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Re: Basic Medical Science In Nigeria - The Way Forward? by Nobody: 8:05pm On Sep 19, 2013 |
marvelling: ok here I go! The reason why MLSCN stop licensing Bsc microbiology and biochemistry holders from practicing in the laboratory is because laboratory practices have been modified TO be more professional oriented. 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Basic Medical Science In Nigeria - The Way Forward? by Nobody: 8:19pm On Sep 19, 2013 |
Emmafrancis: I studied human anatomy from unical. I wasted four good years of my life studying a course that has no practical application except academical. No place for us in the hospital (except mortuary section. Which I can't or the forensic museum.)anoda BSC?? Why not get MBBS or BDS? |
Re: Basic Medical Science In Nigeria - The Way Forward? by Nobody: 8:19pm On Sep 19, 2013 |
Emzybrown:nobody should read these BMS courses again to forestall future frustrations. this is a major reason why I say Nigeria is useless!! nobody is using their brain again. everyone is thinking of chopping oyel money. |
Re: Basic Medical Science In Nigeria - The Way Forward? by ziga: 8:24pm On Sep 19, 2013 |
Emzybrown: I'm sorry, but can you please explain what the bolded statement means?? |
Re: Basic Medical Science In Nigeria - The Way Forward? by MeAboki(m): 8:26pm On Sep 19, 2013 |
marvelling: ok here I go! It was scrapped and superseded by the BMLS program offered now at Universities as the profession progressed from a technological grade to a scientific one. The internship programs were diploma courses offered by Schools of Medical Laboratory sciences (usually attached to teaching hospitals). The change was enacted by law (Act 11 of 2003) involving change of the names of the regulatory body then from the Institute of Medical Laboratory Technology of Nigeria; whose graduates were called Medical Laboratory Technologists (diploma holders) as against the current nomenclature: Medical Laboratory Science Council of Nigeria who among others, give licence to graduates of Bachelors of Medical Laboratory Sciences, referred to as Medical Laboratory Scientist. Sorry about your predicament which unfortunately seems like a lack of proper and effect career guidance before and at tertiary institutions, resulting many intelligent young men like you losing their way and ending up in an occupational cul-de sac. For many, there seems to be no easy way out except taking the longer tortuous route of going back to university and taking the requisite qualifying courses. 1 Like |
Re: Basic Medical Science In Nigeria - The Way Forward? by AreaFada2: 8:38pm On Sep 19, 2013 |
I think I am not getting the gist or BMS graduates in Nigeria have a very different orientation/reality on ground. Even if Naija was a developed country with excellent hospitals and research facilities, it will still be impossible to mop up all the BMS graduates. I think the real issue is that there are not enough jobs. Here in the West focus is on transferrable skills: communication, numeracy, good time management, team work, ability to see a project through etc. These are things you gain from a course irrespective of the actual title. BMS students work in admin, civil service, labs, further studies, teaching, financial services, drug company reps/sales etc. I have a number of BMS graduate friends working in various ministries and banks. If there were jobs out there and fresh BMS grads were offered 160k monthly to begin, this thread would not exist. 1 Like |
Re: Basic Medical Science In Nigeria - The Way Forward? by henrro(m): 8:38pm On Sep 19, 2013 |
Acidosis: Most people today find themselves in Physiology/Pharmacology/Anatomy/Medical Biochemistry department after the college of Medicine failed to admit them for MBBS...!! if u are saying anything concerning biochemistry, have it in mind that biichemistry is every wild course, there is environmental biochemist, medical biochemist, industrial biochemist, pharmaceutical biochemist .. so stop comprising biochemistry with anatomy and physiology. biochemistry is every okay comprise to other ones |
Re: Basic Medical Science In Nigeria - The Way Forward? by ziga: 8:43pm On Sep 19, 2013 |
Me_Aboki: But that shouldn't be a reason for eliminating Diploma courses. All that should happen is that the course be changed to a Diploma in medical laboratory sciences, and the MLSCN would supervise these Diploma courses and ensure that they meet the necessary standards. An example would be scrapping polytechnic engineering courses because you can get engineering degrees from a university. If there is a need for more Lab med scientists and Universities are not producing enough, then that would be a rational thing to do. Unfortunately, I think because of the stagnation and lack of funding that we have to health in Nigeria, even though millions of people need healthcare, facilities are limited!!! And no matter how much manpower you have, a kitchen can only fit so many cooks. |
