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Re: Isreal Orders Ground Offensive Into Gaza by SalC: 10:06am On Jul 18, 2014 |
lekzzydo: Average Nlnders Christian are arguing and condemning base on religion sentiment but not on fact. If not how will you be supporting a devil that named your God bastard.And you think you too are not sentimental? So that they call our God bastard is enough reason for us to support their opponents right? Now I see why you easily convince your fellow muslim to kill at the slighted provocation. Why not ask for ceasefire on both parties than coming here to blame any Christian who supports israel. Are you not also speaking from a religious view point and not fact when you bring the in the idea of Israel calling the Christian God bastard? Sorry dear Christians have outgrown such petty sentiment and I pray your muslim brothers outgrow that too. Anyway am not sure you are a muslim, to avoid hasty conclusion though you sound like one 4 Likes |
Re: Isreal Orders Ground Offensive Into Gaza by Rexyl(m): 10:09am On Jul 18, 2014 |
Lenzz: Wild fires everywhere, a plane shot down in Ukraine, a land assault ongoing in Gaza, White house on lock down. Perhaps it's not the best time to be on Nairaland. probably Nairaland should be closed for some times so that Nairalanders can mobilize and match to Sambisa forest to deliver the abducted and suffering school girls from those beasts taking forests for a cover, and possibly to divert the energy being spent on phones and computers daily to design what will put an end to terrorism in Nigeria. Terrorists all over the world May God save Nigeria. |
Re: Isreal Orders Ground Offensive Into Gaza by Empiree: 10:11am On Jul 18, 2014 |
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Re: Isreal Orders Ground Offensive Into Gaza by popson1(m): 10:12am On Jul 18, 2014 |
dasoul: I need an objective answer to this question....Why are the the pro Russian fighters in Ukraine called separatist and not terrorist by the news media? or is it because there are not This is so thoughtful of you! What could be the reason for the mild appellation?? |
Re: Isreal Orders Ground Offensive Into Gaza by ayindepremier: 10:17am On Jul 18, 2014 |
Movingcoil: but we even u know dat as far as islam is involved, we know violence is never far off, an normal muslim hates peace especially if itz interacting with someone from anoda religionI know, only u can read ur comments, u are talking like a toddler. anyway, thanks for coming. |
Re: Isreal Orders Ground Offensive Into Gaza by unanonso(m): 10:44am On Jul 18, 2014 |
Na wa for this eposho guy. |
Re: Isreal Orders Ground Offensive Into Gaza by Demainman1: 10:51am On Jul 18, 2014 |
dasoul: I need an objective answer to this question....Why are the the pro Russian fighters in Ukraine called separatist and not terrorist by the news media? or is it because there are not While you are at it. Can we also call Boko Haram Separatists and not Terrorists too? |
Re: Isreal Orders Ground Offensive Into Gaza by PAGAN9JA(m): 11:14am On Jul 18, 2014 |
buchilino: Yes I agree. However, the slaughter seems to be 1-sided. |
Re: Isreal Orders Ground Offensive Into Gaza by PAGAN9JA(m): 11:16am On Jul 18, 2014 |
TerryCarr: No actually I personally know some palestinian christians who are anti-israel. what i dont know is if this feeling is mutual to all palestinian arab christians. |
Re: Isreal Orders Ground Offensive Into Gaza by hotwax: 11:19am On Jul 18, 2014 |
If Hamaz is not a terrorist Organization. Then Boko-haram are doing the right thing. Boko-haram should be getting Federal Allocation. They have the right judging by Hamaz. 1 Like |
Re: Isreal Orders Ground Offensive Into Gaza by olapluto(m): 11:25am On Jul 18, 2014 |
On Palestinian Christians: (Source: http://www.christianpost.com/news/palestinian-christian-western-christians-dont-understand-gaza-israeli-conflict-123272/) "The Christians in the west, most of them, they don't know the realities here. They don't know who is occupying who, who is oppressing who, who is confiscating whose land, who is building walls to try and separate people from one another," Alex Awad, who also pastors East Jerusalem Church, told The Christian Post. "In the United States and much of Europe people — they just don't understand the realities on the ground," he added. According to Awad, the reality is that the root causes of the Gaza conflict date back further than the kidnapping and murder of three Israeli teenagers. Instead, he blames Israel for not following through with U.S. Secretary of State John Kerry's plan under which the country was required to free Palestinian prisoners, whom he suggested were unfairly imprisoned after protesting the West Bank settlements. Awad believes that its failure to follow through with this condition enraged an already angered (and economically