YourHealthlabs:


Nobody is asking you what u earn in dollars, exchange rates are not stagnant. They are subjective many factors.

Morever an Intern doc earns more than the figure you posted there if converted today. A resident earns almost as twice as that figure. Let's say it way it is.

If you are ignorant tell us, i'll give you a sound lecture on the goings-on in the health sector. It's a pity you've lost media monopoly. People are wiser

Take your last advice, you need it more.

harmonyedwards:
Ignoramus!
What do u want to grow in 4 weeks from blood culture?!
Na iroko tree u won culture?!
#blatant display of ignorance!

harmonyedwards:
Ignoramus!
What do u want to grow in 4 weeks from blood culture?!
Na iroko tree u won culture?!
#blatant display of ignorance!

phantom: oga a house officer does not earn up to 180k.a reg barely earns 205k. please say the truth. are you saying a pharmacist earns about 60k? cos that's what you are implying.

YourHealthlabs:


Nobody is asking you what u earn in dollars, exchange rates are not stagnant. They are subjective many factors.

Morever an Intern doc earns more than the figure you posted there if converted today. A resident earns almost as twice as that figure. Let's say it way it is.

If you are ignorant tell us, i'll give you a sound lecture on the goings-on in the health sector. It's a pity you've lost media monopoly. People are wiser

Take your last advice, you need it more.

harmonyedwards:

Falsehood...
I dare you to the challenge u requested.
Starr the lecture...
I'll puncture holes through its contents and leave you for the masses to judge...
I am certain you wouldn't take this challenge.
A dollar is less than 170 naira...
but u can use 170.
You dont have to be scared doing the math... unless you wanna tell us your arithmethic is poor!
As for intern salary... it is even lower...
less than 900 dollars a month.
I use the dollars so people can compare with other climes if they wish...
ghana would not be far away to start with.

YourHealthlabs:

You use dollar fine, so it's no longer about relativity.You want to play the dollar game?

Why don't you tell Nigerians that the pharmacist can earn as much as $120,000 and a Scientist as much as $112,000 annually and that no resident abroad earn six-digits in dollars in other climes. Multiply those figures by your 170 and tell us how much it is.

It can't always be about you. Health system is multi-disciplinary.

Thank you.

YourHealthlabs:

So how many days does your own blood culture take in those quack accredited labs your physician set up in private capacity. 24hrs?..

No wonder you fight the Med lab council when they come to accredit those quack labs where you collect money,manufacture Scientist's signature and release fake lab result cos you are a dokita.
Some of you are pure criminals.

YourHealthlabs:

Again, like i told one of you on this forum,it is not about your personal opinion. Scientists work into the night taking calls, it is a global thing. That's the standard, you can keep your beliefs it is not relevant here...Sir.

I still maintain my stand on those figures and i'm not very far from the truth.

Finally the Science of Allopathic Medicine can not be relegated for Allopathic Medicine. One is as important as the other.

Thank you.

YourHealthlabs:

I obey the law, we are both under the law, but NMA continually flout court orders with unwarranted show of bravado.
In a sane society, physicians enjoy the empathy of people as they hardly break laws but you will agree with me that you are losing that empathy, the signs are there for us to see.
This is the first time NLC, TUC and general populace are standing up to physicians, don't you think something is wrong somewhere?, In some countries, teachers, oil workers and miners go on strike in lieu of physicians to press for doctor's rights.

On the University tertiary Act. The "medically qualified" is the term in contention as many school of thought believe that it does not refer to physicians alone in a multidisciplinary sector. JOHESU have gone to court, they've also referred to global best practices about who is qualified to become CMD, health ministers, and other portfolios that physicians greedily sit on.
Modern healthcare practice didn't start here in Nigeria. Let's conform to practices that carry everyone along.

You can't hold any educated group of professionals down for long. It has never worked and it won't work here in Nigeria.

YourHealthlabs:

You use dollar fine, so it's no longer about relativity.You want to play the dollar game?

Why don't you tell Nigerians that the pharmacist can earn as much as $120,000 and a Scientist as much as $112,000 annually and that no resident abroad earn six-digits in dollars in other climes. Multiply those figures by your 170 and tell us how much it is.

It can't always be about you. Health system is multi-disciplinary.

Thank you.

nobilis: Mr Liar-YourHealthLabs, a blood culture result can be ready within 24 to 48 hours. But can also be read again some days later like 7 to 14 days.
But yóur lazy ass laboratory sci-attendants keep such results till 4 weeks, from what you have said. May God save us us from lazy people masquerading as hardworking people and demanding more pay. You don't even know how long it takes for blood culture results to show yet u're parading as a lab scientist.
https://www.healthtap.com/topics/how-long-does-it-normally-take-to-get-blood-culture-results-back

Secondly u say doctors are oppressing you people.
Okay. You guys are saintly and innocent.
So I wonder who it was that used to oppress resident pathologists and bar them from working in d labs.
I also wonder who it is that bars resident radiologists from reading and interpreting radiological investigations at the University of abuja teaching hospital.

