gregg2:

Over priced as how? Were quotations not received, reviewed and Purchase Order awarded? At least, I saw all those documents there on the net. See, procurement as a profession doesn't work like that. Let alone government procurement - from federal, state to LGA.

You insist the vehicles weren't over-priced, so I ask: Have you ever heard of a bulletproof BMW sold for $800,000, anywhere in the world?

@Spincere9Nigerian, nice try but we aren't buying this tosh. As far as this issue is concerned, Oduah's performance so far is irrelevant. If she's misappropriated funds, she should be dealt with according to the dictates of the law. No dilly-dallying.
However, feel free to sell this nonsense to the likes of SleekP and Wilywily. The rest of the sane world knows bullshite when we see it.

go to where, is she the only on eating, u urself can u swear u will not be tempted to do same if u find ur self in such position. abeg stella carry go. na babylon we dey

HNosegbe: Sincere 9gerian, you should have remained quiet on this issue rather than type the drivel I just read.

The minister's actions are indefensible. She has to go, else GEJ will have the stench of corruption all over him to the end of his tenure.

nedu666: go to where, is she the only on eating, u urself can u swear u will not be tempted to do same if u find ur self in such position. abeg stella carry go. na babylon we dey

The fact that you are morally bankrupt enough to sell your conscience for a pot of porridge and peppersoup shouldn't make you assume everyone else is.

nedu666: go to where, is she the only on eating, u urself can u swear u will not be tempted to do same if u find ur self in such position. abeg stella carry go. na babylon we dey

Na wao. Of all your mor0nic postings on this forum, this one takes the cake.

HNosegbe: Sincere 9gerian, you should have remained quiet on this issue rather than type the drivel I just read.

The minister's actions are indefensible. She has to go, else GEJ will have the stench of corruption all over him to the end of his tenure.

Exactly..if GEJ doesn't sack her, he will be justifying those who say he aids and supports corruption..he should take a firm and decisive action on this scandal

u again why dont u restrict urself to the radio/tv section

take dat: Na wao. Of all your mor0nic postings on this forum, this one takes the cake.

HNosegbe:

You insist the vehicles weren't over-priced, so I ask: Have you ever heard of a bulletproof BMW sold for $800,000, anywhere in the world?

Is Oduah the Procurement Director of Ministry of Aviation? Is she the Permanent Secretary of that ministry? These are officials that carry out procurement activities for the ministry - sourcing, bidding, negotiation, ordering, receiving.

^^^

Typical Nigerian, answering a question with another.

Goddex:

Is Oduah the Procurement Director of Ministry of Aviation? Is she the Permanent Secretary of that ministry? These are officials that carry out procurement activities for the ministry - sourcing, bidding, negotiation, ordering, receiving.

Its better to watch from the sidelines if you don't have something sensible to say.

Obviously you don't know how approvals are used in any organisation.

awodman:
Exactly..if GEJ doesn't sack her, he will be justifying those who say he aids and supports corruption..he should take a firm and decisive action on this scandal

Joke of the century. Did you really expect the president to sack Odua for the purchase of 2 vehicles for the office of the minister of aviation? Is the minister not entititled to protection if her life is threatened?

Maybe the vehicle should have been bought at a cheaper cost or maybe they should have been bought under the table since it has to do with personal security. But besides the above, honestly, I do not see any other wrong doing.

The cries about misappropriation or corruption is coming from familiar quarters. Where is the corruption in buying security vehicles in response to security threats?

Sacking the minister because of the usual NOISE about corruption from familiar quarters is PLAYING TO THE GALLERY. The president Jonathan I know does NOT play to the gallery.

Sincere 9gerian:
[s]Joke of the century. Did you really expect the president to sack Odua for the purchase of 2 vehicles for the office of the minister of aviation? Is the minister not entititled to protection if her life is threatened?

Maybe the vehicle should have been bought at a cheaper cost or maybe they should have been bought under the table since it has to do with personal security. But besides the above, honestly, I do not see any other wrong doing.

The cries about misappropriation or corruption is coming from familiar quarters. Where is the corruption in buying security vehicles in response to security threats?

