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Thabo Mbeki’s Verdict On Nigerians by chux76(m): 4:42pm On Nov 24, 2013
FORMER South African President, Thabo Mbeki’s contention that ordinary Nigerians deserve as much blame as the politicians for the leadership failure in the country provides a valid platform for the re-evaluation of citizens’ role in governance in Nigeria. According to the man who took over the mantle of leadership from the great Nelson Mandela, it is only the citizens themselves that can put a stop to bad leadership. We agree.

Democracy’s efficacy and legitimacy are predicated on an informed citizenry; without active and knowledgeable citizens, democratic representation remains empty; without vigilant, informed citizens, there is no check on potential tyranny. Mbeki’s position quickly brings to mind the statement credited to a French historian and political thinker, Alexis de Tocqueville, that “in a democracy, the people get the government they deserve.” Given his background as an activist and freedom fighter, whose struggles helped to bring down the obnoxious apartheid system in his country, Mbeki certainly knows what it takes to put a government under pressure and compel it to do the bidding of the people, in whom lies ultimate sovereignty. This civic political culture is lacking in Nigeria at present.

But recent events in the Arab world, known as the Arab Spring, have clearly demonstrated what the people can do with power when they realise that it belongs to them, and is only held in trust on their behalf by politicians. Once the Arabs lost faith in the way they were being governed, they expressed their views very strongly and forced changes. The change of government that took place in Libya, Tunisia and Egypt was an inevitable capitulation to the will of the people, just in the same manner as the reforms that were introduced in Morocco.

This point has been made even more pointedly in Egypt where, after three decades of authoritarian rule, the government of Hosni Mubarak was unceremoniously brought to an end. Notably too, even his successor, Mohammed Morsi, was swept away in a gale of protests, barely a year after assuming office as the first democratically elected president of the country. To achieve this, the people were ready to put their lives on the line, confronting security agents and defying live bullets.

Unfortunately, here in Nigeria, nobody wants to put his life on the line. Apathy by the civil populace has meekly handed politicians and political office holders the freedom to steal the country blind and squander its resources in a manner, perhaps, unheard of in the annals of the country. It is difficult to think of a country where over N2 trillion spent in the name of subsidy has not been properly accounted for; yet, nobody is behind bars two years after. It is unimaginable that in a country that professes the rule of law, billions of naira belonging to pensioners could vanish into thin air and nobody is made to account for it.

Indeed, it is still difficult to fathom how over 100 security agents could be murdered in cold blood while on official duty and the killers still prance around unmolested. It is perhaps only in Nigeria that a minister would authorise the purchase of two extra cars, apart from her other official vehicles, for N255 million. To think that this is happening at a time when a minister was given the boot in Ghana for merely expressing her desire to acquire up to $1 million through politics only reinforces the extent to which Nigerians are docile and satisfied with the kind of government that they have. The Nigerian minister in question is still in office.

It is not just under the current government, governments in Nigeria have always acted as if they exist in a different planet and owe the electorate neither explanations for their actions, nor effective service delivery. Yet, when the time comes to make a change through the ballot box, it is either the same villains are returned to power or they rig themselves back, regardless of what the ballot says.

In Nigeria, it appears nothing can provoke the people into demanding accountability from political office holders. Things that would jolt a government in any other clime go unnoticed in the country. For instance, how does one explain the continued deterioration in the quality of infrastructure amidst an endless flow of money from the sale of crude oil? How can the decline in the quality of education and health care delivery be explained in view of the amount that accrues to the country from the crude oil sale? It is in this same country that a government came to office when the price of oil was $18 per barrel was able to pay off the country’s debt of over $30 billion and saved over $50 billion in foreign reserves and more than $20 billion in Excess Crude Account. But the country is now accumulating debts, even when the price of oil in the international market has remained largely above $100 pb in the past six years. Yet, Nigerians are not asking questions and are so enfeebled that their views, when expressed, don’t count.

A major factor has been the role of ethnicity and religion in the way people perceive issues in the country. Once a person offends the law and is about to be brought to justice, there will be shameless protests from his kith and kin, claiming victimisation on account of the person’s ethnic origin. This blackmail has worked in many cases, including the corruption case of a former Delta State Governor, James Ibori, and it is currently being put to test in the ongoing bulletproof cars purchase scandal involving the Minister of Aviation, Stella Oduah.

