Tolexander: why have you decided to create time for those subzero intelligent fellows when you have many things to do.

Oh, i thought i was the only one who noticed too? smh

Katsumoto:

oh i see.

its not any different from previous debates. They lie without understanding their lies and I challenge their lies.

What 'lies' are you challenging liars are all around you in your new found party (APC) you can't challenge them, Jonathan is delivering the goods right before your face, yet you keep asking for proofs haba Katz are you sure you are not rocking the wrong joints? Sincerely speaking, this is not the Katz I used to know

4chi:

Soyinka wasted his time and energy. Ibo cretins are not worthy of such sacrifice.they are an absolutely irredeemable and ungrateful lot.

While he was in solitary confinement , the beast from the east

(ashebe) was globetrotting for biafras recognition. Yet you can see from his last trash book that he,like the majority of ibos are forever besotted with "Awo and his Yoruba people"......

Don't mind the Biafran Eediots. Soyinka went to prison for supporting the Biafran cause. Today the ungrateful leeches insult him.

Desola:

People like you who do not bother to click on links to read the full story would always be lead by fools.

If you had bothered to click on the link you will see that the article was written in 2007.

Even if it was written before the birth of Christ, does it change the obvious? That piece is an eye opener for those who never knew Soyinka too well. Just found out that he once held a political office holder . What an hypocrite, from now on he has no right to point fingers at political office holders, he was once part of them.

tomakint:
What 'lies' are you challenging liars are all around you in your new found party (APC) you can't challenge them, Jonathan is delivering the goods right before your face, yet you keep asking for proofs haba Katz are you sure you are not rocking the wrong joints? Sincerely speaking, this is not the Katz I used to know

Do you have reading or comprehension problems? Can you relate the points I raised to GEJ or APC? What has GEJ's incompetence and daftness got to do with this thread or me? What is wrong with you?

berem: Oh, i thought i was the only one who noticed too? smh

Seriously, why do you go looking for trouble at times?

Katsumoto:

Do you have reading or comprehension problems? Can you relate the points I raised to GEJ or APC? What has GEJ's incompetence and daftness got to do with this thread or me? What is wrong with you?

Now I must have get him on his nerves with just a honest observation typical of new initiate into the APC club! So Katz, whatz up?

PHIPEX: Don't make a mess of this thread, this is not an ethnic challenge.

This is certainly not the best of times for Wole Soyinka but I still respect what he stands for, he has his weak points as a human but it doesn't take away the fact that he is a national icon I still admire.

It is certain that some of you have turned reasoning the other way round. That Soyinka caled PEJ to caution and reminding her that sje has no constitutional role to meddle in Rivers affairs....warrant such nonsensical statment in bold?

This is obviously not the best time for this generation, reasonin and integrity-wise

Katsumoto:

Seriously, why do you go looking for trouble at times?

Did i look for your trouble? But you know what he said is the truth? Haven't i told you the same thing before? Your reply was exactly the same thing you just wrote up there!

mapet:

It is certain that some of you have turned reasoning the other way round. That Soyinka caled PEJ to caution and reminding her that sje has no constitutional role to meddle in Rivers affairs....warrant such nonsensical statment in bold?

This is obviously not the best time for this generation, reasonin and integrity-wise

Katsumoto:

He had best of times when standing up to Northern dictators and siding with Biafra but now that he is speaking against GEJ and his dumb wife, he isn't having the best of times. SMDH

You both probably got me wrong, I thought this was a recent news when I posted my comment. If we assume it to be a recent news (as I wrongly thought earlier) then you'll agree with me that getting attacked from PEJ and IBB in a matter of days wouldn't be what anyone will wish for in this country except we want to pretend. I never said he was wrong because I respect what he stands for and like he said "the man dies in all who keep silent in the face of tyrany".

Ibb has dossier on people.
I remember him threatening to expose buhari too.

