jackbauerspower: I worship at the Church of Materialism, and pray at the Altar of Money.

And So do 98% of the Nigerian Populace.


And our God has blessed us bountifully.

Amen

plaetton:

You are very correct, albeit, in an ironic way.

Religion failed humanity long long time before it even reached our shores.
When the Europeans brought it to us, they already knew that they bringing toxic dump to our shores, much like depleted uranium: Whoever comes into contact with it must suffer.

It is the stu.pidity of our people that makes them look upon religion to deliver in Nigeria, what it was incapble of delivering in Europe for more than 1500 yrs of its dominance in European history.

kolapo001:


The muslim population figure given in your report about Nigeria is false because I am a Nigerian,I live and work in Nigeria.You need to compare the number of churches in Nigeria to the number of mosques all across Nigeria, despite the persecution the church is being faced in the Northern and other parts of Nigeria.There is no city or village in Nigeria where you don’t find a church with massive number of worshippers,no matter how islamized the city or village is.On the other hand,there are some towns and villages in the South South and South Eastern parts of Nigeria where you won’t find a mosque.Nigeria has the world’s biggest church auditorium called Faith Terbernacle,Ota with over 80,000 worshippers gathering every Sunday to worship the only Living God.You need to check every church on worship days and see what is happening there.Many muslims are being converted on a daily basis especially when they need succor from the heat of life,they run to Jesus.Hardly will you see a christian in Nigeria being converted to a muslim if he/she knows what he/she is doing.The true gospel of peace is being preached by christianity and Nigerians are coming to this reality by every passing day.Therefore, the report about Nigerian muslim population is false.

Orikinla:
It is beyond your Average Joe's IQ.

jamace: OP, it is Nigerians who have failed religion. Nigerians have really disappointed religion. No religion teaches adherents to do evil. ALL Religions demand the highest level of virtues and uprightness from followers.

NIGERIANS HAVE FAILED RELIGION!

Logicboy03:

Nonsense

So are u telling me that americans have passed religion? Common sense will tell you that it is religion that has failed. A holy book won't tell you how to build a road or to set up am educational system.

Who told you that all religions demand the highest form of virtues? Do terrorists not quote their holy books? The crusaders weren't killing fo christ?

jamace:

Why are you reasoning upside down? How can a holy book tell you how to build a road or set up an educational system, my friend? When religion says we should respect those in authority, what do yuo think are the functions of those in authority? To loot the treasury?

I know you are LOGICBOY , but not everything that is logical is true. There is logical fallacy.

jackbauerspower:

Says the User whose Moniker is the name of an Egyptian God.

Oh Lord My God.....The Irony!!!

These 'wise' Nigerians will not kill me...

italo: I'm still looking for the religion that says "loot the treasury," "care not for your neighbour," etc.

If after 53 years, people are still deliberately mis-diagnosing our ailment like the OP just to further their Atheist agenda...it is obvious that it is liars pretenders like these (both religious and non-religious) that have failed us for 53years.

mazaje: Religion has NEVER helped any country to develop , so why will it ever help Nigeria?. . .

mazaje:

I know religions practiced in my country that say things like, " Allah dislikes the unbelievers" . . ."Those that do not believe in Jesus are condemned already" or "do not be yolked with unbelievers because what has light got to do with darkness". . .The adherents of such religions see those that do not believe in their religions as the others who lost and treat them either as enemies of their god or people that are in the dark and are condemned already as their scripture says. . .This my friend is part of the contributions of religion to our society. . .

italo:

You are talking of segregation. I also know people that are Atheists in my country that say things like "believers are retards," "believers are the problem of the world," etc. Atheists like these treat those that do not disbelieve in God like them as lesser human beings who are mentally caged.

This, my friend, is part of the contributions of Atheism to our society...which shows that segregation is not a 'religious' problem.

mazaje:

And how many times have atheist created blood shed in your country?. . .The soldiers of Yahweh and Allah have killed uncountable people in many of the endless religious crisis that have plagued your country. . .How many atheist have ever denied you employment or admission into any university because of your religious belief. . .Many christians are denied employment into various institutions and admission into various universities because they are not muslims and vice versa. . .How has christianity and islam helped your country and developed it besides the endless wars and discrimination that it is causing in the country. . .

Logicboy03: Nigeria is one of the worlds most religious countries. Nigeria has the highest rate of church attendance (89%) and also home to about 70 million muslims. Nigeria is also almost evenly divided between christianity and islam among its population.

With all this religiosity, has it benefited Nigeria?