deprived) Palestinian population. He also called the current fighting a "cover-up" for the settlements and a diversion to focus attention to Gaza, even as the real crisis took place in the West Bank. "The news media doesn't tell [a] comprehensive story where the average person will understand the causes and effects," said Awad. "This thing did not happen in a vacuum. What's happening today in Gaza — the Israelis attack on Hamas' rockets in Israel — it did not happen in a vacuum. The way that the Israelis dealt with the prisoners on one side, and also the collapse of the peace process on the other side, created that anger that brought us to the position." While Awad said that the current attacks have not yet left any Palestinian causalities — just before speaking with CP he confirmed that employees at his NGO in Gaza were safe — they remain in harm's way. "The Palestinian Christians in Gaza today, they suffer as much as the Palestinian Muslims in Gaza. They are under bombardment. They have only eight hours of electricity of every 24 hours. They have a hard time getting fresh water," he said. "The Palestinian Christians, they don't live in an isolated area where oh, this is a Christian town. No, they live among the Muslims in Gaza and therefore as much as the Muslims are suffering, the Christians are suffering, not only in the Gaza strip but also in the West Bank." Palestinian Christians have not turned violent, Awad emphasized. "The Christians in the West bank and the Gaza strip are not part of the fighting. We are not fighting on the side of Hamas. We are not fighting on the side of Israel. Most Christians are very, very neutral. We know in our hearts, we side with our Palestinian brothers and sisters, even the Muslims, because we know they are the ones under occupation, they are the ones who are under oppression, and we see that because it is very obvious for people who live here who is actually violating the other human rights," said Awad. "We are part and parcel of the rest of the Palestinian people. We believe in Jesus Christ. We are still Palestinian Arabs. We speak the Arabic language. We consider ourselves Palestinian," he added. Awad said that despite the shared sense of "being under the same yoke of oppression" that unites him with his fellow Palestinians, his "heart goes out to any Muslim, Christian, Jew, Israeli, whatever their title, who may be affected by this unnecessary war." Issa Tarazi, the executive director of the Near East Council of Churches, recently told the National Catholic Register that the airstrikes on Gaza "are affecting all Christians and Muslims; Christians suffer the same as all the other people of Gaza, the same threats and the same stress. Palestinian Christians, some of whom like Awad live in Israel, have been in the middle of the violence since it started earlier this month. According to the National Catholic Register, "In Israel, Christians who live in the areas hit by more than 350 Palestinian rockets in recent days have been forced to seek refuge in bomb shelters. In the Hamas-ruled Gaza Strip, which by Friday had sustained some 1,000 Israeli air strikes aimed at destroying Palestinian rockets and rocket launchers, the strip's small Christian community is trying to cope with the violence." Meanwhile, Gaza's tiny Christian population of roughly 1,000 Christians, who live alongside the region's two million Muslims, have been targeted in violence that has killed nearly 200 Palestinians since fighting broke out. There have been no Israeli fatalities reported. 1 Like |
Re: Isreal Orders Ground Offensive Into Gaza by datribune: 11:29am On Jul 18, 2014 |
Mudley313: Let's be clear about something here: One thing is clear frm ur post. Consciously or unconsciously u ar helping to spread d heavily biased propaganda of d powerful Israeli lobby. d truth of d matter is dat Israel, a state created by a resolution of d UN has become a monster & rogue state dat has been violating resolutions of d same UN 4 d past 47yrs. Israel is an apartheid, racist zionist nation which according to d respected Nobel laureate Bishop Desmond Tutu is worse than apartheid south Africa. It continues the occupation, dispossession, expulsion & denial of rights of the indigenous population of Palestine turning Gaza into a human prison. Satanyahu continues to go against world opinion & wise counsel frm even its closest ally d USA by working against d long-agreed 2 state solution by building settlements non-stop on Palestinian land. d extremist Satanyahu after killing so many innocent women & children keeps deceiving d gullible by declaring an insincere ceasefire knowing hamas will reject it because it was based on d status-quo without making any concessions, not even to open up d human prison by relaxation of d borders & crossings. Pls b!e clear, Israel is guilty of war crimes & should face d international criminal court on charges of war crimes. |