PHIPEX:



You both probably got me wrong, I thought this was a recent news when I posted my comment. If we assume it to be a recent news (as I wrongly thought earlier) then you'll agree with me that getting attacked from PEJ and IBB in a matter of days wouldn't be what anyone will wish for in this country except we want to pretend. I never said he was wrong because I respect what he stands for and like he said "the man dies in all who keeps silent in the face of tyrany".

Ok I get your point but a long time activist being attacked by two power drunk thieves is not exactly what should disturb Soyinka or anyone of good conscience. If being afraid of condemnation from people of that ilk is what would make a conscientious person silent in the face of tyranny, then people of good virtues would never raise a voice. Its like saying Martin Luther King should be worried about being attacked by the presidents of the KKK and the neo-nazi movement.

gbadexy: Ibb has dossier on people.
I remember him threatening to expose buhari too.

He's not called Maradona for nothing! He is smarter and more intelligent than CIA.

berem: He's not called Maradona for nothing! He is smarter and more intelligent than CIA.

gbadexy: Ibb has dossier on people.
I remember him threatening to expose buhari too.

If IBB was that smart, he would have used his dossier instead of crying as he left Aso Rock.

IBB has never engaged anyone directly in his life; he is a big coward. He is the only coup leader who wasn't around for the execution of his own coup even though the people being ousted weren't around (Idiagbon was out of the country and Buhari was in Katsina).

wisdom-w:
Soyinka...(Mtcheeew) am nt surprised cos yoruba peeps talk b4 dey reason. Animals in de making. Dat man shud visit FMC owerri imo state 4 proper checkup

well am not suprise, the prof may not be clean after all. when old man start taking side like the one in rivers state. he puplicly came to say rivers prob. coused by mr president and his wife. he is an example of one who cannot be trusted

why is soyinka inviting insults n spits in his life, if you go school or sabi book don become madness ni?

Katsumoto:



If IBB was that smart, he would have used his dossier instead of crying as he left Aso Rock.

IBB has never engaged anyone directly in his life; he is a big coward. He is the only coup leader who wasn't around for the execution of his own coup even though the people being ousted weren't around (Idiagbon was out of the country and Buhari was in Katsina).

Katz, you definitely don't know the man, IBB!

tomakint:
Katz, you definitely don't know the man, IBB!

Don't you think it would have been more logical if you offered your own analysis?

No be Ideye Brown go teach falcao how to score.