Making democracy work, says the National Democratic Institute, a United States-based non-profit organisation, requires informed and active citizens who understand how to voice their interests, act collectively and hold public officials accountable. Democracy’s credibility and sustainability depends, to an important degree, on how it works in practice, and on what it delivers. As Mbeki puts it, bad governments thrive in Nigeria, or elsewhere for that matter, because “the leadership does not feel pressure from the people.” It therefore follows that if Nigerians desire the dividends of democracy, they will have to fight for it. They must decide whether to continue with the way they are being governed or become active in demanding transparency and accountability from government.

http://www.punchng.com/editorial/mbekis-damning-verdict-on-nigerians/

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Re: Thabo Mbeki’s Verdict On Nigerians by EdDave(m): 5:36pm On Nov 24, 2013
A nation deserves the leaders it gets. -Quote.

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Re: Thabo Mbeki’s Verdict On Nigerians by Nobody: 5:42pm On Nov 24, 2013
I am speechless. Nigerians deserve what they get in return from their government. Jonathan has been a failure. May God work on your life the same way Jonathan and PDP are working on Nigeria's affairs if you disagree with this prayer.

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Re: Thabo Mbeki’s Verdict On Nigerians by gramci: 5:56pm On Nov 24, 2013
payless: I am speechless. Nigerians deserve what they get in return from their government. Jonathan has been a failure. May God work on your life the same way Jonathan and PDP are working on Nigeria's affairs if you disagree with this prayer.

God is already working on your life the way Tinubu and Buhari did on Nigeria.

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Re: Thabo Mbeki’s Verdict On Nigerians by Nobody: 6:02pm On Nov 24, 2013
Mbeki sure knows nigeria expecially from his surulere years. 2015 goes wrong and I am done with Nigeria.

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Re: Thabo Mbeki’s Verdict On Nigerians by Nobody: 6:03pm On Nov 24, 2013
gramci:

God is already working on your life the way Tinubu and Buhari did on Nigeria.
when did tinubu contest for presidency ? abi lagos dn become nigeria? silly bigot.

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Re: Thabo Mbeki’s Verdict On Nigerians by Nobody: 6:09pm On Nov 24, 2013
payless: I am speechless. Nigerians deserve what they get in return from their government. Jonathan has been a failure. May God work on your life the same way Jonathan and PDP are working on Nigeria's affairs if you disagree with this prayer.

Not only Jonathan. The national assembly is a den of robbers, what they pay themselves for doing nothing is an insult to all Nigerians.

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Re: Thabo Mbeki’s Verdict On Nigerians by gramci: 6:16pm On Nov 24, 2013
Tadon200:
when did tinubu contest for presidency ? abi lagos dn become nigeria? silly bigot.


your stupidity will go unnoticed

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Re: Thabo Mbeki’s Verdict On Nigerians by gramci: 6:17pm On Nov 24, 2013
Aigbofa:

Not only Jonathan. The national assembly is a den of robbers, what they pay themselves for doing nothing is an insult to all Nigerians.


we still have progressives there grin
Re: Thabo Mbeki’s Verdict On Nigerians by Nobody: 6:20pm On Nov 24, 2013
Apart from the fact that Nigerians are docile, corrupt and scared of change, they are also pathetic liars and self-deciets--- they see nothing wrong in lying to themselves and others. Why do I say this? Pls, let's face the truth, truth is the Igbos are the main people encouraging the current corrupt government to do as it wishes. This is the bottom line. Yesterday, it was the North encouraging their sons to plunder the country as they wish, today it is the East. If Govt doesn't feel pressure from every angle of the country they will never do whats right.

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Re: Thabo Mbeki’s Verdict On Nigerians by Nobody: 6:23pm On Nov 24, 2013
A wise man have spoken. It is left for the foolish ones to listen.

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Re: Thabo Mbeki’s Verdict On Nigerians by jmaine: 6:46pm On Nov 24, 2013
berem: A wise man have spoken. It is left for the foolish ones to listen.

So when are you going to take the bull by the horn and lead a revolutionary protest.

If you shy away, then consider yourself one of those foolish ones . . . . .

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Re: Thabo Mbeki’s Verdict On Nigerians by Nobody: 6:51pm On Nov 24, 2013
jmaine:

So when are you going to take the bull by the horn and lead a revolutionary protest.

If you shy away, then consider yourself one of those foolish ones . . . . .
it is certain Thabo Mbeki was referring to you and "others". You and others are the reason why Nigeria still remains what it is today. Search your conscience dude, yes you!!

