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Re: Do African People Even Care About Tradition, Culture, Language And Heritage Stil by kingston277(m): 7:12pm On Jul 15, 2014 |
pickabeau1:Not at all, never met him before. In fact I question how often he speaks to others like this on NL. The guy needs some home training from an ifa priest. |
Re: Do African People Even Care About Tradition, Culture, Language And Heritage Stil by pickabeau1: 9:03pm On Jul 15, 2014 |
kingston277:Not speaking for anyone.... Generally the afro centrics on NL tend to be very rude and have a superiority complex In africa people r all trying to eat.. culture comes second |
Re: Do African People Even Care About Tradition, Culture, Language And Heritage Stil by TerryCarr(m): 10:09pm On Jul 15, 2014 |
kingston277:but thats east Africa it more sense since you're at the world trade routes. while it west africa it was rivers |
Re: Do African People Even Care About Tradition, Culture, Language And Heritage Stil by TerryCarr(m): 10:21pm On Jul 15, 2014 |
pickabeau1:just because you live like this and they live like this does not mean you are greater than them 2 Likes |
Re: Do African People Even Care About Tradition, Culture, Language And Heritage Stil by kingston277(m): 10:26pm On Jul 15, 2014 |
TerryCarr:Those are sierra leone pictures. |
Re: Do African People Even Care About Tradition, Culture, Language And Heritage Stil by kingston277(m): 10:33pm On Jul 15, 2014 |
pickabeau1:Some are, due to the wild achievement claims they believe in, while others just don't like people insulting their forefathers especially if they have built advanced civilizations. In africa people r all trying to eat.. culture comes secondCulture is an integral way of development. I'm sure the pic of those kids I posted would love to live in those houses and eat the abundance of food they have. 1 Like |
Re: Do African People Even Care About Tradition, Culture, Language And Heritage Stil by TerryCarr(m): 10:48pm On Jul 15, 2014 |
kingston277:your not gonna cross the Atlantic in a boat that big & there world be no reason too. plus it is probably a fishing boat or a river boat |
Re: Do African People Even Care About Tradition, Culture, Language And Heritage Stil by pickabeau1: 12:45am On Jul 16, 2014 |
kingston277: Yes,... africa had great civilisations... i know this and this should be celebrated and taught in schools If you dont know where you are coming from, how can you know where you are going.... However some of their attitude leaves much to be desired |
Re: Do African People Even Care About Tradition, Culture, Language And Heritage Stil by TerryCarr(m): 1:16am On Jul 16, 2014 |
pickabeau1:like what? Rome was no saint, a lot of things they did was pretty cruel but they are still glorified. |
Re: Do African People Even Care About Tradition, Culture, Language And Heritage Stil by pickabeau1: 7:36am On Jul 16, 2014 |
TerryCarr: Dude who spoke of Rome Some of the Afrocentrics here like you..with offensive language |
Re: Do African People Even Care About Tradition, Culture, Language And Heritage Stil by Nobody: 10:04am On Jul 16, 2014 |
pickabeau1:He obviously has a beef with Today's Africans. Let him state his issues clearly rather than quoting people and being argumentative. |
Re: Do African People Even Care About Tradition, Culture, Language And Heritage Stil by Nobody: 10:08am On Jul 16, 2014 |
Fulaman198:And has he given any suggestion/recommendation to africa's current problem? Is migration the answer? |
Re: Do African People Even Care About Tradition, Culture, Language And Heritage Stil by pickabeau1: 10:09am On Jul 16, 2014 |
Let me re quote what i said earlier... Survival first What has surprsed me is that no one has mentioned anything about the intangibles which is even more than clothes and feeding This is what the extremist afrocentrics dont get Values is what determines culture TYoday we know of the doggedness of the Japanese who rose from the ashes of WW2 and rebilt their nation Was it becuase of the kimono and samurai swords?? .. puhleezeee This is my last post here as dudes here are rude and caustic pickabeau1: |
Re: Do African People Even Care About Tradition, Culture, Language And Heritage Stil by Nobody: 10:25am On Jul 16, 2014 |
kingston277:Go and read about the history and culture of the itshekiri's. Till today, they do not call themselves yorubas even though they bare slighty yoruba names and slightly speak yoruba. Also read about the current culture of the yoruba community in brazil who settled there after the slave trade,read on whether they've advanced so far and see if their culture has not been tinted with the Brazilian culture(s). Then watch what will happen to that small village in U.S from the next 50-100 years. If a culture has to be promoted, its best done from home. Adefunmi should have gone back home but he chose to dilute his culture by establishing it on a foreign soil. You think that village will not be subject to western influence on the long run? Regarding your last statement, I don't know what you are talking about. Your insinuations are based on unreasonable assumptions! |
