PAGAN 9JA:


stop yabbing. Even if the ancestors of Arabs did convert to islam. it is not a full conversion. Because islam does retain most of the earlier Pagan rituals (sacrifice, circambulition, washing from sacred spring before prayer,etc), from the earlier Arab religion. I am infact going to create a topic on this soon in the religious section.

so therefore Arabs did not really convert. they just modified, albeit in a bad distorted way.

The pure Arabs know this , therefore it cannot be expected from them to leave their current religion. Only remodifcation back to its original form must be propagated to them. The Pure Arabs have to this date maintained all their tribes and culture across the Gulf Regions.

As for YOU. you have accepted a foreign version of the Gods, you call the Gods by foreign name, etc. you are identitiless and directionless. May the Gods forgive you.

If you are proud of being African, then may I ask you in what way exactly are you proud of being African?

all you said so far was to praise and propagate the Arab BEdouin Law (Sharia'a ) and Arab religion.

The World is going in two directions in the future. Either atheist or Pagan. If you believe in Higher Forces , it is time you make the right decision. JOin Traditional Religion and leave your blackened past.

The ways of Islam are from God Almighty, passed down to us through the last prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him). Who are we to say that those ways are too similar to the pagan rituals of the pre-Islamic Arabs? Who are we to say that they are too foreign for us Africans? When do the created beings like us ever have the right to question the instructions of our Creator?

I believe that God has a great future in store for Africans, and that Africa will be a main vehicle to be used by God to restore the prestige and eminence of Islam in the world. As an African Muslim, I'm proud and excited for this.

Traditional religion (paganism), with its dependence on magic(juju) and lack of a encompassing moral philosophy, is not sufficient to create a harmonious and just society. Look at how scam artists and common criminals use juju to protect themselves. This religion does not make people more moral. It's simply seen as a way for people to get what they want. Moreover, magic and polytheistic paganism is an abomination in the eyes of God.

RayPedra:

What are you even talking about? If you support the deportation of illegal immigrants in Nigeria, you should inform Lagos State government. This initiative was taken up by the Plateau State govt. It is Plateau State being spoken of here. Moreover, why must everything be about religion? What has it got to do with implementing the right thing? Religious sentiments has been the Genesis of most of the chaos in this Country. You know what Mister? Please go to Saudi illegally since you're a muslim - perhaps you think you'll be spared for that reason but I can assure you that they're gonna kick out your ass. They don't care like that so please chillax

Can't you see that while the government is cracking down on illegal immigration from Muslim countries like Niger, Chad, and Mali, it's turning a blind eye to the Xtian illegal immigrants from Benin, Cameroon, Ghana, etc. Isn't it obvious that the government (at every level) want to turn the demographics against Muslims by bringing in non-Muslims abroad to overpopulate us Muslims? They want to disenfranchise us even more.

alnaijiri:

Can't you see that while the government is cracking down on illegal immigration from Muslim countries like Niger, Chad, and Mali, it's turning a blind eye to the Xtian illegal immigrants from Benin, Cameroon, Ghana, etc. Isn't it obvious that the government (at every level) want to turn the demographics against Muslims by bringing in non-Muslims abroad to overpopulate us Muslims? They want to disenfranchise us even more.

How are u sure about that. Well if thats d best strategy to wash out terrorism in the country then i stamp and aprove it

bammo:
How are u sure about that. Well if thats d best strategy to wash out terrorism in the country then i stamp and aprove it

It's not a good strategy at all; it will validate the resentment that Muslims in this country have for the government. Way to go for being a bigot, punishing an entire people just because a few among them commit terrorist acts. What's the difference between you and a white racist in the west, persecuting all black people just because a few are criminals?

alnaijiri:

The ways of Islam are from God Almighty, passed down to us through the last prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him).

THats what HE said. but its a LIE. there is no proof that God came to him. Infact most of the rituals are copied from Arab Paganism while most of the scriptures are copied from abrahamic christianity/judaism.

Even the style of praying is PAgan. The Pagan Arabs used to pray through poetry, just like many Africans pray through music and dance.

The Arab priest/Kahin, used to usually compose the poems. Imru Al Qays, a Prince of the GReat Pagan Kindah dynasty also had his poems hung on the Ka'abah.

Who are we to say that those ways are too similar to the pagan rituals of the pre-Islamic Arabs?

We have proof , namely, the Qur'an, the Hadith, the Kitab Al Asnam and current cult practices among the Bedu of Arabia, especially Southern Arabia.

Who are we to say that they are too foreign for us Africans?

Ofcourse its foreign. This is not a Nigerian religion.

When do the created beings like us ever have the right to question the instructions of our Creator?

You are right. But a Arab preacher called muhammad is not our Creator, so we have every right to question him, since we are free-born Tribesmen and free from Arab rule.

I believe that God has a great future in store for Africans, and that Africa will be a main vehicle to be used by God to restore the prestige and eminence of Islam in the world. As an African Muslim, I'm proud and excited for this.

Is that the Greatness you have reserved for Africans? To spread an Arab religion?

just like your BH brothers are attempting to do by killing millions of innocents

I spit on your dumb-founded ideas.

You have no vision for Africas great culture, philosophy, resource-management, development, education, etc.

All you care is for Arab religion.

Traditional religion (paganism), with its dependence on magic(juju) and lack of a encompassing moral philosophy, is not sufficient to create a harmonious and just society.

You are a brainwashed man. Traditional Paganism is not all about magic. It is about Prayers to the Supreme Forces and ritual and community worship. It is about your inner spirit.

It is not about memorizing some Arabic poems and bowing five times a day, just because you are forced to.

Talking about harmonious, we know what kind of harmonious society your muslim brothers are creating. Forget Nigeria, look at Somalia, Afghanistan, Syria, Egypt, ALgeria, Mali, etc.

Look at how scam artists and common criminals islamic terrorists and mullahs use islam to protect themselves.

This religion does not make people more moral.

I agree. THis is about the only important truth you stated in your entire discourse. To bein with, Religion was never meant to be mixed with politics, laws, morality, behaviour, etc.

Morality and Law is subject to different cultures. You might consider women covering their bodies a must, but in many other cultures, they do not.

You might say eating Pig is haram, but many other cultures will continue to eat Pig for their survival and nutrition.

SO stop imposing others beliefs on yourself and on us as well.

True Religion/ Paganism is about SPirituality and connecting your soul, which is the only fragment of Spirituality you have in your material life, to the SPiritual Realm, i.e., the Gods.

It's simply seen as a way for people to get what they want. Moreover, magic and polytheistic paganism is an abomination in the eyes of God.

Well then why do you pray? Dont you pray because you want a safe life and good luck?

God never said polytheism, magic , etc., is an abomination in his eyes.

Is is that dumb muhammad who said so.

and btw there are worser crimes in the world, like blowing up people in the name of your religion or r.aping non-believers and converting them forcefully. You better concentrate more on that.