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| Why Do Nigerians Avoid Diesel Cars When Buying A Vehicle? by shootsight(m): 8:58am On Sep 21, 2013 |
Good morning nairalanders ... I have noticed most people in Nigeria shy away from diesel engined automobiles when making a purchase decision.One prime complaint u'll hear is that diesel engines αяє '' problematic'' , ''oga diesel engine dey spoil quick quick and Ɛ no dey last''. Infact I had a first hand experience at a filling station @ gbagada estate. A man pulls over with an Audi Q7 for gas/diesel and the lady while filling up queries him why he would buy the diesel version of such a luxurious automobile. As if that's not enough she chips in an ''advice'' that he should trade it for a petrol version if he wants †̥σ enjoy Τђε ride. I was surprised †̥σ say the least because I know diesel engines †̥σ b easy on gas consumption , and αяє even naturally more torquey than their petrol counterparts. Or perhaps its ∂ assumption diesel engines αяє noisy? Which has almost been eliminated in newer car versions. So Let's have ur opinion ! 5 Likes |
| Re: Why Do Nigerians Avoid Diesel Cars When Buying A Vehicle? by redcliff: 9:23am On Sep 21, 2013 |
Once Nigerians sterotype an item, its only a mircale that can make it step out of that circle.. 47 Likes 1 Share |
| Re: Why Do Nigerians Avoid Diesel Cars When Buying A Vehicle? by Osama10(m): 9:26am On Sep 21, 2013 |
Also with diesel pump price at 170 per litre people are scared. 10 Likes 1 Share |
| Re: Why Do Nigerians Avoid Diesel Cars When Buying A Vehicle? by shootsight(m): 9:28am On Sep 21, 2013 |
redcliff: Once Nigerians sterotype an item, its only a mircale that can make it step out of that circle..just Τђε way Nigerians tend †̥σ believe that a Toyota is Τђε best thing on wheels .. Lol 21 Likes |
| Re: Why Do Nigerians Avoid Diesel Cars When Buying A Vehicle? by Ikenna351(m): 9:31am On Sep 21, 2013 |
Simple, because Americans don't drive diesels. The moment they start, Petrol cars will become "problematic" in Nigeria, to Nigerians. Ikenna. 32 Likes |
| Re: Why Do Nigerians Avoid Diesel Cars When Buying A Vehicle? by shootsight(m): 9:42am On Sep 21, 2013 |
Ikenna351: Simple, because Americans don't drive diesels. The moment they start, Petrol cars will become "problematic" in Nigeria, to Nigerians.oga ikenna the big question is ''would u buy and drive a diesel engined pug'' ? Because I know u own a petrol version. 1 Like |
| Re: Why Do Nigerians Avoid Diesel Cars When Buying A Vehicle? by shootsight(m): 9:45am On Sep 21, 2013 |
Osama10: Also with diesel pump price at 170 per litre people are scared.diesel vehicles post better mileage.. Mpg ... surely Τђε diFference wouldn't be that much ?. 2 Likes 1 Share |
| Re: Why Do Nigerians Avoid Diesel Cars When Buying A Vehicle? by Ikenna351(m): 10:12am On Sep 21, 2013 |
shoot@sight: Check all my Lions, including the one i have sold (605 V6). I go for power. Peugeot 407 has a 3.0 Diesel V6, with maximum of about 240 hp. I was discussing privately with Siena before i got my SV D9 while in the hunt. He suggested i go for a diesel this time. I told him if only 406 got the diesel v6 407 got, i would consider the 406 V6 diesel without a blink. Irrespective of the impressive mpg diesels offer, i won't compromise power for it. Unfortunately, 406 looks is more appealing to me than the 407. Hence, i settled for the petrol 406 v6, which the mpg is not bad after all. How many petrol v6 can give 40 mpg like my SV D9 average on high-speed ? The next Peugeot am eyeing is 508. The top of version of it , GT , is very tempting. It's an I4, a 2.2 turbodiesel that has maximum of 204 hp. Unfortunately, for now, it has no manual tranny version, all are 6-speed auto tranny. Will wait and see what the future says. So, my concern is not the fuel type, but power with reasonable fuel economy. Ikenna. 9 Likes |
