prof.femi:

Hmm, sofri sofri o Your point is very well taken: lots of us lecturers are grossly unprofessional. I know exactly what you are talking about. However, I do believe (or hope?) they are in the minority.

ZackiGp: Mr femi, what are u feeling like? U think u are better than other lecturers? I wonder who or what is deceiving u. Greed, selfishness and shamelessness characterized ur writeup. I think u are confused.

Williamchuks: Bro, they are human, I understand. But need I say that some of them have no business teaching, in a civilised society. An instance might suffice. In my varsity, some lecturers find it difficult teaching the concept of Calculus. I ask, these lecturers are they unaware of the power of the internet? The should take a cue from their colleagues in sane society. At this point, I pledge my unalloyed support for Prof. Femi's views. Well, it boils down to attracting best minds in our varsities. It is about funds still. Who knows? Maybe these lecturers aren't performing well because they are not well remunerated. Who knows?

prof.femi:


Hope you won't mind if I decide not to debate you? I don't think we have the same conceptions of logic, evidence-based arguments, and politeness. Yes, I admit you have me totally floored. I have made my points. I will let others read yours and realize how terrible we are.

otokx: Shey you guys are happy that the prof.femi has suspended posting?

Inasmuch as we are angry, we should be a bit civilized in our use and choice of words.

oxford:

mr. Prof come back here.

I wont let u get away with ur cheap propaganda! U came here with ur crafted interview trying to hoodwink unsuspecting public in an attempt to garner public sympathy for a selfish course and now that i confront u head on, u are running away.

Go back and tell those that sent u here that the cat is out and we can see through u.

otokx: Shey you guys are happy that the prof.femi has suspended posting?

Inasmuch as we are angry, we should be a bit civilized in our use and choice of words.

prof.femi:
D. WHAT IS IN IT FOR STUDENTS?





Hmm. When I come across a student who says ASUU strike wasted his life, it tells me more about the student than it does about ASUU or the FG. Look, a university polishes and amplifies what you have inside you. If you have nothing (no initiative, no creativity, no industry), then ASUU strike is the least of your worries. Yorubas say “ta ba gun’yan ninu epo epa, eni to ba ma yo ma yo” (even if you pound yam in a groundnut shell, some people will find a way to get filled).

Please use this period as a personal test. Right now in my department, ASUU strike or no ASUU strike, we have undergraduates who report for work every day developing themselves. Some of these guys are doing the same things their peers abroad are doing. So, develop yourself. Learn something that can complement your formal education. Get involved in a business, and figure out how you class theories might be applied in it. Contribute to society. Volunteer in a nursery or primary school (if you do nothing else, please do this). Whatever you do, never wake up to watch movies and gist.

There is a martial art called aikido in which you use your opponent’s kinetic energy against him. Be an aikidoka. Use whatever comes your way, including ASUU strike, for your own progress.
Best of luck!

U235weapongrade: @oxford I tire for u sef..is it all lecturers dat sell handouts dat are Bad...As long as you were not forced to buy the handouts.

oxford:

what do you term rude? Truth?
It time somebody stand up to ASUU. Am sure if i were the president, u wont be second quessing on how i will deal with this issues.

I have challenged u on key points but obviously u have no response to them

1. Lecturers are in breach of its terms of employement.

2. In terms moral and intergrity, ASUU is worse than the govt (i dont even want to talk about hand out racketering, marks for money, sexual assualt.....)

3. ASUU does not have Nigeria best interest at heart. ASUU is a selfish body that see strike action a tool of blackmail

4. ASUU is always on strike. Strike action is not the only tool at the disposal of trade unions. ( i should be lecturing u on this, u are a prof u know)

5. Like the president said, this strike is politicised. For ASUU to remain hell bent on what we all know is impossible ie govt should cought out 3trillion here and now!

6. Why am not surprise that opposition characters like elrufai, lie mohammed, npdp are suddently the mouth piece of ASUU?

ZackiGp:
no mind the yeye prof, its in their blood(going on strike). Look now he has gone on an indefinite strike frm this thread.

prof.femi:
I thank everyone who requested that I return to the thread.

I didn't leave because I thought those guys were rude; I was actually rather enjoying interacting with oxford because I felt his posts were becoming less vitriolic. I left because I was afraid that ZackiGp was right: that in my zeal to engage students, I was giving off the wrong sort of vibes (pride, arrogance etc), and I feared this would drown out my message.