Sacking the minister because of the usual NOISE about corruption from familiar quarters is PLAYING TO THE GALLERY. The president Jonathan I know does NOT play to the gallery.[/s]

1. Is the NCAA the purchasing unit for the Ministry of Aviation.


2. Was this part of NCAA's 2013 stipulated budget?

3. Is this part of GEJ's transformation agenda?


Questions for you to sleep..

Sincere 9gerian:
Joke of the century. Did you really expect the president to sack Odua for the purchase of 2 vehicles for the office of the minister of aviation? Is the minister not entititled to protection if her life is threatened?

Maybe the vehicle should have been bought at a cheaper cost or maybe they should have been bought under the table since it has to do with personal security. But besides the above, honestly, I do not see any other wrong doing.

The cries about misappropriation or corruption is coming from familiar quarters. Where is the corruption in buying security vehicles in response to security threats?

Sacking the minister because of the usual NOISE about corruption from familiar quarters is PLAYING TO THE GALLERY. The president Jonathan I know does NOT play to the gallery.

How can he play to the gallery when he is enmeshed in the corruption himself? Is it not the same GEJ that awarded maritime security contracts to an individual when Nigeria has a Navy? GTFOH

Sincere 9gerian:
Joke of the century. Did you really expect the president to sack Odua for the purchase of 2 vehicles for the office of the minister of aviation? Is the minister not entititled to protection if her life is threatened?

Maybe the vehicle should have been bought at a cheaper cost or maybe they should have been bought under the table since it has to do with personal security. But besides the above, honestly, I do not see any other wrong doing.

The cries about misappropriation or corruption is coming from familiar quarters. Where is the corruption in buying security vehicles in response to security threats?

Sacking the minister because of the usual NOISE about corruption from familiar quarters is PLAYING TO THE GALLERY. The president Jonathan I know does NOT play to the gallery.

Why should the NCAA be the one to buy the vehicle?..should that be the right channel..sorry am not with you on this

@Insincere Nigerian, Elrufai didn't steal up to dz woman, did beta work which no minister has ever done bt he wz bashed severally then why should she be spared. I can't help but think dz guy is Reuben Abati cos only him can keep supporting rubbish, funny how money brings out d true colour of people.

The only problem I have with the issue of purchasing vehicles by NCAA for Nigerian ministry of aviation is product in question. If the vehicles were INNO Motors instead of BMW, all these noisemakers on this thread could jump a cliff and I shall not give a ratarse.

plaindealer:



1. Is the NCAA the purchasing unit for the Ministry of Aviation.


2. Was this part of NCAA's 2013 stipulated budget?

3. Is this part of GEJ's transformation agenda?


Questions for you to sleep..

Every ministry has parastatals, some of which generate revenue internally. SEC for instance did not get any budgetary allocation but it is still running till today due to internally generated revenue. NCAA is autonomous agency but under administrative control of the ministry of aviation. The funds used in running aviation comes from budgetary allocation and internally generated revenue. The internally generated revenue of the ministry of aviation comes from NCAA, NIMETH, FAAN, etc. In fact, by 2015/2016, the target of the current minister is that the aviation sector will be run solely on funds generated internally.

The vehicles in question may have been purchased under the security votes of the ministry of aviation. All the ministries also have security votes.

awodman:
Why should the NCAA be the one to buy the vehicle?..should that be the right channel..sorry am not with you on this

The ministry of aviation generate revenue internally through agencies such as NCAA, FAAN, NAMA,etc. Of all these agencies, NCAA appear to generate the most revenue. These internally generated revenue is combined with budgetary allocation to execute projects in the ministry. In fact, the target of the minister is that in 2 to 3 years time, the ministry will run solely on internally generated revenue. It is the minister that supervises the deployment of the revenue generated by the agencies. That is why she has administrative control over these bodies.

The noise you hear from stakeholders in aviation is partly because leakages in collection of revenue internally are being blocked.

But like I wrote earlier, she should have been a little bit more circumspect in engaging in such purchases since it has to do with personal security.

Sincere 9gerian:
The ministry of aviation generate revenue internally through agencies such as NCAA, FAAN, NAMA,etc. Of all these agencies, NCAA appear to generate the most revenue. These internally generated revenue is combined with budgetary allocation to execute projects in the ministry. In fact, the target of the minister is that in 2 to 3 years time, the ministry will run solely on internally generated revenue. It is the minister that supervises the deployment of the revenue generated by the agencies. That is why she has administrative control over these bodies.

