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Re: I Watched As Snipers Killed Six Kidnappers by Ibime(m): 12:43pm On Aug 15, 2008
There is no Niger Delta village where you can go, set up tripods, sniper rifles etc without the population finding out. . . . at best, it was an ambush at a rendezvous point. . . . which leads me to ask why the kidnappers will bring all their men and the hostage to the rendezvous point. . . . . the point is that Nigerian government officials do not want to be seen giving money to militants especially after the furore over NNPC, Julius Berger etc - so it profits them more to make up stories about snipers and targetmen. At best it was an ambush (which I am sure Mr Secretary would not subject his wife to). More likely, they paid the militants.
Re: I Watched As Snipers Killed Six Kidnappers by Sagamite(m): 1:06pm On Aug 15, 2008
Ibime:

There is no Niger Delta village where you can go, set up tripods, sniper rifles etc without the population finding out. . . . at best, it was an ambush at a rendezvous point. . . . which leads me to ask why the kidnappers will bring all their men and the hostage to the rendezvous point. . . . . the point is that Nigerian government officials do not want to be seen giving money to militants especially after the furore over NNPC, Julius Berger etc - so it profits them more to make up stories about snipers and targetmen. At best it was an ambush (which I am sure Mr Secretary would not subject his wife to). More likely, they paid the militants.

Common men!!!

Pure conjecture!!!

You be niger delta land surveyor?
Re: I Watched As Snipers Killed Six Kidnappers by Sagamite(m): 1:12pm On Aug 15, 2008
wiseguy:

Is this art so difficult that our own police can't attempt it as some people believe here or is it just the name, sniper, that is confusing things? I bet you, Nigerian police and soldiers have men that are very good in this. There is nothing so special about being a sniper just that the name is not common here in Nigeria. But you'll sure hear about marksmen or sharpshooters in police circles.

This art is just not acquired out of thin air. It takes deep training, discipline and state of the art infrastructure.

In a land known for prolificness in regression of its authorities, I wouldn't doubt if we can not achieve this art.
Re: I Watched As Snipers Killed Six Kidnappers by Ibime(m): 1:12pm On Aug 15, 2008
Sagamite:

Common men!!!

Pure conjecture!!!

You be niger delta land surveyor?


hehehehehe. . . . . let them tell the truth, it was other militants hired by her husband who could have carried out such a rescue, not soldiers or police
Re: I Watched As Snipers Killed Six Kidnappers by ogbunigwe: 4:20pm On Aug 15, 2008
you people are very funny.U dont know that God can throw the kiddnappers into confusion? Read the bible and u will see examples of this kind of situation.Have u forgoten our great grand fathers who were hunters that could shoot a monkey jumping on trees without missing it, with their noisy local made guns.I grew up in the villa I know what am saying.Ther is nothing impossible in this world
Re: I Watched As Snipers Killed Six Kidnappers by seeu(m): 4:27pm On Aug 15, 2008
Big laugh at those that think those millitants are die-hard. Those boys operate base on information, and if no information from the Nigeria Force to carry out the guerilla attack, they will be killed like goats. Never you doubt the woman's story. Just as someone said earlier, being against what the woman narrated does not add or remove anything from you. Those idiots (millitants) were really killed.
Re: I Watched As Snipers Killed Six Kidnappers by jodeci(m): 4:30pm On Aug 15, 2008
Ibime:

There is no Niger Delta village where you can go, set up tripods, sniper rifles etc without the population finding out. . . . at best, it was an ambush at a rendezvous point. . . . which leads me to ask why the kidnappers will bring all their men and the hostage to the rendezvous point. . . . . the point is that Nigerian government officials do not want to be seen giving money to militants especially after the furore over NNPC, Julius Berger etc - so it profits them more to make up stories about snipers and targetmen. At best it was an ambush (which I am sure Mr Secretary would not subject his wife to). More likely, they paid the militants.
Ur arguments are simply baseless,the truth is that u hardly believe anything,even your surname.
Re: I Watched As Snipers Killed Six Kidnappers by chessguru(m): 5:09pm On Aug 15, 2008
@ all saying its a lie, may you walk!! who are yua to fire or vomit what you did not witness, were you there, una no sabi anything!!na just to siddon dey type crap theory
@ all saying its true
   well, may you walk!! una no dey there, dont believe everything you read,
@ all saying it mite be true o, only jah knows
   may you walk and never stumble, and you are highly carried, bravo for you are the best of them all!!
as for me, i see no evil,i hear no evil, i know no evil and am simply not interested , e true or e no true no go affect my plate of pounded yam with egusi with orisirisi,round about,and goat meat with two bottles of, wey i wan go shop now!!
  e no affecxt am so, all awulu awala remains achina!!
Re: I Watched As Snipers Killed Six Kidnappers by ernal(m): 5:18pm On Aug 15, 2008
What we fail to understand is that these Militant Bois are professionally trained better equip than you average Nigerian Navy,Soldier or Police all joined together,them don dey since dem Babangida days,na them train them ,use these same bois for bunkering,you so called polictican hired dem also,supplied them best ammuntions way we no fit supply our own Police,now una all dey cry foul,Nigeria will not grow if we dont do sometin to ask our leaders questions and make best use of our time,wenti dey happen for Najia no reach wenti dey make Oyinbo commit suicide or declare war,and to those that believe prayers will solve it,let me tell u Heaven help those way help themselves,at least na Oyinbo bring christianity to us,u ever see them dey go crazr craze over prayer for their own problems,we need to seat up and use our God given brains to help ourselves,May God help us all.
Re: I Watched As Snipers Killed Six Kidnappers by Ibime(m): 5:28pm On Aug 15, 2008
I don't know why people are getting emotional just because I said the woman may be lying. . . . . . at the end of the day, it does not affect me either way. . . . . but I wonder, really really wonder why una dey vex say I talk say the woman dey lie. Abi, the woman na una relative?. . . . . like I said, if Oyinbo man with all their highly trained special ops cannot rescue their citizens from these kidnappers, then I doubt that Nigerian soldiers/police can. . . . ha
Re: I Watched As Snipers Killed Six Kidnappers by Kashif(m): 6:26pm On Aug 15, 2008
I am not very surprised that Nigerians are underating themselves. I laughed when I read some of those posts where fellas are shouting "na lie! e no fit happen for naija!!" That shows that we dont know what it takes to be in specialised military (or paramilitary) formation/unit. Being a sniper does not need all those 'specialised' equipment you watch in movies.

The shot that killed JF Kennedy was fired from a Remington XP-100 fireball in the grassy knoll. You can google that gun to discover that it was/is not a sophisticated gun. Some even say it could pass for a pistol though with less recoil. Most rifles when equipped with good telescopic sight and manned by a personnel with good marksmanship, will bring down any man within range. It is high time we stopped all these imperialistic disposition. Many of us think nothing good could ever come out of this country. How would we progress with such mindset?

When Dele Giwa was murdered in the 80's and the military was fingered, their quick response (which almost every Nigerian bought) was that the weapon used in killing him was too sophisticated for the Nigerian military. I believed them untill we were given graphical narration on how that bomb was developed by our own son, a nuclear physicist. Infact, he prepared it under house arrest in his village in Enugu state (though not knowing the purpose).

Somebody mentioned that Nigeria has one of the best infantries in the world. It is not baseless. I dont know why but it goes with a lot of credit. What is there being a sniper? Perhaps, it is the nomenclature? Dont you think all those game shooters could pass for amateur snipers?

The story mentioned that one of the kidnappers was an undergraduate. That shows you the level of their naivity. Professional kidnappers would not let a woman menstruate without giving her pad or an improvise. For those sort of kidnappers, guys still in the sniper academy would not have to hold their breath when pulling the trigger nor require a spotter. They dont need to watch blood suger levels during preparation either!

My people, it is very possible to bring them down as narrated. Shalom. cool
Re: I Watched As Snipers Killed Six Kidnappers by beebop(f): 6:27pm On Aug 15, 2008
wait, everyone is going on about tactical commando bullshit (even though that story has k-legs) and didn't even think about this ,

If you are kidnapped, wouldn't your loved one do anything to get you back safe and sound? EVEN paying ransom. It seemed to me that the husband didn't give a shit if his wife lived or died. Assuming the whole Rambo thing is true, wouldn't you be terrified that your wife would be caught in the crossfire?

Nigerian men!
Re: I Watched As Snipers Killed Six Kidnappers by Kashif(m): 6:31pm On Aug 15, 2008
This is not about Nigerian men. What if they were asking for N20B when the man's net worth is N10M? It could be just like finding yourself between the devil and the deep blue sea. undecided
Re: I Watched As Snipers Killed Six Kidnappers by tpia: 6:40pm On Aug 15, 2008
this is why the military has been able to rule Nigeria for so long.