YourHealthlabs:

You use dollar fine, so it's no longer about relativity.You want to play the dollar game?

Why don't you tell Nigerians that the pharmacist can earn as much as $120,000 and a Scientist as much as $112,000 annually and that no resident abroad earn six-digits in dollars in other climes. Multiply those figures by your 170 and tell us how much it is.

It can't always be about you. Health system is multi-disciplinary.

Thank you.

YourHealthlabs:

Hahaha...you're looking for loopholes, because i revealed how our poorly trained doc write 'very very very very urgent' on Culture investigations as if it is a 15 mins pcv.

Blood culture 'prelim/provisional results' 'can' be released after 48 hours of incubation but the FINAL RESULT CAN'T be released before then. It is more of a continous study within time. Your 'very very urgent' can't work in situation like especially in our 1star labs.

Now, if you release a result after 48 hours and find a growth after 2 weeks of frequent subcultures of your BHI what happens then?. Blame the Scientist for not reporting a growth before it happened? as you alway do for your errors....you should think.

Blood culture is a costly test and takes FREQUENT SUBCULTURE and STUDY to achieve a final result and then close your Result booklet after documentation. So that Scientist can't be said to be lazy. He should be paid for the frequent study, even if you are contented with the 'P-result' which is not FINAL.
You should pay me for this free lessons

For your last p-graph. It is not worthy of a reply. I've thrashed them before.

harmonyedwards:

Very funny...
Mind u... I work in a tertiary hospital.
I can educate u!
I do not have a private hospital; however when I do, no clown masquerading as a laboratory scientist would even be allowed to breathe near my hospital entrance, let alone deceiving him or herself with delusions of grandeur, that he or she intends to accredit my laboratory.
Where on earth is it heard of that an intellectually immature mind is solicited to veto the work of geniuses? Please tell me! I pray thee!

harmonyedwards:


another display of ignorance!
Kindly post your source.
you also mentioned "scientists". Kindly clarify. Are u trying to group medical lab TECHNOLOGISTS under this umbrella?!
Forget that u modified the nomenclature over the years, borrowing the 'scientist' appellation. For all I care, a battery charger is also a scientist... at least he works with chemicals; the motor mechanic is also one... down to the most junior apprentice.
Do the lab scientists even understand the principles behind the tests they carry out; or they just follow some form of prescribed algorithm (designed by doctors, mind you) to carry out these tests?
I wouldn't blame you...
its because we have a government whose key actors are good examples of ignoramuses ambulating on 2 limbs...
members of the same plumage flock together, that's why they (government) are more in tune with you...JOHESU.
I still await you to provide evidence for the figures you quoted.
I can bet with one of my gluteus maximus that you are wrong!

phantom: my fellow docs please let us try as much as possible to put points across without insults.even when we are insulted let us try as much as possible not to do the same. let us calmly put our arguenents out there in front of the public. some of the allied professionals here are have shown some maturity and civility. yourhealthlabs and bumfem particularly. let us argue with maturity please. I call on both camps to give their opinions with civility and furnish links when they can thanks.

harmonyedwards:

Let me re-educate you so u for the safety of the masses...
Once u culture for more than 1 week and begin to grow NEW organisms, you most likely are culturing those in your dirty laboratory air and workbenches.
I as a doctor would not alter my treatment protocol because of that, neither would any doctor do, even if he's the dullest one.
Till date, the only group of organisms that take long to grow on APPROPRIATE agar are the non specific ones... Mycobacterium spp, chlamydia, mycoplasma, etc. Which may take up to 6 weeks for tb. Thats why we do our immunofluorescence assays, afb and mantoux!
You can culture your blood specimen for however long you wish... probably someday, the red blood cells would germinate!

YourHealthlabs:

Mr doctor, there are scientific methods of differentiating pure growths from contaminants in lab.
If i see a growth after a week of incubation on L-J media, i'll document my results and send it out. Whatever you do with your result is prerogative. We document for refrence too.

We've seen doctors sending patients to the lab to get a result that was done months ago.

