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Re: Why Do Churches Have Different Doctrines And Denominations? by Syncan(m): 6:59am On Oct 18, 2013 |
@ Italo, pls do not forget to continue asking the question o, "what is the pillar and foundation of truth"? |
Re: Why Do Churches Have Different Doctrines And Denominations? by italo: 7:01am On Oct 18, 2013 |
Syncan: Just imagine! "Call me brother" "call me brother" They say we be antichrist, yet them wan be antichrist brother... |
Re: Why Do Churches Have Different Doctrines And Denominations? by adsonstone: 7:02am On Oct 18, 2013 |
italo: I am Jesus' sheep, being fed by what Jesus taught himself and what Apostle Peter and other Apostles taught in the early church (all which is contained in the Bible). I do not follow what men have put together which is not in line with the bible. #its my standard. |
Re: Why Do Churches Have Different Doctrines And Denominations? by italo: 7:04am On Oct 18, 2013 |
knowledge4: Follow the bible. Focus on the bible.Look on to Jesus Christ alone as author and finisher of your faith, What is the pillar and foundation of the truth...the Church or the Bible? No Protestant has been able to answer it after 4days, 10pages, 300posts. Maybe you can help them. |
Re: Why Do Churches Have Different Doctrines And Denominations? by Enigma(m): 7:05am On Oct 18, 2013 |
Ah, let me remind my crybabies one more time. Anyway here is what someone who himself very nearly became a "pope" said: Per "Cardinal" Baronius "The chief lesson of these times is that the Church can get along very well without popes. What is vital to the Church's survival is not the pope but Jesus Christ. He is the head of the Church, not the pope." |
Re: Why Do Churches Have Different Doctrines And Denominations? by italo: 7:12am On Oct 18, 2013 |
adsonstone: The bold is a lie. All Peter's teachings are not in the Bible. Infact, only a tiny fraction of their teachings are in the Bible. Most of their teachings were by oral tradition. Agreed? |
Re: Why Do Churches Have Different Doctrines And Denominations? by SalC: 7:15am On Oct 18, 2013 |
Enigma: Ah, let me remind my crybabies one more time.Enigma you can do better than this repetition which has lost its meaning. Stop trolling and contribute if you have any. |
Re: Why Do Churches Have Different Doctrines And Denominations? by italo: 7:17am On Oct 18, 2013 |
adsonstone: 2. How do you that Peter ever wrote anything you have been reading in the Bible and you're being fed by him? My answer: The Church (men) told me. Yours? |
Re: Why Do Churches Have Different Doctrines And Denominations? by Enigma(m): 7:17am On Oct 18, 2013 |
Enigma: My dear sister, do you see now that between you and I and in our little single question and answer, we have already demonstrated at least how denominationalism can start! @ okpurukata I wonder if you followed the exchange between me and woky. If you don't mind, I'd like to ask you the same question please. Question: Myself and two other friends believe in Jesus Christ as the Son of God and God the Son born of virgin Mary. We meet regularly to pray and sing hymns together. Would you call us {your} brothers or would you call us {your} "separated brethren"? {Please, kindly give reasons/explanation for your answer, thanks.} |
Re: Why Do Churches Have Different Doctrines And Denominations? by Enigma(m): 7:20am On Oct 18, 2013 |
Sal C: Enigma you can do better than this repetition which has lost its meaning. Stop trolling and contribute if you have any. You mean you can't see my other contributions! And how many times have I posted this? Or is it because what the "cardinal" said is true --- that we do not need "popes"? And what do you have to say about the Roman Catholic posters and their posts? By the way, I pose this question to you too! Question: Myself and two other friends believe in Jesus Christ as the Son of God and God the Son born of virgin Mary. We meet regularly to pray and sing hymns together. Would you call us {your} brothers or would you call us {your} "separated brethren"? {Please, kindly give reasons/explanation for your answer, thanks.} |
Re: Why Do Churches Have Different Doctrines And Denominations? by italo: 7:22am On Oct 18, 2013 |
adsonstone: What is the pillar and foundation of truth? |
