HUGE_S: Seriously? I mean did Aliyu, Lamido, Kwakwaso et al really agreed to make d 5th point official. Did they Knw Amechi played a fast one on them wit that point. Cos the simple interpretation of point 5 to me is RESOURCE CONTROL. Amechi which 'jass' u use for them, cos I see Nigerians holding the 'northern boyz' by dis press release in d near future wen they begin to say dey did not mean resource control by point 5

•We demand a re-ordering of the inchoate federal structure we are running with a view to allowing the states and the other federating units more access to resources to attend to the numerous responsibilities placed on them.

ITbomb: Wait o
People that have been in PDP since 1999 now telling the same PDP what to do
I laugh in esparanto
However these demands are much better than 'President should order EFCC to stop investigating us'

PDP crisis: Jonathan will only accept reasonable terms –Presidency

SEPTEMBER 7
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“I read about one of the conditions reportedly being given by the governors that the President should stop the EFCC from investigating them. How can the President stop the EFCC from doing its job? That is ridiculous, it is unheard of. The EFCC is independent, the President cannot do that.

“What has peace moves got to do with EFCC? Agencies of government cannot be stopped from doing their work. Stopping EFCC means that the President can also stop the army, police, navy and others from doing their works. If that happens, what will people say?

I’m not afraid of EFCC, says Gov Lamido

September 13
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“We will not allow people that have no political base in their homes to scare us from this struggle. The second phase of the PDP struggle, will be a tough one. And it is a struggle to confront the challenges of Nigeria, and not that of the North.
“We are not afraid of EFCC. We will insist the right thing is done. No amount of intimidation by EFCC will scare us from abandoning our struggle of ensuring an ideal and just party.

“I am not afraid of incarceration. The highest that can happen is that after 2015, they will send me to prison, that place (prison) is my home. I think I am used to it,”

theoctopus:


Fowl! We need resource control, simple! Anything else is story! Maintain your boundry! I think these fake PDP and APC people will eventually box themselves to a corner. Imagine a corrupt man asking for a draconian anti corruption move. Who will be swept first?

HUGE_S: Seriously? I mean did Aliyu, Lamido, Kwakwaso et al really agreed to make d 5th point official. Did they Knw Amechi played a fast one on them wit that point. Cos the simple interpretation of point 5 to me is RESOURCE CONTROL. Amechi which 'jass' u use for them, cos I see Nigerians holding the 'northern boyz' by dis press release in d near future wen they begin to say dey did not mean resource control by point 5.

Gbawe:

Thank you. This is a big problem for Nigeria currently. I.e too many Nigerians are vested in politics of clannish enmity against one thing/group or the other to ever see what matters. How on earth can the clamour for resource control now blind us to the argument that the Government at the centre is failing horribly to give value for the 52.7% of all allocations it currently receives to administer Nigeria?

Threads like this, whether we want to admit it or not, demonstrate that Nigeria lack citizens who are solution providers and critical thinkers. I mean no disrespect to anyone saying that. I just want some of us to introspect more. Insincere9gerian parrot the usual rhetoric about 'resource control' and many regurgitate it without inspecting what is terribly obvious. I.e the fact that agitating for resource control does not prevent us demanding that corruption is tackled. Wanting resource control does then not mean we excuse the fact that Nigeria is failing at refining her crude endowment and that security is abysmal in a Nation where the President justifies allocating N18 billion for the maintenance of his ten-plane Presidential airfleet while N11 billion is the sum allocated for equipping our entire police force.

Those who know Insincer9gerian well enough will understand he threw the resource control 'banana' into the arena to truncate any inspection of the failings of GEJ in relation to how the suggestion of nPDP, some of them being very good ones analysts worldwide have recommended, actually expose what Jonathan is not doing in the face of so much being wrong with Nigeria.

Resource control does not prevent you reforming a clearly moribund and worthless NNPC. It does not stop a declaration of a State of emergency to tackle the abysmal federal infrastructure of Nigeria and our/or problems that are the domain responsibility of the FG. Government should still be pursuing the aggressive growth of the SME sector, the 'lifeblood' of economies worldwide, and no talk of resource control should detract from that.

Assuming we have resource control as the deceitful Insincere9gerian bamboozles some posters with, is it the States that will then renovate and our federal roads deemed some of the worst and least motorable in the World currently?