Re: Isreal Orders Ground Offensive Into Gaza by XKZ(m): 11:31am On Jul 18, 2014 |
hotwax: If Hamaz is not a terrorist Organization. Then Boko-haram are doing the right thing. Boko-haram should be getting Federal Allocation. They have the right judging by Hamaz. Demainman1: While I do not endorse Hamas' methods (or that of Israel for that matter), Hamas is fighting an invading force, this is totally different from what Boko Haram is doing. In fact Boko Haram's aims are more similar to that of the Ukrainian 'separatists' than that of Hamas (if we look beyond what religion each group professes). |
Re: Isreal Orders Ground Offensive Into Gaza by Originalsly: 11:40am On Jul 18, 2014 |
0rlando0woh:Do you guys just swallow what is put before you? Do you swear by CNN and the likes? What do you really know about Hamas? What do you really know about Gaza? When is one declared a terrorist?....a rebel?....a separatist? Is the US, UN consistent on that? Is Israel violating the UN charter bombing civilians? You guys need to pause and think for a moment. Israel is above the law and does whatever it likes with the US full support. How can a people tht went through the holocaust. ...do not hesitate to unleash terror and death to another people? I am sure you can explain....until you become the victim. 1 Like |
Re: Isreal Orders Ground Offensive Into Gaza by hotwax: 11:50am On Jul 18, 2014 |
I have no sympathy for anyone who reject cease fire. Hamza publicly rejected peace and decide to fire rokets. So you think jews will sit down and start posting pictures of dead children. jews wont even allow you kill their little children talkless of posting the pics online. |
Re: Isreal Orders Ground Offensive Into Gaza by Demainman1: 11:51am On Jul 18, 2014 |
XKZ: Invading force from where? We all know that that land belongs to the Jews and they have every ryt to live there. We all met this problem here or earth and the problem will still be here when we all go back to our maker. It will never end. the only way the problem will be resolved is for the palestinians to become 'born again' and embrace peace. As long as the are Muslims, Israel will never, i repeat, never trust them. Open up GAZA now, the next minute they will invite ISIS, before you know they are suicide bombing everyone and everything. See boko haram they slaughter people anyhow in nigeria for no just cause, just because they are ALLAH boys. provide them with rockets and see if they no go level Abuja sef. I fear wetin Islam to cause for this world in the near future. |
Re: Isreal Orders Ground Offensive Into Gaza by hotwax: 12:01pm On Jul 18, 2014 |
XKZ: Who are the invading force? OOOh you mean Jordianian cast away settlers calling themselves Palestinians? |
Re: Isreal Orders Ground Offensive Into Gaza by elfico(m): 12:10pm On Jul 18, 2014 |
A lot of negative and even ignorant comments on this thread. Here is an appeal to save the people of gaza and a brief "timeline" of the conflict. www.nairaland.com/1816297/pray-gaza-save-gaza |
Re: Isreal Orders Ground Offensive Into Gaza by anago1000: 12:12pm On Jul 18, 2014 |
hotwax: I have no sympathy for anyone who reject cease fire. Hamza publicly rejected peace and decide to fire rokets. So you think jews will sit down and start posting pictures of dead children. jews wont even allow you kill their little children talkless of posting the pics online. dumb as expected what are the modalities of the ceasefire. and in what sane clime do you communicate a resolution to a stakeholder through the media. |
Re: Isreal Orders Ground Offensive Into Gaza by XKZ(m): 12:13pm On Jul 18, 2014 |
Demainman1: hotwax: The land doesn't belong to Israel, international law says so. Israel is legally recognised as an occupying power. If you prefer to use the bible, then the Canaanites are the original owners of the land (and Palestinians may very well be their descendants). And thou shalt speak and say before the LORD thy God, A Syrian ready to perish was my father, and he went down into Egypt, and sojourned there with a few, and became there a nation, great, mighty, and populous: ~Deuteronomy 26:5 (KJV) Does that also give Israelis the right to claim Syria? Demainman1: Palestinians are not all Muslims. |
Re: Isreal Orders Ground Offensive Into Gaza by hotwax: 12:16pm On Jul 18, 2014 |
anago1000: So you gave conditions to cease fire? You are saying "we dont care if you kill little children, we dont need your cease fire" No look. You are the dumb here. Cant you people applaud peace for once? |
Re: Isreal Orders Ground Offensive Into Gaza by hotwax: 12:17pm On Jul 18, 2014 |
XKZ: Hamaz is an Islamic terrorist Organization. Gbam |
Re: Isreal Orders Ground Offensive Into Gaza by anago1000: 12:20pm On Jul 18, 2014 |