Re: Basic Medical Science In Nigeria - The Way Forward? by AreaFada2: 8:45pm On Sep 19, 2013 |
henrro: !! if u are saying anything concerning biochemistry, have it in mind that biichemistry is every wild course, there is environmental biochemist, medical biochemist, industrial biochemist, pharmaceutical biochemist .. so stop comprising biochemistry with anatomy and physiology. biochemistry is every okay comprise to other ones. Biochemists have lots of roles. Also biochemists tend to have higher entry requirements and many progress to MSc/MPhil/PhD/MBBS. 1 Like |
Re: Basic Medical Science In Nigeria - The Way Forward? by drdams: 8:54pm On Sep 19, 2013 |
Please we want Creativity not WIKIPEADITY or GOOGlity.. [quote author=Laalamed]A biomedical scientist (biomedician, biomedical doctor, medical scientist , clinical scientist) is a scientist trained in biology , particularly in the context of medicine . These scientists work to gain knowledge on the main principles of how the human body works and to find new ways to cure or treat disease by developing advanced diagnostic tools or new therapeutic strategies . The research of biomedical scientists is referred to as biomedical research . Biomedical scientists can have a particular focus on basic , pre-clinical , or translational research . While biomedical scientists specifically focus on understanding the human body and disease, scientists educated in other fields also contribute greatly to advancements in medical knowledge, including biologists, biomedical engineers, chemists , and physicists. In the United Kingdom , the term "biomedical scientist" as related to the health service has a different meaning than in other parts of the world, specifically referring to a class of healthcare professional that performs clinical pathology services. Description The specific activities of the biomedical scientist can differ in various parts of the world and vary with the level of education. Generally speaking, biomedical scientists conduct research in a laboratory setting, using living organisms as models to conduct experiments . These can include cultured human or animal cells grown outside of the whole organism, small animals such as flies , worms , fish , mice , and rats, or, rarely, larger animals and primates. Biomedical scientists may also work directly with human tissue specimens to perform experiments as well as participate in clinical research . Biomedical scientists employ a variety of techniques in order to carry out laboratory experiments. These include: Molecular and biochemical techniques Electrophoresis and blotting Immunostaining Chromatography Mass spectrometry PCR and sequencing Microarrays Imaging technologies Light , fluorescence , and electron microscopy MRI PET X-ray Genetic engineering/modification Transfection Viral transduction Transgenic model organisms Electrophysiology techniques Patch clamp EEG, EKG, ERG In silico techniques Bioinformatics Computational biology Level of education Biomedical scientists typically obtain a terminal academic degree , usually a doctorate. (PhD, DSc, DPhil, etc.) This degree is necessary for faculty positions at academic institutions, as well as senior scientist positions at most companies. Some biomedical scientists also possess a medical degree (MD , DO , MBBS, etc.) in addition to an academic degree. Work environment Academics This category includes tenured faculty positions at universities, colleges, non- profit research institutes , and sometimes hospitals . These positions usually afford more intellectual freedom and give the researcher more latitude in the direction and content of the research. Scientists in academic settings, in addition to conducting experiments, will also attend scientific conferences, compete for research grant funding, publish scientific papers , and teach classes. Industry Industry jobs refer to private sector jobs at for-profit corporations. In the case of biomedical scientists, employment is usually at large pharmaceutical companies or biotechnology companies. Positions in industry tend to pay higher salaries than those at academic institutions, but job security compared to tenured academic faculty is significantly less. Researchers in industry tend to have less intellectual freedom in their research than those in the academic sector, owing to the ultimate goal of producing marketable products that benefit the company. Non-Traditional Career Paths In recent years, more biomedical scientists have pursued careers where advanced education and experience in biomedical research is needed outside of traditional laboratory research. These areas include patent law , consulting , public policy, and science journalism . The primary reason for growth in these areas is that in recent years fewer positions are available in traditional academic research relative to the number of seekers; approximately 15-20% of PhD life scientists will obtain a tenure-track position or lab-head position in industry. [1] United Kingdom "Biomedical scientist" is the protected title::..........bla bla |
