theoctopus: @op, the FG did not spend 260 million per mega watt. They spent far less than that. Please do your calculation again. The FG's $8 billion is for both generation, thousands of kilometers of transmission lines, distribution and installation of a lot of sub stations and even transformers all over the country. Please dont even compare it to the fraud going on in Lagos.

So, how megawatts did OBJ added to the national grid after wasting 16 billion dollars? ZERO!!!

Fool.

The difference between the Lagos state and FGN contract as Gbawe's post shows is that the $8b will be shared by FGN employees and their cronies with absolutely nothing to show for it.

One can assume the Entire contract sum was 2013 bonus to one FGN employee or one God father. Nothing will come out of the FGN project as usual.

boladez: The difference between the Lagos state and FGN contract as Gbawe's post shows is that the $8b will be shared by FGN employees and their cronies with absolutely nothing to show for it.

One can assume the Entire contract sum was 2013 bonus to one FGN employee or one God father. Nothing will come out of the FGN project as usual.

that does not explain how fashola outspent the FG on price per MW of power
FG spent 260million per MW and fashola spent 400million per MW.

jazzydee:

that does not explain how fashola outspent the FG on price per MW of power
FG spent 260million per MW and fashola spent 400million per MW.

is obvious you are not reading in between the lines to decipher what he implied.

Shame on you Gbawe, agbameta and all APC e - rats coming out to defend such glaring over inflated contract. It is common of your criminal party to steal, then turn round to bombard the masses with loads of propaganda about an imaginary performance.

APC states introduced the 1 billion naira per 1KM road contracts even at a time most PDP states were still awarding it for 50 million naira. I remember Shameless Gbawe posting Googled Internet links attempting to defend the criminality going on in APC states

agbameta:



Is it not even a shame that with all the rubbish your jokers keep spewing about your MW and billions, no household, street, bridge, hospitals, public buildings is guaranteed power supply and even not uninterrupted power supply.

On the other hand, the 3 power plants in Lagos even at 10 x over budget guarantees our public buildings and infrastructures 24/7 power supply, it means our hospitals and operating rooms are not functioning in darkness or with the torchlight.

Your rubbish $8 billion MW nonsense can not give our hospitals or any of our infrastructures uninterrupted power supply so STFU abeg..

Sadly for you, your MWs and billions of dollars is of no use to the average Nigeria, it's the same waste and fraud we've been experiencing since independence.

We generated more more in 2007 than what's available today so kindly shove your billion dollar.

Useless villagers..smh

And the lion if bourdillon still had to go abroad for a mere knee surgery after 14 years of APC rule. SMH

Goddex: Shame on you Gbawe, agbameta and all APC e - rats coming out to defend such glaring over inflated contract. It is common of your criminal party to steal, then turn round to bombard the masses with loads of propaganda about an imaginary performance.

APC states introduced the 1 billion naira per 1KM road contracts even at a time most PDP states were still awarding it for 50 million naira. I remember Shameless Gbawe posting Googled Internet links attempting to defend the criminality going on in APC states

Dude, insult and uncouthness is all you have and tragic that those unsavoury qualities are not matched by any erudtion whatsoever or even adult pragmatism. Whatever you say in your layman ignorance, the central point remains that much more than Lagos spent can be used to build a power plant of the same capacity Oando delivered for N3.2 billion. Also, the fact someone else delivered cheaper is not proof of anything if we once again take the central point that many variable factors can skew cost considerably in any direction.

A person properly educated and in possession of a logical and analytical mind would know a detailed breakdown of cost is the only arbiter over the argument of contract inflation acceptable to reasonable people who wish to make informed and balanced decisions. Bringing cost per KM of road construction into issues only confirms, as usual, your hideous and near illiterate ignorance. Even my 5 year old kid knows that road construction cost can vary considerably. That you are happy to insult and slander others based on your own ignorance says a lot about you.