| Re: Why Do Nigerians Avoid Diesel Cars When Buying A Vehicle? by imsparkling(f): 6:10pm On Sep 21, 2013 |
They r so used 2 fuel cars |
| Re: Why Do Nigerians Avoid Diesel Cars When Buying A Vehicle? by 50calibre(m): 6:12pm On Sep 21, 2013 |
Because I think in Nigeria, diesel is much more expensive than petrol Petrol cars are on average faster than diesel cars Once Diesel engines begin to give problems, they are really hard to fix Once diesel finishes in a diesel car, you have to flush the whole system before it functions properly again Diesel can be hard to find at times, unlike petrol that's ubiquitous. 7 Likes |
| Re: Why Do Nigerians Avoid Diesel Cars When Buying A Vehicle? by OkikiOluwa1(m): 6:13pm On Sep 21, 2013 |
With a Talakanaire's (opposite of millionaire) mindset, most Nigerians ll tell you that diesel is N170/litre, petrol is N97. More so, diesel engine dey spoil quickly. Last Bullet: Nigerians are economical people. Petrol is cheaper to diesel in Nija. So therefore the owner of a car using petrol ll spend less on fuel. 1 Like |
| Re: Why Do Nigerians Avoid Diesel Cars When Buying A Vehicle? by Cubeet: 6:13pm On Sep 21, 2013 |
Due to the condition of country |
| Re: Why Do Nigerians Avoid Diesel Cars When Buying A Vehicle? by groovie(m): 6:13pm On Sep 21, 2013 |
hey guys, how about servicing such diesel engines, is it economical? 1 Like 1 Share |
| Re: Why Do Nigerians Avoid Diesel Cars When Buying A Vehicle? by Sniper4real(m): 6:14pm On Sep 21, 2013 |
e be lyk say u get money to buy diesel |
| Re: Why Do Nigerians Avoid Diesel Cars When Buying A Vehicle? by Emmzalon: 6:20pm On Sep 21, 2013 |
because na our money and we fit buy anytin we lyk wid am |
| Re: Why Do Nigerians Avoid Diesel Cars When Buying A Vehicle? by DisGuy: 6:22pm On Sep 21, 2013 |
shoot@sight: havent you heard? Nigerians are experts on everything!!! I think most car users are city drivers and our dear mechanics  4 Likes |
| Re: Why Do Nigerians Avoid Diesel Cars When Buying A Vehicle? by uboma(m): 6:23pm On Sep 21, 2013 |
50calibre: Because I think in Nigeria, diesel is much more expensive than petrol How did you arrive at the above deductions? You are wrong mate. The reverse is the case 1 Like |
| Re: Why Do Nigerians Avoid Diesel Cars When Buying A Vehicle? by Nobody: 6:23pm On Sep 21, 2013 |
I never buy car yet 1 Like |
| Re: Why Do Nigerians Avoid Diesel Cars When Buying A Vehicle? by Stegomiah: 6:28pm On Sep 21, 2013 |
Obviously, its because of the cost, the sound diesel vehicles make and the fumes/smokes from exhaust pipes |
| Re: Why Do Nigerians Avoid Diesel Cars When Buying A Vehicle? by Nobody: 6:32pm On Sep 21, 2013 |
Reasons Nigerians don't buy diesel cars- (1) Stereotype- they just believe cars using petrol are better (2) Price of diesel- rather than considering mileage,most Nigerians look at the price per liter. Diesel burns slower so in effect gives better mileage. (3) Quality of diesel - to the well informed, they desist from diesel because of the poor quality of diesel on sale in most filling stations. Most filling stations mix DPK (kerosene) with AGO(diesel) to sell to end users. Kerosene is cheaper, the profit from mixing the two to be sold at the price of the later encourages this nefarious activitiees by the stations. 13 Likes |
| Re: Why Do Nigerians Avoid Diesel Cars When Buying A Vehicle? by Denn(m): 6:37pm On Sep 21, 2013 |
