cap28: The usual suspects involved in Nkrumah's removal:

Documents Expose U.S. Role in Nkrumah Overthrow


By Paul Lee
Special to SeeingBlack.com

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Declassified National Security Council and Central Intelligence Agency documents provide compelling, new evidence of United States government involvement in the 1966 overthrow of Ghanaian President Kwame Nkrumah.

The coup d'etat, organized by dissident army officers, toppled the Nkrumah government on Feb. 24, 1966 and was promptly hailed by Western governments, including the U.S.

The documents appear in a collection of diplomatic and intelligence memos, telegrams, and reports on Africa in Foreign Relations of the United States, the government's ongoing official history of American foreign policy.

Prepared by the State Department's Office of the Historian, the latest volumes reflect the overt diplomacy and covert actions of President Lyndon B. Johnson's administration from 1964-68. Though published in November 1999, what they reveal about U.S. complicity in the Ghana coup was only recently noted.

Allegations of American involvement in the putsche arose almost immediately because of the well-known hostility of the U.S. to Nkrumah's socialist orientation and pan-African activism.

Nkrumah, himself, implicated the U.S. in his overthrow, and warned other African nations about what he saw as an emerging pattern.

"An all-out offensive is being waged against the progressive, independent states," he wrote in Dark Days in Ghana, his 1969 account of the Ghana coup. "All that has been needed was a small force of disciplined men to seize the key points of the capital city and to arrest the existing political leadership."

"It has been one of the tasks of the C.I.A. and other similar organisations," he noted, "to discover these potential quislings and traitors in our midst, and to encourage them, by bribery and the promise of political power, to destroy the constitutional government of their countries."

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chucky234: Nkruma was partly fighting for his own interest and decided to enslave Ghanians when he finally got hold of power,he would have made Gold Coast his family property were it not for the coup.
4 years was enough for Madiba to hand over power to a new govt without having to go back on his promise,Nkrumah after spending 27yrs in prison wouldnt have given up power just yet but Madiba did.
Madiba's victory over apartheid had so many positive impact on the Africa continent, I think Madiba is the greatest of the two.

Quatermaine:
Oga, what is your point?

cap28:

My point is that Nkrumah was removed from power by the United States because of his long term goal to free Africans from european economic and mental enslavement.

Nkrumah coined the word "Neo-colonialism":

Neocolonialism (also Neo-colonialism) is the geopolitical practice of using capitalism, business globalization, and cultural imperialism to influence a country, in lieu of either direct military control or indirect political control, i.e. imperialism and hegemony.[1] The term neo-colonialism was coined by Ghanaian president Kwame Nkrumah, to describe the socio-economic and political control that can be exercised economically, linguistically, and culturally, whereby promotion of the culture of the neo-colonist country facilitates the cultural assimilation of the colonised people and thus opens the national economy to the multinational corporations of the neo-colonial country.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neocolonialism

trovert: I AGREE 100% MANDELA IS JUST SOUTHAFRICAN BLACK HEROE....MANDELA IS OVERHYPED ND OVERATED IN RELATION TO AFRICA

Quatermaine:
After he was removed, did He continue with his goal?.. Nope!.

And that makes him greater, bah?!

how does this help?

Okija_juju:


What the f|uck did Jesus do other than come to earth, piss off the Jews and the Romans, commited suicide and asked his followers to turn into pseudo cannibals to enter into his kingdom..


Please we are talking about real men who changed the course of history, not fairy tales..

JeffPhoenix: the words of an ignorant fool who hasnt learned anythin after readin through all the comments.... if you do not know abt Nkrumah just shut the Bleep up and let the scholars debate on it!!!... I respect Mandela and Nkrumah alot and therefore will not compare both of them as they are both Great Africans!! the reason why some people may say Mandela was greater might be cause they feel the situation in his country brought the brave out of him making him do all he did... he was courageous, strong enough to withstand time in prison ans still achieve his dream, Nkrumah was also jailed, released and did what he wanted to do but mind you... he was veeeery instrumental in the freedom of other african countries... he might have mismanaged our funds at a point but that will not cloud his good deeds!!!... The both of them were great men and would be celebrated for ever!!!!!!!

JeffPhoenix: the words of an ignorant fool who hasnt learned anythin after readin through all the comments.... if you do not know abt Nkrumah just shut the Bleep up and let the scholars debate on it!!!... I respect Mandela and Nkrumah alot and therefore will not compare both of them as they are both Great Africans!! the reason why some people may say Mandela was greater might be cause they feel the situation in his country brought the brave out of him making him do all he did... he was courageous, strong enough to withstand time in prison ans still achieve his dream, Nkrumah was also jailed, released and did what he wanted to do but mind you... he was veeeery instrumental in the freedom of other african countries... he might have mismanaged our funds at a point but that will not cloud his good deeds!!!... The both of them were great men and would be celebrated for ever!!!!!!!