Hogwash! The ministries rely solely on what is appropriated and allocated for them by the National Assembly in the National Budget. NCAA enjoys financial autonomy separate from the ministry.

take dat: Paints on fire! The ministries and even the self accounting ones rely solely on what is appropriated and allocated for them by the National Assembly in the National Budget. NCAA enjoys financial autonomy separate from the ministry.

Let them continue to swim in needless and pointless extenuating arguments.

Afterall, it's all in a day's job for them.

They're Paid Per Post (PPP) or Paid Per Page (PPP). It's not that easy to come up with sensible posts/pages these days. Show them some empathy.


Just listen to the annoying argument: the Minister needs TWO armoured vehicles to protect her life! This is a country where many citizens are struggling to have TWO meals per day. This is a country where people scramble for gifts and die in the process.

This is a country where kids roam the streets without education and adults and kids are without toilet facilities. A country where able bodied men live on scavenging on refuse dumps and women die in labour and while pregnant in large numbers.

How can any public official in his/her right senses spend so much money on such nonsense!

If that is bad, it's even worse that some Oduah-in-the-making mercenaries are justifying the travesty because of the allure of PPP!

They must really think that Nigerians are fools or 'mumus'.

My friend sincere 9gerian need to pipe low on this very disappointing and nauseating acts of the Minister of Aviation. Though he is very correct GEJ won't act on impulse to sack the aviation minister.


Its shocking and funny that in 2 weeks time, all will be calm.Nothing was worse than Alams Pardon

Sincere 9gerian:
Again, I think we must also place side by side the alleged or perceived sins of the minister with the good works she has done in the last 2 years. We must place the N255 million spent on the controversial vehicles side by side with over N800 million being spent per Airport in the ongoing remodelling of the 22 Airports across the federation. That is a total of about N18 billion that is currently being spent on remodelling of the Airports. What about the funds spent so far to purchase and install safety equipments for Nigerian Airspace Management Agency (NAMA) and Nigeria Meteorological Agency (NIMET), including doppler weather radar, completion of the Total Radar Coverage of Nigeria (TRACON), wind shear alert system, etc

Insincere9gerian, is this thief, Stella Oduah, spending her money?

jmaine: My friend sincere 9gerian need to pipe low on this very disappointing and nauseating acts of the Minister of Aviation. Though he is very correct GEJ won't act on impulse to sack the aviation minister.


Its shocking and funny that in 2 weeks time, all will be calm.Nothing was worse than Alams Pardon

Good to see a balanced view from you.

The fact that some people think that Jonathan won't do anything to the Aviation Minister vindicates the position of some of us that 'corruption don tie wrapper for this administration' and it does nobody (including the corrupt) any good.

I don't hate Jonathan but I hate the fact that he lacks the guts to combat our enemy number 1 - Corruption.

If Nigeria moves up greatly in terms of standard of living, all of us will benefit therefrom, regardless of religion/tribe. This is why we must rise in unison against all forms of corruption or pseudo-corruption.

Vote corruption till 2019, always finding room to justify corruption . Haba no sincerity.*******team stella out*******

awodman:
Exactly..if GEJ doesn't sack her, he will be justifying those who say he aids and supports corruption..he should take a firm and decisive action on this scandal

...he should sack her along with every other minister in his cabinet...this level of corruption and even more is common in ALL ministries and parastals without exception,so why the hue and cry over ONLY aviation,finance and petroleum?

..the rot is far more than you'll ever imagine...no time for selective punitive measures against public office holders..The Governors and LG chairmen are in it too,so let the sweeping changes begin.

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As expected, the government of president Goodluck Jonathan is excessively corrupt.

take dat: Hogwash! The ministries rely solely on what is appropriated and allocated for them by the National Assembly in the National Budget. NCAA enjoys financial autonomy separate from the ministry.

Maybe you should read the report below to learn more about the drive for internally generated revenue in the ministry of aviation:

"The Minister of Aviation, Princess Stella Adaeze Oduah has declared that her focus of is to reposition the aviation industry as a major contributor to the nation’s Gross Domestic Product (GDP).

