Fhemmmy:

I love it when we compare Apple to Apple . . .Lol.
Those European nations have great transport network system that people dont have to always drive all over the place . . But in Nigeria, we have almost nothing, people have to almost drive to go into their own bathrooms . . .

Fhemmmy:

I love it when we compare Apple to Apple . . .Lol.
Those European nations have great transport network system that people dont have to always drive all over the place . . But in Nigeria, we have almost nothing, people have to almost drive to go into their own bathrooms . . .

Ola one:
Bro, you said the European countries have great transport network yet they had to adjust road mappings to accommodate Nigerian churches.

Now, imagine the state of things in a country like Naija.

These churches need to be considerate.

Ola one:
Bro, you said the European countries have great transport network yet they had to adjust road mappings to accommodate Nigerian churches.

Now, imagine the state of things in a country like Naija.

These churches need to be considerate.

eGuerrilla:

Joe Igbokwe has proposed a moratorium on church traffic during the period of road expansion. I have also suggested using tele-conferencing solutions. Assuming you have enough regard for the long-suffering commuters who ply that route; what do you suggest @Fhemmmy?

Fhemmmy:

Considerate? you dont think that was considerate, you think some of them cant afford to build such churches in the mainland or the highland Lagos, but they relocate them into the bush of Ibadan - Lagos expressway and yet you want them to be considerate, they are not even building on the highway, are they? in the Bush and you talking of consideration?

Fhemmmy:

With or without those churches, that is a heavily used road that leads to other states out of Lagos, the road ought to be widened and make sure it is not a death trap . . .

naptu2: 1) Appropriate car parks (multi-level car parks if possible). The state and local governments should have assessed the capacity of the auditoriums and ensured that they have adequate parking facilities before granting planning permission.

Tolexander: we all know the situation of the road when there isn't any church activity at the RCCG and other indicted churches and the situation of the road when they are having their activities.
You will prefer not to travel at all when there is redemption camp time. This makes it very obvious that the contribution of the churches on the road are heavy, hence my claim for an heavy tax for the expansion and maintainance of the road.

That is not really true, Sir . . . Now we have so many people that work in Lagos that reside in Ibadan unlike before when they are able to afford to reside within Lagos, there was never Mowe and the rest of those new settlement around that axis, so you cant compare the traffic of then to the traffic of Now.

Ola one:
Okay. Let's assume they have been very considerate and the government is willing to modernize the road, what about maintenance?

They should be taxed one way or the other. The government must give them flyovers, etc and the government must earn something back. Well, in form of taxes.

Fhemmmy:

Now i know you are joking, teleconference for revival? Lol
Besides, do you know that most of the people there are actually going there for help and to praise God, cos that is all they have left in them, Imagine Nigerian society without them as well as mosque.

debosky:

This is the key issue - the impacts should have been assessed before permitting development, not the current practice of develop first and deal with consequences (more like live with them) afterwards. There is talk of even expanding RCCG's camp capacity, but no talk of increased provision to reduce the impacts on highway users.

Dominiquez: Imagine how IGBOKWE justified NASFAT cos his APC bosses are muslims. I foresee doom if APC take over power.
1) The will legalize child marriage
2)The will persecute the churches
3)Nigeria will be Islamized
4)Sharia law will be forced on us all.
5)Islamic banking will be order of the day.

We are watching.

naptu2: The government is responsible for providing the long term solutions, while the churches can also help with short term solutions.

The LRT Orange Line (Marina-Redeemed Camp) and the Purple Line (Ojo-Redeemed Camp) will ultimately be the most important solution. I believe that, no matter how wide you make the expressway, you will still need to implement railway solutions to the problem.

The churches can also help out by decentralising their activities. Most of them have branches across Lagos and the ministers can decide to visit these branches in turn, so that we don't have a situation where everybody needs to descend on Lagos-Ibadan Expressway.

eGuerrilla:

The last time I checked God voiced no objections to the use of technology.

Do I take you have no meaningful solutions to proffer to the recurring cases of missed appointments; increased levels of stress; needless loss of lives, and much more - which remains the lot of Nigerians, while we wait for the road expansion to be taken to completion?

deeptesting:

The question is did they build the church on the road? Lagos-Ibadan road ought to be dualized to at lease accommodate 10 vehicles on each lane and ensure that all vehicles veering to these churches or whatever maintain a single lane...Where else should they locate this churches? I wish Joe Igbokwe proffered a solution in his write up. It's simply the failure of the government to live upto its responsibility and they should be held responsible for the sufferings and death of Nigerians on that road.

Tolexander: All these churches should be heavily taxed so as to realise the resources that will be use to construct new roads and the maintainance since they are one of the major users of the road.

Fhemmmy:

That is not really true, Sir . . . Now we have so many people that work in Lagos that reside in Ibadan unlike before when they are able to afford to reside within Lagos, there was never Mowe and the rest of those new settlement around that axis, so you cant compare the traffic of then to the traffic of Now.

My brother and his wife once
slept on Lagos-Ibadan
expressway as a result of
Redeemed Camp Holy Ghost
Night programme after a trip to
Abeokuta. Few years back when
members of NAFSAT did a night
programme, commuters paid a
heavy price on that road so much
that NAFSAT took pages on
national newspapers to
apologize to Nigerians. Millions of
Nigerians have tales of woes to
tell in the last 20 years on Lagos-
Ibadan expressway.

Millions of Nigerians
have suffered untold
hardships and pains
since the early 90s when
Churches started relocating to
Lagos-Ibadan expressway. The
late General AbduKareem Adisa
once drove to the Redeemed
Camp to complain that the
Church must find a way to
address this man-made problem
but all to no avail. More than 20
years after the visit, Churches,
companies, schools, universities
etc have been relocating to
Lagos-Ibadan expressway in
droves. This is a road that was
built in 1974 and it has remained
same for 40years. A road
suffering untold pressure from
heavy traffic that it has become
crate ridden and a death trap, yet
pentecoastal chruches struggle
to add to the pressure of the
road by relocating to the road.
What is the motive for this
predilection to be sited on the
Expressway?

AjanleKoko: It's a tough one sha.
The majority of Nigerians have voted for church as their major preoccupation. And it's not like the churches are building on the roads itself. You could have built a major shopping mall or another Alaba market on that axis, and it would generate the same amount of traffic. What would you do then, close the market?

The government should just do what they should as government - charge the church occupants some sort of land use charge or tax, and use the revenues to expand the rods, build flyovers or something that can provide some sort of escape. Or even build alternative routes. You can't penalize people for doing church if they choose to. Just make them pay one way or another.

Interestingly, Igbokwe is an APC chieftain, and those are the two states in power in Lagos and Ogun. So he and his fellow politicians should put their thinking caps on. Shikena

fuke:

So they should be inflicting pains on millions until the road is expanded.

With all the churches, our economy was still written off AFDB.

Igbokwe has proffered solution. Let them stop the nonsense
and allow the branches to do the worshiping and praise singing.

God does not inflict pains on people.