exxell:

Voila.... Clear evidence(s) of why there is discrimination against HND holders!

spiritfada: THE Senate has waded into the 67-day-old strike by the Academic Staff Union of Polytechnics ASUP, raising hope of imminent resolution.

President of ASUP, Dr. Chibuzor Asomugha, said yesterday that the Senate Committee on Education has intervened to end the protracted industrial action.

According to him:”The Senate Committee has pledged to intervene and meet with the Secretary to the Government of the Federation (SGF) and the Office of Accountant-General of the Federation with a view to sorting out issues around the completion of appointment of members of governing councils of six polytechnics and the Integrated Personnel and Payroll Information System (IPPIS) imbroglio.”

Asomugha, who described the ASUP meeting with Senate Committee as fruitful, said “specific assignments were given to different stakeholders with Tuesday next week as deadline for results.”

Present at the intervention meeting were members of the Senate Committee on Education, Education Minister, Professor Ruqayyatu Rufa’i and Minister of Labour and Productivity,  Chief Emeka Wogu.

Also present were Executive Secretary of the National Board for Technical Education, NBTE, Dr. Mas’udu A. Kazaure;  National Publicity Secretary, ASUP, Mr. Clement Chairman; Permanent Secretary (Education) and Director of Establishment (Head Of Service)

It would be recalled that ASUP embarked on nationwide indefinite strike on April 29 over what they termed Federal Government’s insensitivity to its demands.

ASUP is asking government to adequately fund polytechnics, appoint qualified rectors in Nigerian Polytechnics, and resolve the issue of integrated polytechnic pay-roll system, among others.

Source: http://www.vanguardngr.com/2013/07/senate-moves-to-end-67-day-old-asup-strike/

Uzodarling: True talk broda I Ω̴̩̩̩̥Ơ̴̴͡ know y all dis poly dudes want answer engineers instead of technicians ά̲̣̥πϑ technologist wen dem Ω̴̩̩̩̥Ơ̴̴͡ fit pass common post UME enter university.......M̶̲̥̅γ̲̣̣̥ Engineering degree Ω̴̩̩̩̥Ơ̴̴͡ be beans if dem Ω̴̩̩̩̥Ơ̴̴͡ like poly again with better GP dem F̶̲̥̅̊☺ґ enter university through direct entry
na....mtscheeeeew

double3:
Young fellow,u can't expect to be trained as a technician n wanto end up answering an engineer,u should know better. In the field of engineering, we have the engineers, the technicians, the technologist, the craftmen, and the artisans. So u can't be trained to be a crafts man or technologist n come out tomorrow n wanto rub shoulders with an engineering degree holder; I don't think its done anywhere in the world(u can quote me on that)
Moreover before applying to go to a polytechnic, I think u should have been aware of th degree u would be given at th end of ur program, so please let's stop all these sentimental bullshit n play our roles according to our academic background. Or tomorrow u should not be surprised when a brick layer comes out n start making noise tht he can build houses while a civil engr. cannot do so, so therefore they should be allowed to answer th tile of an engr. (Lol)

kayusbrown:

Ignorance smells all over your post. It is folks like you that continue to perpetuate this evil discrimination because of the fear that HND holders might outshine their degree holder counterparts if placed at same level.

It is only in Nigeria that the engineering degree holder assumes the title 'Engineer' is meant only for engineering University graduates. This explains why COREN is more concerned about titles at the expense of technological advancement of the nation. For your information, even the Engineering Craftmen are ENGINEERS at their own level if you know what engineering really mean.
The HND holders are not interested in titles. All they demand is justice. If what constitutes a bachelor's degree internationally is success in minimum of 120 credit hours of courses in higher institution of learning, why is Nigeria HND not accepted as equivalent to a bachelor's degree when an average HND holder must have completed successfuly courses not less than 140 credit hours(ND courses inclusive cos it's the pre-requisite to HND)?

double3:
Young fellow,u can't expect to be trained as a technician n wanto end up answering an engineer,u should know better. In the field of engineering, we have the engineers, the technicians, the technologist, the craftmen, and the artisans. So u can't be trained to be a crafts man or technologist n come out tomorrow n wanto rub shoulders with an engineering degree holder; I don't think its done anywhere in the world(u can quote me on that)
Moreover before applying to go to a polytechnic, I think u should have been aware of th degree u would be given at th end of ur program, so please let's stop all these sentimental bullshit n play our roles according to our academic background. Or tomorrow u should not be surprised when a brick layer comes out n start making noise tht he can build houses while a civil engr. cannot do so, so therefore they should be allowed to answer th tile of an engr. (Lol)

double3:
Young fellow,u can't expect to be trained as a technician n wanto end up answering an engineer,u should know better. In the field of engineering, we have the engineers, the technicians, the technologist, the craftmen, and the artisans. So u can't be trained to be a crafts man or technologist n come out tomorrow n wanto rub shoulders with an engineering degree holder; I don't think its done anywhere in the world(u can quote me on that)
Moreover before applying to go to a polytechnic, I think u should have been aware of th degree u would be given at th end of ur program, so please let's stop all these sentimental bullshit n play our roles according to our academic background. Or tomorrow u should not be surprised when a brick layer comes out n start making noise tht he can build houses while a civil engr. cannot do so, so therefore they should be allowed to answer th tile of an engr. (Lol)

sisipelebe: y wont poly gradute rub shoulders wit u guys? Can u imagine a Bsc graduate n elect/elect cant even instal dis liltle wiring connectn nd dey claim 2 b eng. Engneer my ass.... I kn d fact stil remains dat polytechnic graduate ar regarded as technologist/technicians.... Wen it comes it comes 2 skills we r beta dan our counterpt!

