Abel202: [b]My people,
Its like ethnicity has so blinded many of you that you even fail to comprehend what is written here.
The whole article is based on assumption and insinuations that it is the Nigerian students based in Malaysia that are scamming the love-hungry western women, but does their facts prove them right?
1. The western women said (& believed) they were dating "American men".
2. The said women hadly ever met the "American men".
3. Even the woman that visited Malaysia was further scammed by a "White Lady" porporting to be the lawyer of the "American man".
4. The US officials said the Malaysians lacked the capability to track and prove that these acts were actualy being perpetrated by Nigerian students. Although at diffeerent points they have raided and arrested a few Nigerian students for one reason or the other.

QUESTION IS:
How did the Writer of the article became THE ONE THAT SEES AND KNOWS ALL THINGS, to determine and accertain without any equivocation that the said crime was being committed by Nigerians.
Since the victims never said their predators were Nigerians, and the Malaysian authorities never affirmed categorically that the perpetrators were Nigerians either. Even the US affirmed that the Malaysian authorities lacked the capacity to actualy investigate and prosecute the criminals; SO HOW DID THE WRITER OF THIS ARTICLE CAME ABOUT THE FACT THAT THE SCAMMERS ARE ALL OR MOSTLY NIGERIANS?
HOW? Oh I forgot, America knows all things, abi?

Useless write up being digested by unquestioning people.

Truth is that We Nigerians are the smartest people on earth and I have no freaking apologies for that.
Some Nigerian haters can go ahead to paint us as black as they like, it will not stop us from being the great people we are. It will not stop their women from loving us. It will not stop intelligent people all over the globe from doing business with us.
Whether you love us or hate us, I dont give a damn. Continue to malign us at your own peril. Anuofias!!![/b]

You raised some valid points, but then again it the typical Nigeria way. Fault truths told just for our own gain.

I dnt knw if u ve ever been to Malaysia or u presently live there... if u do, then u will just read and acknowledge because out of every 10 Nigerians in Malaysia, 1 is doing phd, 2 doing masters and the other 7 are criminals. That is just the truth.

im new here tho and is dis how u guys abuse each other ?

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naija i hail the, the only country you see an honorable as a member of robbery gang

begwong: Where do the scammers end up spending the proceeds
Malay!

Abi nah.

I wonder why the report is one-sided. From A to Z, it failed to mention how the so-called Nigerians or Africans had contributed positively to the rapid growth and advancements in their country. Bunch of useless mofoz.

I'm outa here.

MY PEOPLE HAS DONE THE JUSTICE. I DON'T NEED TO COMMENT.

#I HAIL MY PEOPLE FOR THE BASHING GIVEN TO THE IBO

alubarika...your mercies is all I see

But truth be told, what Nigerians do in Malaysia is just non-sense. I mean you'll see local boys in another mans country driving range rovers and other bad A.S.S cars. They have no jobs , they don't even go to school, nothing to cover up with and yet the live like kings there. They sometimes fight , break bottles and stab themselves in the clubs. I mean it's just terrible. Nigerians are just.......................

... On a different note, I still keep wondering what the Nigerian con men do with their cash. I mean, if I had 30millon naira, by God, its just a matter of time befor my name becomes house hold. I mean, I see guys spend millions in clubs, but very few investments by young men.

Was at KL sm time last year.... sitting and looking at the Nigerians there, I just wonder. Looking dirty, unkept and high.

I guess ill gotten money can only bring one ill luck. They party, they drink, they womanize, at best, buy cars and move into a Behind condo, then after few mnths they kicked out and are back on the streets. Its just sad

mgbeketoto: I beta hold on to my NIGGA BLOKOS O!
I never knew they were in such high demand.
So WHITE women are paying millions for illiterate, NIGERIAN blokoses in MALAYSIA kwa nu?

Wonders!

Didn't you read the article? It says these naija guys disguise themselves as American men.

bootstrap:

You raised some valid points, but then again it the typical Nigeria way. Fault truths told just for our own gain.

I dnt knw if u ve ever been to Malaysia or u presently live there... if u do, then u will just read and acknowledge because out of every 10 Nigerians in Malaysia, 1 is doing phd, 2 doing masters and the other 7 are criminals. That is just the truth.