Gbawe face it..you are such a hypocrite..the honourable thing you should have done is to ignore this thread just the way you ignored the thread where your party members clashed in abeokuta

awodman: [s]Gbawe face it..you are such a hypocrite..the honourable thing you should have done is to ignore this thread just the way you ignored the thread where your party members clashed in abeokuta[/s]

Do you have any superior argument to counter his points? Nonsensicus!

awodman: Gbawe face it..you are such a hypocrite..the honourable thing you should have done is to ignore this thread just the way you ignored the thread where your party members clashed in abeokuta

If I am a hypocrite what are you if not an uneducated, highly dishonest and ignorant person unwilling to defer to fact? You are being shown, by those who are far more intelligent than you and know precisely what they are talking about, that cost for construction of a power plant can ,100% legitimately, vary considerably and your kind still show up to insist an e-lynching of others must still take place based on your own personal insistence and embarrassing ignorance.

What are we to do with people like you who have no use for established facts? Whatever I do here, no one can accuse me of lying or not working with facts or logic. Are you a power generation expert? What do you know about the topic? If nothing, just shut up and get lost. It is very distasteful how brazenly dishonest some of you Nigerians are. You disgrace our Nation trying to argue fraudulently against established facts merely because of your clannish devotion to a political camp. Hate the APC Party and whoever you assume is the enemy of your messiah GEJ all you want but uphold your position with facts always and refrain from disgracing Nigeria via displaying your alarming ease with dishonesty and disregard for facts.

Look at you all here, totally ignorant laymen, insisting wrongdoing has occurred merely because you say so alone whereas it is an engineering fact that a power station with the same capacity Oando delivered can cost considerably more than the N3.2 billion we are talking of here. When does basic morality cower the 419 instinct of you guys to make you defer to fact?

*556#:


Do you have any superior argument to counter his points? Nonsensicus!

Thank you !!!!! This is all they have in their 'arsenal' i.e a small-minded pettiness to join issue with others and hurl insult instead of presenting facts that can help their position/argument carry the day.

What else, for reasonable and morally upright folks, is there to talk about when it has been shown that the N3.2 billion Oando spent is much, much less than the figure can be depending on legitimate factors that skew total cost considerably? A reasonable and well-educated person, perhaps making informed decisions daily in life, will know only a detailed cost breakdown can prove anything either way since the engineering + or - cost limit actually validates what Oando spent !!!

Tedious having to deal with these simpletons everyday and their antics here only illustrate why we are where we are today. Can you imagine some of these guys as leaders? Sadly, that is the reality on the ground. Go figure.

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So, how megawatts did OBJ added to the national grid after wasting 16 billion dollars? ZERO!!!

Fool.

You labeled him a fool without any provocation.

But you will go on a long whine if harsher retaliation follows.

jmaine:

You labeled him a fool without any provocation.

But you will go on a long whine if harsher retaliation follows.

Are you "him" or his cočksucker?

*556#:


Are you "him" or his cočksucker?

Ignored lest we derail the thread . Please be guided . . .

the sensible question to ask BEFORE you compare is what type of power plant did lagos build?gas fired? Diesel fired? Did they have to buy land for the project? What type is the federal gov building? These things impact on cost.@op ...we can all key in to a particular party's ideology without necessarily losing our common sense.

jmaine:

Ignored lest we derail the thread . Please be guided . . .

What's the point of these useless thread?

phantom: the sensible question to ask BEFORE you compare is what type of power plant did lagos build?gas fired? Diesel fired? Did they have to buy land for the project? What type is the federal gov building? These things impact on cost.@op ...we can all key in to a particular party's ideology without necessarily losing our common sense.

Thank you and your intelligence will continue to grow. We cannot all see things the same way or indeed even support the same Political Party or leaders. That does not mean we become debased either to be using lies, slander and outright fabrication to shore up our biases and affiliations.

Smh for this apc e-pigs.They see the truth,but they will neva say the truth cos it has sumtin to do with an apc governor.If this report was about God'swill Akpabio buying 1mw for #200m,agbameta and co would av said akpabio is a thief,but now fashola spends #400m on 1mw,agbameta and co says it is right.Smh for nigeria if apc rules this country,we are in hot soup.Our debt will tripple more than this.