Re: Do African People Even Care About Tradition, Culture, Language And Heritage Stil by Nobody: 10:36am On Jul 16, 2014 |
kingston277:And who told you I skipped Saudi Arabia, did I not say in my earlier post that the arabians have one language and one religion-Islam that makes it easier for them to stick to their dressing and islamic culture regardless of their technological advancements? Can you compare them to africa or nigeria?It seems you have issues communicating effectively and comprehending points simply because you have differing opinions. Call it baseless-I DON'T CARE! Regarding western influence on china, I don't have video links because I'm encouraging you to read more. If you like, call these articles baseless. loooool. www.echinacities.com/expat-corner/A-More-Western-China-4-Areas-Where-the-West-Has-Impacted-China www.pbs.org/newshour/bb/world-jan-june12-china_02-13/ |
Re: Do African People Even Care About Tradition, Culture, Language And Heritage Stil by Nobody: 10:40am On Jul 16, 2014 |
kingston277:oh, but its okay for you to be arrogant and ignorant about basically everything. Your narrow mindedness is appalling. Sounding more like a bigot now. What else should we know about the canadian wanabe? kingston277:oh, but its okay for you to be arrogant and ignorant about basically everything. Your narrow mindedness is appalling. Sounding more like a bigot now. What else should we know about the canadian wanabe? |
Re: Do African People Even Care About Tradition, Culture, Language And Heritage Stil by kingston277(m): 3:15pm On Jul 16, 2014 |
TerryCarr:They have made the trip to Spain and the Canaries several times before. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hXU28K1gTpc http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/1540084/Canary-Islands-illegal-immigrants-heading-here-Home-Office-memo-warns.html Visitors in the 19th century confirmed they are sea-faring vessels https://www.nairaland.com/1796503/traditional-african-boat-designs Heck, the Oba of Benin even used to sail to the Kongo for meetings. |
Re: Do African People Even Care About Tradition, Culture, Language And Heritage Stil by kingston277(m): 8:51pm On Jul 16, 2014 |
koyyes: And who told you I skipped Saudi Arabia, did I not say in my earlier post that the arabians have one language and one religion-Islam that makes it easier for them to stick to their dressing and islamic culture regardless of their technological advancements? Can you compare them to africa or nigeria?It seems you have issues communicating effectively and comprehending points simply because you have differing opinions. Call it baseless-I DON'T CARE! Regarding western influence on china, I don't have video links because I'm encouraging you to read more. If you like, call these articles baseless. loooool. www.echinacities.com/expat-corner/A-More-Western-China-4-Areas-Where-the-West-Has-Impacted-China www.pbs.org/newshour/bb/world-jan-june12-china_02-13/What difference does that make? It's about Saudi Arabia vs. the West. Who cares if they borrow clothes from neighbours, that wasn't even in your argument. And those links tell us nothing about western influence in China. Again, borrowing inventions and restaurant chains do not constitute being influenced. China just finished banning western video game consoles and television, So I don't think chowing down on Mcfries is going to transform them in something unrecognizable to traditionalists. Thats if they even change at all. |
Re: Do African People Even Care About Tradition, Culture, Language And Heritage Stil by kingston277(m): 8:53pm On Jul 16, 2014 |
koyyes: oh, but its okay for you to be arrogant and ignorant about basically everything. Your narrow mindedness is appalling. Sounding more like a bigot now. What else should we know about the canadian wanabe? oh, but its okay for you to be arrogant and ignorant about basically everything. Your narrow mindedness is appalling. Sounding more like a bigot now. What else should we know about the canadian wanabe?It gets funnier every time. Still waiting for your peer-reviewed sources to back up your claims. |
Re: Do African People Even Care About Tradition, Culture, Language And Heritage Stil by kingston277(m): 8:57pm On Jul 16, 2014 |
koyyes: And has he given any suggestion/recommendation to africa's current problem? Is migration the answer?Since you are hell bent on your unfounded opinions. How could I make suggestions that I could expect you to pay any attention to? The links are non-debatable by historians and make you look silly. |
