we share the same culture and same concept of life. we are from the same stock .saying we only share language similarities is bogus to say the least . at what period are those trades? agai i'm talking prior-during the migration, besides Igbos are Bantu.

Black Kenichi:
Actually There has been contact between West African and bantu speaking ethnic groups before the Europeans came along and colonised Africa. The was trade between the Igbo and other SE Nigerian ethnics and Bantu speaking ethnics from Gabon & Eq Guinea.


Which bantu are you talking about? The Zulu? Xhosa? Bakongo? Bateke? Tswana? Kikuyu? Luhya? Herero?
There's no such thing as Bantu unity! The only thing that the Bantu have in common is their closely related language group!
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bantu_languages
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bantu_peoples

Other than closely related languages the Bantu have very little in common.


Of course. The "Bantu" migrants were incredibly skilled farmers and great blacksmiths, while the Africans in pre "bantu" East, Central and Southern African weren't as advanced.


I don't know. The Bantu migration did start about 4000 years ago so we can never truly know.

in few words Bantu didn't go south and east because they feared West Af, as u early assumed.

CAMEROONPRIDE: we share the same culture and same concept of life. we are from the same stock .saying we only share language similarities is bogus to say the least . at what period are those trades? agai i'm talking prior-during the migration, besides Igbos are Bantu. in few words Bantu didn't go south and east because they feared West Af, as u early assumed.

Igbos are not Bantus, they are Igboids (w/e that is) they do not speak a Bantu language. The only Bantu group currently in Nigeria are the TIV and they are considered Semi-Bantu

Fulaman198:

Igbos are not Bantus, they are Igboids (w/e that is) they do not speak a Bantu language. The only Bantu group currently in Nigeria are the TIV and they are considered Semi-Bantu

dont mind him

igbos dont have wide faces

Fulaman198:

Igbos are not Bantus, they are Igboids (w/e that is) they do not speak a Bantu language. The only Bantu group currently in Nigeria are the TIV and they are considered Semi-Bantu

Igbos are Bantu. we are a patriarchal society, there is no such thing as Semi Bantu . Tiv are Bantu, effik are Bantu, Ibibio are Bantu and Igbos are Bantu . even in Cameroon we have some groups called semi Bantu E.g Bamileke.

onila:

dont mind him

igbos dont have wide faces

isi ewu . how u dey?

CAMEROONPRIDE: Igbos are Bantu. we are a patriarchal society, there is no such thing as Semi Bantu . Tiv are Bantu, effik are Bantu, Ibibio are Bantu and Igbos are Bantu . even in Cameroon we have some groups called semi Bantu E.g Bamileke.

Bantu implies of speaking a Bantu language.

Efik, Igbo and Ibibio are not Bantu.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Igbo_language - Igbo
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Efik_language - Efik
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ibibio_language - Ibibio
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tiv_language - TIV

As you can see only Tiv is classified as Bantu

CAMEROONPRIDE: isi ewu . how u dey?

we dont have wide, round faces

stop calling eastern Nigerians bantu

Fulaman198:

Bantu implies of speaking a Bantu language.

Efik, Igbo and Ibibio are not Bantu.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Igbo_language - Igbo
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Efik_language - Efik
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ibibio_language - Ibibio
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tiv_language - TIV

As you can see only Tiv is classified as Bantu

language classifications are not always accurate ,and can't really b used to determine the origin or nature of a group of people.
livin int the mids of different and many languages esp in a country like Nigeria can create a lot of alterationsin the way people speak their own languages, what i'm saying is a lot of languages today were different 200 years ago.

if u were a white men trying to classify pidgin what would say? anglo saxoid?
how do u say advertisement in hausa?

onila: we dont have wide, round faces

stop calling eastern Nigerians bantu

u should b proud to b called Bantu. it is an honor. Igbos must proud of their ancestry .

onila: we dont have wide, round faces

stop calling eastern Nigerians bantu

Let us not act like Ayanle/Somali now, There are bantu people who do not have wide, round faces as well. All your Congolese singers are Bantu. Bantu is just a language group, not a physical look. I believe the Tutsi are also Bantu, they don't have wide faces.

