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Re: Furore Over Doctor Of Pharmacy Degree In Nigerian Universities. by adeoladrg(m): 12:59pm On Jun 30, 2014 |
Pennywise: Paupers always think they have an opinion! I blame the network providers for making internet connection cheap! Now you zoom off from this thread! |
Re: Furore Over Doctor Of Pharmacy Degree In Nigerian Universities. by adeoladrg(m): 1:08pm On Jun 30, 2014 |
youngRx: my fellow men of honour jst allow d bad belles pour out d rantings. dts d best dey can do. weda dey like it or not pharm.D wip surely com to nig. it didnt start in nig and its nt gona end here in nig. tnk God d issue wit d NUC is sumtin dt can b resolved and once it is resolved all pharm schools wil start pharm.D at once. dis tym it wont b only uniben. let alone for me i wil even prefer dey remove d title 'dr' who wants to b called that sef?? i hv enof pharmchem to worry me wit out u guys addin urs. pls any good pharm student in d hous shud help me wit d simplest structure of morphine joor.....lolz My brother, this is the sad truth. NUC had a misunderstanding with Uniben, if you read the article. Once that gets resolved, haters are so gonna cry.. I also have no business whatsoever with the appellation, buh it gives our enemies serious headache that panadol cannot cure. 1 Like |
Re: Furore Over Doctor Of Pharmacy Degree In Nigerian Universities. by Ulonwadi: 3:51pm On Jun 30, 2014 |
Pennywise: Last time I checked MBBS is Bachelor of medicine, Bachelor of Surgery, if the medical doctor can be called Doctor even though he has a bachelors degree then why shouldn't the Pharm D holders have a right to answer whatever they want to. I personally believe only PhD holders should be called doctors, that's my opinion and I won't force it down anybody's throat or insult anyone who chooses to be addressed as such. I have a Pharm D from the University of Benin and I can tell you that, that degree makes a lot of sense and all pharmacists should ensure that they at least upgrade their degrees to Pharm D. The course content is so rich and the knowledge you gain beats B Pharm anyday. little wonder that the high level drug companies in naija scramble for uniben products. During my internship, I was appalled by the B Pharm holders from other schools I worked with and felt sad that they themselves didn't even know their deficiencies. However at the end of the day the most important thing is improved provision of health care to the man on the street, if the Pharm D can equip the pharmacist with the skills to achieve that aim, then only a lunatic would complain about the fact that the Pharmacist bears the appellation of Dr 2 Likes |
Re: Furore Over Doctor Of Pharmacy Degree In Nigerian Universities. by Ulonwadi: 4:02pm On Jun 30, 2014 |
Pennywise: I have no wish to burst your bubble. But to all the aspiring pharmD and second rate intellectually bereft pharmacists on this thread who feel they are nothing without a doctor tag I am afraid u will forever remain nothing. U cannot be redeemed. I noticed your serious hatred for Pharmacists na wa o, did you fail out of Pharmacy school? Uniben has been awarding B Pharm And Pharm D to its grauduates, the five year undergraduate course and the last year for conversion, unfortunately many of you do not know this and you keep exhibiting vocal diarrhoea. You claim not to be a pharmacist then why you carry our matter for head na? are you that jobless? you mentioned that no drug companies rely on Nigerian pharmacists, how many of them do you know? There's no drug company in Nigeria today that depends on non nigerians for any aspect of their production, Swipha the only AFRICAN company with the most recent ISO certification has NO foreign production pharmacist. The funny part of your statement is that it is totally opposite of what really obtains in the real world. 2 Likes |
Re: Furore Over Doctor Of Pharmacy Degree In Nigerian Universities. by Ulonwadi: 4:14pm On Jun 30, 2014 |
joker5180: you guys seems to be confused. No nigerian university award " doctor of medicine" to any graduate, what they award is " bachelor of medicine, bachelor of surgery". the title "Dr" has been patented by MBBS graduates? Are you joking or do you regularly think with your anus? |
Re: Furore Over Doctor Of Pharmacy Degree In Nigerian Universities. by Pennywise(m): 4:24pm On Jun 30, 2014 |
