talktimi: Unfortunately, Nigerian hospitals are now a sham (mostly) though there are some pretty good doctors & nurses

if not for the incapability of the Nigeria Health sector.... I dont see any reason why a nurse shoud do with drug, they are suppose to take permission from a pharm even before giving a patient injection.... A doctor is suppose to specialise in his own aspect.... 60% of the patients today are suppose to visit a consulting pharm not a doctor... Only those with complicated issue may be reffered to a doctor i.e those that might require operation... But in Nigeria today... The doctors and Nurse are trying to be smart by playing a role of a pharmacist which is very vey bad..... Well, i just pray everything work out well very soon...

Incrizz: Lol
Who's Dr Joshua?

he knws himself, he disgraces doctors on NL, so, shud incase he comes and talks diminutely, jst knw it is his lifestyle and not doctors' lifestyle.

I can prove every claim I have made here beyond reasonable doubt!

thorpido: I know you're upset but you can't prove what you wrote up here.These are just mere speculations.

most govt nurses are TERRIBLE!

texazzpete:


There are terrible nurses. it doesn't mean that ALL or MOST nurses are terrible. If you think it's a 'general opinion', revise it.
I could regale you with tales of bad tailors, mechanics, Pastors, drivers, mothers, fathers...it doesn't mean ALL or MOST are terrible.

Tommybob: why wont they administer wrong drugs, when they are taking up the job of a pharm? Smh for them.... This is just the beginning.... Let the pharm do their job..

You're obviously very ignorant, even a pharmacist that knows his onions will agree with me. Pray tell, why does drug commercials always say "if symptoms do not abate in 2 days, pls consult your physician" or why do drug dispensary manuals always have the caveat "prescription is subject to the physician's decision" on the first pages? Oh, I get it. To you, a physician is also a pharmacist, right? Carry on, smart boy!

talktimi: Unfortunately, Nigerian hospitals are now a sham (mostly) though there are some pretty good doctors & nurses

Unfortunately as true as Nigerian universities have now become glorified high schools even with the efficient manpower it has, all because of decrepit structures, obsolete equipments resulting from government neglect over time. Majority in this thread will agree to this, including the poster that claimed a doctor refused admission due to LACK of bed - mind you if the patient had been admitted on the floor by the doctor (an apparently inhumane and unsightly state for a human being) - this same poster would have still come to this forum and accuse the doctor of being wicked enough to "admit his patient on the floor". Someone who'll also agree is the dude who claimed his patient was referred to another private hospital due to lack of beds in the public hospital - even though he has the privilege that the pregnant woman did not have of being directed to an alternative place of assured clinical expertise - a "concerned and humane" handling that still did not stop him from hurling insults at these people. However I can guarantee you that if the health workers were to declare strike in that sector in a bid to force the government to upgrade public hospital facilities for the sake of all the accusers on this forum, you can be assured that within 24hrs of the strike, the pummelling and blows from the "accusers" will turn to be directed towards the doctors, nurses, and other members of the health team. It's then you'll start to hear mantras like "they're just acting like they're gods", "they too like money", "they should go back to managing the few equipments they have joor, afterall they're trained to save lives". And your government, knowing how nigerians are wired, and capitalising on those, not-well-thought-out, sentiment and hatred-driven mantras, will take it from there and start their own trademark mantra of "Please think of your patients and get back to work". But never, never will they talk about addressing the problems that warranted the strike in the first place. The decay and the decrepitude therefore continues.

Meanwhile, all I've seen here are people waiting for the slightest chance to hurl stones at the doctors and the nurses akin to what those relatives did, however unjustified such actions may be. They have never really paused to think of those who have lost their lives in the line of duty, people like doctors, nurses and lab scientists that lost their lives when they contracted lassa virus from treating patients during the last outbreak, people like the doctor who in the line of duty was killed by insurgents in the north few months ago, or is it the hundreds living with, or dying from infections like HIV, hepatitis contracted from caring the patients under their care. I just can't make out why some Nigerians passionately hate and vilify these guys so much.

Tommybob: if not for the incapability of the Nigeria Health sector.... I dont see any reason why a nurse shoud do with drug, they are suppose to take permission from a pharm even before giving a patient injection.... A doctor is suppose to specialise in his own aspect.... 60% of the patients today are suppose to visit a consulting pharm not a doctor... Only those with complicated issue may be reffered to a doctor i.e those that might require operation... But in Nigeria today... The doctors and Nurse are trying to be smart by playing a role of a pharmacist which is very vey bad..... Well, i just pray everything work out well very soon...

