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Re: Super Eagles - The Way Forward by tbaba1234: 11:11pm On Jul 02, 2014 |
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Re: Super Eagles - The Way Forward by Mrchippychappy(m): 11:12pm On Jul 02, 2014 |
honeric01: See hate for Keshi, don't you think if you channel this your hate.filled mind for a man who doesn't know you exist into our power industry, we can generate at least 5,000 mega watt from the heat-filled hate of yours? Nigerians are fond of using words they don't properly understand . Crab Mentality? Am i advocating for a coach from another Nation ? |
Re: Super Eagles - The Way Forward by Nobody: 11:12pm On Jul 02, 2014 |
Yes;enyeama dropped the ball;but why criticize him openly?enyeama did veryy well @ d w/c and should be commended by hs coach and not condemned..tell me;amidst steven gerrard's flaws @ d w/c;did roy hogson place the blame on him or any of his squad players?fine;you dont want ike uche in "your" team;why scream it for the world to know he's indiscipline(something you and i know aint true)remember keshi led the mafia squad in the 90's.. tbaba1234: 2 Likes |
Re: Super Eagles - The Way Forward by Nobody: 11:14pm On Jul 02, 2014 |
Mr.chippychappy: Guy, I think you went a little asew with this one. I may agree with you on Amokachi, but Keshi......naaaah. I'll have to say you sound like you have beefs with Keshi. Again I will say, let us forget all this talk about IK UCHE. The man did not invite him and that is that. Every coach has his style and idiosyncrasies. But that does not make them Bad coaches. There are no assurances that IK would have delivered the goals if he were invited anyway. You saw how impotent he was at the AFCON. For crying out loud, this guy won the Afcon, a feat no Nigerian coach has achieved. And then you did mention that the SE performance was abysmal. Well, I don't know what TV or stadium you were watching your matches on but I think those boys, speaking on a general level, gave a good account of themselves especially considering nobody gave them a chance. And hey, Keshi managed to match our best ever performance at a World Cup. Again no Nigerian has managed that feat. I think you are a bit unfairly biased against Keshi. Personally I don't think he is the best coach for Nigeria. Infact I want him to leave. But then, I think that man Keshi deserves a lot of credit and appreciation. Only an ingrate will think otherwise. 4 Likes |
Re: Super Eagles - The Way Forward by tbaba1234: 11:14pm On Jul 02, 2014 |
tsolz84: Yes;enyeama dropped the ball;but why criticize him openly?enyeama did veryy well @ d w/c and should be commended by hs coach and not condemned..tell me;amidst steven gerrard's flaws @ d w/c;did roy hogson place the blame on him or any of his squad players?fine;you dont want ike uche in "your" team;why scream it for the world to know he's indiscipline(something you and i know aint true)remember keshi led the mafia squad in the 90's.. Ok, you do not like his PR skills He is still an achiever. 2 Likes |
Re: Super Eagles - The Way Forward by Mrchippychappy(m): 11:15pm On Jul 02, 2014 |
tsolz84: Yes;enyeama dropped the ball;but why criticize him openly?enyeama did veryy well @ d w/c and should be commended by hs coach and not condemned..tell me;amidst steven gerrard's flaws @ d w/c;did roy hogson place the blame on him or any of his squad players?fine;you dont want ike uche in "your" team;why scream it for the world to know he's indiscipline(something you and i know aint true)[size=20pt]remember keshi led the mafia squad in the 90's..[/size] Some of them are probably too young to remember how he got his nick name "the big boss" 2 Likes |
Re: Super Eagles - The Way Forward by tbaba1234: 11:16pm On Jul 02, 2014 |
Mr.chippychappy: Keshi fought for his players. He is a leader. 1 Like |
Re: Super Eagles - The Way Forward by bumdish: 11:17pm On Jul 02, 2014 |
emiye: Thanks jare, the guy they vex me. I didn't even add that the first CHAN tournament ever for Nigeria 1 Like |
Re: Super Eagles - The Way Forward by Nihilist: 11:18pm On Jul 02, 2014 |
tbaba1234: Stop Lying. We had the 2nd best squad on paper in our group and are the reigning African Champions. The general consensus was an Argie 1st, Naija 2nd finish. And you cannot deny that the Nigeria Squad of 2014 is far more exposed than the team of 1994. So why is it unreasonable to expect a better performance from the 2014 squad? 3 Likes |
Re: Super Eagles - The Way Forward by Nobody: 11:20pm On Jul 02, 2014 |
GBAM!!!steven Gerrard's mistake cost england a place in the round of 16;roy hogson never placed the blame on him..balotelli squandered so many chances @ the w/c;prandelli never criticized him;Alexis sanchez missed a penalty;chile's coach didnt utter a word!must keshi criticize his players?mikel and reuben were running like headless chickens;yobo scored an own goal;he never criticized them..he won the nations cup;and he took all the glory;but whenever the sail aint smooth;he looks for someone to place the blames on Mr.chippychappy: 2 Likes |
Re: Super Eagles - The Way Forward by Mrchippychappy(m): 11:21pm On Jul 02, 2014 |