She made the declaration before the Senate Committee on Aviation while presenting the -Roadmap for Aviation Industry- to the lawmakers.

The Minister said in view of the fact that government alone cannot fund the infrastructure deficit in the sector, efforts are being intensified to improve the revenue generation capacities of ALL the Agencies under the Ministry.

The projection, according to the Minister is that from the fiscal year 2012, the Aviation Ministry should be able to contribute about 30 per cent of all its Internally Generated Revenue (IGR) to the Federation Account, stressing that revenue enhancement is at the heart of the reform and transformation of the sector.

”As part of our revenue enhancement strategy, we have identified all areas where we are currently not generating enough revenue. We have also put in place modalities to turn them into major revenue generation centres from where we should be able to contribute our quota to the federal purse. Come 2012, 30 per cent of all revenue generated will go to the national grid, which means the aviation industry will begin to contribute to our GDP and thereafter we will increase it to 50 per cent and so on.”

She said the era where the Ministry was solely dependent on government subvention is no longer sustainable, stressing that rather than get from the federal purse, her vision is to turn the sector to a major contributor to the treasury and catalyst of econmic growth"

http://www.vanguardngr.com/2011/10/aviation-minister-unveils-roadmap/

Pukkah:

Good to see a balanced view from you.

The fact that some people think that Jonathan won't do anything to the Aviation Minister vindicates the position of some of us that 'corruption don tie wrapper for this administration' and it does nobody (including the corrupt) any good.

I don't hate Jonathan but I hate the fact that he lacks the guts to combat our enemy number 1 - Corruption.

If Nigeria moves up greatly in terms of standard of living, all of us will benefit therefrom, regardless of religion/tribe. This is why we must rise in unison against all forms of corruption or pseudo-corruption.

Liar! Your number one enemy is not corruption rather it is the STRUCTURE of your country.

A minister uses over a quarter of a billion naira to buy fancy vehicles for herself, and a worthless clown is drawing a line of defence for her.

SMH...

Sincere 9gerian:
Ignoramus! Maybe you should read my post again. I didn't justify anything. I only isolated the incident for criticism.

Do you think you are talking to iidiots? You must be so full of yourself with the fake doctorate that you are claiming.

What exactly do you mean by " isolated the incident for criticism"?

The questions here are:

1. Has the Minister misappropriated public funds?

2. Was there an attempt by her office to deny her culpability?

Your pathetic essay is just another ridiculous attempt at damage limitation and you have imbibed the sanctimonious and fraudulent traits that is fundamentally characteristic of the administration that you are working for.

You make it sound like the intentional gross misappropriation of public funds by Madame Stella Oduah is just a honest oversight and a mistake that we should forgive and sweep under the carpet- hence why you said she should "learn some lessons" and "If people make mistakes or engage in wrong doing, we can isolate the issues and deal with them"- Shocking!

Your comments are not only particularly obnoxious and borderline criminal but also contradictory since the majority of your posts are direct criticism and vilification of opposition politicians mainly in the SW. You consistently remind readers on NL of the corrupt practices of SW politicians- most of which you have made up in your own head but find it very convenient to refer to a blatant criminal case of public embezzlement as an isolated case. You are nothing but insincere and a hypocrite.

One would have imagined that someone who calls or refers to himself/herself as a Doctor would have undergone years of training in critical thinking and analysis and as a result would provide a well thought out and coherent contribution and analysis to this debate but what your submission is academically below par, politically reprehensible and essentially a poor attempt at whitewashing the actions of a criminal Minister.

N.B. Remember that you cannot just turn up here and hoodwink people into believing your propaganda- not everyone here is dumb as you think

I agree with Sincere_9gerian that the minister performed well in some aspects of her job and she deserves credit for that.

On the other hand, I, along with other people who are not shameless enough to sweep Madam minister's crimes under the carpet, demand that she takes the high road and resign. She should be grateful enough to save GEJ additional embarrassment.

People who commit crimes such as this deserve to be either stoned or publicly lynched right along with their apologists.

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May God continue to bless Oby, that woman is just too wonderful, Stella Oduah na thief.