BizBooks:

I have looked at the VIN report you forwarded to me and wish to add the following:

1. The vehicle is a 2007 not 2008 model. It says so on the VIN report. You can also tell
by the number 7 which appears at the 10th position of the VIN: 4T1BK46K97U012245

2. It passed emission and safety inspection each year it was tested which is a good thing.

3. It is a one owner car which is also a good thing.

4. It was used in Texas which explains the very high mileage. Texas is a very big state and
getting from one end to the other takes hours. The owner was driving an average of 30,000
miles a year which indicates that his place of work is far from his home. The US average is
about 15,000 miles a year.

Would you have bought this car at the price you did if you had known all these facts? I don't
think so. Next time, do a VIN check before buying no matter how clean the car looks.

monex:

i would def not have. i would have rather preferred a lower mileage car and pay more.

what i want to knw is hw bad this mileage is and if i have bought this car @ a high premium

Fhemmmy:

You are one in few Nigerians . . . Keep it up

monex:
thanks Fhemmy.

but i want to know hw bad this mileage is and if i can still manage it as is.

also what shld be the cost this car. just to know if i bough at a very high premium

monex:
thanks Fhemmy.

but i want to know hw bad this mileage is and if i can still manage it as is.

also what shld be the cost this car. just to know if i bough at a very high premium

calculusx:

I can't imagine what would have happened assuming you bought it from a dealer on NL. Im afraid,you have to live with it.
Here are few tips you can do to keep the Car up & running.

- Replace engine air filter

- Rotate tires

- Replace engine oil and oil filter

- Clean and Adjust rear brakes

- Replace platinum spark plugs @ 60k miles only

- Replace resistor spark plugs

- Inspect the following:

Ball joints and dust covers

Brake lines and hoses

Brake linings,drums,brake pads and discs

Fuel lines and connections

Fuel Tank Band and Fuel Tank

Vapor vent system hoses

Exhaust pipes and mountings

Steering whee,linkage and boots

charcoal canister

Differential Oil

Drive belts

Drive shaft boots

Fuel Tank cap gasket

Steering gear box

Engine Valve Clearance

Transmission Fluid or Oil

- Service Battery

- Inspect nuts and bolts on chasis and body

- Replace Automatic Transmission Fluid

- Replace front wiper inserts

- Replace manual Transmission oil

- Oil and fuel additive

https://www.nairaland.com/1118629/automobile-maintenance-menu

Fhemmmy:

Ummmmmmmmmmmm

calculusx:

L̳̿Ö̤̣̇☺ː̗̀(=)))ː̖́☺Ö̤̣̇L̳̿....im still wondering what would have happened to such dealer. He would have been labell so many Names and his Name would have hit the front page many times. L̳̿Ö̤̣̇☺ː̗̀(=)))ː̖́☺Ö̤̣̇L̳̿

Fhemmmy:

Sans Commante oh, My brother . . .Intentionally rolling back the odometer is not a good thing

La mexx: Fhemmmy, Calculusx, Monex and other car gurus I need your input here. Please I am somehow in a fix. I saw a 2006 Infiniti FX 35 (with Sport, Technology and Touring packages included) with original mileage of 131,000 miles going for $15,990. It looks clean in and out but has had 3 owners. I complained to the dealer about the mileage in relation to the price and further insisted that I would buy the car at a price of $14900. I just want to know whether I had a good deal at $14900 or I could have gotten it for a lower cost considering that it has all the option and it was equally maintained. What do you suggest would have been an ideal price for a car with options and mileage like that.

Do you consider a 2006 car with mileage of 131,000 as high mileage too. Urgently awaiting your response guys.

La mexx:
Do you consider a 2006 car with mileage of 131,000 as high mileage too. Urgently awaiting your response guys.

IdaraCHODB: Related and relevant question, its a Carfax 1 Owner Vehicle but it also has Accident/Damage reported but it looks good and runs good. Its a 2004 year vehicle and it has 130,000 on the odometer and there is no indication of an odometer rollback. Would you buy?

La mexx: Fhemmmy, Calculusx, Monex and other car gurus I need your input here. Please I am somehow in a fix. I saw a 2006 Infiniti FX 35 (with Sport, Technology and Touring packages included) with original mileage of 131,000 miles going for $15,990. It looks clean in and out but has had 3 owners.

