mazaje:

You think becoming a muslim will make his mum happy? . . .

@ OP, the damage has been done but, I feel you can pretend if you can just for the sake of your family. . . .That's pretend to accept Jesus. . .

ibrokola:

Its not about impressing his Mom, its about finding his purpose in life and understanding why he was created!

@OP, try to understand Islam, not with biase but objectivity! I assure you that you'll find fulfilment.

Okija_juju:


Also from the mouth of Jesus

Matthew 23:17 "You blind fools! Which is greater: the gold, or the temple that makes the gold sacred?"


And...


Luke 11:40 You foolish people! Did not the one who made the outside make the inside also?




Judge Jesus by his words...


_{Dont ask me, Ask Jesus.. The gods are wise..}

DJDOLA: U can never see a muslim become an atheist..but see a good christian dat will turn 2 atheist

kj_hova:

Add talking snakes & monsters with seven heads & chariots of fire that rush people off to heaven!!!! The bible has them all!

laclass: i will advise you to read this 32 page brochure WAS LIFE CREATED? published by Jehovah's witnesses in their website JW.ORG it really explains well on how life was created and evolutionary theory by Charles Darwin after reading it you will have every reason to believe that God really exist.

desdichando: Hahaah!!hohohohoh
I tot I was d only one wid wild imaginations!!mmy issues lies wid d book of revelation
Letz think about this;imagine an ancient ptophet transported from d biblical times when there were just horses,knives,spears to dz modern age with our motor bikes,cars,aeroplanes,,electricity,gunS, skyscrapers etc
If u tell that propphet to write an account of what he had seen,what do u think he would write
Thatz ur book of revelationsmmhe probably saw a vision of the second world war and described it in hz own little understanding
The '666' may be bank accounts,voters card,health records etc which r used by d government to keep records of its citizens I wonder hw they wouldav explained the internet
The chariot of fire may be proppeller fighter jets or even rockets
U can add urs here

victwi: Very funny... People advertising their different religions. There are only two things that can happen... Either the one true God, the maker of heaven and earth, the one whose son is Jesus, arrests you like he did Paul. (in this case u will be very lucky) or whenever you die, you learn the very hard way that there is a God, who is a loving God and a consuming fire @ the same time.
I'd just say... Keep living your life, keep your mind open and if God pleases, he will reveal himself to you. As for your mum, she's one of the best mums on earth, I'm sure.

tonididdy: this THREAD serves as an eye opener to everybody....i personally dont know what to beleive in, i had a christian childhood and have STUCK to that uptill now BUT reading every comment now, i dont shun or belittle any ''as we all have a point''.
what if christianity or islam or buddism isnt the way to ETERNAL GLORY and hinduism IS or vice versa...what then?...do we all perish then for our ignorance or mistakes? bECAUSE SAME WAY CHRIStianity dey shack we christians (that we are so sure its the right religion to heaven,) SAME WAY other religions are sure there's is the right way.

THERE HAS TO BE AN EXPLANATION For ALL THIS.

a REAL HIGHER BEING help us all...amen

tushd: Im not an athiest...i dont bliv in jesus, i dont bliv in hell or heaven, i dont bliv in allah or any other god..i dont do religion but i bealive in God..i bliv in d creation, if u av a bible the old testament is wia u will knw the real God, new testament of jesus is just blasphemous...do u realize that all d twelve disciples of jesus died cos of this and religion call them matyrs..only john that wrote d revelation was saved..nd in that book u will find d truth..dia was nothing like religion in d old testament, just people that av personal relationship with God like abraham,isaac, joseph, elijah,noah nd so on......God is real, nd does nt blong to any religion

ibrokola: mazaje:

There is no god but Allah and mohammed is his messenger, my brother you are on the wrong path. . You will rot in Allah's hell unless you believe in him and accept his religion which is islam. . .say what ever you want but you will definitely remember this post some day. . .

mazaje(m): 4:49pm On Jan 01

I always prefer christains than muslims when it comes to this. . .My family had to leave in the dead of the night when my mum converted us back to christianity after my dad died. . .A muslim father will happily kill his son for becoming an atheist. . .Muslims see atheist less than animals. . .islam is a very dangerous religion when it comes to such issues. . .

ALL I SEE IS A HYPOCRITE DESPERATE TO GIVE ISLAM A BAD NAME!

Lordskenn: thanks for this bro. Just that most people have given their mind to foolishness. Even they see God comes down from heaven, they will not believe.

MeandSum:

I feel for you. I was in the same boat 20 years ago. My Mom was afraid of what people would say, how god would punish me and stuff like that.
fast forward to 20 years later our conversion usually ends with her saying "Thanks. I'm very proud of you! God bless you".