the quality of diesel in nigeria is always questionable...even at fuel stations. secondly, how many auto mechs can properly maintain a diesel engine in nigeria? the cost of a car is minimal compared to its cost of maintenance...... 1 Like |
| Re: Why Do Nigerians Avoid Diesel Cars When Buying A Vehicle? by ygenius: 6:38pm On Sep 21, 2013 |
For me i prefer water cos both are fumious,yea,i cant imagine inhaling carbön,in my loquacious body in ma banana island.,i am tired of walking on land mhen |
| Re: Why Do Nigerians Avoid Diesel Cars When Buying A Vehicle? by shejane: 6:39pm On Sep 21, 2013 |
Dot kw much abt diesel cars thou bt I love my fuel car Mayb if I try diesel car is possible I wil lyk it Bt 4 now fuel car all d way nd toyota is d best |
| Re: Why Do Nigerians Avoid Diesel Cars When Buying A Vehicle? by spikesC(m): 6:41pm On Sep 21, 2013 |
Stegomiah: Obviously, its because of the cost, the sound diesel vehicles make and the fumes/smokes from exhaust pipes You know cars uhh  |
| Re: Why Do Nigerians Avoid Diesel Cars When Buying A Vehicle? by Nobody: 6:44pm On Sep 21, 2013 |
50calibre: Because I think in Nigeria, diesel is much more expensive than petrol Such falacies are what makes most Nigerians never touch a diesel powered vehicles with a 10 metre pole. 3 Likes 1 Share |
| Re: Why Do Nigerians Avoid Diesel Cars When Buying A Vehicle? by bobokelly(m): 6:46pm On Sep 21, 2013 |
Diesel engine?, i will never try that expenssive in maintanance. |
| Re: Why Do Nigerians Avoid Diesel Cars When Buying A Vehicle? by babywhale(m): 6:46pm On Sep 21, 2013 |
Desiel engines do not accelerate as fast as their petrol counterparts. The road side mechanics don't have what it takes to fix it. Most Nigerians are not informed. The list is endless. 1 Like |
| Re: Why Do Nigerians Avoid Diesel Cars When Buying A Vehicle? by miqos02(m): 6:47pm On Sep 21, 2013 |
how many auto dealers sell diesel vehicles? |
| Re: Why Do Nigerians Avoid Diesel Cars When Buying A Vehicle? by imsuboi(m): 6:49pm On Sep 21, 2013 |
. redcliff: Once Nigerians sterotype an item, its only a mircale that can make it step out of that circle.. GBAM! 1 Like |
| Re: Why Do Nigerians Avoid Diesel Cars When Buying A Vehicle? by Nobody: 6:49pm On Sep 21, 2013 |
Ikenna, I agree there are more choices with petrol engines, over diesel-engined cars of the same model. But one thing's for sure - lack of power in a diesel engine isn't one of them. Let's put this into perspective here, with an example. Audi S8 D2. Engine: 4,172cc V8 2xDOHC 40V. Fuel: Gasoline. Power: 360 hp. Torque: 430 Nm. 0-60 mph (Tiptronic): 6,6 secs. Maximum speed: 155 mph. Audi A8 D3. Engine: 4,172cc V8 2xDOHC 40V. Fuel: Gasoline. Power: 340 hp. Torque: 430 Nm. 0-60 mph (Tiptronic): 6,3 secs. Maximum speed: 155 mph. Audi A8 D3. Engine: 4,172cc V8 2xDOHC 32V FSI. Fuel: Petrol. Power: 350 hp. Torque: 440 Nm. 0-60 mph (Tiptronic): 6,1 secs. Maximum speed: 155 mph. Audi A8 D3. Engine: 4,134cc V8 2xDOHC 32V. Fuel: Diesel. Power: 326 hp. Torque: 650 Nm. 0-60 mph (Tiptronic): 5.7 secs. Maximum speed: 155 mph. Peugeot 407 EW12-J4. Engine: 2,230cc I4 DOHC 16V. Fuel: Gasoline. Power: 161 hp. Torque: 220 Nm. 0-60 mph (manual): 10.1 secs. Maximum speed: 137 mph. Peugeot 407 DW12-BTED4. Engine: 2,230cc I4 DOHC 16V. Fuel: Diesel. Power: 168 hp. Torque: 370 Nm. 0-60 mph (manual): 8.6 secs. Maximum speed: 140 mph. Peugeot 407 ES9-A. Engine: 2,496cc V6 2xDOHC 24V. Fuel: Gasoline. Power: 210 hp. Torque: 290 Nm. 0-60 mph (automatic): 8.6 secs. Maximum speed: 146 mph. Peugeot 407 DT20-C. Engine: 2,993cc V6 2xDOHC 24V. Fuel: Diesel. Power: 240 hp. Torque: 450 Nm. 0-60 mph (manual): 7.9 secs. Maximum speed: 152 mph. The Peugeot 2.2 Common-Rail