A consultant Pharmacist given drugs to the patient? Or advising the Drs on the prescribed medications? This is a new thing world over.

ziccoit:

A consultant Pharmacist given drugs to the patient? Or advising the Drs on the prescribed medications? This is a new thing world over.

Well, this country is known for promoting mediocrity. Hence a reason why someone will be comfortably vociferous about changing doctors' prescription to "pharmacists' prescription". And probably it's the pharmacists that now stay in the ward monitoring the patients to know how effective the medications work to know when to apply the clinical acumen. Or maybe the nurses and doctors wil wait for the pharmacist's prescription giving a go ahead to administering rescucitative medications to a patient in the brink of shock or one having a cardiac. Oh no, this is gonna be interesting. At least the relatives' beating will no more be restricted or at best, it'll be shifted from the doctors and nurses to the pharmacist. So bring it on joor!!!

Tommybob: if not for the incapability of the Nigeria Health sector.... I dont see any reason why a nurse shoud do with drug, they are suppose to take permission from a pharm even before giving a patient injection.... A doctor is suppose to specialise in his own aspect.... 60% of the patients today are suppose to visit a consulting pharm not a doctor... Only those with complicated issue may be reffered to a doctor i.e those that might require operation... But in Nigeria today... The doctors and Nurse are trying to be smart by playing a role of a pharmacist which is very vey bad..... Well, i just pray everything work out well very soon...

i dont see any reason why a nurse should tell patients relatives to go for drugs when they should be at hand at all times.

ceaser:
You're obviously very ignorant, even a pharmacist that knows his onions will agree with me. Pray tell, why does drug commercials always say "if symptoms do not abate in 2 days, pls consult your physician" or why do drug dispensary manuals always have the caveat "prescription is subject to the physician's decision" on the first pages? Oh, I get it. To you, a physician is also a pharmacist, right? Carry on, smart boy!


Unfortunately as true as Nigerian universities have now become glorified high schools even with the efficient manpower it has, all because of decrepit structures, obsolete equipments resulting from government neglect over time. Majority in this thread will agree to this, including the poster that claimed a doctor refused admission due to LACK of bed - mind you if the patient had been admitted on the floor by the doctor (an apparently inhumane and unsightly state for a human being) - this same poster would have still come to this forum and accuse the doctor of being wicked enough to "admit his patient on the floor". Someone who'll also agree is the dude who claimed his patient was referred to another private hospital due to lack of beds in the public hospital - even though he has the privilege that the pregnant woman did not have of being directed to an alternative place of assured clinical expertise - a "concerned and humane" handling that still did not stop him from hurling insults at these people. However I can guarantee you that if the health workers were to declare strike in that sector in a bid to force the government to upgrade public hospital facilities for the sake of all the accusers on this forum, you can be assured that within 24hrs of the strike, the pummelling and blows from the "accusers" will turn to be directed towards the doctors, nurses, and other members of the health team. It's then you'll start to hear mantras like "they're just acting like they're gods", "they too like money", "they should go back to managing the few equipments they have joor, afterall they're trained to save lives". And your government, knowing how nigerians are wired, and capitalising on those, not-well-thought-out, sentiment and hatred-driven mantras, will take it from there and start their own trademark mantra of "Please think of your patients and get back to work". But never, never will they talk about addressing the problems that warranted the strike in the first place. The decay and the decrepitude therefore continues.

Meanwhile, all I've seen here are people waiting for the slightest chance to hurl stones at the doctors and the nurses akin to what those relatives did, however unjustified such actions may be. They have never really paused to think of those who have lost their lives in the line of duty, people like doctors, nurses and lab scientists that lost their lives when they contracted lassa virus from treating patients during the last outbreak, people like the doctor who in the line of duty was killed by insurgents in the north few months ago, or is it the hundreds living with, or dying from infections like HIV, hepatitis contracted from caring the patients under their care. I just can't make out why some Nigerians passionately hate and vilify these guys so much.

i wasnt angry because the dr refused to admit the lady on the hospital floor, i was only angry because the dr refused to offer any form of first aid to stabilize her at least bearing in mind she was at an advanced state of pregnancy. You know very well that many of our medical practitioners have behaviors bothering on demonic at best while there are obviously the very humane ones. I have witnessed a situation where a man brought his son to a private clinic in a critical condition at night, the nurses assured the man that the dr would soon arrive to commence treatment etc not even paracetamol was given to the boy to stabilize his temperature by the nurses with the dr not even coming till day break by which time the angry father had decided he was tired with that nonsense situation and had to pass his son over a fence as the nurses demanded 27k from him for doing absolutely nothing. The dr had to hide his face in shame when he saw the commotion by the time he arrived the question being what if the boy died at night ?