Re: Why Do Churches Have Different Doctrines And Denominations? by Enigma(m): 7:26am On Oct 18, 2013 |
@Sal C One more question actually, do you agree or disagree with what the "cardinal" said? Anyway here is what someone who himself very nearly became a "pope" said: Per "Cardinal" Baronius "The chief lesson of these times is that the Church can get along very well without popes. What is vital to the Church's survival is not the pope but Jesus Christ. He is the head of the Church, not the pope." |
Re: Why Do Churches Have Different Doctrines And Denominations? by adsonstone: 7:30am On Oct 18, 2013 |
italo: My answer: The Church (men) also told me. For the question you asked in the previous post: I said 'all which is contained in the bible' meaning 'I follow only the ones in the bible.' I don't mean all what he taught are recorded in the bible. His teaching that were by oral tradition (which were not recorded) are always subject to verification as original details are hard to come across. |
Re: Why Do Churches Have Different Doctrines And Denominations? by esther4real(f): 7:32am On Oct 18, 2013 |
read Deuteronomy 4 vrs 16-19 ( all.Catholic members) emulate d worship the people called ISREAL they hold the true doctrine of worship n truth. |
Re: Why Do Churches Have Different Doctrines And Denominations? by Nobody: 7:36am On Oct 18, 2013 |
adsonstone: How do you know the books in the bible are genuine scriptures considering the fact there are not the only extant writings purpotedly written by the apostles or ancient jewish prophets Do you also know that some of the biblical information(like the authourship of the four anonymous gospels and some other writings) were also gotten through oral tradition? |
Re: Why Do Churches Have Different Doctrines And Denominations? by esther4real(f): 7:38am On Oct 18, 2013 |
[quote author=Jayboi]I'm a proud catholic. It is the one true church founded by christ. Some wud say it is old, get on wit life and roll with the new way i.e new generatn churches bt I ask...why do u go to church? To dance? To get solutns to ur problems? To listen to motivational talks? I pity some pple. Some respect their pastors even more than God. But leme tel u one thing...devil don wise up o. Nowadays, the devil wud declare in Jesus' name and even make it luk so Godlike bt in d end, its always disastarous. [/quote. just as you take your pope as god cux he doesn't worth d capital G |
Re: Why Do Churches Have Different Doctrines And Denominations? by adsonstone: 7:51am On Oct 18, 2013 |
chukwudi44: Beginning to doubt the genuineness of the Bible is a turn off and a total waste of time for any Christian (I don't know what else will be his guide for the Christian life if what he follows is not genuine) Oral tradition or not, we have what we have (and I believe its all we need) in the Bible. If there were other things we needed (from the oral tradition you stated), it must have also been included in the bible. |
Re: Why Do Churches Have Different Doctrines And Denominations? by Nobody: 7:56am On Oct 18, 2013 |
adsonstone: Bros would you not be a hypocrite if you chose to believe one oral tradition and discard another one comming from the same source? If the source is evil why not throw everything that comes from it away |
Re: Why Do Churches Have Different Doctrines And Denominations? by adsonstone: 8:08am On Oct 18, 2013 |
chukwudi44: And where's the evidence it actually evolved from oral tradition? My point: If both are from the same source, they won't contradict one another. Besides, what's written (in the Bible) will surely (and clearly) portray what's practised (in the Oral Tradition). |
Re: Why Do Churches Have Different Doctrines And Denominations? by chidachris(m): 8:20am On Oct 18, 2013 |