diesel is an excellent engine. I haven't driven a Peuget with this engine configuration, but I've certainly driven the 2012 Ford Galaxy and Ford Mondeo, which uses the PSA 2.2 HDi, and it's no slouch. Looking at the Peugeot 407 2,2 and 2,2 HDI engines, the HDI is much more impressive than its petrol-engined counterpart. Bear in mind, a diesel engine has a limited rev range, typically red-lined at 4,600 rpm, compared to a typical petrol engine, which is redlined at approximately 6,500 rpm. So for the diesel-engined car to have a decent top end, the gears (both 5/6th and the final drive) are much taller than that of a petrol-engined variant in the same body. It makes it almost impossible to believe the diesel will still pull strongly against the petrol car. I remember when I had my old Audi RS2-spec Audi Coupe Quattro. This had Audi's 2,226cc I5 DOHC 20V turbo, making 230 hp in stock form. Mine was a heavily reworked motor, using the Audi 2,5 I5 TDI bottom end to achieve 2,461cc, a massive KKK-27 turbo, 3-bar MAP sensor, green injectors (as in the Audi RS2) and a custom ECU remap. The result? 426 hp, and 560 Nm. And achieved a 0-60 time of 4.4 secs. On an undisclosed road, a BMW E60 loomed in my rearview mirror. From the front, it looked like an M5. I planted my right foot firmly against the floorboards, thinking I'd smoke the M5, as I had in the past. Not this time - the E60 got closer, and closer, and closer. Soon it was filling my rearview mirror. The suddenly, it wasn't there! It was overtaking me. I gave my car all she had, but it asn't enough. The BMW E60 swept past like I was driving a Toyota Corolla 1.6. And then I saw the badge - 535D! I'd been smoked by an oil-burner the size of a garden shed! I dropped into 5th, and gunned my engine, changed up to 6th, but it was no use. The BMW 535D got smaller, till it was out of sight. There were no exits to the road, so the BMW didn't turn off, it simply got too small to be seen from where I was. It was that day I gained respect for diesel engines. Diesel engines run cooler than petrol ones, so last longer. The exhaust will last longer too, due to the oily nature of diesel fuel. It costs more than petrol, even here in the UK, but is still cheaper to run than a petrol-engined car of the same capacity and model. Diesel-engined cars, minivans and light trucks are the choice of fleet users, due to one thing - lower running costs. Nigerians are generally fixated on the present, the short-term. They see the higher cost of diesel over petrol, and don't bother working out cost over as low as 2 months. If they can't save money in one day, they're not interested. The same way the average Nigerian wants to start a business, but wants to make over 100% profit from the get go. Diesel engines need mechanics / technicians that are well versed in how they work, and that to me should be the only drawback. Noise used to be an issue, but these days, it's difficult to tell you're a passenger in a modern diesel-engined car, the sound is that muted, more a deep "thrum", almost remote to the interior, as opposed to the rattle of older models. They're quieter from the outside too. To sum it up, diesel engines have evolved and advanced more in the last 15 years, than the gasoline engine has in the last 50. 17 Likes 3 Shares |
| Re: Why Do Nigerians Avoid Diesel Cars When Buying A Vehicle? by Nobody: 6:51pm On Sep 21, 2013 |
babywhale: Desiel engines do not accelerate as fast as their petrol counterparts. Read my write-up, do some independent research, and come back to edit your comment, or write another one. 3 Likes |
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