Fulaman198:

Let us not act like Ayanle/Somali now, There are bantu people who do not have wide, round faces as well. All your Congolese singers are Bantu. Bantu is just a language group, not a physical look. I believe the Tutsi are also Bantu, they don't have wide faces.

tutsi is not bantu

its known fact that tutsi came from somalia

onila:

tutsi is not bantu

its known fact that tutsi came from somalia

u better shut up. dumb azz
known by who?

CAMEROONPRIDE: u should b proud to b called Bantu. it is an honor. Igbos must proud of their ancestry .

igbos dont look congolese

we dont have round faces

pls stop claiming us

CAMEROONPRIDE: u better shut up. dumb azz
known by who?

tutsi look somali

in my anthropology african forum, we debate dat all the time

even tutsi believe they came from somalia area

onila:

igbos dont look congolese

we dont have round faces

pls stop claiming us

anyanle no2 so i'm claiming u? anyway b it. Igbos are Bantu or what people call semi-Bantu just like effik Ibibio , anang ekoi, essang etc.
we sha-g-ged our way to igboland

CAMEROONPRIDE:
language classifications are not always accurate ,and can't really b used to determine the origin or nature of a group of people.
livin int the mids of different and many languages esp in a country like Nigeria can create a lot of alterationsin the way people speak their own languages, what i'm saying is a lot of languages today were different 200 years ago.

if u were a white men trying to classify pidgin what would say? anglo saxoid?
how do u say advertisement in hausa?

Pidgin is a language that is a Germanic language, it is derived from English (it is a dialect of English), however there is no such thing as a Pidgin ethnic group because Pidgin is spoken by most people in Anglophone West Africa. Even Patois which is what Jamaicans speak is classified as a Germanic English language.

Talla I believe is how you say advertisement in Hausa (but it means Promotion like to promote a product).

onila:

tutsi is not bantu

its known fact that tutsi came from somalia

LOL what is that you Onila?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tutsi#Language

Tutsi are not Somalis at all ROFL, they are Bantu, again, Bantu is a language group not a "physical look" please don't turn Ayanle/Somali on me

Fulaman198: The only Nilotes we have in West Africa are the Kanuri (Beri-beri), and the various Songhai groups (Djerma/Zarma, Dendi, Sonrai Korya chinni, etc).

Technically they're not Nilotic. They're Nilo-Saharan. Nilotic is a branch of the Nilo-Saharan Language Phylum. Also Nilotics and Chadic/Central Saharan look different from each other.

Fulaman198: Wodabe Fulani like all Mbororo roots Fulani like myself (those who have always reared-cattle) are of Senegambian origin with roots also in Northern West Africa pre-Arabs. Touaregs are original Berbers who also have roots in North Africa.

That's true. However many West Africans have their origins further north as well. You gotta remember that the Sahara area only stated to become a desert about 8-9 kya.

Fulaman198: We are not related to Cushitic people but share some cultural similarities with them.

I'll take your word for it.

Fulaman198: I still believe that all west Africans though must have some root in present day Sudan. Sudan like Nigeria is one country that contains all the language groups of Africa.

I think the origins of Niger-Kordofanian West Africans is around Chad and the Darfur Area. The fact that most West African men are y-DNA Haplogroup E-M2/E1b1a seems to be that it was a founder effect. Also scientists have found out that the Y-DNA haplogroup E1b1c/E-M329 is actually part of the E-M2. Thus E-M2 is now being called E-V38.
Y-DNA haplogroup E1b1c/E-M329 is found mainly amongst Omotic speaking men.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/E1b1a

I'd say that Niger-Kordofanian West Africans were originally a highly bottlenecked Central Saharan group. This bottlenecking (inbreeding) caused them to form their own African genetic cluster!

CAMEROONPRIDE: anyanle no2 so i'm claiming u? anyway b it. Igbos are Bantu or what people call semi-Bantu just like effik Ibibio , anang ekoi, essang etc.
we sha-g-ged our way to igboland

efik-the prettier version of the bantu

onila: tutsi look somali

in my anthropology african forum, we debate dat all the time

even tutsi believe they came from somalia area

ah ah beer parlour debate. I heard u . lmao Yoruba(some think they come from Saudi arabi) igbos think they are jews etc so this is irrelevant , irrelevant groups and non achievers tend to create a fake history to feel good about themselves etc tec et puis voila. Tutsi are Bantu. Tutsi and Hutu are social status .

igbo look ivorian n not bantu

onila: igbo look ivorian n not bantu

how do Ivoirian look like?