Samgreguc:
eihyaaa.... Seems unbelievable of a doctor, though dr Joshua can do such.

hahahahahahahaha, Dr Josh oo. That guy eh

talktimi: i wasnt angry because the dr refused to admit the lady on the hospital floor, i was only angry because the dr refused to offer any form of first aid to stabilize her at least bearing in mind she was at an advanced state of pregnancy. You know very well that many of our medical practitioners have behaviors bothering on demonic at best while there are obviously the very humane ones. I have witnessed a situation where a man brought his son to a private clinic in a critical condition at night, the nurses assured the man that the dr would soon arrive to commence treatment etc not even paracetamol was given to the boy to stabilize his temperature by the nurses with the dr not even coming till day break by which time the angry father had decided he was tired with that nonsense situation and had to pass his son over a fence as the nurses demanded 27k from him for doing absolutely nothing. The dr had to hide his face in shame when he saw the commotion by the time he arrived the question being what if the boy died at night ?

mission private hospitals are much better though.

Raymondenyi:

Shut up young maan, do not sspill trash that u don'tknow, n do not aact like the foolish, babrbaric n ignorant relatives, did u even read the post?

The laady had a terminal illness(liver failuree) n 4 ur information cases of CLD(chronic liver disease) has a very bleak prognosis! Peopple almost never survives it, n to add salt to injury, the lady in question has been in a "faith based home" (meaning she has been in those ur hopeless dubious churches,for months being milked of d little dey had) nd when d situation was outta control dey saw d need 2 rush to d hospital,just a day pprior to her pass- on expecting a miracle... That dia "faith based home" couldn't perform....

Young man it won't cause u anything to take ur tym read n comprehend! N not spewing trash n displaying ur foolery on a public forum. Thank you...

Your comprehension of what the guy you quoted wrote is very very poor



UBTH almost killed my mom before my elder ones took her New York for treatment. She had diabetes so they told her not to eat a lot of food like yam, eba, too much rice, and so on because food like that can lead to increase of her sugar level. When she got to NY, after series of test on her they quickly ordered for candies(sugar) for her to eat



A doctor in LUTH told one lady that her baby inside her was dead that they need to induce her to get the dead baby out but the husband who didn't feel good about it quickly took her to one clinic around Island and behold the baby came out alive. Both the baby and the mother are doing fine.



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ziccoit:

A consultant Pharmacist given drugs to the patient? Or advising the Drs on the prescribed medications? This is a new thing world over.

dnt misinterpret my post....


Wat ceaser or wateva wrote up there is totally out of what i wrote...xo, who is talking abt "see ur physician" ish here..... Well i wnt waste my time here.... *unfollows thread* #smh for those who misinterpret quote ol bcoz of the ignorance in them

texazzpete:


There are terrible nurses. it doesn't mean that ALL or MOST nurses are terrible. If you think it's a 'general opinion', revise it.
I could regale you with tales of bad tailors, mechanics, Pastors, drivers, mothers, fathers...it doesn't mean ALL or MOST are terrible.

My question was why this particular nurse was singled out and attacked. Was she only nurse in the facility? Was she the only one that attended to the patient? Even if she gave the patient medication or injection that lead to her demise, was she not following doctors orders. So question we should be asking ourselves should be; WHY EXACTLY WAS SHE ATTACKED ALONE?. Could it be the poor attitude public hospital nurses are known for that led to her waterloo? Most times I look at scenarios and like this and examine it from both angles. Imagine a grieving family are still coming to terms with their loss and a nurse is still being rude. What kind of reaction do you expect from them?

@Dr young and prettyprettynow, I'm in no way attacking your colleagues. Try and think outside the box and play devil's advocate once a while. I will never support violence but I also know, there's no fire without smoke.

Nigerian nurses are the rudest set of humans in the planet, they are d exact opposite of their counterparts outside the country. I work with them everyday so I know what am saying. Dominique is not wrong so leave her alone. The latest happening in our theatres now is nursing looking for ways to pick fights with doctors and it happens daily even with no obvious provocation. Its appalling but I feel their education and educators are poor. Their teacher teach them the wrong set of values and brainwash them into thinking they are extraordinary and should be worshipped. Few doctors are ill-mannered but almost all Nigerian nurses are inhumane, callous, pompous and heartless, always seeing most patients as less than humans. Their are jobs are quite easy as it is on a shift bases having morning afternoon and night duties and they have 2weeks off every month, most of them end up looking obese and formless from inactivity, yet they feel the world owe them an obligation. Plss again no one should mention Dominiques names she's done no wrong and she's even raising awareness so some could have a change of heart.

