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"If You Believe The Earth Is 6000 Years Old Then You Deny Science" by OLAADEGBU(m): 12:04am On Dec 23, 2013
Someone said: "If you believe the earth is 6000 years old then you deny science."

Response:

If you believe the earth is millions or billions of years old, you "believe" science. You don't "know" the age of the earth. You "trust" what you've been told by fallible men and fallible dating processes. Your convictions rest entirely on faith. See www.EvolutionVsGod.com
Re: "If You Believe The Earth Is 6000 Years Old Then You Deny Science" by Ruq: 12:21am On Dec 23, 2013
So how old is earth ? 2013 yrs ? winktongue
Re: "If You Believe The Earth Is 6000 Years Old Then You Deny Science" by OLAADEGBU(m): 12:24am On Dec 23, 2013
Ruq:

So how old is earth ? 2013 yrs ? winktongue

How do you think we arrived at 2,013 years if you can tell? undecided
Re: "If You Believe The Earth Is 6000 Years Old Then You Deny Science" by Ruq: 12:28am On Dec 23, 2013
From 1 naah abi, someone must have started counting this far.
Re: "If You Believe The Earth Is 6000 Years Old Then You Deny Science" by OLAADEGBU(m): 12:36am On Dec 23, 2013
Ruq:

From 1 naah abi, someone must have started counting this far.

What happened before they started counting 1?
Re: "If You Believe The Earth Is 6000 Years Old Then You Deny Science" by lymelyte(m): 12:38am On Dec 23, 2013
Nobody know the age of the earth.na assumptions everybody dey..
Re: "If You Believe The Earth Is 6000 Years Old Then You Deny Science" by OLAADEGBU(m): 1:04am On Dec 23, 2013
Ken Ham of Answers in Genesis interviewed on his book: 'Six Days The Age of the Earth and The Decline of the Church' on Dove TV.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F37GXNq_LEw
Re: "If You Believe The Earth Is 6000 Years Old Then You Deny Science" by OLAADEGBU(m): 1:10pm On Sep 14, 2014
lymelyte:

Nobody know the age of the earth.na assumptions everybody dey..

What then is your assumption?
Re: "If You Believe The Earth Is 6000 Years Old Then You Deny Science" by OLAADEGBU(m): 4:58pm On Apr 29, 2016
Who is denying science?
Re: "If You Believe The Earth Is 6000 Years Old Then You Deny Science" by urahara(m): 7:05pm On Apr 29, 2016
wink

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Re: "If You Believe The Earth Is 6000 Years Old Then You Deny Science" by Jozzy4: 8:17pm On Apr 29, 2016
anyone who belive the earth is 6000 years old contradict the bible nd deny scientific facts

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Re: "If You Believe The Earth Is 6000 Years Old Then You Deny Science" by eplanning: 7:12am On Apr 30, 2016
Topic has been discussed extensively here: https://www.nairaland.com/2968434/genesis-1-26-god-talking/1

You may wish to join there or invite some here.
Re: "If You Believe The Earth Is 6000 Years Old Then You Deny Science" by OLAADEGBU(m): 5:35pm On May 03, 2016
Jozzy4:


anyone who belive the earth is 6000 years old contradict the bible nd deny scientific facts

What 'scientific facts' are you talking about?
Re: "If You Believe The Earth Is 6000 Years Old Then You Deny Science" by OLAADEGBU(m): 12:11pm On May 18, 2016
eplanning:


Topic has been discussed extensively here: https://www.nairaland.com/2968434/genesis-1-26-god-talking/1

You may wish to join there or invite some here.

The thread you are diverting us to is a different topic and besides this topic has been posted way before that. If you've got any idea of what the answer to this topic is all about please do share it.
Re: "If You Believe The Earth Is 6000 Years Old Then You Deny Science" by OLAADEGBU(m): 11:05am On Oct 24, 2016
The Atheist Delusion Movie (2016) HD

Published on 22 Oct 2016
Having to prove the existence of God to an atheist is like having to prove the existence of the sun, at noon on a clear day. Yet millions are embracing the foolishness of atheism. "The Atheist Delusion" pulls back the curtain and reveals what is going on in the mind of those who deny the obvious. It introduces you to a number of atheists who you will follow as they go where the evidence leads, find a roadblock, and enter into a place of honesty that is rarely seen on film.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ChWiZ3iXWwM
Re: "If You Believe The Earth Is 6000 Years Old Then You Deny Science" by chiraqDemon(m): 3:02pm On Oct 24, 2016
Earth is billions of years old.....fact.....even the bible never said 6k years tho
Evolution is true too
The bible only explained it from God's point of view which makes it seem like days and all that
Re: "If You Believe The Earth Is 6000 Years Old Then You Deny Science" by Emusan(m): 4:53pm On Oct 24, 2016
chiraqDemon:
Earth is billions of years old.....fact.....even the bible never said 6k years tho
Evolution is true too
The bible only explained it from God's point of view which makes it seem like days and all that