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Re: Thabo Mbeki’s Verdict On Nigerians by Nobody: 7:02pm On Nov 24, 2013
Even a thread like this that should lead to soul-searching has already led to finger pointing instead.
Instead of us looking inwards and examining ourselves, some self-righteous hypocrites have started laying the blame on one another forgetting themselves. One donkey couldnt even hide his stupidity as usual. He has tribalised the thread already thereby alienating some people that could have agreed with some of his valid points. I expect this discourse to go south from hence.
SMH. We are truly our own worst enemies.

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Re: Thabo Mbeki’s Verdict On Nigerians by jmaine: 7:11pm On Nov 24, 2013
berem: it is certain Thabo Mbeki was referring to you and "others". You and others are the reason why Nigeria still remains what it is today. Search your conscience dude, yes you!!

The usual response in favour of pretenders who shy away from the obvious. Read below and tell me if it didn't capture supposed "fools" like you mentioned .

To achieve this, the people were ready to put their lives on the line, confronting security agents and defying live bullets.
Unfortunately, here in Nigeria, nobody wants to put his life on the line. Apathy by the civil populace has meekly handed politicians and political office holders the freedom to steal the country blind and squander its resources in a manner, perhaps, unheard of in the annals of the country.

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Re: Thabo Mbeki’s Verdict On Nigerians by Nobody: 7:12pm On Nov 24, 2013
gramci:

God is already working on your life the way Tinubu and Buhari did on Nigeria.

Guy..u shld hav jst said amen na

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Re: Thabo Mbeki’s Verdict On Nigerians by jmaine: 7:13pm On Nov 24, 2013
PhenomenonVFX: Even a thread like this that should lead to soul-searching has already led to finger pointing instead.
Instead of us looking inwards and examining ourselves, some self-righteous hypocrites have started laying the blame on one another forgetting themselves. One donkey couldnt even hide his stupidity as usual. He has tribalised the thread already thereby alienating some people that could have agreed with some of his valid points. I expect this discourse to go south from hence.
SMH. We are truly our own worst enemies.

Thank you !!

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Re: Thabo Mbeki’s Verdict On Nigerians by Nobody: 7:17pm On Nov 24, 2013
See...an outsider telling us the hard truth..yet..we are here pickn fights and name callings...SMH

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Re: Thabo Mbeki’s Verdict On Nigerians by Nobody: 7:20pm On Nov 24, 2013
jmaine:

The usual response in favour of pretenders who shy away from the obvious. Read below and tell me if it didn't capture supposed "fools" like you mentioned .

I am not ready to start any silly argument with you. I didn't refer to anyone in my first post before you quoted me. Just cut me some slacks please and let me be. angry

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Re: Thabo Mbeki’s Verdict On Nigerians by jmaine: 7:43pm On Nov 24, 2013
berem: I am not ready to start any silly argument with you. I didn't refer to anyone in my first post before you quoted me. Just cut me some slacks please and let me be. angry

Next time, be careful when you seek to make sweeping snide remarks cos it may involve you.

Be guided . . . . cool

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Re: Thabo Mbeki’s Verdict On Nigerians by Nobody: 7:50pm On Nov 24, 2013
jmaine:

Next time, be careful when you seek to make sweeping snide remarks cos it may involve you.

Be guided . . . . cool
na you sabi!
Re: Thabo Mbeki’s Verdict On Nigerians by Nobody: 8:04pm On Nov 24, 2013
Isn't it interesting that outsiders can see everything wrong with Nigeria, yet Nigerians seem to be blind?

Well, it's just like living in a stuffy and smelly house. Whoever lives in a such a place won't be able to smell the putrid odour, because of being used to it. However, outsiders would be able smell it within 2 secs of being there. That's the case of Nigeria.

A country in shambles, yet most Nigerians have a chip on their shoulders. Laughing stock of world due to being perennial non-achievers, yet most Nigerians think that they're the best thing since slice bread and anyone that can't stand their backward mentality is presumed to be "jealous" of their non-achievements.

Nigerian state of mind = delusional state of mind.

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Re: Thabo Mbeki’s Verdict On Nigerians by Nobody: 8:05pm On Nov 24, 2013
Rivers of Blood coming to a cinema close to you.

I can see blood!!

Pray for rain!! cool

Hotep!

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Re: Thabo Mbeki’s Verdict On Nigerians by Ngwakwe: 8:38pm On Nov 24, 2013
What have you done to resist corruption?