So he held one of the higest honors under IBB

[b]WHEN A RENOWNED
PROFESSOR TELLS LIES
(Professor Akinwande
Oluwole Soyinka Lied) – By
Segun Melchizedek Edward
II
If there was one disease the
human race ought to dread
most, it is the twin-disease of
arrogance and ignorance spurn
from knowing one is famous
and wrapping outright
falsehood in finely crafted
language. Unfortunately, people
infected with the disease are so
sure many would not take the
pains to research their
assertions and authenticate
what they put forth what with
the excruciating economic
conditions many a Nigerian
contends with on a daily basis –
too busy seeking a means of
self-sustenance to have time for
academic research and critical
thinking.
Professor Akinwande Oluwole
Soyinka, grandson of the Rev.
Canon J. J. Ransome-Kuti, his
maternal grandfather, was dead
wrong on so many counts in his
essay on Gen. Muhammadu
Buhari.
Please, do not get it wrong. I
have utmost respect for the
Nobel Laureate, a playwright
and prolific author of “The
Interpreters”, “You Must Set
Forth at Dawn”, “The Swamp
Dwellers”, “The Lion and the
Jewel” and so many more
classical works and one of the
leading lights of Nigerian
authors of the second
generation of the nation’s
literary giants.
I feel so pained one with such
outstanding achievements on
many fronts would fail to
research what he puts forth in
the public domain, knowing
many would run with it without
verifying the issues raised
therein. I admit though that
man, in his present fallen state,
is subject to making mistakes –
sometimes very costly ones too
and our illustrious professor is
not immune.
Soyinka is not in a position to
castigate Gen. Muhammadu
Buhari. While he talks about
alleged human rights abuses, he
plays the blind man to the
excesses of the present civilian
administration. Soyinka made
no comment when a governor
whipped a PHCN official in this
dispensation. He made no
comment when a critic of the
Bauchi State Governor was
hounded into detention for
speaking the truth. Soyinka was
so audibly silent when a
governor summoned a
Reverend Father to Government
House and flogged him
mercilessly. I can go on and on.
All over the world leaders, in
their zeal to deliver on their
mandates, might commit one
infraction or the other and they
do step on toes. It does not
make sense to play down on the
weight of circumstantial
evidence at the time and to seek
to malign Gen. Buhari, even
when the same respected
professor demonstrated in his
treatise that he does not know
the reasons for the decisions or
he chose to feign ignorance.
Let us examine for ourselves the
veracity of the professor’s
claims. You have a right to
know the truth and many alive
today will testify to the facts
that I present herein. I focus on
three major outright false
allegations leveled by Professor
Wole Soyinka against Gen.
Buhari.
A Mere Hoax: The 53 Suitcases
It is obvious that Prof. Wole
Soyinka chose to pander to
baseless sentiments founded on
outright lies. First, Atiku
Abubakar whom he had
referred to as the Customs
Officer in question is still alive
and Gen. Muhammadu Buhari
had since asked Atiku to speak
up. For the records, Buhari was
not at the airport. What was
reported to the then Head of
State was that an Emir had
returned to the country with his
retinue of 15 wives and so many
children and someone had
mischievously counted all the
luggage they had returned with,
claiming they had contained
foreign currencies. One of the
Emirs that returned was the
father of then Major Jokolo.
Courtesy demands that he goes
to welcome his father and he
had gone there to do so. Even
Atiku Abubakar never reported
seeing foreign currencies in any
of the luggage. He is still alive
and I believe Professor Wole
Soyinka could so easily have
reached him. I still want to
throw the challenge to any
journalist who had seen foreign
currencies in any of the luggage
should step forward and say so.
It is interesting that none of the
media outfits that spread the
rumors reported sighting even a
cent. If, as Atiku Abubakar
claims, the military boys rudely
whisked the items away, how
then did he or anyone see
foreign currencies in the
suitcases?
Buhari’s Refusal to Appear
before The Oputa Panel
The Oputa Panel set up by Chief
Olusegun Obasanjo was not a
constitutional body neither
could its findings be said to be
binding on anyone. It is critical
to note that the Oputa Panel
never indicted Gen.
Muhammadu Buhari. It did not
even have the mandate to do so.
What Gen. Obasanjo tried to do
with the Oputa Panel was akin
to the Truth and Reconciliation
Commission in South Africa
with a view to calming frayed
nerves and to foster unity what
with the pent up anger built up
over the botched June 12, 1993
Presidential Election won by
Chief Moshood Kashimawo
Olawale Abiola a free and fair
process that was scuttled by
Prof. Wole Soyinka’s friend
whose evil action he did not
condemn: Gen. Ibrahim
Badamasi Babangida. The only
straw Prof. Wole Soyinka could
clutch onto in a sea of lies he
amazingly peddles is that the
former Head of State did not
appear before the panel,
forgetting that the Head of State
had immunity for his actions
while in office and as at the time
the panel was set up and until
this very second, the immunity
clause has not been expunged
from our laws. Legally, Gen.
Muhammadu Buhari was under
no obligation to appear before
the panel. I really would not
know why the renowned
professor would overlook these
established facts and run to the
public with half-truths and
outright lies. Until this day, I
have not heard or seen Prof.
Wole Soyinka clamour for the
removal of that vexatious clause
from our laws.
Alleged Human Rights Abuses
Professor Wole Soyinka was
already an elder states man
when Gen. Muhammadu Buhari
became Head of State. He,
therefore, cannot feign
ignorance of the compelling
circumstances that brought in
the military. Those
circumstances required drastic
measures to tackle with a view
to lifting off the nation her
pariah status in the comity of
nations. The prevalent
circumstances at the time
include:
Widespread corruption that
crippled the economy;
Nigeria had assumed the
notorious status of a major drug
trafficking hub;
Excessive violence due to
irresponsible politics on the
part of the civilians who had
held sway leading to