I am relieved to find that such is not the case, and I will be happy to spend some more time on this forum later this afternoon/evening.

I do not know the mechanisms by which threads get 'frontpaged'. I did put in some effort to get FP status, but I'll appreciate if someone could speak with the mods or something. As uccee said, it would really help if this got wider coverage. Thanks.

chreld_b:

If you read and properly assimilated the OP's write I don't think you would have raised these points in the manner you have. Anyways here are some answers some of which are culled from the OP.


1. Lecturers are in breach of its terms of employement.

How? kindly expatiate.

2. In terms moral and intergrity, ASUU is worse than the govt (i dont even want to talk about hand out racketering, marks for money, sexual assualt.....)

Unsubstantiated claims!

3. ASUU does not have Nigeria best interest at heart. ASUU is a selfish body that see strike action a tool of blackmail

In as much as there is some selfishness in ASUU demnds, majority of it is for the betterment of the nation. If ASUU is so selfish why have they still refused to call of the strike when the only selfish aspect of their demands have been met by the FGN which is the payment of earned allowances.

Furthermore, refer to this quote from the OP

"we are asking that greater emphasis be placed on education, and we are not ashamed to say that. Every sector of the economy needs highly skilled workers.

Look, what is the point of living if one cannot learn from the experience of others? EVERY SINGLE COUNTRY that has become a world power has done so by FIRST developing education, especially tertiary education. Is it so hard for us to learn from others? We don’t need to write the book on nation-building. It’s already been written many times. All we have to do is learn from those that have done it. What is the sense in turning your back on something with a 100% success rate?

The thing that pains me most is that I just realized in the last few days that Ghana has positioned itself to be a global power and Nigeria’s big brother in the next few decades."
@ bolded this is where ASUU's demands have Nigerias interest accordin to the OP. What I expect you to do Oxford is to fault those claims with superior arguments and some making unsubstantiated assertions.

4. ASUU is always on strike. Strike action is not the only tool at the disposal of trade unions. ( i should be lecturing u on this, u are a prof u know)

Yes strike actions occurs when all other avenues have been exhausted. Negotiation is also a tool which took place between 2006-2009 where both parties came to an agreement. and an MOU was signed in 2012. So there is nothing else ASUU can do at this point. If you have any suggestion offer it I am sure ASUU will be happy to listen and implement it if they find it feasible.

Furthermore this is the OP's take on this point

"You are right, and I feel embarrassed that I would instigate an action whose major casualty is neither myself, nor my adversary. It is truly unfortunate, but the fact is that in Nigeria, there is no other way to apply pressure on the government. I have personally thought long and hard about this, and if anyone figures how to get the government to do the right thing without going on strike, you will be my hero for life".

5. Like the president said, this strike is politicised. For ASUU to remain hell bent on what we all know is impossible ie govt should cought out 3trillion here and now!

6. Why am not surprise that opposition characters like elrufai, lie mohammed, npdp are suddently the mouth piece of ASUU?

Refer to the OP's quote. It gives an answer to your opinion and observations in points 5 and 6.

"25. So you’re saying lecturers are holy-holy. Can you bet your life that ASUU is not being controlled by the opposition parties? (Pseudo question)

Answer:
No, I would be foolish to. But having said that, Occam ’s razor tells us that you don’t need to look for a convoluted answer when there is a simpler one that works just fine. ASUU does not need to be in league with the opposition because even as an apolitical member of the union, I fully realize the deep crevice our country is skirting. We need urgent intervention in the educational sector. It just so happens that since the government is not serious about the issue of education, it forms another cudgel for the opposition to hammer them with. That’s not our fault, and it does not mean we are in league with them."


I have been polite to you and i expect the same reciprocal response if any from you. cheers


Am not surprise by your ignorant post.

If a whole prof, who by all intend could be ASSU president himself in disguise could stand my missiles of facts, how could you possibly withstand me?

Now for starters ASSU alleged earned allowance is not 30billion like you stated but, wait for it, 98 billion!

So next time get your facts straight before exposing your ignorance in a public forum

chreld_b:

If you read and properly assimilated the OP's write I don't think you would have raised these points in the manner you have. Anyways here are some answers some of which are culled from the OP.


1. Lecturers are in breach of its terms of employement.

How? kindly expatiate.

2. In terms moral and intergrity, ASUU is worse than the govt (i dont even want to talk about hand out racketering, marks for money, sexual assualt.....)

Unsubstantiated claims!