sisipelebe: y wont poly gradute rub shoulders wit u guys? Can u imagine a Bsc graduate n elect/elect cant even instal dis liltle wiring connectn nd dey claim 2 b eng. Engneer my ass.... I kn d fact stil remains dat polytechnic graduate ar regarded as technologist/technicians.... Wen it comes it comes 2 skills we r beta dan our counterpt!

sisipelebe: y wont poly gradute rub shoulders wit u guys? Can u imagine a Bsc graduate n elect/elect cant even instal dis liltle wiring connectn nd dey claim 2 b eng. Engneer my ass.... I kn d fact stil remains dat polytechnic graduate ar regarded as technologist/technicians.... Wen it comes it comes 2 skills we r beta dan our counterpt!

double3:
Young fellow,u can't expect to be trained as a technician n wanto end up answering an engineer,u should know better. In the field of engineering, we have the engineers, the technicians, the technologist, the craftmen, and the artisans. So u can't be trained to be a crafts man or technologist n come out tomorrow n wanto rub shoulders with an engineering degree holder; I don't think its done anywhere in the world(u can quote me on that)
Moreover before applying to go to a polytechnic, I think u should have been aware of th degree u would be given at th end of ur program, so please let's stop all these sentimental bullshit n play our roles according to our academic background. Or tomorrow u should not be surprised when a brick layer comes out n start making noise tht he can build houses while a civil engr. cannot do so, so therefore they should be allowed to answer th tile of an engr. (Lol)

Zeeworld:
Owkay, sabi man..

double3:
Young fellow,u can't expect to be trained as a technician n wanto end up answering an engineer,u should know better. In the field of engineering, we have the engineers, the technicians, the technologist, the craftmen, and the artisans. So u can't be trained to be a crafts man or technologist n come out tomorrow n wanto rub shoulders with an engineering degree holder; I don't think its done anywhere in the world(u can quote me on that)
Moreover before applying to go to a polytechnic, I think u should have been aware of th degree u would be given at th end of ur program, so please let's stop all these sentimental bullshit n play our roles according to our academic background. Or tomorrow u should not be surprised when a brick layer comes out n start making noise tht he can build houses while a civil engr. cannot do so, so therefore they should be allowed to answer th tile of an engr. (Lol)

josgolf: yes,u av d skills quite alright but u dnt av enough theoritical background to explain why those skills exist....in d field of engineering,all d different tiers all av a role 2 play n as such interdependent...forexample,d engineer cant work without a band of technologists,so also does d latter cant work without a technician.,there's
no need of arguing which is more superior...if u knw what u came 4 wherever u ar studyin,nt even d govt can stop u 4rm being wat God has ordaind u 2 be...if u ar oportund 2 b a BSC holder thank God,HND holder,NCE n what have you,just thank God n b determind,d sky is ur stepn stone.
I really feel sorry for u may God deliver u from spirit of pride without brain,hanging empty shoulder and ignorance u need deliverance indeed infact u ar an illiterate bsc graduate. Those useless cultist wey no dy enta class all of them na bsc graduate abi. My dear get life pls and try defend ur sort out empty bsc

Noblejkz: Funny enough, even the degree holders still believe they are better off. Then let a level playing ground be provided for both lets see who outclasses the other. Lets forget the squables and face facts. A friend in ND1 once wrote exam for a 300level student at IMSU. What a shame!

Tee-gurlee.:
ASUU nko?

chu-baba:
Only ASUP, wot abt ASUU?

double3:
Laughs.... My sister don't take it personal,speaking on your comment; I think its not the function of an engineer to wire a building,an engineers function is to draw the wiring diagram( design the wiring plan) while the technician does the actual wiring; so don't be surprised if the managing director of PHCN cannot wire his house(laughs).

double3:
Young fellow,u can't expect to be trained as a technician n wanto end up answering an engineer,u should know better. In the field of engineering, we have the engineers, the technicians, the technologist, the craftmen, and the artisans. So u can't be trained to be a crafts man or technologist n come out tomorrow n wanto rub shoulders with an engineering degree holder; I don't think its done anywhere in the world(u can quote me on that)
Moreover before applying to go to a polytechnic, I think u should have been aware of th degree u would be given at th end of ur program, so please let's stop all these sentimental bullshit n play our roles according to our academic background. Or tomorrow u should not be surprised when a brick layer comes out n start making noise tht he can build houses while a civil engr. cannot do so, so therefore they should be allowed to answer th tile of an engr. (Lol)

kayusbrown:

Ignorance smells all over your post. It is folks like you that continue to perpetuate this evil discrimination because of the fear that HND holders might outshine their degree holder counterparts if placed at same level.

It is only in Nigeria that the engineering degree holder assumes the title 'Engineer' is meant only for engineering University graduates. This explains why COREN is more concerned about titles at the expense of technological advancement of the nation. For your information, even the Engineering Craftmen are ENGINEERS at their own level if you know what engineering really mean.
The HND holders are not interested in titles. All they demand is justice. If what constitutes a bachelor's degree internationally is success in minimum of 120 credit hours of courses in higher institution of learning, why is Nigeria HND not accepted as equivalent to a bachelor's degree when an average HND holder must have completed successfuly courses not less than 140 credit hours(ND courses inclusive cos it's the pre-requisite to HND)?