unprecedented carnage and
wanton bloodshed and we
witness a repeat of it right now;
Hoarding of essential food
items, petroleum products and
the essentials for daily living by
an unscrupulous few who
created artificial scarcity to sell
their stock at cut-throat prices;
Excessive dependence on
import and abuse of foreign
exchange allocations as well as
import licensing in such a
manner that encouraged
nepotism, tribalism and
excessive fraud;
All of the foregoing put
excessive pressure on the
economy and created galloping
inflation and the Naira began to
be worthless in terms of its
exchange value with other
major world currencies;
There was a general abysmal
slide in the educational sector
and the nation experienced the
horror of unbridled examination
malpractices and our
institutions were producing
some idiots and imbeciles who
presently ruin everything in the
nation;
Workers were receiving wages
for work not done; Public
servants stayed away from their
work places for days and would
come to work late; Head
teachers and principals in
schools introduced all sorts of
illegal levies on students;
Students were found loitering
aimlessly on the streets during
school hours and indulging in
all forms of crime;
The nation was generating a lot
of revenues from various
sources that were not
judiciously and productively
managed and public
infrastructure were in a state of
total disrepair while state funds
that could have been properly
channeled by vision went into
private pockets; and
There are many more.
It is obvious from all the
foregoing that drastic measures
were required to restore the
image of Nigeria and to put her
on the path of true growth and
development on all fronts.
Though some measures were
truly drastic, they were
inevitable. They were simply
sine qua non to turning around
the fortunes of the nation for
the good of all. There were
instantaneous results in
economic rebound from a
comatose state to a healthy
status. The nation made
massive savings. Inflationary
pressure ebbed. Nigerians
learned to do things in an
orderly fashion. The state of
heightened insecurity was
managed competently and with
drastic measures and the
unending violence was curbed.
Nigerians caught on with the
can – do spirit. The exchange
rate of the Naira to
international currencies
improved. There were massive
investments in infrastructure
within a short time. The
country’s image improved
instantly and we did not borrow
a dime to do any of those
things. Is Prof. Wole Soyinka
feigning ignorance of those
things? He obviously is doing so
for reasons best known to him.
He was a living witness at the
time. Let his conscience be his
judge.
It is, however, not surprising
that those who were the major
beneficiaries of the rot prior to
the Buhari administration and
whose nefarious activities were
cut short in the interest of all
Nigerians are not happy and
still have an axe to grind with
the man who was fair, just and
impartial who also chose to
channel the nation’s wealth
towards productive ends to oil
the engine of growth and true
development, rather than
participate in cornering the
nation’s wealth. Quite a number
of them infused massive funds
into some media houses and
dictate to the editors what to
write and whose image to
destroy. Their common enemy
is Gen. Muhammadu Buhari
who stands with the people
anytime and all the time in an
unflinching manner and no
matter whose Ox was gored.
It beats me that Prof Wole
Soyinka could ignore all these
facts that were extant at the
time to play on the English
Language to tell polished lies
which remain what they are no
matter the finesse that went
into crafting them: pure and
unadulterated and highly
concentrated lies from the pits
of hell.
What the professor did not tell
us is that he was also ashamed
of the status of Nigeria in the
comity of nations at the time.
He did not tell us that he was
disappointed at the turn of
events years after a hard-won
independence from the nation’s
colonial master. He did not
mention salient piercing
questions his peers asked about
the state of affairs in his country
and how ashamed he was.
It is also significant that Prof.
Wole Soyinka did not tell us
what he would have done if he
were in Gen. Buhari’s shoes at
the time. There was this
urgency to stem the tide of gross
indiscipline on all fronts that
made the nation a laughing
stock.
I also find it hard to believe that
Prof. Wole Soyinka chose to
ignore the roles of civilians who
were always serving in every
shade of government who added
the negative image to various
administrations with their
notorious activities.
It is also shocking that he chose
to ignore the realities of the
working of the military
administration under the
leadership of Gen. Muhammadu
Buhari. The decisions were
jointly made at the Supreme
Military Council with many
civilians as advisers at federal
and state levels. He also forgot
or he deliberately chose to
ignore the fact that the laws that
were termed draconian, though
necessary at the time, were all
drafted by civilians who were
lawyers some of whom are
Senior Advocates of Nigeria
today with inputs from civilian
directors and heads of MDAs.
There was no time we really ran
a pure military government in
Nigeria. Civilians ran the
business as Permanent
Secretaries and advisers and
offered their services as drafts
men to the soldiers.
It is interesting – quite
interesting – that Prof. Wole
Soyinka who believes
everything military was evil
accepted to serve in the most
corrupt of all the military
regimes in Nigeria headed by
Gen. Ibrahim Badamasi
Babangida. He was the pioneer
Chairman of the Federal Roads
Safety Commission. I had
actually thought that a man of
principle should never have
accepted to serve under such a
government. Could that be the
reason he was silent at the
atrocities of his good friend and
benefactor, Gen. Ibrahim
Babangida?
I can go on and on. The father
of secret cults on Nigerian
campuses goofed in so many
ways in that cheap essay
written in fine English. It is so
unfortunate that he succeeded
in convincing anyone at all who
also runs with unfounded
rumors just because a revered
Professor of Letters uttered
them.
Facts are truly sacred and even
lies told in the finest language
cannot become truth. It will be
announced from the rooftop.
[/b]