And which part of the Bible did you read these from?
Re: "If You Believe The Earth Is 6000 Years Old Then You Deny Science" by donnffd(m): 4:54pm On Oct 24, 2016
OLAADEGBU:
Someone said: "If you believe the earth is 6000 years old then you deny science."

Response:

If you believe the earth is millions or billions of years old, you "believe" science. You don't "know" the age of the earth. You "trust" what you've been told by fallible men and fallible dating processes. Your convictions rest entirely on faith. See www.EvolutionVsGod.pcom

If you are an homocide detective and you are called to a crime scene, on reaching the venue, you see a person who claims to be an eye witness and he says the victim was shot in the head, then you walk into a crime scene and asks your partner what happened, then he says his theory is that the victim was robbed and stabbed, you ask how does he know, was he there?, then he explains, the body had a knife to its back, a wallet was lying next to the body, on the floor, and all the items in the wallet seemed to be lying on the ground except for money and atm cards.

You examine the body but no gun wounds, but there is a knife stuck at the back of the body!

Who would you believe, the all knowing eye witness who claims was there and saw it happen or your partner who used facts,data and evidence to draw conclusions without being present at the murder?

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Re: "If You Believe The Earth Is 6000 Years Old Then You Deny Science" by DoctorAlien(m): 5:23pm On Oct 24, 2016
The story of evolution and the 4-billion-year age of the earth is as ridiculous as the thinking capacity of those who still believe such a story, even after being presented with the considerable flaws associated with the dating methods, and the multiple assumptions on which such fables are based.

On the crime scene fact-data-evidence story, remember that a suicide can perfectly resemble a murder, and that many innocent people have been incarcerated based on the conclusions reached by "infallible" crime detectors.

Atheist logic:

I don't believe what someone who was there 2000 years ago said happened then.

I believe what someone who is alive now said happened 13.8 billion years ago.








Makes perfect sense.
Re: "If You Believe The Earth Is 6000 Years Old Then You Deny Science" by donnffd(m): 5:36pm On Oct 24, 2016
DoctorAlien:
The story of evolution and the 4-billion-year age of the earth is as ridiculous as the thinking capacity of those who still believe such a story, even after being presented with the considerable flaws associated with the dating methods, and the multiple assumptions on which such fables are based.

On the crime scene fact-data-evidence story, remember that a suicide can perfectly resemble a murder, and that many innocent people have been incarcerated based on the conclusions reached by "infallible" crime detectors.

Atheist logic:

I don't believe what someone who was there 2000 years ago said happened then.

I believe what someone who is alive now said happened 13.8 billion years ago.








Makes perfect sense.

First of all, someone stabbed in the back and his money and atm cards taken could be a suicide?, Really?

Secondly, which exact flaws are associated with dating methods? What i have noticed is that theists would make up anything just to counter reality

Third, even if the dating methods are flawed, atleast it makes an attempt to use experiments and measurement to accurately predict the age of the earth!, whats your alternative?, the word of some goat herders that lived over 2000years ago who ddnt even know the earth revolved around the sun and thought stars were just dots in the sky, really, dude?

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Re: "If You Believe The Earth Is 6000 Years Old Then You Deny Science" by DoctorAlien(m): 6:18pm On Oct 24, 2016
donnffd:


First of all, someone stabbed in the back and his money and atm cards taken could be a suicide?, Really?

Secondly, which exact flaws are associated with dating methods? What i have noticed is that theists would make up anything just to counter reality

Third, even if the dating methods are flawed, atleast it makes an attempt to use experiments and measurement to accurately predict the age of the earth!, whats your alternative?, the word of some goat herders that lived over 2000years ago who ddnt even know the earth revolved around the sun and thought stars were just dots in the sky, really, dude?

I'm not here to educate you. You can actually be better off reading about the flaws associated with dating methods, and the multiple assumptions upon which these dating processes are based.

