Dantedasz: So man does good deeds in order to avoid punishment (hell) in order to gain a fat reward (eternal life/beautiful heaven.
Man does not do good because it is ethically right to do good but because he selfishly seeks to make it to heaven?

Dantedasz: ^^
Read your posts again.

lanrexlan: Yes,it's humane to do good because the breath of Allah was breathed into man when Allah created him[Surah As-Sajadah 32:9].So,by default man is created to do good deeds in order to attain high moral standards.
Our beloved prophet Muhammad(pbuh) was reported saying on the authority of Abdullah bin Amr(May Allah be pleased with him):Allah's Apostle(pbuh) neither talked in an insulting manner nor did he ever speak evil intentionally.He used to say:The most beloved to me amongst you is the one who has the best character and manners.[Sahih Al-Bukhari Book 57,Hadith Number 104]

Human beings should do good actions for moral and ethical reasons because these good actions are very beloved in the sight of Allah(swt) and it is also among the commandments of Allah(swt) laid down.
The recompense of doing good deeds as promised by Allah is paradise.
For example,someone is working because he wants to change his condition and the condition of people around him by the knowledge he possesses and also loves the Job.
But at the same time,he will expect something as salary at the end of the month as his recompense.

Similarly,human beings should do good actions because it will benefit mankind and also a commandment of the creator.He also expect a reward from Allah because he's doing good actions for the sake of Allah and also for ethical reasons(which is also a commandment of the creator).


Allah says in the glorious Quran in Surah Ad-Dhariyat 51:57 -I(Allah) seek not any provision from them (i.e. provision for themselves or for My creatures)nor do I ask that they should feed Me (i.e. feed themselves or My creatures).So if Allah is telling mankind to feed themselves and feed his creatures,do good to themselves and do good to others.Don't you think people that do so deserves a recompense from their creator?

I hope you get my explanations Madame.

lanrexlan: I am a slave of the Most Gracious(Allah).He is my Lord and my purpose on earth is to worship Him and obey his orders and if I do so,he would not punish me.....Peace

lanrexlan: Human beings should do good actions for moral and ethical reasons because these good actions are very beloved in the sight of Allah(swt) and it is also among the commandments of Allah(swt) laid down.The recompense of doing good deeds as promised by Allah is paradise.

Dantedasz: So man does good deeds in order to avoid punishment (hell) in order to gain a fat reward (eternal life/beautiful heaven.
Man does not do good because it is ethically right to do good but because he selfishly seeks to make it to heaven?
The point is that the omnipotent and omniscient God already knows the choice that man will make between good and evil so what is the point of anything, after all God already knows those to inhabit heaven and those to inhabit hell. If he does not know or is not sure then he can not be God, for one of the attributes of God is that he is all knowing.
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Dantedasz: The point is that the Bible potrays God as possessing the attribute of omniscience. God has complete and unlimited infinite knowledge and total awareness of everything. Nothing can be hidden from God.
If we take the above definition as true, how can we say man is free? If man is not free then how is man accountable for his actions/sins?
In my opinion, God has determined everything and any struggle by mankind to change anything is puny and an exercise in futility.

Kay 17: ^^

So why are you campaigning endlessly against hell?! When it is good

Kay 17: ^^
I'm still in my twenties, I'm not old.

Sylvekzee: man exists to creat things more powerful than him, even Gods.

TheMadame:
What is the relationship between God and Mankind? Why did God place man kind on this particular planet and not any other planet ? What really is the purpose of man to God in the world in relation to the creation stories in the holy texts(The Bible and The Koran)?
My questions stem from the fact that man appears to be a help less pawn in a chess game of forces more powerful than him. Man lives a life of strife that appears to terminate in death, and uncertainty.
What then is the purpose of life,if man is constantly involved in a life of strife between Good(God) and Evil(devil) of which the end is already predetermined by God.
Just thinking aloud.

Maximus69:


Contact Jehovah's Witnesses and ask for this book!

TheMadame:



Did you read the thread at all before jumping in advertising your book? I don't want copy and paste answers. I am asking you to relay your personal relationship with God and why man is on earth.
Is it just to worship God as someone has said? What is the relationship between freewill and determinism? Can man be free with an omniscient God? What is the relationship between morality and the bible? Can mankind be a moral being without the admonition of the bible?
So sir,I am not looking to buy a book. I seek for personal human answers. Thank you.

Maximus69:


The book is FREE and it has all the answers you seek, but if you've gotten the choice of answers you seek it's OK, your friends will attend to you Sir!

Thanks!

TheMadame:



Tell me what the book says in your own words.
Thank you madam. Your contribution is appreciated ma.

Maximus69:


Hmmmmmmmm Since 2013 seven years ago!

OK you may ask your questions one after the other and get the answer to each.

Please one at a time!

TheMadame:



Madam,
The questions are still as relevant as there were in 2013.
Go back to the OP and read the questions. Thank you ma.

Maximus69:


First of all Maximus69 is a man!

As i've said the book answered all your questions but let me address just two so if you're satisfied then you go get the book but if not then you continue on your search!

God is only self-existent, he had no beginning nor end of days, he created all things according to the book (Bible).

Of course most inquisitive people will ask "where did he come from?" just to be sure they're not been deluded with yet another common human fabrications. But as an intellectual i consider the pros and cons of all wind of teaching before i conclude on what to do.

Humans are the only intelligent creatures on the only planet with life (earth) and the book (Bible) said humans need God's guidance to coexist peacefully. Jeremiah 10:23
So if humans for thousands of years failed woefully to cultivate LOVE JOY and PEACE in our society, and the book said God will make it possible amongst his worshipers {Isaiah 2:2-4} i strongly believe the stage is set to unravel all these fairytales!

Let's see if that's going to be possible with the way mankind has been devastated with racism till now!

To my shocking surprise i found a religious group that has LOVE, JOY and PEACE permeating their midst during a time when HATRED, SADNESS and WAR is the order of the day!

TheMadame:



(1)Have you considered the point that this religious book,you keep on quoting,some people do not believe it to be the true words of God?
(2)Secondly how do you know for sure that Earth is the only planet inhabited by human forms?
(3)Has science visited all the discovered planets in the galaxy for you to conclude that Earth is the only planet with life forms?
(4)Why would a creator of such a vast galaxy of planets put life forms on only one planet so that the objective of this creator is for his creations to worship him/her in order to go to heaven?

And you talk of a creator just destroying his/her creations just like a petulant child that throws his/her toys out of a pram? I doubt if what you described can be the intellectual omniscient, omnipotent all wise creator of the universe.
This is why I told you I don't want cut and paste free books which you read and regurgitate on this forum. I want your personal brain process of the relationship between God and mankind.
NB:I know you are a man but do you know I am a woman? You refered to me as Sir first,so I referred to you as ma. No hard feelings.

TheMadame:
What is the relationship between God and Mankind? Why did God place man kind on this particular planet and not any other planet ? What really is the purpose of man to God in the world in relation to the creation stories in the holy texts(The Bible and The Koran)?
My questions stem from the fact that man appears to be a help less pawn in a chess game of forces more powerful than him. Man lives a life of strife that appears to terminate in death, and uncertainty.
What then is the purpose of life,if man is constantly involved in a life of strife between Good(God) and Evil(devil) of which the end is already predetermined by God.
Just thinking aloud.