What price have you paid to change the status quo?

What comes first in your life: Self against Merit or the reverse?

What is your meaning of Success: Wealth by any means or Average Lifestyle with Integrity intact?

Do you accept gratification to do the work you are contracted?

Can you resign or accept to suffer for upholding the truth?

Will you prefer to remain unemployed than to cut corners against better candidates?

Will you stop your journey to withstand corrupt uniform men on our highways?

Have you shared your scarce resources to sustain the persecuted?

Do you prefer to live above your means to satisfy your friends for pride's sake?

Can you testify against your Parents or Siblings during prosecution?


Let's think on these things

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Re: Thabo Mbeki’s Verdict On Nigerians by soilsista(f): 8:44pm On Nov 24, 2013
My President has spoken!

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Re: Thabo Mbeki’s Verdict On Nigerians by chux76(m): 9:24pm On Nov 24, 2013
The BIG QUESTION is this,what are we going to do about it? We need to come together as one voice,one people and not just speak out but DO SOMETHING about it,where lies the future of our unborn generation?? cry cry cry

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Re: Thabo Mbeki’s Verdict On Nigerians by MeAboki(m): 9:26pm On Nov 24, 2013
Completely true, we get what we deserve; if you like continue voting PDP and Odechukwu along with their smelly fresh air; but later don't blame anybody but yourself.

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Re: Thabo Mbeki’s Verdict On Nigerians by gerald09(m): 10:18pm On Nov 24, 2013
kingoflag: Apart from the fact that Nigerians are docile, corrupt and scared of change, they are also pathetic liars and self-deciets--- they see nothing wrong in lying to themselves and others. Why do I say this? Pls, let's face the truth, truth is the Igbos are the main people encouraging the current corrupt government to do as it wishes. This is the bottom line. Yesterday, it was the North encouraging their sons to plunder the country as they wish, today it is the East. If Govt doesn't feel pressure from every angle of the country they will never do whats right.
Dude really! Is it dat bad that u can't even make an argument without the tribal BS. All u see is tribe hate yet every single part of Nigeria has failed including the region u blindly see as d best. What will u tell a child when ask y u made dis statement? So if I may ask politely during OBJ tenure which part encouraged his plunder?

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Re: Thabo Mbeki’s Verdict On Nigerians by gramci: 10:41pm On Nov 24, 2013
A.jeez:


Guy..u shld hav jst said amen na

them zip your mouth?
Re: Thabo Mbeki’s Verdict On Nigerians by oderemo(m): 10:49pm On Nov 24, 2013
kingoflag: Apart from the fact that Nigerians are docile, corrupt and scared of change, they are also pathetic liars and self-deciets--- they see nothing wrong in lying to themselves and others. Why do I say this? Pls, let's face the truth, truth is the Igbos are the main people encouraging the current corrupt government to do as it wishes. This is the bottom line. Yesterday, it was the North encouraging their sons to plunder the country as they wish, today it is the East. If Govt doesn't feel pressure from every angle of the country they will never do whats right.
Y don't you look at your backyard first, the local govt, na outsider be
Your local chairman. Guy stop bulls/hit men.

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Re: Thabo Mbeki’s Verdict On Nigerians by Nobody: 11:46pm On Nov 24, 2013
gerald09:
Dude really! Is it dat bad that u can't even make an argument without the tribal BS. All u see is tribe hate yet every single part of Nigeria has failed including the region u blindly see as d best. What will u tell a child when ask y u made dis statement? So if I may ask politely during OBJ tenure which part encouraged his plunder?
Thats the problem with you clowns like I said---- ure so deceitful and hate the truth u don't mind lying to outsiders,as well as urselves.

Tribalism? Because I spoke the truth? Are Igbos not vocally 100% behind this thieving govt? Were Northerners not behind Yar Adua? Ok, then. Is any Northerner crying over my truthful allegation? So, why do u choose to cry at the truth?

You ask about OBJs tenure. Well, pardna, I didn't give 2 fuxcks about Nigerian affairs back then,but from the little I've read his fellow Yorubas were his biggest antagonists while he garnered much of his support from the North and part of the East because he gave their "sons" and "daughters" juicy posts in his govt.

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Re: Thabo Mbeki’s Verdict On Nigerians by Nobody: 11:47pm On Nov 24, 2013
ode remo:
Y don't you look at your backyard first, the local govt, na outsider be
Your local chairman. Guy stop bulls/hit men.
what is a local chairman?

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