BraveGuy:

Tell me.

As you are at it, tell me the difference between Whole & Partial?
Where whole is the source/origin and partial is just a carrier.
Thanks

MostHigh:

This guy didnt make any sense here.

just a definition will do.

anything else will be of the evil one

truthislight:

Since he could not answer a simple question, i rest my case then.

BraveGuy:

All I can read is more and more of spiritual pride!
That was exactly what made satan to fall and become a castaway!

truthislight:

Can you point out any comment of mine that points to pride ?

My interest here is the abuse of the word "Lucifer" which means 'shining one'.

If the BIBLE was not translated into anglish or so languages, the word we would have seen there(in the book of Isaiah14:12) is 'shining one, wish is not a deregotary word and can be used to praise any son of the almighty God.

It is you that needs to drop some of the lies you have come to accept as truth.

Peace

truthislight:

Can you point out any comment of mine that points to pride ?

My interest here is the abuse of the word "Lucifer" which means 'shining one'.

If the BIBLE was not translated into english or so languages, the word we would have seen there(in the book of Isaiah14:12) is 'shining one, wish is not a deregotary word and can be used to praise any son of the almighty God.

It is you that needs to drop some of the lies you have come to accept as truth.

Peace

BraveGuy:

So because Lucifer means "shining one" and it's specifically used for a son of God it means it is okay to use it for ALL the sons of God?

If I were to follow your thinking, then Gabriel, which means "God is my strength" or "strong man of God" can be used for any son of God, isn't it?

Also, following your logic, every son of God can be called The Son of God or Messiah as well.

If that is the case, then I ask, why bother with names for specific beings?

Why did the Angel with whom Jacob wrestled specific in changing his name from Jacob to Esau?
Why was Jesus Christ specific about giving an overcomer "the stone a new name written, which no man knows except him who receives it." (Rev 2:17)?

I can see that you're bent on so-called new wine of Obadiah in your new bottle without due diligence on your part - that is very okay with me, but don't try to defend half-truth or lies with poor logic!

While I respect your choice of what you want to learn or who to learn it from, you must also remember that Jesus Christ will NEVER be Lucifer and Lucifer will never be Jesus Christ. God remains as God and nothing comes close! The Son of God created ALL things for His pleasure and He does what He wills, however, He has not left us in darkness.

If you truly want to get some new wine, read from authors like Cecil Ducile or George Warnock (http://www.georgewarnock.com/feast-main.html) .... that will set you up in good-stead, not the one mixing truth with lies and confusion.

God Bless.

obadiah777: cecile ducile or george warnock ? so lets get this right. you are reading from men who are reading and talking about a book you already have at home ? third party information ? no wonder you dont know what you are saying half the time. you are lost. lets find you

BraveGuy:

You've got it all mixed up, Obadiah. The fact that I recommended their books doesn't mean that it is where I have my breakfast, lunch & dinner. I have seen some of their books before and read some, and I agree with what they teach, that doesn't mean that's where I study my Bible knowledge; I study at the feet of the Holy Ghost.

And even if I read from them, what's the problem? They don't have it all mixed up like you - no adding of personal opinions/lies/truth together to create a new doctrine. Anyone who is of the truth will know the truth when he sees one. Do you say some truths, yes (from the some of the things I have seen you write), but a good portion is mixed with heresies and personal opinions, which you shouldn't be teaching, because it misleads.

Reading any of their works will only make a believer to think differently, you can read it all in one place except with God.

BraveGuy:
You haven't read a single article of mine and you want to judge what I write (or say), Obadiah? That's seriously laughable

I guess you wished you knew me; No need.
Anyway, I am not important - only Jesus is important.

obadiah777: but you do err Chief >>> ecclesiastes 12 vs 12 My son, beware of anything beyond these. Of making many books there is no end, and much study is a weariness of the flesh. <<< dont go beyond the bible. thats all you need

colosians 2 vs 9 For in him dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily. <<< in him ( the bible ) dwells the Godhead ( everything you need to know about the lord ). not from white men. white men cant tell you about God or christ. only israel can tell you about God and christ because these were made in the image of GoD. see you are getting biblical instructions from the beasts of the field. thats like a white man teaching you how to make efo riro or ofe onugbu. its crazy

BraveGuy:

#1. I can also see that you're racist as if in Christ race matters.
#2. Now that you know Bible in Africa, especially Nigeria, you have forgotten the history that it was these "white men" like Mungo Park, Mary Slessor, etc that brought you the Gospel.
#3. If you know the history of Holy Ghost Gospel in Nigeria, you will know that most of the genuine servants of God there were strongly influenced by Pa Elton.
#4. For your knowledge, Cecil Ducile was not white, he was Jamaican.
#5. I doubt you have anything to learn from anyone because you already have your doctrine all figured out, so my articles would be of no use to you.

obadiah777: white men brought us the gospel ? lwtmb. obviously you have not read history. if you have such a shallow knowledge of history why exactly should i take anything you are saying seriously ? before the white man started coming to africa in the 1400s, black people ruled and controlled europe from around 200 AD to 1400s. during that period is when black people brought the scriptures to white people.