Re: Basic Medical Science In Nigeria - The Way Forward? by mfrekeituen: 9:08pm On Sep 19, 2013 |
Am a 3rd year physiology student,wat u say is vry right I see no reason y basic medical science students attend d same lecture wit allied medical n clinical student 4rm yr1 to yr 3 but at d end of d year 3 allied n clinical all varnish 2 d hospital den d basic end in d classroom.Y do dey call us medical student wen u dnt av a space in d hospital,d issue of ground is vry important the health sector shuld luk into dis matter...... 1 Like |
Re: Basic Medical Science In Nigeria - The Way Forward? by Nobody: 9:09pm On Sep 19, 2013 |
Uyi Iredia: BMS courses are foundational to medicine and thet fact that it isn't professionally recognized in the health sector is lamentable. BTW my sister, who studies Physiology (a BMS) course HEAVILY LAMENTS the fact that medical doctors lack a solid foundation in physiology (or human anatomy) and their knowledge in this aspect is mostly theoretical. who told u doctors dont know their onions in physiology. U dont cross to 4th yr without passing the professional exam in basic medical sciences including physiology. Tell me how u pass dat exam without knowing whats up? 1 Like |
Re: Basic Medical Science In Nigeria - The Way Forward? by Nobody: 9:11pm On Sep 19, 2013 |
Dr.'Hesjay: just know that, that aspect of ur write up shdnt have featured. |
Re: Basic Medical Science In Nigeria - The Way Forward? by Nobody: 9:17pm On Sep 19, 2013 |
adeaugustus: BMS students/graduates, Let this sink into your head; you have no role in the hospital! Considering that most University Teaching Hospitals in Nigeria don't have a research facility. I don't know why you want to work in the hospital actually, why do you really want to do there? exactly, Nigeria cannot diversify if everybody is eyeing one specialty. We can be useful in all our respective areas. Every biochemist here is thinking of health when biochemistry is very diversified. What happened to brewing, food processing, etc. Some of my BCH friends those days produced malt, thats how it starts. I think everybody shd go and develop their tents. |
Re: Basic Medical Science In Nigeria - The Way Forward? by Hearme(m): 9:23pm On Sep 19, 2013 |
Airhix: Thanks Guys ! You have said it all ! I have a bsc in human physiology ! After the program and nysc ! The struggle wasn't easy ! Had to take a dive into Chemistry ! Am happy now ! I have some books and publications to my credit ! Any course outside Medicine,pharmacy,nursing and medical lab sci , I for one wudnt advise any person 2 accept the admission , you can on your own peril ! The physiological and anatomy national associations, who are heading them ; they all have got MBBS , so little ones and those undergraduates studying anatomy, physiology ,medical biochemistry , be very ready ! The journey is very long ! Start a patent medicine store or teaching jobs (biology ) awaits you in private secondary schs ! NUC have a role 2 play ! Re-structure these courses ! Let it be a 5 or 6 yrs course with a straight Msc or scrap it completely ! No medical research institute in Nigeria as of this age ! The ones will see are those with Fed teaching hospitals ! How many researchers are there ! I know of one ! The lassa fever institute with ISTH irrua edo-state ! Basic medicine in nigeria is messed up ! No future , most of our graduates are used as medical sales rep is only a brand name 4 drivers ! They drive all the length and breadth of nigeria delivery drugs 2 pharmaceutical store ! Nigerian Institute of Medical Research is in Lagos. Nigerian Trado medical research center in Lagos. I know there will be others but it still buoys down to what ASUU is talking about. No funding, which makes everything redundant. The largest grant awarding bodies in the world; NIH and welcome Trust sponsor researches in basic medical science mainly. The grants are available for all to apply, but what happens when you are out of the world of what they are saying. When you can't even store samples appropriately due to power supply or have the digital equipment to carry out the current trend of research. The polygraph used in 1973 to teach our present professors is what is still available and even unserviceable, the grants from NIH are used to pay Post doc and doctoral students, so you can imagine how massive that fund will be to pay one or two postdoc students about 30,000 us dollars p.a each. That Is Just the maximum amout You can get in Nigeria from TETFUND for research after several fasting and prayers. A very long way to go. Osahon7: anoda BSC?? Why not get MBBS or BDS? it seems you don't know that Medicine is now war, except you get a govt job or a very good private company. Even the govt jobs are noting to talk of welfare wise leading to a massive migration and the so called brain drain in the country. In the UK, next to the Indians are Nigerians in the hospitals as doctors. Same in US and Canada. Even though we still don't have the facilities to grant them a good training here at home. you and I can imagine if we invest in health and education. We will begin to have foreigners seeking healthcare as is the case of Nigerians running to India now. Foreigners in our schools etc. 1 Like |