Nigerians underestimate them and ignore the fact that these guys receive top notch training from India, the UK and other countries.



when a child provokes an elder, silence on the elder's part doesnt have to mean weakness. undecided
Re: I Watched As Snipers Killed Six Kidnappers by some1(m): 7:13pm On Aug 15, 2008
na God help her
Re: I Watched As Snipers Killed Six Kidnappers by cescky(m): 8:04pm On Aug 15, 2008
@idupaul

i can sense ur ignorance from cyber space, empty barrel instead of u to shut up,ur dirty excuse for a mouth and learn something, ur proving u know abi

what do i stand to gain by hyping nigerian army? do u ever listen to the news?

idiot, to uplift u a bit from the pangs of ignorance it was the united states army whom rated,nigerian soilders that high.
Re: I Watched As Snipers Killed Six Kidnappers by Sagamite(m): 12:22am On Aug 16, 2008
ernal:

What we fail to understand is that these Militant Bois are professionally trained better equip than you average Nigerian Navy,Soldier or Police all joined together,them don dey since them Babangida days,na them train them ,use these same bois for bunkering,you so called polictican hired them also,supplied them best ammuntions way we no fit supply our own Police,now una all dey cry foul,Nigeria will not grow if we don't do sometin to ask our leaders questions and make best use of our time,wenti dey happen for Najia no reach wenti dey make Oyinbo commit suicide or declare war,and to those that believe prayers will solve it,let me tell u Heaven help those way help themselves,at least na Oyinbo bring christianity to us,u ever see them dey go crazr craze over prayer for their own problems,we need to seat up and use our God given brains to help ourselves,May God help us all.

Load of crap.
Re: I Watched As Snipers Killed Six Kidnappers by beebop(f): 3:49am On Aug 16, 2008
so between money and the life of your wife is some huge choice.

he no fit price?

the husband is an asshole
Re: I Watched As Snipers Killed Six Kidnappers by beebop(f): 4:25am On Aug 16, 2008
if i was in a stinky jungle with blood all over and gangsters threatening to kill me and all my husband said is "god will take care of it". I'll f-cking break his balls.

and get divorced.
Re: I Watched As Snipers Killed Six Kidnappers by Sagamite(m): 4:39am On Aug 16, 2008
beebop:

so between money and the life of your wife is some huge choice.

he no fit price?

the husband is an asshole



Let me be frank, I would most likely be infuriated if this happened to my wife that I would have no intention of paying the ransom.

I will only agree to pay the ransom as long as I can use it as a bait.

The member of the gang or person that comes to pick the ransom would experience horrors that Saddam, Idi Amin, Bokassa and Stalin could not think of, if he does not reveal where she is or if any harm comes her way. Actually the dictators would beg and cry for him/her if they saw it.

But in the first place, if I was rich and successful in the Niger Delta, with what is happening, my wife and kids would not be in that area. Half of the 10M in ransom you are paying can buy a fine house in Lokoja or Jos and pay for a nice school.
Re: I Watched As Snipers Killed Six Kidnappers by Sagamite(m): 4:40am On Aug 16, 2008
beebop:

if i was in a stinky jungle with blood all over and gangsters threatening to kill me and all my husband said is "god will take care of it". I'll f-cking break his balls.

and get divorced.

So what if he pays and they just take the money and still sniff you out?
Re: I Watched As Snipers Killed Six Kidnappers by Okijajuju1(m): 11:40am On Aug 16, 2008
[size=18pt]SNIPERS[/size] & [size=18pt]SWAT[/size] shocked shocked shocked

[size=16pt]Is this really Naija we are talking about?? The same police that takes 20 Naira at checkpoint.[/size]


NA LIE!! angry angry


Sinper Ko! Bobby lee Swagger Ni! angry
Re: I Watched As Snipers Killed Six Kidnappers by Sagamite(m): 1:22pm On Aug 16, 2008
Okija_juju:

[size=18pt]SNIPERS[/size] & [size=18pt]SWAT[/size] shocked shocked shocked

[size=16pt]Is this really Naija we are talking about?? The same police that takes 20 Naira at checkpoint.[/size]


NA LIE!! angry angry


Sinper Ko! Bobby lee Swagger Ni! angry

So you think it is the same calibre in units patrolling the streets that would be in homicide, counter terrorist, EFCC etc?