Just maintain your moral compass (trust me, morality has nothing to do with God - people who "know" they'll be forgiven by some "ever loving" God tend to commit more crimes). With clarity of mind that comes from knowing everything depends on you and not some made up God you'll achieve greatness and stability in life.

incrediblestev: On a more serious note, I believe people will get into trouble less if they choose not to make a show of their non-belief and just act like everyone else.

In my house I don't go to church but when my family members are around and may be there is something like a thanksgiving or something similar they need me to attend with them, I willingly oblige them. It is pointless trying to convince a believer or make them see reasons, you will only be risking your relationship with them and coming across as some demon possessed person..... religion is a very strong and sensitive issue for one to be debating openly with people who have largely been indoctrinated and brainwashed right from time immemorial.

onetrack: And what if, for example, there is a god who allowed men to create religions and influence people, but the only people who are rewarded in the afterlife are those people who see that religions are man-made and put them aside?

tete7000:
You erred. Morality has a lot to do with God. When morality is defined without God, morals become subjective; something we define to suit our fancy. With God you have a universal code of morals. What a Chinese Christian considers ethically right is what a Nigerian Christian considers appropriate, vis-a-vis an American Christian.
The issue of people not living their faith is an entirely different issue and has nothing to do with faith. Infact a Christian who doesn't live out his faith is as godless as an atheist for Christianity is not in name but in living. The first Christians are called Christians because their lives mimics Christ's. Finally if I won't trust a man who claims to believe in God, then there is no way I can trust an atheist. Reason: An atheist has no foundation upon which he builds his morals, if he is faced with difficult situation, he easily jettison that which he considers ethical and follows the path that gratifies his personal aggradizement. In short he lives only in flesh and will always seek to satisfy his flesh.
As per the OP I have no advice for you. I only pray your mum's pain and agony to not be in vain. May God open your eyes of understanding and pull you out from your pride so that you may come to know and appreciate the truth. If you need to go through some form of pain, sickness and suffering to arrive at the truth, it's my prayer for the sake of your mother that you go through such. AMEN

kj_hova:

Well, it's not true that people of the same religion have standard behavioural code. Don't even go from Nigeria to China. Let's stay here in Nigeria & compare the beliefs & dogma of the various denominations of both christianity & islam. Alcohol is wrong to some while its ok for others. Some don't use jewelries while some use jewelries. Some won't marry a pregnant couple in church while some would.

You see morality is always relative & has never been a fixed compass. & if you suppose that aethist have shifty moral standards, can you sincerely say christians don't shift moral grounds too? You may say those are bad christians then we can tell you of bad atheists too.

Morality has nothing to do with gods or religion. It is the hinge point of intelligence. It is the main item that separates intelligent beings from instinctive animals & we don't know how many intelligent species exist all over the universe.

BTW, talking of morals & shiftiness, read the bible & see how even your god & his worshippers moral code have shifted from Genesis all the way to Revelations! From kill your enemy to love your enemies!

Okija_juju:


Well...


People need God to explain the the that are beyond their comprehension and that they are too lazy to investigate..

I may not be the type to say their is no God, but all I can say is that if he indeed exists, I have not seen a darn thing he has done..

tete7000:
You erred. Morality has a lot to do with God. When morality is defined without God, morals become subjective; something we define to suit our fancy. With God you have a universal code of morals. What a Chinese Christian considers ethically right is what a Nigerian Christian considers appropriate, vis-a-vis an American Christian.
The issue of people not living their faith is an entirely different issue and has nothing to do with faith. Infact a Christian who doesn't live out his faith is as godless as an atheist for Christianity is not in name but in living. The first Christians are called Christians because their lives mimics Christ's. Finally if I won't trust a man who claims to believe in God, then there is no way I can trust an atheist. Reason: An atheist has no foundation upon which he builds his morals, if he is faced with difficult situation, he easily jettison that which he considers ethical and follows the path that gratifies his personal aggradizement. In short he lives only in flesh and will always seek to satisfy his flesh.
As per the OP I have no advice for you. I only pray your mum's pain and agony to not be in vain. May God open your eyes of understanding and pull you out from your pride so that you may come to know and appreciate the truth. If you need to go through some form of pain, sickness and suffering to arrive at the truth, it's my prayer for the sake of your mother that you go through such. AMEN

If u r not OK with d Bible and it inconsistencies, then try Islam and read d Quran (with English translation), u will find out it makes more sense!- my personal opinion since am a Muslim.

SIR ANDREWS: I would happily dance in hell fire. it would be much fun over there than the boring heAven

onetrack:

Slavery is perfectly 'legal' in Christianity. Nice morality there.