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Re: A Muslim's View Of The Ban On Alcohol In Kano State by Logicbwoy: 1:41pm On Dec 02, 2013 |
BetaThings: You and vedaxcool have become something else. Dubious to the core in your comments. There is no need to talk about christianity on this thread or in a reply to Tiarabubus comment. The fact remains that the destruction of the bottles of alcohol is wrong. Tbaba and his minions are trying to spin the issue to talk about location and sharia areas. Why not just send the truck back to a place where drinking is allowed. The argument about location is false. The truck won't deposit the crates of beer in a muslim's house....it would have been going to a bar or depot....and they weren't selling from the truck to pesdestrians.......none of the reports state that. All I see is hypocrisy....where the same muslims that were up in arms about the banning of hijab are here using style to support this intolerance 7 Likes |
Re: A Muslim's View Of The Ban On Alcohol In Kano State by vedaxcool(m): 2:39pm On Dec 02, 2013 |
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Re: A Muslim's View Of The Ban On Alcohol In Kano State by BetaThings: 6:18pm On Dec 02, 2013 |
Logicbwoy: You and vedaxcool have become something else. Dubious to the core in your comments. Actually what you think does not matter in the LEAST. It does not matter either way. I mean this ABSOLUTELY You have never commended anyone unless he/she is critical of Islam Anyway Muslims will not compromise - NO to f.a.g.g.ot.ry 8 Likes |
Re: A Muslim's View Of The Ban On Alcohol In Kano State by Logicbwoy: 7:35pm On Dec 02, 2013 |
BetaThings: Wow....such a mature and sensible reply. First of all, the issue is about alcohol n sharia. Secondly, you are mistaken if you think that I am gay. Thirdly 'fa.ggot' is a demeaning term towards gays. It is a sign of bigotry. 4 Likes |
Re: A Muslim's View Of The Ban On Alcohol In Kano State by Nobody: 7:52pm On Dec 02, 2013 |
BetaThings:Lol 1 Like |
Re: A Muslim's View Of The Ban On Alcohol In Kano State by Logicbwoy: 7:57pm On Dec 02, 2013 |
How ironic.......a judas on the islam section. Smh |
Re: A Muslim's View Of The Ban On Alcohol In Kano State by vedaxcool(m): 8:09pm On Dec 02, 2013 |
aManFromMars: Abeg make unah no give my pikin high BP oh, we never recoup the investment wey we put for im education! |
Re: A Muslim's View Of The Ban On Alcohol In Kano State by tiarabubu: 10:48pm On Dec 02, 2013 |
BetaThings: Unfortunately, you are not a very good debater that is why I seldom reply you. In your haste to reply you very easily lose context, focus and synergy. I will make an exception today and give a short reply for the sake of your minions. And by the way, the answer to Muslim's missteps is not "Non-Muslims did it too" or "Non-Muslims caused it". Unfortunately, comparing the biased action of a University with that of a whole State like kano confirms your lack of ability to balance an argument. Unfortunately for you, what you are saying this has been a reoccuring complaint of the Non-Muslim community in places like UDU and even KSU. It is no qualms for Kastina state to build 34 of Mosques with government funds (over a quarter of a billion naira) while some of its citizens are non-muslims and it has more pressing socioeconomic problems! But I let it be so you go figure. The resistance to Islamic banking was about the CBN using government money to promote a bank that is based on religion. This was the reason for the opposition - e.g. setting up of "expert Council" within the CBN made up of Islamic Scholars, using CBN money to promote the bank etc. That was CAN's official position. Of course, others misunderstood, misinterpreted and of course even some Christians misunderstood CAN's official position. CAN's position carried the day as CBN allowed private individuals to fund the bank and did not carry out that misstep of using government money to spend on a religious based bank. And crucially, there were no burning of mosques and murders etc during the Islamic banking debate. As per your opposition to drinking, thats your problem. As bad as it is, as long as it is not illegal, you can only persuade people through education and reason not some brute force 16 century style of coercion. As per people not covering up... What is your idea of covering up? If a lady dresses normally and decently and you are still hot under the collar because of exposed hair or face, check yourself. Its your twisted perverted mind that is the problem and not the girl. As per the Christmas tree, you are joking right? When Muslims were at the helm and bought hundreds of goats and distributed during sallah at the government expense, who complained? Did you know the Minister of FCT and almost all northern governors distributed rams with government money too? Who protested? I was in Nigeria during the last Sallah and many major intersections in Abuja had large signboards proclaiming Sallah greetings from the MFCT, who protested? In fact I will stop here before I unwittingly become guilty of what I am accusing you of. Just know that Kano was wrong in that action, pure and simple. That action should be judged for what it is . Claiming non-muslims "actions" as the basis for the action is sooooo lame. 36 Likes |