Black Kenichi:
Technically they're not Nilotic. They're Nilo-Saharan. Nilotic is a branch of the Nilo-Saharan Language Phylum. Also Nilotics and Chadic/Central Saharan look different from each other.


That's true. However many West Africans have their origins further north as well. You gotta remember that the Sahara area only stated to become a desert about 8-9 kya.


I'll take your word for it.


I think the origins of Niger-Kordofanian West Africans is around Chad and the Darfur Area. The fact that most West African men are y-DNA Haplogroup E-M2/E1b1a seems to be that it was a founder effect. Also scientists have found out that the Y-DNA haplogroup E1b1c/E-M329 is actually part of the E-M2. Thus E-M2 is now being called E-V38.
Y-DNA haplogroup E1b1c/E-M329 is found mainly amongst Omotic speaking men.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/E1b1a

I'd say that Niger-Kordofanian West Africans were originally a highly bottlenecked Central Saharan group. This bottlenecking (inbreeding) caused them to form their own African genetic cluster!

Chadic is a sub-division of Afro-Asiatic languages, Chadic languages are almost all Afro-Asiatic. Hausa is a Chadic Afro-Asiatic language for example. Also the Songhai do resemble Nilotic people as do the Kanuri who are also of the Nilo-Saharan group as well.

CAMEROONPRIDE: ah ah beer parlour debate. I heard u . lmao Yoruba(some think they come from Saudi arabi) igbos think they are jews etc so this is irrelevant , irrelevant groups and non achievers tend to create a fake history to feel good about themselves etc tec et puis voila. Tutsi are Bantu. Tutsi and Hutu are social status .

Nigerians dont look congolese

we are much more similar in looks with ivorians and ghanaians

onila:

efik-the prettier version of the bantu

the Bleep does this mean?
Bantu women are definitively the most beautiful in Africa. from from Cameroon, Gabon to south Africa. okay let's not go there
u are a Bantu b proud of your forefathers

CAMEROONPRIDE: how do Ivoirian look like?

nice oval faces and not round

ivorians look like black americans just like the igbo

but the bantu have a unique look, an african unique look

their heads are round n curvy

Fulaman198:

Pidgin is a language that is a Germanic language, it is derived from English (it is a dialect of English), however there is no such thing as a Pidgin ethnic group because Pidgin is spoken by most people in Anglophone West Africa. Even Patois which is what Jamaicans speak is classified as a Germanic English language.

Talla I believe is how you say advertisement in Hausa (but it means Promotion like to promote a product).

so u agree me with that the origins of pidgin don't make the west Af pidgin speakers saxon or germans right?

Onila has turned Ayanle on us. That said my Cameroonian friend she is right. Igbos just resemble other West Africans physically. They are not Bantus.

Onila, Tutsi are not Somali, Any Tutsi that says they came from Somalia may have inferiority complex.

onila:

nice oval faces and not round

ivorians look like black americans just like the igbo

but the bantu have a unique look, an african unique look

their heads are round n curvy

this is just ignorance. i'm not going to entertain u. I only hope u don't make such comments and display your gross ignorance in public .

CAMEROONPRIDE: the Bleep does this mean?
Bantu women are definitively the most beautiful in Africa. from from Cameroon, Gabon to south Africa. okay let's not go there
u are a Bantu b proud of your forefathers

when we r talking abt beautiful women in africa
I dont see them mention central African countries

most beautiful are in the east and west

Fulaman198: Onila has turned Ayanle on us. That said my Cameroonian friend she is right. Igbos just resemble other West Africans physically. They are not Bantus.

Onila, Tutsi are not Somali, Any Tutsi that says they came from Somalia may have inferiority complex.

Eastern Nigeria are Bantu. my friend go check the cultural similarities. take as a case of study : bamileke or sawa vs Igbos or effik . uwill think u are seeing the same people

CAMEROONPRIDE: so u agree me with that the origins of pidgin don't make the west Af pidgin speakers saxon or germans right?

This is a different philosophy though. I understand where you are coming from though.

What you are saying is that just because someone is of a particular ethnic group does not make them officially part of that ethnic group. You are saying that it is possible a Bantu became assimilated into Igboid culture or w/e right?

The same way the Tukulors of Senegal/Mauritania became "Fulbenized" (Fulani influenced and only can identify with Fulani today but they are not ethnically Fulani).