Re: Basic Medical Science In Nigeria - The Way Forward? by adiscodigoxin: 9:45pm On Sep 19, 2013 |
I initially do not want to comment on this thread but later realised we may be missing something , Firstly ,no one discriminates against physiologists,anatomists,physiotherapists or lab scientists ,and doctors don't do their works . Physiologists though should have a place in the heal sector as paramedics after undergoing some training in resuscitating patients ,also they can assist in places like ECG,EEG etc You can't do forensic without studying medicine,coz yes you may know what you see but you can never interpret a result from your findings except if you have a basis in pathology and medicine,and all dis no be moi moi, For anatomists,I still can't see a future for that course ,it's an unnecessary distraction for prospective undergraduates,most universities in developed country don't offer it except at post-graduate level and tis all about research studies (Naija no de inTerested in research) |
Re: Basic Medical Science In Nigeria - The Way Forward? by DrABCD: 9:55pm On Sep 19, 2013 |
the planmaker: . the doctors claim to knw it all .so they dnt need otherssm people use a every little opprtunity to go "gaga" against drs......................y ol d hate? direct d blame to the rite place bros, no be evry tin be dr fault..............................!!!!! and dnt spoil dis imprtnt thread pls!! 1 Like |
Re: Basic Medical Science In Nigeria - The Way Forward? by Jman06(m): 10:05pm On Sep 19, 2013 |
And what do you mean by ''professionally'' oriented?It pisses me up when people don't say things the way they are,simply put;the so called professionals are GREEDY and want to monopolize laboratory practice and Nigeria being a corrupt country it is provided a fertile ground for them to perfect their selfish agenda.I am a Biochemist and i make bold to say that no BMLS graduate of my level can beat me in clinical chemistry.What do they know?Nothing!I dont even envy them because i know that non of them 'll equal my achievements in the nearest future. Emzybrown: 1 Like |
Re: Basic Medical Science In Nigeria - The Way Forward? by SalC: 10:09pm On Sep 19, 2013 |
marvelling:Physiologists function as histopathologists you say? Believe me the histopathologists under MLS are still puppets in the hands of pathologists. They are yet to gain their own ground let alone accommodate others. I truly wish these issues be properly addressed in Nigeria 1 Like |
Re: Basic Medical Science In Nigeria - The Way Forward? by Peruseman(m): 10:13pm On Sep 19, 2013 |
after due analysis, i realized that 60% of laboratory scientists in Nigeria are not holders of BMLS but from other allied courses and yet they have done fine. I can tell you authoritatively that Nigeria society of Microbiology have approached the National Assembly in this regard and NSBMB are equally drafting a similar memo to the National Assembly as we debate this. Our problem in Nigeria is rather than fighting on how to improve a sector, we are busy discussing who is a scientists or not. As a scientist that specialized in chemical Pathology, my quest should be how to improve the field and help my patients and not discussing who is this and that. I wrote a memo recently in this regard to the council as i see no rationale in preventing a medical microbiologist or biochemist from practicing if the council should revisit the associate programme. it will go a long way to eradicate quarks from the system. what the other departments should do is to align with the two bodies i mentioned to push for accreditation or better put push for the Establishment of a similar body if they work together. i don't see any way i or the council will be affected if they are allowed to join. it will even help strengthen the profession as MDCN are beginning to show some compassion on them by employing them into their clinics without being inspected by the council. 3 Likes |
Re: Basic Medical Science In Nigeria - The Way Forward? by Nobody: 10:15pm On Sep 19, 2013 |
Yet another challenge............... |
Re: Basic Medical Science In Nigeria - The Way Forward? by Nobody: 10:16pm On Sep 19, 2013 |