Ulonwadi: So you did 'one year conversion' so that you can write prescriptions and kill people? You are a very dangerous man. You are a licensed murderer. How dare you say because you peeped in the wards for one year, you are better than responsible B pharm? Now that the NUC has reversed itself, you had better hand in that certificate. What hunger and desperation will drive you to play 'doctor' with real human lives when you know that you are not truly qualified? And you have the temerity to come to a forum like this and show your self? I bet you take deliveries and do abortions in your pharmacy too This is the exact same character I talked about in my post earlier and you people didnt believe me. Now tell us what other things you have been doing dr Ulowandi. 2 Likes |
Re: Furore Over Doctor Of Pharmacy Degree In Nigerian Universities. by Pennywise(m): 4:26pm On Jun 30, 2014 |
Ulonwadi: What do you think with? Your preek? |
Re: Furore Over Doctor Of Pharmacy Degree In Nigerian Universities. by Pennywise(m): 4:45pm On Jun 30, 2014 |
Its a pity that the UBTH that I hold in such high esteem has to be the place accommodating this unholy act. I know a good number of well placed pharmacists who graduated from that school and they will be horrified about this ignominy that is being perpetrated there. One that Lagos, Ibadan, Ife, UNN, ABU and any other pharmacy school of repute in Nigeria has refused to subscribe to. I strongly recommend a probe of the originator of this program, its finances and prison terms meted out as appropriate. All the so called graduates of this program should be sought and the fake certificates recovered beginning with dr ULOWANDI. |
Re: Furore Over Doctor Of Pharmacy Degree In Nigerian Universities. by dumodust(m): 4:50pm On Jun 30, 2014 |
adeola_drg: are u on drugs? seriously try for once to be coherent... mr english corrector, who doesnt know its self esteem all except u... an old man failure in his 3rd university after his olodo head couldnt pass and get admission to read medicine and what's the meaning of the bolded above, re-read your write up and see how your sentences have no thought stream and i ask frankly, are u high on marijuana? ... 40 yr old in 300level talking as if he has a degree |
Re: Furore Over Doctor Of Pharmacy Degree In Nigerian Universities. by adeoladrg(m): 4:51pm On Jun 30, 2014 |
Ulonwadi: Well, nicely said! Nice to meet you. |
Re: Furore Over Doctor Of Pharmacy Degree In Nigerian Universities. by adeoladrg(m): 4:53pm On Jun 30, 2014 |
dumodust: *ignored* 2 Likes |
Re: Furore Over Doctor Of Pharmacy Degree In Nigerian Universities. by dumodust(m): 5:03pm On Jun 30, 2014 |
Ulonwadi: so, the people calling MDs 'doctors' in the U.S are mad never watched a movie where patients were running after pharmacists shouting doctor , like grey's pharmacology or 'house' pharmacists version...lol... only in nigeria, pure comedy at its peak . ok, dr ulonwadi or whatever, are u happy now? and now, you're even looking down at your fellow pharmacists, maybe better trained because of a 'D' appendage, rich course ko, rich tea ni ...hehehe... wahala dey for una course o, u guys have serious problems...bunch of confusionists. if we probe now, i bet we may find you wanting, self glorifying Arrow pointing at other people's deficiencies, maybe you should conduct an interview and find out what they think about you. besides where are my old friends, the B PHARMers i need their views about their deficiencies so i know who to run from 2 Likes |
Re: Furore Over Doctor Of Pharmacy Degree In Nigerian Universities. by dumodust(m): 5:05pm On Jun 30, 2014 |
adeola_drg: but very spot on that it hurts |
Re: Furore Over Doctor Of Pharmacy Degree In Nigerian Universities. by Ulonwadi: 5:46pm On Jun 30, 2014 |
Pennywise: As the question wasn't directed at you, I have no business answering you. Go continue looking for vacancies, today might be your day |
Re: Furore Over Doctor Of Pharmacy Degree In Nigerian Universities. by Ulonwadi: 5:54pm On Jun 30, 2014 |
dumodust: All your knowledge about life outside the country is from TV shows? And you're here putting mouth in professional matters? Puhlease go and learn first before you start yarning. My dear any profession that doesn't update itself will become obsolete before long, and with the advances in medical sciences only a fool would let the knowledge train pass him by. You're not a pharmacist, why you dey carry our matter for head. |