Go to the wards and seek patients opinion about the nurses and u'll be surprised. Dat lady was beaten up for ill manners and whether she goes to court or not she will loose, she'll just lucky to come out alive without serious complications.

Colleagues ?.. more like coworkers.

Hahahadhaha, you came late Joshua.

dr_joshua2000: Nigerian nurses are the rudest set of humans in the planet, they are d exact opposite of their counterparts outside the country. I work with them everyday so I know what am saying. Dominique is not wrong so leave her alone. The latest happening in our theatres now is nursing looking for ways to pick fights with doctors and it happens daily even with no obvious provocation. Its appalling but I feel their education and educators are poor. Their teacher teach them the wrong set of values and brainwash them into thinking they are extraordinary and should be worshipped. Few doctors are ill-mannered but almost all Nigerian nurses are inhumane, callous, pompous and heartless, always seeing most patients as less than humans. Their are jobs are quite easy as it is on a shift bases having morning afternoon and night duties and they have 2weeks off every month, most of them end up looking obese and formless from inactivity, yet they feel the world owe them an obligation. Plss again no one should mention Dominiques names she's done no wrong and she's even raising awareness so some could have a change of heart.

good thing has never come out from you before, not surprised.
Always sounding bitter.

Truth is always bitter!

#me@:

good thing has never come out from you before, not surprised.
Always sounding bitter.

@Dr Joshua, let's not generalise pls. Some Nigerian nurses (especially in private hospitals) render impeccable services to patients. But for public hospital nurses, its a different story entirely. Imagine a patient obviously writhing in pain yet the nurses still kept him on the queue, his companion kept begging to be attended to but they were ignored. This I witnessed in one of my visits to gh. My friends that had their babies in general hospitals narrated their terrible experiences in the hands of these nurses. My curiosity on this topic is why this particular nurse was singled out. If the deceased's relatives were that irate, they would have taken out their irritation on different hospital personnel not one nurse.

smartchoice: Truth is always bitter!

yeah yeah

Dominique am talking about a government hospital. I work in an Federal hosp and all the matrons here are obese and very harsh. I mean all of them. Imagine teaching patients how to dress wounds and give IM injection for themselves, that's the nurses we have. Only the young ones are trying but I feel with time they'll change too once they can hook a gullible young doc. Private hospitals are better though.

sack all of them obese n harsh nurses!

dr_joshua2000: Dominique am talking about a government hospital. I work in an Federal hosp and all the matrons here are obese and very harsh. I mean all of them. Imagine teaching patients how to dress wounds and give IM injection for themselves, that's the nurses we have. Only the young ones are trying but I feel with time they'll change too once they can hook a gullible young doc. Private hospitals are better though.

^unfortunately he can't sack anybody hahahaha. That guy is so bitter, have read all his post...
When you meet nurses , doctors who are forced to be what they are, what do you expect. In Nigeria, the best service is gotten with money. Honestly working in public hospital will change you, you follow a sequence or protocol. I see myself changing cos in private hospit there are less hassles compared to public hosp where terminally ill, worst cases, mismanaged cases, people grasping at their last straw of life just name it......
If you can't take the heat back out, i choose a nursing specialty that has minimal contact with patients.... Anesthetist. I'd rather battle with my equipments and my unconcious patient than aggressive ones

Joanna Sedley: ^unfortunately he can't sack anybody hahahaha. That guy is so bitter, have read all his post...
When you meet nurses , doctors who are forced to be what they are, what do you expect. In Nigeria, the best service is gotten with money. Honestly working in public hospital will change you, you follow a sequence or protocol. I see myself changing cos in private hospit there are less hassles compared to public hosp where terminally ill, worst cases, mismanaged cases, people grasping at their last straw of life just name it......
If you can't take the heat back out, i choose a nursing specialty that has minimal contact with patients.... Anesthetist. I'd rather battle with my equipments and my unconcious patient than aggressive ones

Instead of you to repent you are busy giving excuses for you and your colleagues.

Repent for what? I wont try to justify or acknowlegde anything but nursing is one of the most emotionally tasking profession in existence.....name them.
I believe the nurse remarked on how they must have kept the woman for long without coming to the hospital early enough. I used to tell my students .....keep mum...even in most dire of all cases .. In death, chopped limbs, beheaded babies whatever better be the dumb nurse than appearing insultive but it is not selling because aggressive people always find fault with anything a nurse do. How about the protocols , policies if not followed accordingly you will be going home with half of your salary.
I am not cut out for any bullshits for anybody, i nursed for only one year and hop back to school to get out of the frustrating bedside nursing.

^^^I like you