character of Soyinka to dine
with the powers that be in the night only to come
out in the morning to condemn them in order to
endear himself to the unsuspecting public.
Haha! Fowl yansh blown up

People should know that the prof. Is also human and therefore not infallible.

4chi:

Soyinka wasted his time and energy. Ibo cretins are not worthy of such sacrifice.they are an absolutely irredeemable and ungrateful lot.

While he was in solitary confinement , the beast from the east

(ashebe) was globetrotting for biafras recognition. Yet you can see from his last trash book that he,like the majority of ibos are forever besotted with "Awo and his Yoruba people"......

Soyinka was in Prison because of Biafra while Ojukwu was looking for underage teenagers to "slam"...

Garri the 1st:

Soyinka was in Prison because of Biafra while Ojukwu was looking for underage teenagers to "slam"...

Too much "Garri" is not good for your health Take my advice before it's too late buddy

one.east4:
"Typical of a man whose upbringing was admittedly characterized with storm and stress, he established the Seadogs Confraternity during his undergraduate years in the University of Ibadan. We all know the implications of that confraternity in the life of Nigerian universities. Such a man cannot, by every societal standard, be a role model."






I still wonder why yurubas worship mediocres and such a character as Soyenka who championed campus secret cultism.

IBB has proved it again that there is no role model in yurubaland, its either they are crooks or cultists or they are committing suicide like awoalowo did.

Yurubas should come to the east of Niger and see abundance of role models to emulate from: great Zik to Achebe to Ojukwu to Orizu to Ekwueme to Tansi to Cardinal Arinze to Chuka Umunna to .......infact NL cannot contain it.

my friend shutup your an*us there! Who is IBB to talk trash to a whole Soyinka dem? As far as we are concern, IBB is one of the problem of Nigeria as a whole. He established corruption in the system as well as bringing a crook like OBJ to power to loot the treasury. IBB should just hide his head and stop talking trash. We don't want him!

And i quote.Gbam.

And i quote.Gbam!

I have nothing to talk now.i go talk later