Re: Furore Over Doctor Of Pharmacy Degree In Nigerian Universities. by Ulonwadi: 5:57pm On Jun 30, 2014 |
Pennywise: Its a pity that the UBTH that I hold in such high esteem has to be the place accommodating this unholy act. I know a good number of well placed pharmacists who graduated from that school and they will be horrified about this ignominy that is being perpetrated there. One that Lagos, Ibadan, Ife, UNN, ABU and any other pharmacy school of repute in Nigeria has refused to subscribe to. Sweety unfortunately no one can recover my certificate, I wish I could give it to you so you can sleep better at night, alas its mine till I die. |
Re: Furore Over Doctor Of Pharmacy Degree In Nigerian Universities. by dumodust(m): 6:06pm On Jun 30, 2014 |
Ulonwadi:ok o... dr ulonwadi ... hope that is all...lol. so, na only u sabi about life outside naija shebi? besides, with the internet, fools can google halftruth trash and type it here like its original. off goes his mouth again about advances and knowledge, people who know them actually read them and train, not letting their mouth do the work and i maintain that i think you are untried and untested in the field. anybody who takes pride in putting down his B.pharm colleagues is like a saboteur in the army... simple |
Re: Furore Over Doctor Of Pharmacy Degree In Nigerian Universities. by Ulonwadi: 6:07pm On Jun 30, 2014 |
Pennywise: The NUC's "reversal" has nothing to do with already issued certificates, the funny thing about the whole Pharm D drama is that in 2007 when the NUC made its recommendation, Uniben obeyed the directive to the letter, nobody was given Pharm D straight but got the B Pharm And then PharmD. This year however the dean of the Faculty misguidedly issued only PharmD and that's the problem, the NUC has no problem with Pharm D degree but it has a problem with it as a first degree and if uniben returns to status quo then all the dust will settle |
Re: Furore Over Doctor Of Pharmacy Degree In Nigerian Universities. by Ulonwadi: 6:15pm On Jun 30, 2014 |
dumodust: Sweety I live in the US and Nigeria and while my B Pharm colleagues spent four years studying to get their Pharm D, I spent a year studying Pharmacy laws and ethics. I'm not putting anybody down but pointing out the reasons for the switch to Pharm D. |
Re: Furore Over Doctor Of Pharmacy Degree In Nigerian Universities. by sisiafrika(f): 7:33pm On Jun 30, 2014 |
Ulonwadi:gosh! Ur wicked! Hahahahaha. How else will a frustrated punk act if not dis way? He must be a stale graduate looking for an hoUse job. Hahahah. Let him get well |
Re: Furore Over Doctor Of Pharmacy Degree In Nigerian Universities. by zeezahbee(f): 8:14pm On Jun 30, 2014 |
s!s! afrika:Sisi afrika and ulonwadi, una don send the pennyless fool away. He's been showing signs of schizophrenia and that's why I think everyone should ignore him. He didn't even talk about the topic again but feeling pained. Oga penny, abeg take your medication to avoid angina because pharm D has come to stay. Peace |
Re: Furore Over Doctor Of Pharmacy Degree In Nigerian Universities. by adeoladrg(m): 8:20pm On Jun 30, 2014 |
Ulonwadi: God knows i was secretly praying for a Doctor of Pharmacy to come and enlighten them since the words of a student of a bachelor of pharmacy were not entering their hears. Thank you lord for answering my prayer. I see the fear that cuts deep into their volksman canal. God bless you sir! God bless all the pharmacists and students that aired their opinions, zeezahbee, evanscheck, sisi Afrika, Sam, Stefikal, Shori, youngRx and the other names i can't remember. God bless the Lab scientists, nurses, physiotherapists and other neutral observers. God bless the enemies of the pharmacy profession too. Pennywise, Joker, dumodust, deols and the rest of you. God bless you! You've kept us on our feet. You aired your opinions, buh sadly it doesn't count. The mistake Uniben made will be corrected soon and this time the program will spread like wildfire. God bless you again. 3 Likes |
Re: Furore Over Doctor Of Pharmacy Degree In Nigerian Universities. by evanscheck(m): 8:20pm On Jun 30, 2014 |