hotwax: rubbish, so is it today that started killing woman and children on the Gaza strip if they can't make a meaningful consensus from this latest madness from isreahell then what the benefit of their age long sacrifice. I wonder where y'all daredevils lost your human feel. maybe a Google of world largest open concentration camp can help cure some of your blind heartlessness. |
Re: Isreal Orders Ground Offensive Into Gaza by Demainman1: 12:23pm On Jul 18, 2014 |
XKZ: Who or What is International law? When did international law start creating countries? did International law create Nigeria too? So if the land belong to hamas, where is the Jews land? In your house? If the land belong to palestinians why are the areas known by jewish names? (At least according to the bible). If Palestinians/Hamas are not majority muslims what are they? Jews? Let me tell you something, if Plastinians/Hamas are anything other than muslims, there will not be any fighting right now. HAMAS has stated that their ultimate aim is to anihilate Israel. Do you then expect Israel to make friends with them? Have you heard of the phrase Using long spoon to dine with your enemy? That is what Israel is doing sir, Using long spoon to dine with their number 1 enemy |
Re: Isreal Orders Ground Offensive Into Gaza by MicroBox: 12:42pm On Jul 18, 2014 |
donsteady: Just came acrossed this, just wondering how Ukraine living with Russia:-Muslims and your Head= Mumu South Sudan living with South Sudan:- Muslims and your Mouth=Mumu Ireland living with KKK:- Muslims and your ignorance =Fool Eeeeeetttcccccc= Big Fool 1 Like |
Re: Isreal Orders Ground Offensive Into Gaza by XKZ(m): 12:45pm On Jul 18, 2014 |
Demainman1: It is international law that made Nigeria give Bakassi to Cameroun. Demainman1: Mandatory Palestine was divided into 2 nations - Israel and what is currently know as 'Palestinian Territories'. Israel is occupying the 'Palestinian Territories in addition to the portion which belongs to them. Demainman1: A good number of Palestinians are Christians. I get the impression that your whole conception of this conflict is that it is a 'biblical' conflict between Israelites and Philistines. |
Re: Isreal Orders Ground Offensive Into Gaza by lekzzydo(m): 12:50pm On Jul 18, 2014 |
Demainman1:I just said that some people are arguing and condemning base on religious sentiment not base on they fact they know and u just spewed that. How will u say "only if palestinians can be born again". Is because u dnt knw dt there are christian palestinians. U don't just face all issues with sentiment and knowledge about anoda event rather with facts. |
Re: Isreal Orders Ground Offensive Into Gaza by hotwax: 12:51pm On Jul 18, 2014 |
anago1000: No..You fired rocket at Israel, you missed, Israel fires back, killed Women and Children. Whose fault is that ? So your rocket are aimed at aliens? Answer my question jare Stop shedding crocodile tears and face reality. |
Re: Isreal Orders Ground Offensive Into Gaza by Demainman1: 12:55pm On Jul 18, 2014 |
XKZ: A good number of Palestine are Christians does not mean people of Gaza are christians. What is happening to Christians in Iraq, Syria right now? what? Muslims always try to rope Christians in to achieve their selfish aims and then they will show their true intolerant nature. Their book (Koran) said it "all non-muslims are infidels and only death is good for them" So you can see why no right thinking non-muslims will want to dine with them hence they will video themselves beheading you and posting the act on youtube!! phew. Like I said, there can never be peace in that region except all Gazans become born again and convert to either chistianity or Judaism. I say these things not as a Christian but as a realist. Na here we meet the problem. na here we go leave am go back to our maker. Sometimes I wonder why God will put his 'own' people in the midst of their enemy as big as the whole earth is? |
Re: Isreal Orders Ground Offensive Into Gaza by anago1000: 12:55pm On Jul 18, 2014 |
hotwax: rubbish as usual..... no one is shedding any fvcking tears here. some of us don't give a fvck about both parties. cos they are all racist and treat we blacks like crap. we just concerned about humanity but most of your mofos have lost your humanity because of fake religion membership. |
Re: Isreal Orders Ground Offensive Into Gaza by hotwax: 1:01pm On Jul 18, 2014 |
anago1000: Now I got it. Thats my point too. Let not take side. People tend to see Palestinians as the endagered species, but they are not, both sides are not. I get your logic. It makes sense. You made my day. |
Re: Isreal Orders Ground Offensive Into Gaza by donsteady(m): 1:03pm On Jul 18, 2014 |
you just demonstrate how peaceful your religion is. i ask a simple question, the best respond from a muslim is attack. may allah accept your ramadan. MicroBox: |
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