Re: A Muslim's View Of The Ban On Alcohol In Kano State by Nobody: 4:09pm On Dec 03, 2013 |
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Re: A Muslim's View Of The Ban On Alcohol In Kano State by Logicbwoy: 4:49am On Dec 04, 2013 |
tiarabubu: It's enough, even the op (not Deols) sees their hypocrisy on this matter. Is this not the same section that allowed a thread claiming that Muhammad invented the toothbrush get to the front page? |
Re: A Muslim's View Of The Ban On Alcohol In Kano State by Nobody: 7:38am On Dec 04, 2013 |
Logicbwoy: How ironic.......a judas on the islam section. SmhA Christian women basher on the Islamic section. Amazing. Deols is Muslim, btw. Spare her your butthurt. Lol. Logicbwoy: How many times will it be drummed into your head that front page threads are picked by the super mods? It wouldn't matter to a troll anyway, trolling is a more effective method of getting things done the way you want. @all: The troll has been banned on the religion section, as usual. Try to accommodate him for a while. and be nice. 2 Likes |
Re: A Muslim's View Of The Ban On Alcohol In Kano State by Okijajuju1(m): 6:42pm On Dec 04, 2013 |
deols: Gimba Kakanda writes on facebook- [b]Men like this can never be Leaders in Islam.. The hearts/minds and brains of Nigerians (and prolly Africans) must be a really messed up place to be in. A governor of a State that caters for various peoples of different States, religion, ethinicity, beliefs, tradition, customs, e.t.c pass a law that favours one group and people applaud it. Now he has gained more followers by implementing a policy that really and truly adds no real benefit to their lives. The people who dorpped the bombs in his state in the past were not drunk. Infact, by Islamic tenets, they cant possibly be alcoholics nor drink alcohol at all. Kwankwaso should have people like this man in his cabinet as advisers so as to control his 'extremist policies'. He has forgotten that he is supposed to be leading both Muslims and all others in his state. How would Kwankwaso fill if other States of the federation pass laws that are anti-Islam or laws that makes it difficult for muslims to live in these states?! The problem with this country is not the government, but the people.. How did we allow these people become our rulers in the first place?! [/b] 4 Likes |
Re: A Muslim's View Of The Ban On Alcohol In Kano State by Nobody: 6:48pm On Dec 04, 2013 |
Logicbwoy: ^^^Says the banned troll. Banned for derailing, the irony. Okija_juju:My brother, e taya me. |
Re: A Muslim's View Of The Ban On Alcohol In Kano State by madnigerian: 6:48pm On Dec 04, 2013 |
From a public health viewpoint, banning alcohol has a lot of benefits......so the muslims may not be wrong in banning alcohol(I am a Christian BTW!) Alcohol is causally related to more than 60 different medical conditions. Overall, 4% of the global burden of disease is attributable to alcohol, which accounts for about as much death and disability globally as tobacco and hypertension. Treatment research shows that early intervention in primary care is feasible and effective, and a variety of behavioural and pharmacological interventions are available to treat alcohol dependence. This evidence suggests that treatment of alcohol-related problems should be incorporated into a public health response to alcohol problems. Additionally, evidence-based preventive measures are available at both the individual and population levels, with alcohol taxes, restrictions on alcohol availability, and drinking-driving countermeasures among the most effective policy options. SOURCE:http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/15705462 Alcoholism and alcohol abuse can increase your risk of many health problems, including: SOURCEhttp://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmedhealth/PMH0001940/: 2 Likes |
Re: A Muslim's View Of The Ban On Alcohol In Kano State by alphaconde(m): 6:50pm On Dec 04, 2013 |
Any one against alcohol is a bloody hypocrite. If alcohol is a sin then everything that we do that has one negative effect on our body or the other is a sin. For instance hard labour. 1 Like |
Re: A Muslim's View Of The Ban On Alcohol In Kano State by madnigerian: 6:53pm On Dec 04, 2013 |
alpha conde: Any one against alcohol is a bloody hypocrite. Well I am against alcohol for the following reasons....it can increase your risk of many health problems, including: Bleeding in the digestive tract Brain cell damage Brain disorder called Wernicke-Korsakoff syndrome Cancer of the esophagus, liver, colon, and other areas Changes in the menstrual cycle (period) Delirium tremens (DT's) Dementia and memory loss Depression and suicide Erectile dysfunction Heart damage High blood pressure Inflammation of the pancreas (pancreatitis) Liver disease, including cirrhosis Nerve damage Poor nutrition Sleeping problems (insomnia) Alcohol use also increases your risk for sexually transmitted infections (STIs) and violence. Drinking alcohol while you are pregnant can lead to severe birth defects in the baby. Source:[url]http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmedhealth/PMH0001940/ [/url] 2 Likes |