Pros for religion
-Catholic church and some other churches built schools for their communities
-Muslim and Christian organisations give a lot of charity
-Pilgrimage opportunities to travel abroad (Jerusalem/Vatican for christians and Mecca for muslims)
-Magnificent church and mosque buildings


Cons
-Religious division, terrorism and conflict- example boko haram
-brainwashing of gullible masses of people- eg people donating salaries and houses to religious leaders while being broke
-child abuse eg child-witch killing, child beating, child molestation
-erosion of culture eg A Yoruba man bearing "Hamed Rahman" or "James Moses"
-wasting of resources eg Pastors buying private jets, building churches instead of libraries, govt sponsoring expensive muslim pigrimage with tax payers' money




What do you think?

italo:

If you only see the bad things that religious people do...but you see neither the bad things that non-religious people do nor the good things that religion and its adherents do, clearly, dishonest and fanatical people like you are the problem of the human race.

italo:

You are talking of segregation. I also know people that are Atheists in my country that say things like "believers are retards," "believers are the problem of the world," etc. Atheists like these treat those that do not disbelieve in God like them as lesser human beings who are mentally caged.

This, my friend, is part of the contributions of Atheism to our society...which shows that segregation is not a 'religious' problem.

mazaje:

And how many times have atheist created blood shed in your country?. . .The soldiers of Yahweh and Allah have killed uncountable people in many of the endless religious crisis that have plagued your country. . .How many atheist have ever denied you employment or admission into any university because of your religious belief. . .Many christians are denied employment into various institutions and admission into various universities because they are not muslims and vice versa. . .How has christianity and islam helped your country and developed it besides the endless wars and discrimination that it is causing in the country. . .

Logicboy03:



You were totally derstroyed by majaze. And now you are attacking him to cover up your nonsense. Why would you claim that Majaze is dishonest and fanatical? You were the one ranting nonsense like a mad man- when you were claiming that atheists are the part of the problem in Nigeria. You have no atheist friends. Atheists are less than 1% of the population.


See your nonsense






then you got creamed by Majaze ;

italo:

Mr Referee, grow up.

Anyone who pretends not to see a single good thing done by religion or its adherents is dishonest. If the person does so because he doesnt like religion, he is fanatical.

What reasonable discussion can you have with such a person?

NativeBoy: Too easy to blame religion. There is a deep lingering thought that needs to be considered: why is it that every black society, no matter where in the world, is essentially in abject poverty. Is that the fault of religion or there are other deeply rooted issues that need to be considered? I’ve know successful Nigerians; some were religious and others were not. The problem with us, blacks in general, not just Nigerians, is that most of us don’t have a certain direction of our lives, and the ones that do have that direction don’t know how to go about making it a reality. Is this the fault of religion?

Lastly, what has been most detrimental to us as blacks is our inability to unite. Until recently, it is not religion that divides us, rather we draw up the most idiotic lines: bloods vs crips, light-skinned vs dark-skinned, the more educated vs the less educated, who is more like the white man vs who isn’t etc… Not that divisions like this don’t exist among other races, they do. But for us who need to rebuild our land, they are a chain around our necks. A house divided against itself cannot stand.

As a Christian, I will say that IF Christianity has failed Nigeria, it is that it has not been able to remove the deep fear and distrust that we seem to have towards each other and to wake people up out of their apathy and know that God has given them the faculties they need to be able to change their situation. I suspect that this is some of the frustrations some atheists here on Nairaland have.
The full has not been spoken about this issue but I submit this post for your consideration.
Stay seeking. Stay thinking. Believe.

ifeness: At 53 years of age, what more can be done to help? I wonder. The positive side is the fact that people are beginning to ask question about the role and purposes of religion. Most of us who are lucky to have escaped the iron bars of religion know that we are living in a country filled with religious zombies. Why celebrate independence? We are not independent are we?

Logicboy03:


where did he say that religion has made no positive contribution? did you see the pros in the op?

mazaje:

And how many times have atheist created blood shed in your country?. . .The soldiers of Yahweh and Allah have killed uncountable people in many of the endless religious crisis that have plagued your country. . .How many atheist have ever denied you employment or admission into any university because of your religious belief. . .Many christians are denied employment into various institutions and admission into various universities because they are not muslims and vice versa. . .How has christianity and islam helped your country and developed it besides the endless wars and discrimination that it is causing in the country. . .

italo:

Is Mazaje the OP?



Now tell me, is the bold not a senseless question that can only come from a dishonest fanatic?

Strongfaze: I'm against neo-colonialism which is the worst form of oppression. What about those countries in Europe that are highly religious and are far developed than African countries? For me it is the people and not the religions.

Logicboy03:



Which European countries are yu talking about?