They are there on the internet.
Re: "If You Believe The Earth Is 6000 Years Old Then You Deny Science" by jonbellion(m): 9:46pm On Oct 24, 2016
[quote author=DoctorAlien post=50476033]

I'm not here to educate you. You can actually be better off reading about the flaws associated with dating methods, and the multiple assumptions upon which these dating processes are based.

They are there on the internet.[/
Ironically, given how supposedly useless carbon dating is claimed to be, Creation Ministries International rests part of their "101 Evidences" on carbon dating being a useful method for within several thousand years. This of course contradicts claims that the Great Flood messed up how carbon was deposited, destroying their own argument
*facepalm*
Re: "If You Believe The Earth Is 6000 Years Old Then You Deny Science" by jonbellion(m): 9:53pm On Oct 24, 2016
The earth and the universe cannot be 6000 years old
Why?
Because we see light farther than 6000lighyears away in the vacum of space
We would not be able to see it if that time had not already passed
The andromeda galaxy is about 1.2 million light years away from earth
We would not be able to see it if that time has not already passed
It is really that simple

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Re: "If You Believe The Earth Is 6000 Years Old Then You Deny Science" by donnffd(m): 5:43am On Oct 25, 2016
The truth is theists have no case, the evidence is glaring, there is more evidence that the earth is flat than there is evidence for a 6000year old earth.

http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Evidence_against_a_recent_creation

I would suggest sane people refrain from arguing with these young earth creationists, its very similar to arguing with someone that the earth is not flat.
Re: "If You Believe The Earth Is 6000 Years Old Then You Deny Science" by OLAADEGBU(m): 9:28am On Oct 29, 2016
donnffd:
The truth is theists have no case, the evidence is glaring, there is more evidence that the earth is flat than there is evidence for a 6000year old earth.

http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Evidence_against_a_recent_creation

I would suggest sane people refrain from arguing with these young earth creationists, its very similar to arguing with someone that the earth is not flat.

What is the truth, do you know truth if it hits you in the face? Is Wiki your evidence? There is evidence of recent creation. It is up to you to back up your claims with evidence. cool
Re: "If You Believe The Earth Is 6000 Years Old Then You Deny Science" by jonbellion(m): 2:48pm On Oct 29, 2016
OLAADEGBU:


What is the truth, do you know truth if it hits you in the face? Is Wiki your evidence? There is evidence of recent creation. It is up to you to back up your claims with evidence. cool
stop saying the earth is 6000 years old. Do you realise if that is true we aren't supposed to see starlight farther than 6000 light years?? Do you realise the speed of light is about 156000m\s which means it is finite. It is fast enough to circumnavigate the earth 7.5 times in a second but since it has a finite speed it would be slower in the vacuum of space. It takes 8 light minutes for the suns light to get to earth. That means we never see what the sun looks like in the present we always see it 8 minutes prior. Proxima centuri our second nearest star is 4 light years away from earth. That means that if proxima centuri should explode right now we wouldn't know until 4 years later. The light from the explosion would get to us four years later. The andromeda galaxy is 2.5 million light years from earth. We are seeing it how it looked 2.5million years ago it's present light wouldn't get to us until 2.5 million years. If there was life in the andromeda galaxy and they look at the milky way galaxy through a telescope they would be seeing it way earlier than it actually is same with us. Stop saying the earth is 6000 years old. Apart from this very obvious reason even if evolution was a lie do you know how many branches of science you'd have to ignore to harbor trust belief. They include but are not limited to
Geology
Fossil fuels
Plate tectonics- have you observed that Africa and south America seem to fit like a jigsaw puzzle. Currently the continents are still drifting apart and it has been observed by satellites
Reaction kinetics — the rate that amino acids undergo racemisation (conversion to an equal mix of stereoisomers) is a well known process that occurs at a specific rate. It can therefore be used as a dating method and has shown biological molecules to be far older than 6000 years.
Fossil fuels- I'm not assuming evolution now but I'm saying the biomass required to form coal and oil underground would take millions of years to be accumulated
Radiometric dating- it is accurate it was accurately used to detect the time mount Vesuvius erupted and engulfed the roman city of Pompeii. Since new rocks were formed from the eruption argon- argon dating was used ty calculate the date. It erupted in 79CE and the results of the rock was 1918 years before 1997 cuz that was the year it was tested. Not to mention rock brought from the moon are older than 6000 years
Anthropology- dude there are civilisations older than 6000 years The Mesopotamians are a good example. When the Abrahamic God was creating they just dey look am.
botany- The old tjkko tree in Sweden is over 9500 years old. The earth and the universe is NOT 6000 years
Stop it dude please stop saying that