I'll do mine following best procedures and document appropriately.

drobadebayo: Since Yourhealthlabs is so interested in international standards in which he had displayed paucity of knowledge. It's time for a Lil education in that American system he likes so much.
Highest paying nurse job is being a Nurse anaesthetisist-top salary is $135k in california(the best place to practise nursing)

http://nursinglink.monster.com/education/articles/2626-top-10-highest-paying-nursing-specialties

Top salary for lab scientists-$105k

http://money.cnn.com/pf/best-jobs/2012/snapshots/48.html

Pharmacists-$133k

http://money.cnn.com/gallery/pf/2012/11/01/top-paying-jobs/8.html

Physiotherapists-$115k in Las vegas(best place to practise PT if ur in it for the money)

Doctors-Surgeons are the highest paid workers in US.The least paid doctors are the pediatricians
Orthopedic surgeons average $464k and pediatricians $170k(not even as low as the highest paid nurse)
Am sure u hear of surgeons that make million dollars and more.


http://www.forbes.com/pictures/fefi45jmhh/no-1-orthopedic-surgery-7/

Now that's relativity,which we should apply in Nigeria since its international standards

harmonyedwards:


another display of ignorance!
Kindly post your source.
you also mentioned "scientists". Kindly clarify. Are u trying to group medical lab TECHNOLOGISTS under this umbrella?!
Forget that u modified the nomenclature over the years, borrowing the 'scientist' appellation. For all I care, a battery charger is also a scientist... at least he works with chemicals; the motor mechanic is also one... down to the most junior apprentice.
Do the lab scientists even understand the principles behind the tests they carry out; or they just follow some form of prescribed algorithm (designed by doctors, mind you) to carry out these tests?
I wouldn't blame you...
its because we have a government whose key actors are good examples of ignoramuses ambulating on 2 limbs...
members of the same plumage flock together, that's why they (government) are more in tune with you...JOHESU.
I still await you to provide evidence for the figures you quoted.
I can bet with one of my gluteus maximus that you are wrong!

YourHealthlabs:

Hahaha...Your fears are understandable, many of you were opening fake drugs shops in hospitals before the pharmacists harrased and paraded you before the law after throwing you the books and asking to memorize PCN concil act. That nonsense has abated

Same is gonna happen in our laboratories, we can't allow you to keep swindling our patients with fake lab results conducted by quacks parading as Scientists. You can be greater than Einstein, your biz..but you must SUBJECTED to the LAW.

Grab an Med lab. Council Act and start memorizing it, it is Federal law. You can't greatet than the Nigerians that adopted it and the President that signed it.
You are a NOBODY under the LAWS of the land. Quote me.
The MLSCouncil will do it's Job, whether you exist as a genius or a dreg.

YourHealthlabs:

Like i once mentioned, your Nigerian Law calls them Medical Lab Scientists or Scientist.ref MLSCN act. Section 4, 24

In U.S.A, it is Clinical Laboratory Scientists.

In Aussie, they are Medical Scientist
In U.K...it is Biomedical Scientist

The Nigerian Med lab curriculum equips you with principle of every lab proceedure. For instance I know that gram negative organisms possess thin peptidoglycan walls and therefore won't hold stains during gram proceedures, with this knowlege i can improvise, manipulate and draw out efficient methodology in the lab without compromising result quality. That's what makes me a Functional Scientist. Only a Scientist has this training.

A Scientist in UBTH have developed a diffent method of diagnosis in Parasitology, we were taught that during AIMLS conferences and CPD.

Finally, i don't care what you call me, it's not important. I care about what the LAW calls me.

Arriverderci.


*forgive my typos peeps, i'm in a hurry now*

harmonyedwards:


I laff in yoruba!!!
It's no use wasting calories on your case.
Just look deep within...
I'm sure the truth lurks within...
No matter how you try to mask it from the rest of the world.

YourHealthlabs:

I do not disagree with you. If u notice i have been hammering on intern and resident docs salary with other experienced health professionals.
The problem i have is an intern doc and resident earning more than an experienced Pharmacist, Scientists physios. It is not justifiable.

YourHealthlabs:

When you succeed in abrogating the law so you accurately call me a Scientist then you'll be right.
Till then you call me tech, i can call u a wardman, only those who feel insecure will bw fazed, they are all titles, our thoughts are not more important than the law.

I don't know what the law calls Surgeons in Nigeria in the to MDCN act, but they are addressed as 'Mr' in some advanced countries. You can educate us in that respect.

Thanks.

YourHealthlabs:

When you succeed in abrogating the law so you accurately call me a Scientist then you'll be right.
Till then you call me tech, i can call u a wardman, only those who feel insecure will bw fazed, they are all titles, our thoughts are not more important than the law.

I don't know what the law calls Surgeons in Nigeria in the to MDCN act, but they are addressed as 'Mr' in some advanced countries. You can educate us in that respect.

Thanks.