BMS is tailored towards research and teaching however one would need to proceed for Msc at least before one could be considered eligible to conduct a research. I am a physiologist about completing my Msc programme in one of the Nigerian universities also I ve being a member of the American physiological society and as a member I get advertisement for vacancies all over the world but the problem is that the research we do here in Nigeria is about 100years behind what is happening presently in the field so a Nigerian trained physiologist would find it difficult to compete. Last month, the physiological society held their annual conference in Birmingham, how many Nigerian scientists were able to present a paper there? They were spectators there even before going, a foremost professor of physiology in west africa told me in the company of another student that was in the lab when he visited my school that they are simply going there to watch. In Nigeria, physiology was started as a course for the purpose of training lecturers that would take over from the foreigners that were handling the course in the university of Ibadan but today it has been turned to a dumping ground for every dick and harry that couldn't secure a place in Medicine. The numbers of those studying physiology in all nigeria universities far outnumbered the vacancies in universities for lecturing positions. I think NUC should stricly limit universities that offer physiology as a degree awarding course in Nigeria and the number of students they should admit and BMS courses should be offered as double honour so that those that cannot afford to further for Msc can settle down for something. Unemployment in Nigeria is also a threat to the development of the BMS. In the last physiological society of Nigeria held last year in Unical, the executives being mostly Medical doctors tried to come up with a resolution that only MBBS graduates should further for Msc in physiology so if they succeed it will no longer be possible for those that have first degree in physiology to proceed to Msc. To be successful in this field, you will have to give yourself to rigorous self development and be patient because the truth is that the financial reward may come late or may never come but the joy there is that you are doing what you enjoy doing and you are contributing to the furtherance of knowledge. Pardon my errors. 1 Like |
Re: Basic Medical Science In Nigeria - The Way Forward? by marvelling(m): 10:18pm On Sep 19, 2013 |
ngozievergreen: You haven't made any meaningful contribution to this thread. Blabbing is all you've done so far. |
Re: Basic Medical Science In Nigeria - The Way Forward? by Nobody: 10:19pm On Sep 19, 2013 |
BMS is tailored towards research and teaching however one would need to proceed for Msc at least before one could be considered eligible to conduct a research. I am a physiologist about completing my Msc programme in one of the Nigerian universities also I ve being a member of the American physiological society and as a member I get advertisement for vacancies all over the world but the problem is that the research we do here in Nigeria is about 100years behind what is happening presently in the field so a Nigerian trained physiologist would find it difficult to compete. Last month, the physiological society held their annual conference in Birmingham, how many Nigerian scientists were able to present a paper there? They were spectators there even before going, a foremost professor of physiology in west africa told me in the company of another student that was in the lab when he visited my school that they are simply going there to watch. In Nigeria, physiology was started as a course for the purpose of training lecturers that would take over from the foreigners that were handling the course in the university of Ibadan but today it has been turned to a dumping ground for every dick and harry that couldn't secure a place in Medicine. The numbers of those studying physiology in all nigeria universities far outnumbered the vacancies in universities for lecturing positions. I think NUC should stricly limit universities that offer physiology as a degree awarding course in Nigeria and the number of students they should admit and BMS courses should be offered as double honour so that those that cannot afford to further for Msc can settle down for something. Unemployment in Nigeria is also a threat to the development of the BMS. In the last physiological society of Nigeria held last year in Unical, the executives being mostly Medical doctors tried to come up with a resolution that only MBBS graduates should further for Msc in physiology so if they succeed it will no longer be possible for those that have first degree in physiology to proceed to Msc. To be successful in this field, you will have to give yourself to rigorous self development and be patient because the truth is that the financial reward may come late or may never come but the joy there is that you are doing what you enjoy doing and you are contributing to the furtherance of knowledge. Pardon my errors. |
Re: Basic Medical Science In Nigeria - The Way Forward? by Nobody: 10:19pm On Sep 19, 2013 |