Re: Do African People Even Care About Tradition, Culture, Language And Heritage Stil by TerryCarr(m): 9:50pm On Jul 16, 2014 |
pickabeau1: Let me re quote what i said earlier...no it was there cultural mentality & and American money. India is dirt but they still value there culture. and it's not just clothes it's also language https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLfPuc6_2OI |
Re: Do African People Even Care About Tradition, Culture, Language And Heritage Stil by Nobody: 9:59pm On Jul 16, 2014 |
kingston277:I never used the 'word' unrecognizable! Stop exergerating to prove your point!If their clothing today doesn't depict some level of western influence to you, then that's your cup of tea! |
Re: Do African People Even Care About Tradition, Culture, Language And Heritage Stil by Nobody: 10:04pm On Jul 16, 2014 |
kingston277:just as amusing as the bunch of lies you've spewed to show how silly you are. |
Re: Do African People Even Care About Tradition, Culture, Language And Heritage Stil by Nobody: 10:06pm On Jul 16, 2014 |
kingston277:just as amusing as the bunch of lies you've spewed to show how silly you are. |
Re: Do African People Even Care About Tradition, Culture, Language And Heritage Stil by Nobody: 10:08pm On Jul 16, 2014 |
kingston277:Just admit it- you have no recommendation because you lack pure knowledge and can't even comprehend the information in the links you've pasted here. Sad though! |
Re: Do African People Even Care About Tradition, Culture, Language And Heritage Stil by TerryCarr(m): 10:25pm On Jul 16, 2014 |
pickabeau1:you don't value cultures to much do you? excluding the Americas most African nations are probably the most "Westernized" places ever with a third world twist. going to a Asian nation (rich or poor) is like is not a whole other experience. the sad fact is nobody goes to Africa experience cultures, or history (unless it's Egypt) they go to see the lions. most Asia nations on the other head is a culture shock. anyway Africans need to find a African solution to a African problem. Bhutan is an interesting nation https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rcoQjoZ6toI |
Re: Do African People Even Care About Tradition, Culture, Language And Heritage Stil by kingston277(m): 10:32pm On Jul 16, 2014 |
koyyes: I never used the 'word' unrecognizable! Stop exergerating to prove your point!If their clothing today doesn't depict some level of western influence to you, then that's your cup of tea!I can put on kente cloth if I like. Still doesn't make me anymore African influenced than before I put it on. You have a weird perception of how people think, the Chinese aren't as ignorant of their culture as you. |
Re: Do African People Even Care About Tradition, Culture, Language And Heritage Stil by Nobody: 11:00pm On Jul 16, 2014 |
kingston277:You sound like a stark illiterate right now. Your lack of understanding about what western influence means is so bad that I'm beginning to doubt your sanity! |
Re: Do African People Even Care About Tradition, Culture, Language And Heritage Stil by pickabeau1: 11:11pm On Jul 16, 2014 |
Insulting others you know nothing of is that cultural? |
Re: Do African People Even Care About Tradition, Culture, Language And Heritage Stil by kingston277(m): 11:43pm On Jul 16, 2014 |
koyyes: Just admit it- you have no recommendation because you lack pure knowledge and can't even comprehend the information in the links you've pasted here. Sad though!The links have all the answers for you. But since you insist, I will explain scholarly views and I will post links/quotes to back them up. I hope you're learning. koyyes: @ op, you are absolutely right about your observation. I think every thing has do to with the inherited ancient african attitude which grew into a culture.Firstly, there is no evidence that what can be observed today is a product of the pre-colonial era. This is a eurocentric, colonial-educated assumption stemming from the perceived idea that the colonialists can do no wrong as well as the idea that African cultures are not dynamic and didn't change customs and practices through the colonial era. An educated poster diagnoses this percewption people like you hold: RandomAfricanAm: @kingston277In fact this fits you perfectly. All kinds of negative practises can emerge especially without the over-sight of the Kings and sage philosophers(http://plato.stanford.edu/entries/african-sage/) whos job was to maintain cultural standards to prevent culture/religious corruption (like ritual killings which sprang up in the colonial era) so as not to stoop to barbaric levels which they abhorred. Pg. 93+ http://books.google.ca/books?id=XsHB69txxdEC&pg=PA144&lpg=PA144&dq=The+Man-Eating+Myth+africa&source=bl&ots=DGbLRRuIYX&sig=mkJbaw2nqGh6eQz3A9D6rENRibk&hl=en&sa=X&ei=d_jGU9qHKoGTyAToxYLoDg&ved=0CDMQ6AEwAw#v=onepage&q&f=false