La mexx: Fhemmmy, Calculusx, Monex and other car gurus I need your input here. Please I am somehow in a fix. I saw a 2006 Infiniti FX 35 (with Sport, Technology and Touring packages included) with original mileage of 131,000 miles going for $15,990. It looks clean in and out but has had 3 owners. I complained to the dealer about the mileage in relation to the price and further insisted that I would buy the car at a price of $14900. I just want to know whether I had a good deal at $14900 or I could have gotten it for a lower cost considering that it has all the option and it was equally maintained. What do you suggest would have been an ideal price for a car with options and mileage like that.

Do you consider a 2006 car with mileage of 131,000 as high mileage too. Urgently awaiting your response guys.

IdaraCHODB: Related and relevant question, its a Carfax 1 Owner Vehicle but it also has Accident/Damage reported but it looks good and runs good. Its a 2004 year vehicle and it has 130,000 on the odometer and there is no indication of an odometer rollback. Would you buy?

La mexx:
This CARFAX Vehicle History Report is based only on information supplied to CARFAX and available as of 12/17/13 at 6:33:59 AM (EST). Other information about this vehicle, including problems, may not have been reported to CARFAX. Use this report as one important tool, along with a vehicle inspection and test drive, to make a better decision about your next used car.

computerglobal:
For Your Vehicle History Report

Autocheck Report

Carfax Report

NMVTIS Report

Available

Sms ur Vin / Chassis no To 08060365068

BizBooks:
In this Twitter age of 140 characters or less, most people (including myself) find it very
difficult to read long posts such as this. So if you do not have the time to read this,
here’s a summary:

1. Many Nigerian car dealers import cars with very high mileage since they are cheaper.
2. Some will not tell you that the car has very high mileage. Rather they will reduce it
drastically.
3. Do not trust the mileage of any tokunbo car you intend to buy in Nigeria. Verify the
mileage yourself via VIN check.

Here in the US, the conventional wisdom is that Nigerians don’t care about high mileage. I
have heard this from American car dealers numerous times. On one occasion, I was
negotiating price with a car dealer in New York. When I complained that the car has a very
high mileage, he asked where I was shipping it to. I replied “Nigeria” and he promptly
said: “Don’t worry. Nigerians don’t care about high mileage”. I have had similar
encounters with dealers in Chicago, Florida among others.

Now, the question is: could it be true that Nigerians don’t care about high mileage? The
answer is obviously no. Nigerians care about high mileage just as much as anybody else.
But then, how did Americans get the impression that we do not care about high mileage? The
answer lies in Nigerians that buy cars from the US for sale in Nigeria. They definitely do
not care about high mileage. In fact they seek such cars because they are much cheaper.
That’s where Americans got the impression that we do not care about high mileage.

At auctions, whenever a car with very high mileage (say 200,000 and above) comes up, the
Americans usually stand back. Nigerian dealers in attendance will then take over the
bidding especially if it is a Toyota or Honda product. I have seen Nigerian dealers buy
cars with 300,000 miles or more.

Now here comes my main reason for starting this thread. Since it has been established that
Nigerian car dealers regularly import cars with 200 or 300,000 miles, why is it that one
never sees a car for sale with 200,000 miles here and elsewhere in Nigeria? The answer is
simple. Once that car with 300,000 miles gets to Lagos, the mileage magically turns to
120,000 or less. That’s why you frequently see 1999 Toyota Camrys with 100,000 miles or
thereabout for sale in Nigeria.

The point I’m trying to make here is one I have made several times in the past. Do not
trust the mileage of any tokunbo car you see in Nigeria especially if it is an older model
car. You can only trust the mileage after you have independently done a VIN check and
verified that the stated mileage is indeed correct.

The practice of reducing the mileage on a car commonly known as odometer rollback is
illegal in the US. Doing so can land one in prison. Before selling a car to somebody, you
have to provide them with a form called Odometer Disclosure Form. On that form you will
indicate the car’s mileage and sign and swear under penalty of perjury that it is correct.
I assume that under the law, it is also illegal to roll back a car’s odometer in Nigeria.
But since that law is not enforced, nobody pays much attention to it. As a result,
odometer rollback is rampant in Nigeria.

Unfortunately, apart from running a VIN check, there is no scientific way of knowing if a
car’s odometer has been rolled back (as far as I know). A good rule of thumb is to
multiply the car’s age by 15,000 (some experts like Siena say 12,000. But let’s use 15,000
since the US is very big in land mass). So for instance to roughly estimate the mileage of
a 2000 model car, do the following:

13 (age of a 2000 model car) multiply by 15,000 = 195,000 miles (give or take a few
thousand).

