernatorial election in the SW again? They shot demselves on the foot when they had the chance... U need to go around and see for urself. The SW especially Ogun, Oyo, osun has been redefined. I have seen them with my eyes the development that has taken place in those states.

Plain silliness.

rhymz: Yoruba votes helped GEJ win which election? Why are Yoruba people so full of themselves and have this overbloated sense of political importance. Don't think because the SW controls the media, you can ram down outright lies down our throats as facts. If anything, the SW region was demystified by GEJ's election victory, he proved to them that with or with a total support from them, so long as he had the backings of the entire eastern region, the SW can either tag along or stay in opposition raanting while he, Jonathan wins that election. The SW showed its political strength and influence by putting in a total of 2.8 million votes, Lagos accounting for about 45% of the votes. Knowing how the population of Lagos is constituted it will be folly to attribute JEG's heavy victory there to the Yoruba people. Now facing the core Yoruba states, by calculations, their votes number was inconsequential to influence anything even though just like every other states the Presidency needed at least 25% votes from every state.
You guyz need to stop arrogating to yourself some fictitious importance in winning the elections for GEJ, any subregion should make noise about giving him the victory or putting him there, it is the SE, and they have continued to give him that same support regardless without using it as an object to arm twist or manipulate the presidency. The SW did the least in bringing JEG to Aso rock, that is the fact that a million propaganda can not change.

Is it the same Jang that could not make any meaningful impact in Plateau state?

donfineboi:

Thanx. You need to know one thing about the SW once you are tasted and you are found to be impressive they will support you. In ondo state AC.N was the underdog but still they hard an impressive result. Why didn't PDP win the elections there? Try do ur research properly. PDP is a dying party in the SW. The SW has had its fare share of PDP and they have found it lacking.... Are you not in nigeria?

With all due respect. . .You simply said nothing . . . . Mimiko towering political image and followership was the only reason the PDP didn't win . . .The ACN with all the ill configured blackmail of Mimiko by Tinubu ended woefully . . .

Note the key word woefully . . .

The PDP is very alive in the SW . .Even the ACN strong lords are aware of that cold facts, only a political novice will feel otherwise . . . .