tbaba1234: Yeah right . Keshi became a demi-god in the SE team of the early 90's that's how he got that nickname . He was the founding father of the SE mafia 2 Likes |
Re: Super Eagles - The Way Forward by tbaba1234: 11:24pm On Jul 02, 2014 |
Nihilist: I heard many people who tipped bosnia ahead of Nigeria. Far more exposed but so are other teams. 1994 is not 2014. Many of our players do not even regular places in their teams. We have no stars in the 2014 team. Finidi was the best right winger in the world. The 1994 was higher on the FIFA rankings, beat a highly rated romanian team in the warm up games. Expectations were much higher in 1994, because it was the first time. 2 Likes |
Re: Super Eagles - The Way Forward by Nobody: 11:29pm On Jul 02, 2014 |
Nobody is disputing that fact bro;keshi is definitely an achiever;but the SE is not keshi's property;we nigerians have the right to criticize the team whenever the coach aint getting it right!keshi's biggest problem is his "ego"..and to me;keshi has lost it;i dont believe he can lead us better than this.he can do well in africa;probably win the afcon again;but when it comes to outside the continent;he's lost.. tbaba1234: |
Re: Super Eagles - The Way Forward by tbaba1234: 11:30pm On Jul 02, 2014 |
Mr.chippychappy: He was the captain, the leader he fought for his players with the then NFA. He never had problems with the coaches. 1 Like |
Re: Super Eagles - The Way Forward by MORNDEW(m): 11:30pm On Jul 02, 2014 |
The person who wrote this article knows nothing abt football the only tin he knows is his hatred on keshi. But shame to him. Sunday oliseh should coach eagles on wht basis where has he proven himself. Or u dey advertise who know send u work. So if dey call football analyst u go come out. SMH. Keshi has done somethin no oda coach has done in dis country nd all u do is to write trash as if u know hw to coach. I was surprised u neva wrote foreign coach cos ppl like u ar inferior to white. Let me tell u, nonsense wont change Keshis achievement. Rubbish. 2 Likes |
Re: Super Eagles - The Way Forward by tbaba1234: 11:35pm On Jul 02, 2014 |
The greatest indigenous coach this country has ever produced, yet he gets no respect. Let us go get our paper ' world class coach' Bora Militonovic et al As if UEFA certificate guarantees success. Signing off.. 3 Likes |
Re: Super Eagles - The Way Forward by Douglasdale(m): 11:36pm On Jul 02, 2014 |
Mr.chippychappy:Oga can u please tell the whole world why your chairman Sunday Oliseh was not called up for the 2002 world cup in Japan and South Korea? 2 Likes |
Re: Super Eagles - The Way Forward by Nihilist: 11:40pm On Jul 02, 2014 |
tbaba1234: This doesn't make any sense. How can you more from the inexperienced 94 side than from the 2014 side that boasts of several players who ply their trade in Europe's top leagues? And stop lying about Finidi. As at USA 94, he had just completed his 1st season in Europe, having just signed for Ajax from Sharks of Port-Harcourt. It was in the season immediately following the World Cup that he was to start gaining his reputation as the so called best winger in the world, when he won the 94/95 champions league with Ajax. My brother I can tell from your submissions that football is not your forte. I think you should focus on your regular Islamic sermons. 2 Likes |
Re: Super Eagles - The Way Forward by Nobody: 11:43pm On Jul 02, 2014 |
He fought for the players he loved..he never fought for all the players;disunity cost us a lot @ USA 94;and keshi was behind it all..I don’t believe in this discipline stuff that keshi is singing rather I see a coach like a teacher who reforms any bad-attitude player like how Sir Alex Ferguson handle Wayne Rooney.I disagreed with Stephen Keshi way of handling issues..A coach to me is like a teacher,father and mentor in any team.He must know each player by his actions and attitudes..We all aware of the negative roles of Keshi as Naija skipper;we only won the 94 nations cup because the coach dropped him from the starting line up for better players like Chidi Nwanu but that does not mean he did not contribute greatly to the national team during his reign Mr.chippychappy: 1 Like |
Re: Super Eagles - The Way Forward by Douglasdale(m): 11:43pm On Jul 02, 2014 |
We all know where this OP(off point) is coming from... Oliseh has started soliciting for the SE job already. We know their types. All these broke ex players looking to have a bite at the juicy cherry. If we want the best... We should be talking about hiring Klinsmann or even Westanhoff and not some jobless certificate carrying ex player who wants to learn on the job. Let them start from warri wolves and the likes first. |
Re: Super Eagles - The Way Forward by tbaba1234: 11:44pm On Jul 02, 2014 |
Nihilist: What was the ranking of 1994 team going into. USA 94?? |
Re: Super Eagles - The Way Forward by Nobody: 11:45pm On Jul 02, 2014 |