millzbozz: Who wrote the Bible? Check all the My friend you have done well in trying to relate to us the history of the bible based on ur findings. The codex vaticanus actually compiled in 1209 by the vatican does not mean bible history and compilation will be traced to the vatican. This scriptures were first written in scrolls by the original authors (moses, the prophets, the apostles etc) in the official jewish language - Hebrew. Years later it was translated to greek language. The codex vaticanus is a latin version that was perculair to only the vatican then (note that as at that time, it wasn't only the catholic church in existence then) churches had already been established in ephesus, anthioc,corinth etc. Even the codex vaticanus was also in pachments (in form of scrolls) So please I will appreciate if we do not link the bible to any denomination. It is a well established fact that the first official bible to be published is the King James Version. All previous translations were in parchments and not compiled as a full book. To further solidify this; pls use any search engine to research on "the history of the bible" the codex vaticanus is no where near it. It wasn't a generally accepted translation. However nice findings. |
Re: Why Do Churches Have Different Doctrines And Denominations? by Syncan(m): 8:21am On Oct 18, 2013 |
adsonstone: Jude quoted the book of enoch in his epistle, pls what portion of your bible is the book of enoch he quoted? |
Re: Why Do Churches Have Different Doctrines And Denominations? by Ukutsgp(m): 8:21am On Oct 18, 2013 |
italo:i just say that to express my amazement. That does not mean that u know the bible more than me. U cant twist scripture to deceive me. I know the history of the bible but u would be adamant to accept d truth. I dnt waist my time for nothing. Ok. |
Re: Why Do Churches Have Different Doctrines And Denominations? by adsonstone: 8:27am On Oct 18, 2013 |
Syncan: Hello, that portion quoted by Jude is what you need for your Christian walk. Going to research for the whole Book of Enoch will be awful. However, I'm quite sure you'll get more wrong things than right ones in your research (if you do). |
Re: Why Do Churches Have Different Doctrines And Denominations? by kunle4you: 8:28am On Oct 18, 2013 |
Ukuts gp: U mean d devil is d one confusing the pastors abi. Why do we blame satan for everything?hahahahhaahhahahahaha I love that |
Re: Why Do Churches Have Different Doctrines And Denominations? by italo: 8:32am On Oct 18, 2013 |
@adsonstone, How then can you know you are being fed by Peter? The letters that are attributed to Peter and his apostles could have been written by anybody else. How are you sure of the source of the letters? |
Re: Why Do Churches Have Different Doctrines And Denominations? by italo: 8:34am On Oct 18, 2013 |
@adsonstone, What's the pillar and foundation of truth? |
Re: Why Do Churches Have Different Doctrines And Denominations? by italo: 8:35am On Oct 18, 2013 |
Ukuts gp: i just say that to express my amazement. That does not mean that u know the bible more than me. U cant twist scripture to deceive me. I know the history of the bible but u would be adamant to accept d truth. I dnt waist my time for nothing. Ok. What is the foundation and pillar of truth? |
Re: Why Do Churches Have Different Doctrines And Denominations? by chidachris(m): 8:37am On Oct 18, 2013 |
chukwudi44: Doubting the authenticity of the bible can be likened to idolatery. Pls let's be mindfull of what we say and think in our hearts cos d devil is extremely smart and may coarse you into thinking negative. Moreso the words of the bible goes beyond oral tradition. Cos MOST of the apostles wrote the books themselves and was not reported by a 3rd party. |
Re: Why Do Churches Have Different Doctrines And Denominations? by adsonstone: 8:38am On Oct 18, 2013 |
italo: @adsonstone, My answer: Jesus is. (His teaching) I'll appreciate it if you also answer this question. |
Re: Why Do Churches Have Different Doctrines And Denominations? by adsonstone: 8:40am On Oct 18, 2013 |
italo: @adsonstone, I don't doubt the Bible. |
Re: Why Do Churches Have Different Doctrines And Denominations? by jnrbayano(m): 8:49am On Oct 18, 2013 |
italo:That's wisdom at work. I commend u both immensely. The goal is for Jesus n nt to prove a point. God bless u both. |
Re: Why Do Churches Have Different Doctrines And Denominations? by tete7000(m): 8:52am On Oct 18, 2013 |
Sability:You must know more than Christ himself who first changed Simon name to Peter which means the rock and then went on to say 'Upon this rock I will build my Church'. Did you hear him say 'Upon this testimony I will build my Church?'. Olodo, confusionist, liar. Go back and reread that account of the gospel well. |
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