BMS is tailored towards research and teaching however one would need to proceed for Msc at least before one could be considered eligible to conduct a research. I am a physiologist about completing my Msc programme in one of the Nigerian universities also I ve being a member of the American physiological society and as a member I get advertisement for vacancies all over the world but the problem is that the research we do here in Nigeria is about 100years behind what is happening presently in the field so a Nigerian trained physiologist would find it difficult to compete. Last month, the physiological society held their annual conference in Birmingham, how many Nigerian scientists were able to present a paper there? They were spectators there even before going, a foremost professor of physiology in west africa told me in the company of another student that was in the lab when he visited my school that they are simply going there to watch. In Nigeria, physiology was started as a course for the purpose of training lecturers that would take over from the foreigners that were handling the course in the university of Ibadan but today it has been turned to a dumping ground for every dick and harry that couldn't secure a place in Medicine. The numbers of those studying physiology in all nigeria universities far outnumbered the vacancies in universities for lecturing positions. I think NUC should stricly limit universities that offer physiology as a degree awarding course in Nigeria and the number of students they should admit and BMS courses should be offered as double honour so that those that cannot afford to further for Msc can settle down for something. Unemployment in Nigeria is also a threat to the development of the BMS. In the last physiological society of Nigeria held last year in Unical, the executives being mostly Medical doctors tried to come up with a resolution that only MBBS graduates should further for Msc in physiology so if they succeed it will no longer be possible for those that have first degree in physiology to proceed to Msc. To be successful in this field, you will have to give yourself to rigorous self development and be patient because the truth is that the financial reward may come late or may never come but the joy there is that you are doing what you enjoy doing and you are contributing to the furtherance of knowledge. Pardon my errors. |
Re: Basic Medical Science In Nigeria - The Way Forward? by MeAboki(m): 10:46pm On Sep 19, 2013 |
ziga:, The issue is about progress/advancement involving the re-setting of the minimum standard for practice; in this case from technological to scientific grade, from diploma certificates to degrees while working within the framework of the laws in Nigeria. For example, the law says only universities under the supervision of the NUC can offer degree certificates; since the minimum requirement is BMLS, therefore the IMLTN (now MLSCN) has no option other than to cancel the diploma courses and allow the universities to take over. The real problem, however, as I have already mentioned is that of career guidance or lack of it. Although Nigeria is still progressing, unfortunately its nowhere near the stage when due to ample opportunities ppl can just read anything and comfortably assume that there are bound be jobs out there tailor measured for them (like you'd find in advanced countries). Ppl should think and plan ahead, after all by the time anyone reaches university he/she is already an adult and ought to know where he/she should be heading for. Another problem is that of our leadership, where inept corrupt ppl end up at the helm of affairs mismanaging our progression as a nation. Normally, a government sets out a plan/vision of what it wants achieve in terms of its human resource development; and then put in place the necessary structures, processes and procedures. If for example, the goal is excellence in computer technology the govt would develop and put in place the requisite policies to attract entrepreneurs to invest in that industry so as to create demand for the relevant skills; similarly it would also shape admission policies and courses being offered so that at the end of the day it would have created and managed supply and demand; while moving the whole country in the right direction. Unfortunately, we all know whats been happening, somebody would derail everything because he/she preferred his/her selfish interest or that his/her ethnic group, religion, state or even village before everybody else's. SMH. |
Re: Basic Medical Science In Nigeria - The Way Forward? by ayobj: 10:55pm On Sep 19, 2013 |