Pennywise: pennyfoolish, is that u. i made one worst mistake, which was to count you among those that are wise,seriously i regret it. successful doctors dont even have time to check who is using their tag to impersonate.the real big boys in ur proffession are busy making it and saving lives everyday and u are here looking for who has used Dr in their name. u are such a disgrace to ur immediate family, extended family and ur community that ever believed in you . such a collosal waste of funds and resources.A failed investment. am sorry but the truth must be said. My candid advice is to look for a career counsellor and open up to him/her that u dont know where u are heading with this path u choose.its easy ,just make up ur mind. guess i have said my mind,pls if u wud excuse me i have patients to attend to. 1 Like |
Re: Furore Over Doctor Of Pharmacy Degree In Nigerian Universities. by evanscheck(m): 8:43pm On Jun 30, 2014 |
deols: If the NUC come up to say pharmacists can inculcate whatever makes the pharmD better into b.pharm without attaching a 'Dr' tag, you will easily see that the clamour isn't about the need to provide better services but the need to becalled doctors. there is one bitter truth i have not reminded u,the primary point of call for patients is the pharmacy/ drug store. then the secondary is the hospital. the days where doctors are supreme is over, patients now even tell u the drugs they want and the form in which it wud work for them.am so sorry but if u entered the proffession for pride ,dont u think u need to reconsider and think twice.times are hard. the average Nigerian, wud walk into a drug store and describe heaven and earth to the person INCHARGE,and the patient gets well.while u sit in ur lofty chair, in ur starched weak tucked in shirts and trousers,perform 2 surgery a day and u get to share it with the landlord of the building and ur employees. let me leave you with this foot note. we are the heart beat of the health sector and we know it. weda we attach doctor to our name or engr, gcfrn, oon,ceo ,call it wat ever name u wish.accord us the maximum respect if you need yours, thank you. 1 Like |
Re: Furore Over Doctor Of Pharmacy Degree In Nigerian Universities. by dumodust(m): 9:56pm On Jun 30, 2014 |
adeola_drg: this wins the award of the most juvenile post so far on nairaland ... bunch of jokers, even if 50cent dey hail eminem and D12 ...LMAO. all i know there's more beef to come amongst you lot(pharmacists) when the so called PharmD becomes a bragging point for tribal chiefs in the health sector keen on titles and not enhancing their profession. i've never heard anywhere that reading Pharmacy laws and ethics(according to ulonwadi) actually gives one an edge rather than the stuff... dude,quackery reeks and now i understand NUC's issue with it... ethical information are in the public domain, free to learn and aqauint yourself with.in short fresh med graduates are issued guidelines for free... na wao and what does volkmann's canal have to do with anything? ... weird analogy, of all things... all these people excited by what they dont have... ewo... excited overaged kid 1 Like |
Re: Furore Over Doctor Of Pharmacy Degree In Nigerian Universities. by evanscheck(m): 9:57pm On Jun 30, 2014 |
dumodust: Dr sawdust, i graduated before u probably passed Ur first MB.so u are not talking to a kid, u are talking to a practicing and licensed fellow and i need not remind you that he is doing well.companies you say?,don't you think the companies exist under a body or do u think things are done anyhow.patronize the ojuelegba tout and see how Ur Dr turns rd(retired)or even withdrawn,cos such am incompetent fellow like u wud not only poison Ur patient,but also your family members. i already knew u are quack in the making so i wud nt be surprised to hear of negative exploits.no matter how many times i say this, i wud nt be able to say it enough.we are the heart beat of the health sector and learn to accord us with the needed respect. |
Re: Furore Over Doctor Of Pharmacy Degree In Nigerian Universities. by dumodust(m): 10:06pm On Jun 30, 2014 |