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Re: "If You Believe The Earth Is 6000 Years Old Then You Deny Science" by OLAADEGBU(m): 1:26pm On Nov 24, 2016
jonbellion:


stop saying the earth is 6000 years old. Do you realise if that is true we aren't supposed to see starlight farther than 6000 light years?? Do you realise the speed of light is about 156000m\s which means it is finite. It is fast enough to circumnavigate the earth 7.5 times in a second but since it has a finite speed it would be slower in the vacuum of space. It takes 8 light minutes for the suns light to get to earth. That means we never see what the sun looks like in the present we always see it 8 minutes prior. Proxima centuri our second nearest star is 4 light years away from earth. That means that if proxima centuri should explode right now we wouldn't know until 4 years later. The light from the explosion would get to us four years later. The andromeda galaxy is 2.5 million light years from earth. We are seeing it how it looked 2.5million years ago it's present light wouldn't get to us until 2.5 million years. If there was life in the andromeda galaxy and they look at the milky way galaxy through a telescope they would be seeing it way earlier than it actually is same with us. Stop saying the earth is 6000 years old. Apart from this very obvious reason even if evolution was a lie do you know how many branches of science you'd have to ignore to harbor trust belief. They include but are not limited to
Geology
Fossil fuels
Plate tectonics- have you observed that Africa and south America seem to fit like a jigsaw puzzle. Currently the continents are still drifting apart and it has been observed by satellites
Reaction kinetics — the rate that amino acids undergo racemisation (conversion to an equal mix of stereoisomers) is a well known process that occurs at a specific rate. It can therefore be used as a dating method and has shown biological molecules to be far older than 6000 years.
Fossil fuels- I'm not assuming evolution now but I'm saying the biomass required to form coal and oil underground would take millions of years to be accumulated
Radiometric dating- it is accurate it was accurately used to detect the time mount Vesuvius erupted and engulfed the roman city of Pompeii. Since new rocks were formed from the eruption argon- argon dating was used ty calculate the date. It erupted in 79CE and the results of the rock was 1918 years before 1997 cuz that was the year it was tested. Not to mention rock brought from the moon are older than 6000 years
Anthropology- dude there are civilisations older than 6000 years The Mesopotamians are a good example. When the Abrahamic God was creating they just dey look am.
botany- The old tjkko tree in Sweden is over 9500 years old. The earth and the universe is NOT 6000 years
Stop it dude please stop saying that

I am just seeing your reply and considering space and time constraints I'll leave you with a suggested link to peruse for you to see at least 10 great evidence of a young earth, and if you've got enough Mbs you can watch a videoclip for good measure. wink

https://answersingenesis.org/evidence-for-creation/the-10-best-evidences-from-science-that-confirm-a-young-earth/
Re: "If You Believe The Earth Is 6000 Years Old Then You Deny Science" by OLAADEGBU(m): 3:53pm On Nov 24, 2016
Re: "If You Believe The Earth Is 6000 Years Old Then You Deny Science" by dalaman: 5:10pm On Nov 24, 2016
OLAADEGBU:

What is the truth, do you know truth if it hits you in the face? Is Wiki your evidence? There is evidence of recent creation. It is up to you to back up your claims with evidence. cool

What scientific or verifiable evidence do you have to show that the earth /universe is 6000 years old?
Re: "If You Believe The Earth Is 6000 Years Old Then You Deny Science" by jonbellion(m): 5:16pm On Nov 24, 2016
dalaman:


What scientific or verifiable evidence do you have to show that the earth /universe is 6000 years old?
the earth isn't 6000 years old. These people are strange
Fossil fuels wont even exist in such a short period of time
And even if Noahs ark was true(which it's not)
It'll be impossible to produce such a wide variety of different species through artificial selection in just a mere 6000 years
Heck it's w even impossible for species to propagate from just two animals
Re: "If You Believe The Earth Is 6000 Years Old Then You Deny Science" by OLAADEGBU(m): 5:26pm On Nov 24, 2016
dalaman:


What scientific or verifiable evidence do you have to show that the earth /universe is 6000 years old?

The same scientific evidence available to except for the fact that we interpret it differently due to our presuppositional differences.
Re: "If You Believe The Earth Is 6000 Years Old Then You Deny Science" by dalaman: 6:52pm On Nov 24, 2016
OLAADEGBU:


The same scientific evidence available to except for the fact that we interpret it differently due to our presuppositional differences.

Where is the scientific evidence that says the earth /universe is 6000 years old?

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