Suffice it to say that this formula is not scientific. Use it as a general guide. If you
discover that the car’s mileage is much lower than the result of this formula, be cautious.

Disclosure: I also buy cars with very high mileage at auction. In fact, I have bought a
car with 180,000 miles, another with 190,000 miles and yet another with 208,000 miles.
However, I instructed my business partners back in Lagos never to reduce the mileage on my
cars. Unfortunately, I cannot guarantee that they adhere to this instruction since I am
not in Lagos. So treat every car’s mileage including mine with utmost suspicion.

BizBooks:
In this Twitter age of 140 characters or less, most people (including myself) find it very
difficult to read long posts such as this. So if you do not have the time to read this,
here’s a summary:

1. Many Nigerian car dealers import cars with very high mileage since they are cheaper.
2. Some will not tell you that the car has very high mileage. Rather they will reduce it
drastically.
3. Do not trust the mileage of any tokunbo car you intend to buy in Nigeria. Verify the
mileage yourself via VIN check.

Here in the US, the conventional wisdom is that Nigerians don’t care about high mileage. I
have heard this from American car dealers numerous times. On one occasion, I was
negotiating price with a car dealer in New York. When I complained that the car has a very
high mileage, he asked where I was shipping it to. I replied “Nigeria” and he promptly
said: “Don’t worry. Nigerians don’t care about high mileage”. I have had similar
encounters with dealers in Chicago, Florida among others.

Now, the question is: could it be true that Nigerians don’t care about high mileage? The
answer is obviously no. Nigerians care about high mileage just as much as anybody else.
But then, how did Americans get the impression that we do not care about high mileage? The
answer lies in Nigerians that buy cars from the US for sale in Nigeria. They definitely do
not care about high mileage. In fact they seek such cars because they are much cheaper.
That’s where Americans got the impression that we do not care about high mileage.

At auctions, whenever a car with very high mileage (say 200,000 and above) comes up, the
Americans usually stand back. Nigerian dealers in attendance will then take over the
bidding especially if it is a Toyota or Honda product. I have seen Nigerian dealers buy
cars with 300,000 miles or more.

Now here comes my main reason for starting this thread. Since it has been established that
Nigerian car dealers regularly import cars with 200 or 300,000 miles, why is it that one
never sees a car for sale with 200,000 miles here and elsewhere in Nigeria? The answer is
simple. Once that car with 300,000 miles gets to Lagos, the mileage magically turns to
120,000 or less. That’s why you frequently see 1999 Toyota Camrys with 100,000 miles or
thereabout for sale in Nigeria.

The point I’m trying to make here is one I have made several times in the past. Do not
trust the mileage of any tokunbo car you see in Nigeria especially if it is an older model
car. You can only trust the mileage after you have independently done a VIN check and
verified that the stated mileage is indeed correct.

The practice of reducing the mileage on a car commonly known as odometer rollback is
illegal in the US. Doing so can land one in prison. Before selling a car to somebody, you
have to provide them with a form called Odometer Disclosure Form. On that form you will
indicate the car’s mileage and sign and swear under penalty of perjury that it is correct.
I assume that under the law, it is also illegal to roll back a car’s odometer in Nigeria.
But since that law is not enforced, nobody pays much attention to it. As a result,
odometer rollback is rampant in Nigeria.

Unfortunately, apart from running a VIN check, there is no scientific way of knowing if a
car’s odometer has been rolled back (as far as I know). A good rule of thumb is to
multiply the car’s age by 15,000 (some experts like Siena say 12,000. But let’s use 15,000
since the US is very big in land mass). So for instance to roughly estimate the mileage of
a 2000 model car, do the following:

13 (age of a 2000 model car) multiply by 15,000 = 195,000 miles (give or take a few
thousand).

Suffice it to say that this formula is not scientific. Use it as a general guide. If you
discover that the car’s mileage is much lower than the result of this formula, be cautious.

Disclosure: I also buy cars with very high mileage at auction. In fact, I have bought a
car with 180,000 miles, another with 190,000 miles and yet another with 208,000 miles.
However, I instructed my business partners back in Lagos never to reduce the mileage on my
cars. Unfortunately, I cannot guarantee that they adhere to this instruction since I am
not in Lagos. So treat every car’s mileage including mine with utmost suspicion.