3. ASUU does not have Nigeria best interest at heart. ASUU is a selfish body that see strike action a tool of blackmail

In as much as there is some selfishness in ASUU demnds, majority of it is for the betterment of the nation. If ASUU is so selfish why have they still refused to call of the strike when the only selfish aspect of their demands have been met by the FGN which is the payment of earned allowances.

Furthermore, refer to this quote from the OP

"we are asking that greater emphasis be placed on education, and we are not ashamed to say that. Every sector of the economy needs highly skilled workers.

Look, what is the point of living if one cannot learn from the experience of others? EVERY SINGLE COUNTRY that has become a world power has done so by FIRST developing education, especially tertiary education. Is it so hard for us to learn from others? We don’t need to write the book on nation-building. It’s already been written many times. All we have to do is learn from those that have done it. What is the sense in turning your back on something with a 100% success rate?

The thing that pains me most is that I just realized in the last few days that Ghana has positioned itself to be a global power and Nigeria’s big brother in the next few decades."
@ bolded this is where ASUU's demands have Nigerias interest accordin to the OP. What I expect you to do Oxford is to fault those claims with superior arguments and some making unsubstantiated assertions.

4. ASUU is always on strike. Strike action is not the only tool at the disposal of trade unions. ( i should be lecturing u on this, u are a prof u know)

Yes strike actions occurs when all other avenues have been exhausted. Negotiation is also a tool which took place between 2006-2009 where both parties came to an agreement. and an MOU was signed in 2012. So there is nothing else ASUU can do at this point. If you have any suggestion offer it I am sure ASUU will be happy to listen and implement it if they find it feasible.

Furthermore this is the OP's take on this point

"You are right, and I feel embarrassed that I would instigate an action whose major casualty is neither myself, nor my adversary. It is truly unfortunate, but the fact is that in Nigeria, there is no other way to apply pressure on the government. I have personally thought long and hard about this, and if anyone figures how to get the government to do the right thing without going on strike, you will be my hero for life".

5. Like the president said, this strike is politicised. For ASUU to remain hell bent on what we all know is impossible ie govt should cought out 3trillion here and now!

6. Why am not surprise that opposition characters like elrufai, lie mohammed, npdp are suddently the mouth piece of ASUU?

Refer to the OP's quote. It gives an answer to your opinion and observations in points 5 and 6.

"25. So you’re saying lecturers are holy-holy. Can you bet your life that ASUU is not being controlled by the opposition parties? (Pseudo question)

Answer:
No, I would be foolish to. But having said that, Occam ’s razor tells us that you don’t need to look for a convoluted answer when there is a simpler one that works just fine. ASUU does not need to be in league with the opposition because even as an apolitical member of the union, I fully realize the deep crevice our country is skirting. We need urgent intervention in the educational sector. It just so happens that since the government is not serious about the issue of education, it forms another cudgel for the opposition to hammer them with. That’s not our fault, and it does not mean we are in league with them."


I have been polite to you and i expect the same reciprocal response if any from you. cheers

prof.femi:
I thank everyone who requested that I return to the thread.

I didn't leave because I thought those guys were rude; I was actually rather enjoying interacting with oxford because I felt his posts were becoming less vitriolic. I left because I was afraid that ZackiGp was right: that in my zeal to engage students, I was giving off the wrong sort of vibes (pride, arrogance etc), and I feared this would drown out my message.

I am relieved to find that such is not the case, and I will be happy to spend some more time on this forum later this afternoon/evening.

I do not know the mechanisms by which threads get 'frontpaged'. I did put in some effort to get FP status, but I'll appreciate if someone could speak with the mods or something. As uccee said, it would really help if this got wider coverage. Thanks.

oxford:


Am not surprise by your ignorant post.

If a whole prof, who by all intend could be ASSU president himself in disguise could not stand my missiles of facts, how could you possibly withstand me?

Now for starters ASSU alleged earned allowance is not 30billion like you stated but, wait for it, 98 billion!

So next time get your facts straight before exposing your ignorance in a public forum

ennon92: "As long as you were not forced to buy the handouts" there would be "punitive" law for not buying handouts of some lecturers, so tell me y u won't succumb.

oxford: Prof, I never attempt to be rude to you but I hate deceit with passion. Your intend of opening this thread is not well vailed and I could see right through you. That I refused to join the bandwagon of your praise singers is to me a plus.

onlyme07: the FG is refusing to shift grounds likewise ASUU.Would the strike be on for ages?