Does everything now start and end in States or is it now wrong, because some attempt to decieve others via shouting "resource control", to demand that the FG is up and doing in relation to its duties and responsibilities? How is the need for the FG to be far more diligent and effective than it currently is tied to resource control alone? In contrast, and for those who can relate problems to solutions, it is obvious some of the recommendations of the nPDP actually provide workable solutions to identified problems even if some want to muddy the water with impertinent talk based on whipping up feudal sentiments in Nigerians that detract from the monumental failure of the FG.

Even with the resource control argument, the 8 recommendation covered it with the innate feudalism of many making them to miss it. To expose the deceit Insincere9gerian and other feudalists are trying to pull off, so that an intelligent inspection of the recommendations of the nPDP is impossible, the forum oblige and tell me what the suggestion below is demanding when it wants States to gain greater control of their resources ? It is the same method Insincere9gerian and his clan used to discredit Ribadu right here on this forum so we would not inspect the recommendations of his petroleum task force to demand with one voice, as a focused people, that GEJ implement those recommendations.

eGuerrilla:

•We demand the empanelling of a credible, independent and resolute anti-corruption body to cleanse the country of the thick stench of corruption that has overwhelmed it at present.

Source: News Express

I thought one of their conditions for peace in their PDP umbllela was for the government not to ask EFCC investigate the rebel governors for corruption
Obviously it is time to play to the gallery with EMPTY words that the gullible MUMUS in our country will unwittingly applaud!

Sincere 9gerian: @Gbawe..,Your post is filled with plenty grammar but with no substance.

At the root of most of the problems facing Nigeria is structural deficiency. From corruption, infrastructural decay, lack of patriotism, do-or-die politics,etc is a terribly flawed structure.

For instance, the national budget (federal budget) is about N5 trillion. Out of this ASUU asking for N3 trillion, the doctors are asking for hundreds of billions, the road sector (federal roads) needs almost N1 trillion to be substantially motorable, we need over railways

A structure that pretend that Abuja can cater for 167 million people is flawed. Abuja cannot and can NEVER feed 167 million people, even if the govt is headed by Obama or an angel.

The present arrangement where 167 million people live on Abuja can only breed poverty, laziness, dependency, terrorism, corruption, mediocrity, lack of creativity, unemployment, more under-development, etc.

Until the present arrangement is reversed, ie Abuja lives on the productivity/wealth/creativity/hardwork of 167 million people (RESOURCE CONTROL), then we've not even started.

The logic of RESOURCE CONTROL is simple. If Abuja tries to feed 167 million people, the food can NEVER be enough; but if 167 people cooks for Abuja, the food will be SURPLUS. That is the logic of RESOURCE CONTROL.

RESOURCE CONTROL will mean that Rivers State govt will harness the human and material resources in the state and bring something to the table at the centre (pay taxes). The Borno and Yobe State govt MUST look inwards, build wealth from its human and material resources and pay bring something to the table at Abuja. Ditto for other states and local govt of the federation.

It means that era when Borno, Yobe, Ogun, Enugu,etc state govts and local govts come to Abuja begging for food for their respective constituencies are OVER.

RESOURCE CONTROL does not solve ALL our problems but without it, we haven't even started

Gbawe:

Assuming we have resource control as the deceitful Insincere9gerian bamboozles some posters with, is it the States that will then renovate and our federal roads deemed some of the worst and least motorable in the World currently?

Does everything now start and end in States or is it now wrong, because some attempt to decieve others via shouting "resource control", to demand that the FG is up and doing in relation to its duties and responsibilities? How is the need for the FG to be far more diligent and effective than it currently is tied to resource control alone? In contrast, and for those who can relate problems to solutions, it is obvious some of the recommendations of the nPDP actually provide workable solutions to identified problems even if some want to muddy the water with impertinent talk based on whipping up feudal sentiments in Nigerians that detract from the monumental failure of the FG.

Gbawe: Even with the resource control argument, the 8 recommendation covered it with the innate feudalism of many making them to miss it. To expose the deceit Insincere9gerian and other feudalists are trying to pull off, so that an intelligent inspection of the recommendations of the nPDP is impossible, the forum oblige and tell me what the suggestion below is demanding when it wants States to gain greater control of their resources ? It is the same method Insincere9gerian and his clan used to discredit Ribadu right here on this forum so we would not inspect the recommendations of his petroleum task force to demand with one voice, as a focused people, that GEJ implement those recommendations.

•We demand a re-ordering of the inchoate federal structure we are running with a view to allowing the states and the other federating units more access to resources to attend to the numerous responsibilities placed on them.

