KarmaMod:

Just because her defence lawyer came up with some wackjob defence doesnt mean she will be allowed to escape

In his sleep, that's pretty much premeditated, I don't see her getting off the hook anytime soon

nubila:

Killing out of fear sounds like self defense.

dreeldee:

he posed no threat, he was asleep

@post i think she deserves to be shot while in an unconscious state too

dreeldee:

he posed no threat, he was asleep

@post i think she deserves to be shot while in an unconscious state

eldee:

Actually, it is now being accepted as a case of self-defence especially in the UK
It work mostly when the lawyers asks for a jury, instead of the sole judge

nubila:

Would it have been any better to kill him when he had his eyes open and looking str8 at her? Do you think her chances of living would have been good? If this was the only time that was safe to defend herself and her life depended on it, hey, got to do what you go to do.

nubila:

Would it have been any better to kill him when he had his eyes open and looking str8 at her? Do you think her chances of living would have been good? If this was the only time that was safe to defend herself and her life depended on it, hey, got to do what you go to do.

KarmaMod:

and how many has actually gotten off the hook?

jury eh? hmm. what a surprise.

onyinye2:

Yall don't know how hard it is to walk out of an abusive relationship. You want to leave but you can't. He controls. From what you think about to what you do. You don't see yourself worthy of any man because your man killed your self esteem. There are nights you just dream that you will wake up in a different bed in a different world. But wake up to see your tamer lying right beside you. I can only imagine what that lady was thinking when she brought her heat and coped a bullet in his head.

KarmaMod:

Are you defending the fact that she shot him oyinye?

It would have made more sense if she shot him DURING the abuse, but instead she waited til he was alseep?

That's garbage and can only work in the UK.

StephenP:

That's some BS. She's going to jail. Self defense should only be used when you are being attacked at that moment and you fought back and "unfortunately" killed the attacker.

pc guru:

it's not bullshit, people accumulate their fears and traumatic experiences and when it goes over the bar, they let it out. if it was me i did probably kill the neighbors too, just for sake.   just kidding, but people have breaking point

onyinye: I don't support any type of killing. I'm just saying that is obvious this women isn't sane. That mentally is very distorted. And that instead of ramming her into jail, they should have put in an area where she will be given professional help.

According to trial testimony, on November 9, 1990, Peggy Sue Saiz used a pistol obtained from her boyfriend to shoot her husband, George, four times, killing him. Then, in order to simulate a burglary, Peggy Sue collected items from their home and took them to her mother's house and boyfriend's residence.

Witnesses said that after Peggy Sue shot her husband she went to a bar with her sister. There she met and danced with another man and later the trio went for a late-night snack. After which her sister called 911 from the Saiz home while Peggy Sue faked hysteria in the background.

When police arrived Peggy Sue first told police a burglar had killed her husband. When that story didn't stand up, she admitted shooting her husband but then claimed she was a battered wife and had killed him in self defense.

But, in addition to her infidelity, Peggy Sue had taken out large insurance policies on her husband before killing him.

Dr. Kathy Morall, a forensic psychiatrist, testified during Peggy Sue's trial that the defendant was not suffering from battered woman's syndrome or post traumatic stress disorder at the time she shot her husband.

During the trial Peggy Sue's attorney, Walter Gerash, attempted to call as witnesses two public defenders to challenge Dr. Morall's credibility, but the trial court denied that request. As an aside, it is usually only possible to call attorneys as witnesses under special circumstances, and apparently the defense attorney's request did not meet those conditions under Colorado law.

Peggy Sue Saiz was then sentenced to life in prison for the cold-blooded, premeditated murder of her husband.

Mrs. Saiz's case was appealed all the way to the Colorado Supreme Court and was denied. Then her case was appealed to Federal court. According to the July 23, 2001, edition of the Denver Post (p. 2B) U.S. District Judge Wiley Daniel granted Mrs. Saiz a new trial based on the trial court's refusal to allow the public defenders to be called as witnesses as to the "character and reputation for truthfulness of government witness Dr. Kathy Morrall."

Mrs. Saiz's second trial was scheduled for January 7, 2002, in Adams County District Court. But according to the Wednesday, July 24, 2002, edition of the Denver Post (p. 3B) the Colorado Court of Appeals upheld her previous conviction, ruling that although the trial court should have allowed the testimony, the error was harmless, and overturned the Federal court ruling requiring a new trial.

pc guru:

it's not bullshit, people accumulate their fears and traumatic experiences and when it goes over the bar, they let it out. if it was me i did probably kill the neighbors too, just for sake.   just kidding, but people have breaking point

eldee:

Now tell me the difference between this woman and the dude at Virginia Tech?
Or the kids in High School that go spraying people because of 'bullying'?

eldee:

Now tell me the difference between this woman and the dude at Virginia Tech?
Or the kids in High School that go spraying people because of 'bullying'?

i hope it will serve as a deterrent to other men out there not to turn their women into punching bags, and not become  a controlling and obsessive freak. Lips sealed

onyinye2:

Oka now that kid from Virgina Tech was obviously not sane. If he lived to see his trial, they would have done the same thing they did to that Texas woman who drowned her kids. And that is send him to a secure facility. Same with the folks in Columbine, who went and killed i believe five-seven students. They were obviously not sane.

onyinye2:

Oka now that kid from Virgina Tech was obviously not sane. If he lived to see his trial, they would have done the same thing they did to that Texas woman who drowned her kids. And that is send him to a secure facility. Same with the folks in Columbine, who went and killed i believe five-seven students. They were obviously not sane.

onyinye: Oka now that kid from Virgina Tech was obviously not sane. If he lived to see his trial, they would have done the same thing they did to that Texas woman who drowned her kids. And that is send him to a secure facility. Same with the folks in Columbine, you went and killed i believe five-seven students. They were obviously not sane.

eldee:

So sumone that killed people that were awake is insane
But a woman that killed a man in his sleep should escape?

nubila:

And they attacked innocent people. This woman killed the man that was abusing her.

eldee:

So sumone that killed people that were awake is insane
But a woman that killed a man in his sleep should escape?

dreeldee:


so people now lay claim to insanity to justify the untold pains they inflict on others

nubila:

And they attacked innocent people. This woman killed the man that was abusing her.