I don't know if the FG e-dawgs around are ready to admit there is something called 'economy of scale'? Well, in the article presented by Mr. OP, he kept realing out the generating capacity of the FG built plants in multiples of 125 MW. I beleive these capacity are the size of each generating units and it will be foolish to start comparing a 12MW to a 125MW unit in terms of cost. There are certain things that must be common to both plant irrespective of size. Also to note is the 'power factor' (effeciency co-efficient in layman's language) of the plants in question, the kind of fuel consumed, cost of running/maintenance, and many other technical factors that may affect cost.

agbameta:



Is it not even a shame that with all the rubbish your jokers keep spewing about your MW and billions, no household, street, bridge, hospitals, public buildings is guaranteed power supply and even not uninterrupted power supply.

On the other hand, the 3 power plants in Lagos even at 10 x over budget guarantees our public buildings and infrastructures 24/7 power supply, it means our hospitals and operating rooms are not functioning in darkness or with the torchlight.

Your rubbish $8 billion MW nonsense can not give our hospitals or any of our infrastructures uninterrupted power supply so STFU abeg..

Sadly for you, your MWs and billions of dollars is of no use to the average Nigeria, it's the same waste and fraud we've been experiencing since independence.

We generated more more in 2007 than what's available today so kindly shove your billion dollar.

Useless villagers..smh

If you had any sense, you will not compare the FG job of providing power across thousands of kilometers to LASG powering street lights from Alausa to VI. Such and idiotic comparison. Please stick to your giant generator sets and leave the business of serious power generation to serious people. I am enjoying tremendous power supply so your rant is meaningless.

Goddex: Shame on you Gbawe, agbameta and all APC e - rats coming out to defend such glaring over inflated contract. It is common of your criminal party to steal, then turn round to bombard the masses with loads of propaganda about an imaginary performance.

APC states introduced the 1 billion naira per 1KM road contracts even at a time most PDP states were still awarding it for 50 million naira. I remember Shameless Gbawe posting Googled Internet links attempting to defend the criminality going on in APC states

Shameless APC criminals.

Standing5: I don't know if the FG e-dawgs around are ready to admit there is something called 'economy of scale'? Well, in the article presented by Mr. OP, he kept realing out the generating capacity of the FG built plants in multiples of 125 MW. I beleive these capacity are the size of each generating units and it will foolish to start comparing a 12MW to a 125MW unit in terms of cost. There are certain things that must be common to both plant irrespective of size. Also to note is the 'power factor' (effeciency co-efficient in layman's language) of the plants in question, the kind of fuel consumed, cost of maintenance, and many other technical factors that may affect cost.

Kindly shed more light on this . . . .Thanks . . .

theoctopus:

[s]If you had any sense, you will not compare the FG job of providing power across thousands of kilometers to LASG powering street lights from Alausa to VI. Such and idiotic comparison. Please stick to your giant generator sets and leave the business of serious power generation to serious people. I am enjoying tremendous power supply so your rant is meaningless.[/s]

STFU you senseless joker. How did the FG entered the discussion? Because you clowns finds it hide to curb your dumbness and must thrown in the FG every time you see or hear Fashola.

Did your dumbasss not jump in here ranting about the FG and even the clown you quoted who jumped from the discussion to ranting about his silly apples and oranges FG MW and cost comparisons with Lagos?

Foolish clowns going on and on about $billions spent on some nonsense power plants . Of what use is your power fraud that Nigerians can't see or feel.

Our hospitals and public institutions and infrastructures can see and feel our 10MW generator so what's your damn ignorant point?


lol @ I'm enjoying tremendous power supply. Dumb illiterate,you must live on MARS....

Standing5: I don't know if the FG e-dawgs around are ready to admit there is something called 'economy of scale'? Well, in the article presented by Mr. OP, he kept realing out the generating capacity of the FG built plants in multiples of 125 MW. I beleive these capacity are the size of each generating units and it will foolish to start comparing a 12MW to a 125MW unit in terms of cost. There are certain things that must be common to both plant irrespective of size. Also to note is the 'power factor' (effeciency co-efficient in layman's language) of the plants in question, the kind of fuel consumed, cost of maintenance, and many other technical factors that may affect cost.

The dullards can not because this is way way above their Aso Rock installed capacity..

Gbawe.:


Thank you !!!!! This is all they have in their 'arsenal' i.e a small-minded pettiness to join issue with others and hurl insult instead of presenting facts that can help their position/argument carry the day.