evanscheck:hahahaha...graduator and heartbeater my foot, bragging on nl but stiffs in real life...all these new kids on nairaland that feel shouting is equivalent to proving. kid you are... if not, talk your age, check your post i commented on... u were talking 'kwa kwa kwa, drivel, drivel'...trash talk all from your mouth. guy, i graduated eons ago, i dont brag with who i am... simple ... so hurry up and better come and lobby so that i can prescribe some of your stash before it expires, dont form for your colleagues o. most probabaly, u may even have lobbied me before...LMAO ... even the pts know who the bosses are |
Re: Furore Over Doctor Of Pharmacy Degree In Nigerian Universities. by sisiafrika(f): 10:21pm On Jun 30, 2014 |
evanscheck:oluwa mi ooooo. Chei! |
Re: Furore Over Doctor Of Pharmacy Degree In Nigerian Universities. by AmyJacob: 6:14am On Jul 01, 2014 |
As is the common practice in our society, people are assuming that one person's aspiration has to be at the expense of other people.all these degrees are they not from the western countries? In the USA now, Pharm D is an ENTRY level degree for pharmacists. There is no longer any pharmacy school offering a bachelor of pharmacy degree in the USA. I should know because I am a pharmacist. It is very juvenile to stifle curriculum development in a profession to satisfy the over inflated egos of some. Nigerians should do due diligence before commenting. What should I expect, even the NUC is not educated enough on how professions work in developed societies. For those egocentric doctors who think "dr" is their birthright, check the history of its use. It was not originally used for physicians but for PhDs. What are they going to do in America where there is O.D (optometrists), JD (lawyers), DNP (nursing) etc...refuse to work? That is why the country has not made progress. Empty suits everywhere! Who in the world controls the evolution of another profession? It's only in Nigeria that it can happen. No profession controls the board of another profession and if lawyers want J.D they get it based on their curriculum. Is it not in the same Nigeria that all the illiterate buffoons ruling us have one title or the other before their name. 6 Likes |
Re: Furore Over Doctor Of Pharmacy Degree In Nigerian Universities. by Pennywise(m): 8:15am On Jul 01, 2014 |
Ulonwadi: Job hunting has always been strange to me cos I never had a problem getting any since graduation. On the other hand your search for instant fortune and wealth will soon bring u to Mr Penny (the only reasonable thing called me by a garrulous biatch on this thread) cos U like sth huge and flashy. Not that PharmD is ever taking u beyond the front desk but u can enjoy the AC bf u go trudging in the blistering sun. I may open my cctv audio to hear them gossip your life, mute it when tired and then come back to NL. Bpharm will open doors for you while PharmD will shut it in your face bc it means nothing more than a fraudulent title created to usurp without bringing any real value. Introduce your self as a pharmacist and not as a doctor sb. And I hope the Uniben sponsors of this corrupt Nig variant are on this thread bc they cannot continue to defy common sense and logic. Nigerian educational system as it concerns the health sector has been respected worldwide. We cannot let people on account of greed, pride , ambition and whatever motive screw it up. |
Re: Furore Over Doctor Of Pharmacy Degree In Nigerian Universities. by Pennywise(m): 10:35am On Jul 01, 2014 |
evanscheck: Thank you for promoting me to the league of successful drs. Loooolz. U are a very intelligent boy. But you are not intelligent enough to know that as a rebel pharmacist, you have signed up to a life of servitude and frustration. Drs and senior pharmacists will sit and shiit on your head in govt and in private. With or without your certificate you will be expelled from an elite community of professionals. All of a sudden you are a vagabond with a worthless certificate called PharmD. And you feel nothing but shame each time someone call you dr bc in your mind you know PharmD is nothing but a tool of deception. There must be order in the Nigerian health sector. Rascals like evanscheck seeking to offset this order will be actively sought by genuine doctors and pharmacists alike and taken down like a dog. That is your destiny to which you can now say Amen. |
Re: Furore Over Doctor Of Pharmacy Degree In Nigerian Universities. by Samgreguc(m): 11:10am On Jul 01, 2014 |
Ulonwadi:thanks bro |
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