The way forward for Nigerian football,I believe,should be trying to make sure we have professional footballers playing for the team and not just mere footballers. I know you are about to ask ,are our foreign based players not pros? well,they are pros by the definition of it but in terms of living up to that name,they are not..you can not compare the leadership qualities of a Mikel to that of a pogba. Nigerian footballers have no urgency in their system,they way they play while winning 1-0 is also the way they will play while losing 1-0...imagine if it had been a French player that was crudely injured by a Nigerian player,you would have seen about 6 players around the incident harassing the Nigerian player while another 2 will be asking seriously for a red card while the whole French bench would have gone ballistic.we have a mikel(why i liked you as a footballer,i really don't know) who is busy forming "Big Boy" in eagles camp but once ref starts cheating his team,he starts forming obedient student,hand behind back speaking phonetics....that is why a sunday Mba as soon as he felt he has arrived a little,decides to start coming late to camp,a victor moses who after 1st few games for Nigeria showed loads of promise,signed for glo,spends a few weeks in Nigeria amongst Nigerian girls and suddenly cant get a game ahead of sterling and henderson(chei ).. Our players dont take the National team seriously.See the Brazilian squad,filled up with winners but still cry when the sing the National Anthem and in the case of david luiz,scream the National Anthem,you have the case of Aturo Vidal,not fit but still trying to die for Chile while our own Mikel at 110% fitness,cant run faster than a drunk snail. How did players like Yobo,Uchebo,Gabriel make the team?How did a nation that produced Celestine babayaro,Ben iroha end up not being able to produce full backs that can run the flanks and produce decent crosses? How can Nation that Produced jayJay and Etim Esin also produce mikel? How did a nation that produce Uche Gentle Giant Okechukwu,keshi,Ben Iroha end up producing Yobo? Our problems go deep beyond having players and as long as our players refuse to learn that the success of the nation leads to a successful career,we will be in for a very long wait in our desire to relive the 94 team... |
Re: Super Eagles - The Way Forward by Nobody: 11:45pm On Jul 02, 2014 |
tbaba1234:5th |
Re: Super Eagles - The Way Forward by tbaba1234: 11:46pm On Jul 02, 2014 |
In April 1994, Nigeria was ranked 5th in the world. |
Re: Super Eagles - The Way Forward by tbaba1234: 11:47pm On Jul 02, 2014 |
Number 5, yet some people are telling us they overachieved. 1 Like |
Re: Super Eagles - The Way Forward by Nobody: 11:48pm On Jul 02, 2014 |
Mr.chippychappy: |
Re: Super Eagles - The Way Forward by Nobody: 11:49pm On Jul 02, 2014 |
Nihilist: Fair enough. |
Re: Super Eagles - The Way Forward by ZUBY77(m): 11:53pm On Jul 02, 2014 |
bumdish: [size=16pt]You spoilt your analysis by discrediting Keshi, a man that has achieved what no Nigerian and indeed no African, dead or alive has ever achieved. [/size] This is one problem with you Africans..misunderstanding and silly arguments. the op gave you reasons why keshi is not good for us while you jumped to his achievements.. Di Matteo won Champions league and was shown the door. Rafa Benitez won Europa and was shown the door.. Avram grant played champions league final and was also dismissed. sometimes you have to learn to manage your best players even if they are sturborn. where did keshi study coaching? He almost left Osaze out of worldcup.. wasnt osaze our best playet in brazil? his obiedient uchebo and azeez what did they do there? he left the hardworking sunday Mba with silly excuse..left uche with silly excuse..suarez bite ivanovic and went to world cup .if ike uche bite someone. keshi will shoot him..balloteli went to world cup... ghana sent home their two best players and lost against portugal..match every bookmaker tipped them to win. sometimes we have to forget what we want and do what is right. |
Re: Super Eagles - The Way Forward by Nobody: 11:54pm On Jul 02, 2014 |
Nihilist: Keshi for me is too tactically naive, and his naïveté was woefully exposed at the WC this summer. |
Re: Super Eagles - The Way Forward by Nobody: 11:54pm On Jul 02, 2014 |
Nihilist: Almost Every member of the 94 team was a starter in their respective clubs and most had just gone to europe after winning the nations cup 1 Like |
Re: Super Eagles - The Way Forward by Nihilist: 12:01am On Jul 03, 2014 |
tbaba1234: This is why I said you're very naive when it comes to football. Fifa rankings were introduced in August 93 You don't expect a system that was barely a year old to be an accurate representation of team strength. For your info, Norway was ranked No 2 in the world in 1993. Nigeria were African champs in 1993, and with no previous reference for the Fifa ranking, it's not surprising they were ranked that high. |
Re: Super Eagles - The Way Forward by nonjebose(m): 12:05am On Jul 03, 2014 |
I have tried to read most of the comments so far. My candid opinion is that we should continue the same plan used by keshi. Contnuous process of discovering,injecting and moulding of new players into the team. It can be sustained by reviewing the activities of agents in recruiting young,promising and susceptible players to absurd and unproductive leagues. |
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