Guys there is no need to brandish insults. The plain thruth is that the BMS graduates have no role in clinical and hospital practice. I say this with all sense of responsibility. The formation of these courses were meant to produce lecturers in the basic medical sciences. But the enrolment has increased so much that that has failed.the thinking then was that medical doctors may not be fascinated by being such lecturers whsich has also become a fallacy. Retaining it as a course is of no relevance. I am medical doctor post 13 years qualification. I have specialist qualification in radiology. I write reports on various anatomical parts everyday-arteries,nerves,corona radiata,muscles,viscera etc. I don't need an anatomoist in my clinic. Radiological anatomy is different from gross anatomy. My catheterising the urethra does not need a BmS input. What will a BMS do in the theatre.The surgeon himself is a surgical anatomist.He has not business in theatre if he can't identify and navigate the planes. Let's count it out,you don't need to be a graduate to be a phlebothomist,ecg or eeg operator.these are short courses in many developed countries-like 3 to 6 month.ran into a nigerian teenager in chicago who is a ECG tech.I was trying to encourage her to go to medical school. Its so disheatning we don't plan in this country hence this huge mistake. Just my opinion.Comments welcome 2 Likes |
Re: Basic Medical Science In Nigeria - The Way Forward? by Nobody: 11:03pm On Sep 19, 2013 |
ziga:A graduate of medical laboratory science cannot be equated with a graduate of either microbiology, biochemistry or anatomy. Lab scientists are trained in a very complex multidisciplinary courses, from hematology, microbiology, histopathology, immunology, clinical chemistry to ancillary courses like pharmacology and toxicology, biomedical engineering and instrumentation, public health epidemiology, hospital management. Can you see why medical laboratory science is now a professional course. In as much am not making jest of other disciplines of study, What i think is that there are many courses in Nigeria with conflicting roles. |
Re: Basic Medical Science In Nigeria - The Way Forward? by Eratosthenes(m): 11:18pm On Sep 19, 2013 |
The problem with Nigeria as a country is that we have little or no regard for pure/basic sciences generally. This is the fundamental stumbling block to our scientific and technological progress. Medicine has its foundation in basic medical sciences and almost every paradigm shift in clinical practice has its roots in the sciences. Nigerians should not expect any medical breakthrough until we take basic medical sciences seriously by encouraging our best brains to study those courses, establish laboratories for them to carry out researches and pay them handsomely. |
Re: Basic Medical Science In Nigeria - The Way Forward? by MeAboki(m): 11:24pm On Sep 19, 2013 |
Sal C: Physiologists function as histopathologists you say? Believe me the histopathologists under MLS are still puppets in the hands of pathologists. They are yet to gain there own ground let alone accommodate others. Why is that so? Any rules/legislation setting them aside from their colleagues in other specialty preventing them from being their own men? |
Re: Basic Medical Science In Nigeria - The Way Forward? by Ubty: 11:27pm On Sep 19, 2013 |
chreld_b: This is an interesting thread, I wonder why it took so long to get to front page. That aside let me give my own two kobo. First and foremost my initial analysis is that most graduates of BMS have little understanding of what role they are meant to play in the medical field (i'll get back to that). Secondly the brutal truth is that a BMS graduate (BSC) has little or no role to play in a hospital. Now let me expantiate. As a graduate of BMS you are trained to focus the career path of a scientist (research) but you want to do the job of a doctor. What most people don't understand is that doctors are not scientist. Scientists advance knowledge, whereas doctors merely apply existing knowledge. Unlike the MD who does not need to produce any original research, scientist must produce original research and earn some professional credibility. It typically takes a couple of years longer to become a scientist most times you have to earn a PhD. Part of the reason it takes so long is that the scientist is being trained on how to think critically about existing knowledge, and it can take a while to find one's niche and fill a gap in the knowledge base. This means that if you yourself want to make important scientific discoveries and then tell the world about them, you will be much better prepared by getting a PhD than an MD. You also will be much better prepared to criticize studies you read about in virtually any field because you will be trained in critical thinking and writing. MDs typically aren't as qualified as scientists to evaluate research studies and their significance.. One of the best contribution so far... |
Re: Basic Medical Science In Nigeria - The Way Forward? by Dranatomy: 1:14am On Sep 20, 2013 |
I graduated with Anatomy degree in 2010..served. 2011...Worked 2012 till date in a Government owned mortuary... Presently, I pack close to 200k home every month but am still planning for masters cuz humiliation is too much in hospital settings with Doctors "pathologists "clashing wit my office daily! 1 Like |
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