Jamey Maxwell: Who the “F” iz Kwame Nkrumah?

chucky234: And where is this Ghanian akita anu crawled from, your Nkrumah was only pushed to the forefront because he was stealing Ghana's gold money to fund the trips of those negotiating with Europeans for independence.
You prolly knows nothing about the man called Zik of African and effort in helping the people of Gold Coast, your Nkrumah was an errand boy to Zik, go figure.
Its easier to negotiate with whitemen for freedom than fighting apartheid, Mandela and Lurther Martin King fought a similar fight and that is a fight for only the brave not power drunk men like Nkrumah.
Lurther and Malcom fought the whitemen for providing poor seperate hospitals,schools,libraries,markets and so on for the black race while they use the very best,that was the kind of fight Mandela and his follower fought.
Hope you stick that into your void brain, chronic goon.

sakaguchi: On a serious note, we are doing ourselves great disservice in trying to phatom out the best from these duo. Why? Is their not enough room for several Africans to stand as best in the podium of history.
I really don't know much about Nkrumah, my apologies but the little I know about him shows him to be a great leader albeit his not so pleasant end.
Secondly, the argument of the greatest african with these 2 as contenders would never surface in Tunisia, Morocco or Libya.
Let's call africa the black world. If that is true, then I will give the greatest africans to be :
W. E. B Du Bois
Nnamdi Azikwe
Desmond Tutu
Ahmadu Bello
Nelson Mandela
Kwame Nkrumah
Obafemi Awolowo
Robert Mugabe
Kamuzu Banda
Malcolm X
Martin Luther King
And all the the champions of the black race who paid the ultimate price for the struggle.



N.B this list is in no particular order.

PetroDolla2: I think you are the one talking with your aNuS. anuofia

cap28:

can you please stop spreading falsehoods about Nkrumah all over this thread and learn to debate with facts.

cap28: chucky 234 this is for you:

The Lies Of The Neo-Colonialists


by Duke Tagoe

The anti-Nkrumah pro-imperialists lobby in Ghana is once more up and making its usual ugly noises.

These anti-national and anti-progress groups of elite worshipping political hags continue to applaud the Central Intelligence Agency (CIA) and the MI5 of Britain for toppling the Nkrumah Government. We have no difficulty with their hatred of Nkrumah and their disdain for the liberation of the masses from poverty and exploitation but at the very least they must learn to respect the truth.

Even their Masters in London and Washington are more honest than they are. It is strange that at a time when the declassified documents of the CIA reveal that the coup against Nkrumah was plotted in Western Capitals and that the Ghanaian soldiers and politicians in Ghana make the false claim that Nkrumah was overthrown because he was a dictator.

As a fact the only reason for toppling the Nkrumah Government was that he and the Convention People’s Party stood in the way of the imperialist powers in their attempt to reduce Africans to hewers of wood and drawers of water.

In any case, the effort to devalue the work of the Osagyefo is futile and Nkrumah will continue to be celebrated from year to year.

http://www.ghanaweb.com/GhanaHomePage/features/artikel.php?ID=230973

mrrock: @Mikeapollo.
Thank you my brother. The real African hero is Kwame Nkrumah.
Nkrumah himself was the inspiration behind Mandela's struggle in the first place.

Ola def2: you ar a big F.O.O.L!!!

If you say so..

Who am I to argue with a reetard ..

ImHotep-X:
Who was the greatest African? This is very debatable. Also, we need to define Africa and what it actually means to be African. Africa itself is so vague and vast that trying to define the term in a myopic way would obfuscate what it actually means to be African, and exempt a lot of people. And like Zuma, the South African president said a few weeks ago: "There's no Africa/African." A few other African academics share the same sentiments. Perhaps, we need to start defining it as "black" - to make it all inconclusive.

So to call either Kwame Nkrumah or Nelson Mandela the greatest black person ever is a tad bit too generous IMO. However, we can debate who was more influential, more popular and more accomplished between the two icons. I'd say Kwame Nkrumah was more influential to the "African" cause since he was the face of anti-colonial struggle and he paved the way for everyone else. All the subsequent pan-Africanists came from his school of thought and they all studied him. But when it comes to popularity and accomplishment, as a black man, then no one is ever going to touch Nelson Mandela. If you want to use the creation of OAU as a yardstick to measure greatness, despite the non-achievements of the OAU - then Muammar Gaddafi also deserve to be in the conversation for creating the AU.

Personally, for the greatest black person ever - I would lean towards Malcolm X and Steven Biko since they both provided blueprints on how to solve the unique problems of the black race. However, they never really accomplished much while they were alive, so we can't really call none of them the greatest. But some might argue that Jesus also never really achieved much while he was on this planet, but most people believe he was the greatest that ever lived. That's an argument for another day.

All in all, I believe there's no greatest African/black person. They all contributed to black history and were icons.

Edited.

Hotep!

mrrock: @Quatermaine.
No, nobody inpired Nkrumah. Again, as @Mikeapollo stated Nkrmah founded the struggle. Before Nkrumah no other African have thought about going against the whites. Nkrumah gave birth to Mandela as far as the word FREEDOM concerned.