BraveGuy:

Of course!
Quite obvious, isn't it?
I didn't know you were quite this racial?
You must be one of those embittered African-American folks who are so deluded that they always want to see a Black Jesus!
Sad to know!

What's the difference between the white folk who think he's superior to the black guy and you? Nothing, just the colour of the skin. Pathetic to say the least!

obadiah777: white men brought us the gospel ? lwtmb. obviously you have not read history. if you have such a shallow knowledge of history why exactly should i take anything you are saying seriously ? before the white man started coming to africa in the 1400s, black people ruled and controlled europe from around 200 AD to 1400s. during that period is when black people brought the scriptures to white people.

BraveGuy:

Of course!
Quite obvious, isn't it?
I didn't know you were quite this racial?
You must be one of those embittered African-American folks who are so deluded that they always want to see a Black Jesus!
Sad to know!

What's the difference between the white folk who think he's superior to the black guy and you? Nothing, just the colour of the skin. Pathetic to say the least!

mcfynest:


GOD BLESS YOU SIRE.....even in historical films, we see blacks dominating affairs back then. but its just surprising how we just got packed here....

mcfynest:

PLS WHO WAS JOHN DESCRIBING HERE

Revelation 1:14 His head and his hairs were white like wool, as white as snow; and his eyes were as a flame of fire; 1:15 And his feet like unto fine brass, as if they burned in a furnace; and his voice as the sound of many waters.

obadiah777: its all prophesy sire. the white man was ordained and established to purify us in the furnace of affliction. his will be the last empire till the second coming. however the power the power given to him got to his head and he decided to erase us out of history and put himself in place of us. all of which are prophesies in the bible. and all of which he will pay for very soon.

BraveGuy:

You're wrong and racist. It is the children of disobedience (irrespective of race/colour/gender) that God has ordained and established to cause His children to learn obedience through the things they will suffer.

Btw, what do you really know about His Second Coming?

Anyway, I have no personal axe to grind with you, just that you write/teach a lot of erroneous stuff.

obadiah777: its all prophesy sire. the white man was ordained and established to purify us in the furnace of affliction. his will be the last empire till the second coming. however the power the power given to him got to his head and he decided to erase us out of history and put himself in place of us. all of which are prophesies in the bible. and all of which he will pay for very soon.

mcfynest:

then how was our ancestors brain formatted that they couldnt remember anything

just curious sir

obadiah777: the lord did that. your mind can be wiped clean by God. >>>> isaiah 29 vs 14 Therefore, behold, I will proceed to do a marvellous work among this people, even a marvellous work and a wonder: for the wisdom of their wise men shall perish, and the understanding of their prudent men shall be hid. its called been killed. walking zombies

mcfynest:

dayummm


and pls tell this people to stop associating you with satanist

*Kails*:
ok so this thread is about biggin up obadiah777, ok cool
but I don't get the 'satan ministry' part tho...

BraveGuy:

#1. I can also see that you're racist as if in Christ race matters.
#2. Now that you know Bible in Africa, especially Nigeria, you have forgotten the history that it was these "white men" like Mungo Park, Mary Slessor, etc that brought you the Gospel.
#3. If you know the history of Holy Ghost Gospel in Nigeria, you will know that most of the genuine servants of God there were strongly influenced by Pa Elton.
#4. For your knowledge, Cecil Ducile was not white, he was Jamaican.
#5. I doubt you have anything to learn from anyone because you already have your doctrine all figured out, so my articles would be of no use to you.

obadiah777: you err not knowing scriptures. i implore you to read about the beast with 7 heads and 10 horns. better yet take time to study daniel chapter 7.the lord deals with empires to inflict global punishments on people. they are called trumpets ( hosea 8 vs 1 )( read about the fourth vial ) and you said you write articles ? lol

MostHigh:
why take pride in systematic mind control and assimilation
Mary Slessor an agent of the christopagan traditions
not all of them were as aggressive as john Hawkins but the aim was still the same.
The further subjugation of a people who had already experienced slavery for over 1000yrs
Goldie and his kind came with capitalism and Mary Slessor and her kind with religion, both are classic tools used to enforce slavery.

BraveGuy:

Of course!
Quite obvious, isn't it?
I didn't know you were quite this racial?
You must be one of those embittered African-American folks who are so deluded that they always want to see a Black Jesus!
Sad to know!

What's the difference between the white folk who think he's superior to the black guy and you? Nothing, just the colour of the skin. Pathetic to say the least!

mcfynest:

then how was our ancestors brain formatted that they couldnt remember anything

just curious sir