[b]My dear, the point am trying to make is that whether the Nigerians in Malaysia are realy the culprits or not, until there is a valid investigation that proves such, then all this write up is mere speculation. Until they are able to prove that these crimes are being committed by mostly Nigerians, then these are mere speculations.
Granted that Nigerians are very smart and are now sophisticated enough to do what they are doing in Malaysia without being caught. I dont want to go into the morality or otherwise of their actions as everyone knows that crime and fraud is bad; But I maintain that Unless and Untill it is proven beyond every reasonable doubt that any crime is being committed by a Nigerian, no one has the right whatsoever to conjour up a sensationalised write up against my people and you expect me to clap for the person. Hell No!!!
If these westerners are as intelligent and as sophisticated as they have always claimed to be since time immemorial, then how come they claim that the Nigerians always end up outsmarting them and they keep crying blue murder without being able to prove beyond every reasonable doubt that it is the Nigerians that are doing all these?[/b]

begwong: Where do the scammers end up spending the proceeds

Good question. Most of it is spent right here in Naija, mostly in Lagos (and partly in Ibadan). A huge chunk of it is squandered in clubs and hotels across the Island and Mainland (or in the case of Ibadan, across Ring Road, Challenge, and Bodija), while the remainder goes to runs girls, pretty bank cashiers/account officers , and just about every fuckable female that crosses their path.

i put it to you that this is rubbish,i don't know why seun would immediately move things that slander nigerian image to the first page
if a woman eats a mans money its not a fraud ,so if a man eats a womans money in the name of love its equally not fraud.

Vivalavida99: By Stuart Grudgings

KUALA LUMPUR (Reuters) - Hundreds of American women are being ensnared by Internet scammers based in Malaysia, with some losing over a quarter of a million dollars, as the country becomes an epicenter for online crime perpetrated by Africans, U.S. officials say.

The mostly Nigerian conmen, who enter Malaysia on student visas, take advantage of the country's good Internet infrastructure to prey on lonely, middle-aged women, wooing them on dating websites before swindling their savings, they said.

The scams are more sophisticated than most Nigeria-based operations - which most Internet users have experienced at some time either via email or advertising - helped by Malaysia's advanced banking system, which allows perpetrators to quickly set up accounts and receive international transfers.

U.S. officials say Malaysian police lack the resources and expertise to tackle the problem and have yet to launch a single prosecution of a case involving a U.S. victim.

Malaysian police were reported by local media last December as saying that the number of Internet scam cases more than doubled in 2013 with total losses of more than $11 million. A total of 476 Africans had been apprehended for suspected involvement, the report said.

The Malaysian police and the Nigerian embassy in Kuala Lumpur did not respond to Reuters' request for comment. A spokesman for Nigeria's Economic and Financial Crimes Commission said he was not aware of scammers operating in Malaysia, but added they were known to have international networks.

Tim Scherer, consul general at the U.S. embassy in Kuala Lumpur, told Reuters that complaints about such scams now made up more than 80 percent of inquiries to duty officers at the mission, with a dozen new cases reported every week.

Citizens of Australia, Canada and Europe had also been targeted, he said.

"These are not rich widows who are being preyed on, these are middle-class Americans who don't have this kind of money to spare," he said. "It can really transform their lives in a very terrible way."

The U.S. embassy estimates that U.S. victims are losing several million dollars a year, with two women in the past 12 months losing more than $250,000 each. There are more than 600 cases a year, and the amount lost by each victim averages in the tens of thousands of dollars, it said.

The actual figure of total losses is probably far higher, Scherer said, because many victims are too embarrassed to come forward or do not know who to contact. He said the scammers were highly sophisticated, often grooming victims for months and using convincing techniques such as forging letters purportedly from the U.S. ambassador in Malaysia.

FAKE ROMANCE

Large teams of scammers typically trawl dating or Christian websites and contact middle-aged women, the U.S. officials said. They pretend to be a Western man who then gets into legal or business difficulties in Muslim-majority Malaysia.

One U.S. victim told Reuters she transferred a total of$260,000 to Malaysia, where the man who claimed to love her said he was being prevented from returning to the United States by Malaysian bureaucracy - which required hefty payments to negotiate.

The 59-year-old widow from Phoenix, Arizona, who declined to be identified, said she had gone heavily into debt to make the payments to "Charles", and even flew to Malaysia in March to meet him. He never showed up, but a European woman claiming to be his lawyer managed to bilk another $25,000 out of the woman before she returned to Arizona.

Another victim, a women in her late 50s in the eastern United States, said she sent her life savings of $300,000 over two months to a Malaysia-based "American" man she met on dating site Match.com, three years after her husband died.

"I felt like I was in love with this man and we'd be moving forward with a life together real soon," she told Reuters.