Sincere 9gerian:
That is not my understanding of point 5. Point 5 states "... with a view to allowing the states and the other federating units MORE access to resources"

Point 5 is simply asking for MORE funds for the state and local govt. That is different from RESOURCE CONTROL.

PointB: Still on the issue of resource control, I like the idea of the 13% derivative principle. However, when Resource Control become the practice, may I propose that the state keep 87% percent of what they produce and give the central government 13%.


That's a fair deal.

•We demand a re-ordering of the inchoate federal structure we are running with a view to allowing the states and the other federating units more access to resources to attend to the numerous responsibilities placed on them.

PointB: We the good people of Nairaland duly support the new PDP 8 point agenda.

We urge the President to hasten the implementation of these beautiful ideas starting with point #5:


by implementing full resource control such that the state get 87% of their resources to enable "attend to the numerous responsibilities placed on them" while the central government get 13%. Who said the new PDP are entirely bad or selfish. Good things do sometimes come from bad people.

#ResourceControlNow

anonimi:

I respectfully request that you permit me to make a slight but very important amendment to your meaningful proposal:

by implementing full resource control such that the state KEEPS 87% of their resources to enable "attend to the numerous responsibilities placed on them" while the central government RECEIVES 13% FROM THE STATE (or whatever federating units result from the restructuring of the geographical entity called Nigeria)

I hope you will agree with me that the new wording represents better the whole idea and avoids any ambiguity that may be used by LAZY BONES who want to continue the current federal alamjiri monthly fiesta in Abuja.

Gbawe:

You are talking garbage. Do you know how many Nations of the world, with similar structure to Nigeria, have good central administration that makes things work effectively? Aside your poor grasp of the relation and synergy between adequate leadership effort and development, you are also a very dishonest person.

What, for example, does "resource control" have to do with how an irresponsible leadership class deliberately perverted administrative processes over time till a stupendous 70% of the budgeted spending of Nigeria is now used on recurrent expenses whereas same is in single digit in many developed nation i.e under 10%. You wish to overlook how Nigeria has horribly and self-destructively skewed this basic developmental ratio to be talking of "resource control"? Is this not a display of your patent dishonesty and legendary insincerity ?



Do you know the massive developmental benefits that can be derived from GEJ even choosing this one area to bravely and holistically reform? Have you always lived on Mars not to have noted that many development analyst have warned that Nigeria can never develop without a system that curtails waste and bloated governance drastically? What has cutting waste, to make far more available for capital spendings, got to do with resource control? You can fool simpletons with your unintelligent drivel but smart folks here know that aggressive cost-cutting , as an agenda of reform many nations embrace, could actually overhaul our road/transport infrastructure completely. Instantly, the benevolent effect of that will be felt and ploughed back positively into the overall socio-economic development of Nigeria !!!!

You have been shown consistently that the totally unnecessary N18 billion used to maintain the Presidential air-fleet yearly can provide adequate accommodation for a vast number of Nigerians yet you will never argue here for your messiah to cut such insensitively wasteful cost and many, many, many more like that throughout Governance that makes Nigeria one of the few Nation where the vast majority of the budget is used subsidising the lavish existent of a very small percentage of the population. Instead you prefer hollow drivel you know will appeal to a people now divided by feudal rigidity and regional/ethnic dichotomy to the extent many cannot see what is obvious which is that the system is horribly bleeding a vast amount of money that could actually supervise the adequate development of Nigeria !!!

Everywhere else in the World, the processes, cuts and reform compromised GEJ and those before him are failing to initiate are precisely what has made nations great not your apologists and 'carousel' suggestions!!! Citizens demand that those actions be carried out !!! They don't vote in leaders to then craft a new set of parameters after those leaders have unravelled as total failures who are big parts of the problem. Nigeria is literally bleeding money everywhere with all major institutions moribund and you are here attempting to deceive others with your unbelievably senseless BS.

As an example, it is obvious you will never support an honest look at the failure of GEJ in regards to his penchant for propping up inefficiency because you know he is a poster child of waste, profligacy and bloated Governance. You would rather tout the hollow panacea of "resource control" so that the deficiency of GEJ, along with his inability to reform Nigeria for the better, is ignored. The bottom line is that leadership sincerity and efficacy, at the centre, is needed far more than anything else right now. You just cannot admit that because this sharply brings the action and inaction of GEJ in focus to the extent even a little child will know he is failing.