What else, for reasonable and morally upright folks, is there to talk about when it has been shown that the N3.2 billion Oando spent is much, much less than the figure can be depending on legitimate factors that skew total cost considerably? A reasonable and well-educated person, perhaps making informed decisions daily in life, will know only a detailed cost breakdown can prove anything either way since the engineering + or - cost limit actually validates what Oando spent !!!

Tedious having to deal with these simpletons everyday and their antics here only illustrate why we are where we are today. Can you imagine some of these guys as leaders? Sadly, that is the reality on the ground. Go figure.

You so much pride in this your intelligence..please who told you..you are intelligent?

awodman:
You so much pride in this your intelligence..please who told you..you are intelligent?

A reasonable and well-educated person, perhaps making informed decisions daily in life, will know only a detailed cost breakdown can prove anything either way since the engineering + or - cost limit actually validates what Oando spent

He didn't say he was even though he sounds very more intelligence than you and your type. You people think with your Anus and probably walk on your brains..

awodman:
You so much pride in this your intelligence..please who told you..you are intelligent?

My brother, I wonder oh. . .

phantom: the sensible question to ask BEFORE you compare is what type of power plant did lagos build?gas fired? Diesel fired? Did they have to buy land for the project? What type is the federal gov building? These things impact on cost.@op ...we can all key in to a particular party's ideology without necessarily losing our common sense.

Didn't know you are capable of formulating sane and rational thoughts.

Kudos to you this one time...

I believe this plant is both gas and diesel fired, will that not cause the cost to be high, we know hybrid cars are usually more expensive than normal ones, also, dies the cost include transmission and distribution. I think there should be a website where these costs can be computed.

Apc goons pls compare fashola power plant cost and a power plant cost of a private company! And let God help u have conscience in ur judgment!

Nigerian multi-millionaire tycoon Abdulsamad Rabiu is reportedly constructing a $500 million ultra-modern cement plant in Edo State in the south of Nigeria.
The cement plant, which will have a three million metric tonnes per annum (mtpa) capacity, is near completion and is expected to be commissioned early next year. Abdulsamad Rabiu disclosed this much last week in London during the signing of a $35 million contract agreement between his company, BUA Group and Siemens for the construction of a gas turbine power plant for the new BUA Group Edo Cement factory. Siemens is expected to supply three SGT 500 turbines with a total capacity of 45 megawatts to supply power to the cement plant.
With this new cement production facility, Abdulsamad Rabiu will compete with Africa’s richest man, Aliko Dangote, for a share of Nigeria’s lucrative cement market.
Rabiu, who is worth $675 million by FORBES’ latest estimates, is easily Aliko Dangote’s fiercest and most formidable competition in Nigeria. Rabiu’s conglomerate, the BUA Group, has substantial interests in the key sectors Dangote is heavily vested in- cement, flour and sugar production. Dangote has always held the upper hand in all these sectors, but BUA Group has been a worthy challenger. With BUA’s new facility, Dangote’s monopolistic dominance in the very lucrative cement sector might be endangered, but only a little bit. BUA’s 3 million-mtpa facility is only a tiny fraction of Dangote’s cement production assets in Nigeria,which have a combined capacity of 20 million mtpa.
Rabiu learned the rop

billante: Apc goons pls compare fashola power plant cost and a power plant cost of a private company! And let God help u have conscience in ur judgment!

^^Good point, but still doesn't prove everrthing.
Power plants normally have features that influence their efficiency. Some power plants are designed to have a slow start but once it is running, will have a higher effficiency compared to others that can be fired up in few seconds. All turbine plants are not the same. What i am trying to say is Lagos state may be 'more' guilty than OP has claimed and it could as well be the FG who are guilty of building overpriced plants here. most posters so far have not hit the point the that matters here, plus a private establishment dealing with Seimens directly will have no middle man - contractors like OANDO, in this case, to help drive cost up.

Atleast Fashola's megawatts are there for all to see. Where the hell is FG's megawatts?

- Fashola spent 400m and the megawatt is there for all to see.

- FG spent 260m and we havent seen a kilowatt

^
Who is the real thief?