Re: A Muslim's View Of The Ban On Alcohol In Kano State by homesteady(m): 6:54pm On Dec 04, 2013 |
And the most annoying thing is that Na the hausa people dey drink am pass! Go to sabon gari any day, it is muslims that use to be more in all beer joints! 2 Likes |
Re: A Muslim's View Of The Ban On Alcohol In Kano State by mmimahbub(m): 7:04pm On Dec 04, 2013 |
uboma:Thinking beyond religion? Or deep into religion? Which are you referring to. Cos thinking beyond religion is like radicalism which causes all the wrong acts. |
Re: A Muslim's View Of The Ban On Alcohol In Kano State by abduldope(m): 7:04pm On Dec 04, 2013 |
mhn this GURL u fit go GOVt house talk this same thing Daht meAns ure TRULY dEEP! Bt saying it here wont chng anYtn i GUEss |
Re: A Muslim's View Of The Ban On Alcohol In Kano State by olabukola: 7:05pm On Dec 04, 2013 |
tbaba1234: Deols, what exactly do you agree with? If you decide to implement sharia in a region, one of the implications is that public drinking is banned.You are very very wrong here. Kano state is Kano state and everybody is free to stay wherever they want irrespective of religion. Unless you want to tell me that Kano is divided along religious affiliation. Again don't forget that the funds received by Kano state from federation account every month includes taxes accrued from selling of alcohols. So if the state don't want anything alcohol let them sieve the contribution made by alcohol tax from their monthly allowance. By doing so everybody will support them when next they carry out such act. Why wasting the damn beer when they can haul back to where it came from. |
Re: A Muslim's View Of The Ban On Alcohol In Kano State by alphaconde(m): 7:09pm On Dec 04, 2013 |
mad nigerian: Give me the disadvantages of using sugar excessively. So excessive sugar or alcohol or too much work all have one harm or the other to the body. So taking alcohol out and trashing it like a disease is what I don't like. There are other things that damage the man than alcohol does. As for me, am associated with alcohol. 1 Like |
Re: A Muslim's View Of The Ban On Alcohol In Kano State by madnigerian: 7:14pm On Dec 04, 2013 |
alpha conde: Obesity, diabetes, hypertension, tooth decay, organ damage, fatigue.... Better to avoid sugar , and alcohol and be like [url]Jack La Lanne.http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jack_lalanne[/url] I have answered your question....now answer mine.......can you refute the points I have raised ? With science? Alcoholisim has a bad effect on the body. Just ask people like Tony Adams(Arsenal and England player and captain 1983-2002). |
Re: A Muslim's View Of The Ban On Alcohol In Kano State by Nobody: 7:16pm On Dec 04, 2013 |
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Re: A Muslim's View Of The Ban On Alcohol In Kano State by Sissie(f): 7:17pm On Dec 04, 2013 |
alpha conde: You are comparing alcohol with sugar really!!!!!!! Alcohol does not only affect the drinker it affects others too, I.e the innocent bystander that gets killed by a drunk driver, the wife that gets molested, etc. The list is endless. Alcoholism is a disease and should be treated as one. One does not need to be religious to be anti-alcohol. 2 Likes |
Re: A Muslim's View Of The Ban On Alcohol In Kano State by mmimahbub(m): 7:19pm On Dec 04, 2013 |
[size=14pt]I find it confusing when Christians are struggling to support alcohol and they see anything against it as anti-christianity. It has gone to the extent of even comparing HIJAB in Islam with ALCOHOL in Christianity. Please somebody should clarify it for me...[/size] 1 Like |
Re: A Muslim's View Of The Ban On Alcohol In Kano State by Sissie(f): 7:23pm On Dec 04, 2013 |
mmi-mahbub: I find it amusing that people would compare the both, or think it's anti-Christianity. Supporting the ban of alcohol is not the same as being anti Christian, some Christians are of the view that alcohol is a sin. 1 Like |
Re: A Muslim's View Of The Ban On Alcohol In Kano State by madnigerian: 7:25pm On Dec 04, 2013 |
[quote author=Sissie] Sugar too does have some bad effects on the body......it has been implicated in the US' obesity epidemic. Once, as an experiment, I went off sugar for five months(except for the odd soft drink). I lost six kilos. Alcohol does not only affect the drinker it affects others too, I.e the innocent bystander that gets killed by a drunk driver, the wife that gets molested, etc. The list is endless. Alcoholism is a disease and should be treated as one. Precisely. And it affects the drinker too.....liver cirrhosis is a big problem in many liver patients in our hospitals...irreversible damage to the liver thanks to friend alcohol. One does not need to be religious to be anti-alcohol. Exactly. 1 Like |
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