You don't think the calibre and qualifications in different units would defer?
Re: I Watched As Snipers Killed Six Kidnappers by ernal(m): 2:43pm On Aug 16, 2008
Till we start to practise True feduralism, All these will countinue, Miltancy,Kidnappers whatever u call it.Let use our brains!!!
Re: I Watched As Snipers Killed Six Kidnappers by beebop(f): 3:36pm On Aug 16, 2008
So what if he pays and they just take the money and still sniff you out?

At least, he made an effort. He let her rot for almost three weeks!! Look I believe that these criminals in the Niger Delta should not be supported and I'm glad that she lived (despite the psychological trauma) but this is evident of a larger malaise in this society. This belief that women are expendable. I'm sure he was already scouting around for a replacement wife.

If it was the other way round, walahi, he would be directing his wife to empty her bank account sharp sharp
Re: I Watched As Snipers Killed Six Kidnappers by kevd2: 3:44pm On Aug 16, 2008
Nigerians and thier Delusional Christianity,someone even says the (Church is the Place of Truth)-Bullshit, So we should we believe her story because she told it in church, When I know for a fact how many Nigerians concoct stories during testimonies ,I dont know who they are trying to impress.
No wonder the white man has dashed religion to us so that we can continue to fool ourselves.With all the Christianity in this Country, Nigeria is still thrash.That Politician is just trin to rail road people abegh.
Re: I Watched As Snipers Killed Six Kidnappers by ernal(m): 3:50pm On Aug 16, 2008
Well said kev.
Re: I Watched As Snipers Killed Six Kidnappers by stiyke(m): 4:37pm On Aug 16, 2008
It is very sad that most nigerians are pessimistic about nigeria. Yes its true that most things dont work in this country, and there are ranks in the nigerian force police and army that wouldnt risk their lives. The truth is that Nigeria has such brave and capable persons in the force. I have a friend who is a soldier, he is a sniper, thats what he specialise in. He has gone to combat in 4 african countries, and recently he went on training course outside the country.

I dont know why it pains some nigerians to hear any good news about nigeria. Besides what would the woman gain by lying?? Please Ibime tell me that recent reports of gun duels between naval patrols and millitants which have resulted in death of at least 24 millitants is a lie. But when they kill soldiers its true. Go and check Nigerian soldiers are about the best in africa. Everyone knows it only u.
Re: I Watched As Snipers Killed Six Kidnappers by cescky(m): 5:04pm On Aug 16, 2008
stiyke:

It is very sad that most nigerians are pessimistic about nigeria
. Yes its true that most things don't work in this country, and there are ranks in the nigerian force police and army that wouldnt risk their lives. The truth is that Nigeria has such brave and capable persons in the force. I have a friend who is a soldier, he is a sniper, thats what he specialise in. He has gone to combat in 4 african countries, and recently he went on training course outside the country.

I don't know why it pains some nigerians to hear any good news about nigeria. Besides what would the woman gain by lying
?? Please Ibime tell me that recent reports of gun duels between naval patrols and millitants which have resulted in death of at least 24 millitants is a lie. But when they kill soldiers its true. [[b][b]i]Go and check Nigerian soldiers are about the best in africa. Everyone knows it only u.[/i]
[/b][/b]



bros u talk am well well,

and the point about nigerian soldiers (infantry group) its not just in africa, but well recognised as one of the best world wide.
Re: I Watched As Snipers Killed Six Kidnappers by TheSly: 5:10pm On Aug 16, 2008
Ahhhhhhhhhhhh! cheesy
Is it not the same Nigeria where some banks are now using helicopters to transport money from one state to another? cheesy
This is 007. . . . . cheesy
Re: I Watched As Snipers Killed Six Kidnappers by vescucci(m): 5:35pm On Aug 16, 2008
cough, bull.sh, it, cough. Sneeze, boll, ocks, cough.
Re: I Watched As Snipers Killed Six Kidnappers by tpia: 6:25pm On Aug 16, 2008
Okija_juju:

[size=18pt]SNIPERS[/size] & [size=18pt]SWAT[/size] shocked shocked shocked

[size=16pt]Is this really Naija we are talking about?? The same police that takes 20 Naira at checkpoint.[/size]


NA LIE!! angry angry


Sinper Ko! Bobby lee Swagger Ni! angry

na wa. undecided

Police is the same as army?

naija people, what happened to us?


yet we complain that other nations dont respect us. How can they, when we demonstrate this kind of reasoning?

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