Most cultures had sages to preserve reason behind all practices. A good people to ask about indigenous religion are pagan9ja, macof and FOLYKAZE, I learned alot about the true reason behind religious practices like human sacrifice which was actually capital punishment for the kingdoms most devious criminals. An online book I read confirmed this. African's do not believe in equality- and when I say equality, I'm not primarily talking about gender equality. I'm referring to that between every free born individual.Would you care to elaborate on this because this article says otherwise http://www.kentlaw.edu/faculty/bbrown/classes/HumanRightsSP10/CourseDocs/9BanjulCharterandtheAfricanCulturalFingerprint.pdf A typical African believes in slavery and sole power/authority. He/ she does not believe that a good leader is actually a 'servant' of the people.Care to back up your claims? There are numerous domumentations of citizens in the pre-colonial times possessing the power to uproot the monarchy if it degenerated in tyranny. I recall there was an example in what is now rwanda. African democracies: Although the political system of Buganda was based on kingship, it was apparently a representative monarchy in which parliament and the prime minister not only ensured representation according to the concept of modern democracy but also limited the powers of the king to avoid tyranny. Commentators on African indigenous systems usually ignore these in-built democratic values of representation and checks and balances that forestalled tyranny as well as ensured the participation of the people in government. While the Buganda system might easily be dismissed as undemocratic by Western political theorists, they would have no qualms in applauding the British monarchical structure as an ideal form of democracy. The reasons for this premeditated contradiction and hypocrisy can be placed squarely on the concept of the civilizing mission, the white man’s burden, and the argumentation put forward in the subsequent session.more here: http://upress.kent.edu/Nieman/Concepts_of_Democracy.htm Seems you are wrong again, Koyyes. That's why our so called leaders don't give a damn about the educational system and speedy economic development. They rather encourage poverty, unemployment, prostitution and brain drain( individuals with potentials finding opportunities abroad than at home which I see as modern day slavery) to prevent people from becoming empowered so they can remain in servitude to them. This attitude isn't just found among political leaders, it is every where, everyone wants to dominate- men, women ,even children(if you've ever attended a boarding school). We really need to change!!!Because todays Africans do not care for improvements but, instead, like to imitate Europe. 2 Likes |
Re: Do African People Even Care About Tradition, Culture, Language And Heritage Stil by Nobody: 11:54pm On Jul 16, 2014 |
kingston277:LIES! LIES! LIES! You shouldn't have wasted your time on this empty epistle. You were almost right about your last statement but as usual, you had to ruin it by saying that most africans' imitate Europe' because if we really do that, we would be far ahead today. Besides, you perfectly fit the description given by Randomafricanam. You just don't know it yet! Infact, I don't even think you deserve to be heard on this thread after posting this shit below on NL- ''........Sorry, but fabricating history and throwing blame for today's issues caused by both colonialism and you and your lazy, like-minded countrymen on your(and my) hardworking forefathers who fought tooth and nail to preserve the kingdoms they governed and commenced high-productivity projects to generate wealth for the economy is not love, that is called being irresponsible. the fact that Nigerians can't take responsibility for their mistakes and would rather blame it on someones Grandpa in the 19th century says alot about your level of development. Our forefathers worked wonders, establishing human rights, organizing agricultural and metallurgy projects, openness to adopting any kind of knowledge that would in-turn help them advance further than they already spent the millennia doing. Please learn to stop turning up your nose to foreword thinking people, then maybe you will see improvements.'' I GUESS TO YOU, NIGERIANS ARE LAZY! 1 Like |
Re: Do African People Even Care About Tradition, Culture, Language And Heritage Stil by TerryCarr(m): 11:56pm On Jul 16, 2014 |
kingston277:the Chinese gov is killing there culture https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VITZ-Oyy9Os but it still lives on https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZK4raZ2XU7M&list=UU-75WOSwKtvzlY3USMYYFBg 1 Like |
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