Match.com did not respond to a Reuters request for comment. Along with other major U.S.-based dating sites, it features prominent warnings about scammers, specifically telling users to be wary of people who say they are Americans based abroad.

STUDENT SCAM

The conmen have exploited Malaysia's drive to become a global education hub, securing student visas to attend college, the U.S. officials said.

Malaysia has pursued a policy of attracting international students for more than a decade, allowing dozens of foreign colleges to set up Malaysian campuses.

Scherer said it was likely that many of the Nigerians in Malaysia were not genuine students. As of March, there were 9,146 Nigerians on student visas in Malaysia, the education ministry said, out of 123,000 overseas students in total.

"Once in the country as students, there's very little effort to verify their studies," Scherer said.

An official with Malaysia's education ministry said that last year it tightened its vetting and tracking of overseas students.

"We are aware of problems with some international students, especially Nigerians," the official said.

(Additional reporting by Tim Cocks in LAGOS; Editing by Jeremy Laurence)




https://reuters/news/american-women-targeted-malaysia-becomes-internet-scam-haven-210519106.html

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E-WAR zone.. keep off

Abel202:

[b]My dear, the point am trying to make is that whether the Nigerians in Malaysia are realy the culprits or not, until there is a valid investigation that proves such, then all this write up is mere speculation. Until they are able to prove that these crimes are being committed by mostly Nigerians, then these are mere speculations.
Granted that Nigerians are very smart and are now sophisticated enough to do what they are doing in Malaysia without being caught. I dont want to go into the morality or otherwise of their actions as everyone knows that crime and fraud is bad; But I maintain that Unless and Untill it is proven beyond every reasonable doubt that any crime is being committed by a Nigerian, no one has the right whatsoever to conjour up a sensationalised write up against my people and you expect me to clap for the person. Hell No!!!
If these westerners are as intelligent and as sophisticated as they have always claimed to be since time immemorial, then how come they claim that the Nigerians always end up outsmarting them and they keep crying blue murder without being able to prove beyond every reasonable doubt that it is the Nigerians that are doing all these?[/b]

You have a right to be patriotic.

Foreigners in turn have the right to protect themselves and fish out the bad eggs in their community.

Sometimes they smear everyone with their paintbrush sometimes our criminal-minded compatriots do the same.

We are not known for Information Technology not because of any propaganda. We are not known for Auto manufacturing or any high-end business, again for similar reasons.

Nigerians are not the only set of people committing fraud and it would be foolhardy to think we are the sole exponents of financial crime.

Yet, this article is not about Namibians, Neptunians (if they exist) but about Nigerians who perpetrate these crimes.

There is no statistical yardstick available to me to say we are the biggest proponents of fraud but i would rather we are stereotyped for being best farmers or fashionistas than fraudsters.

Does this stereotype change simply by denial?..Hell No!

Would it change with my write-up? Not likely.

What would change this reputation of ours would be the widespread condemnation of any and every caught up in the nefarious act and a preponderance of positive Nigerian images propelled by an innate need to be different and be different in a positive way.

Abel202:

[b]My dear, the point am trying to make is that whether the Nigerians in Malaysia are realy the culprits or not, until there is a valid investigation that proves such, then all this write up is mere speculation. Until they are able to prove that these crimes are being committed by mostly Nigerians, then these are mere speculations.
Granted that Nigerians are very smart and are now sophisticated enough to do what they are doing in Malaysia without being caught. I dont want to go into the morality or otherwise of their actions as everyone knows that crime and fraud is bad; But I maintain that Unless and Untill it is proven beyond every reasonable doubt that any crime is being committed by a Nigerian, no one has the right whatsoever to conjour up a sensationalised write up against my people and you expect me to clap for the person. Hell No!!!
If these westerners are as intelligent and as sophisticated as they have always claimed to be since time immemorial, then how come they claim that the Nigerians always end up outsmarting them and they keep crying blue murder without being able to prove beyond every reasonable doubt that it is the Nigerians that are doing all these?[/b]

You now nothing, I can give you the informations that this guys are from nigeria because some make some mistakes where you see that they come from a country where the people learn british english and not american english, I can give you photos of this guys and we know that sometimes they put two victimes together that they get the money.
I can tell you also guys who make it from nigeria I can give you names for me it is not important if he is Igbo or yoruba or hause or...... all what is he is nigerian and this 419 put a bad face on all good nigerians that is it.
I know how many nigerian guys are at the moment in Malaysia but since this year the Universities didnot want students from nigeria, did you know why.