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Re: FLIGHT MH 17: Another Pointer To The Non-existence Of God . by Weah96: 4:13pm On Jul 23, 2014 |
RikoduoSennin: ^^your opinion. That doesn't change the fact. Google is there. Do the research! I have, thank you very much. It is incumbent upon you to post your own link. |
Re: FLIGHT MH 17: Another Pointer To The Non-existence Of God . by GooseBaba: 4:35pm On Jul 23, 2014 |
RikoduoSennin: . Smh..... The highlighted part seals the deal. The foundation of your arguments thrives on fables and personal convictions. That in itself takes away reasonable replies.... Your evidence is Jewish folklore.. for crying out loud..! Sorry dude, nothing dey happen here. 3 Likes |
Re: FLIGHT MH 17: Another Pointer To The Non-existence Of God . by Kay17: 5:17pm On Jul 23, 2014 |
But the Christians should try to understand the atheists here. Apart from the afterlife promises which aren't really guaranteed, what are the benefits of being a Christian on earth? Essentially God is a father figure that affords Christians a protection from the pains and sufferings of life. He ought to give joy to the Christian world. But this airline disaster along with other disasters in the world isn't the best sign of protection. Christians were killed in the crash, leaving grieving Christian families. So Christians have to draw the line between the Christians and the unbelievers, because one must ask; is there any difference?! 1 Like |
Re: FLIGHT MH 17: Another Pointer To The Non-existence Of God . by RikoduoSennin(m): 10:54am On Jul 24, 2014 |
GooseBaba: And you forgot the part about "BASED ON EVIDENCE", because you only choose to hear what is in agreement with your understand/hear. Tell me why does Human Cells stop replicating and repair as we age? |
Re: FLIGHT MH 17: Another Pointer To The Non-existence Of God . by JesusisLord85: 11:07am On Jul 24, 2014 |
Oduduwaboy: Ignorance will kill you. I saw a batch of 30 brand new passports, intact, supposedly pulled out of the burning wreckage. By deception the western powers will incite war. Secondly, even if it were a russian accident...ehen, so what? Do not fear the destruction of the body. Fear the Most High who can destroy your soul. Understand THAT. Did he not watch as Christ was crucified, so that Israel (our people, not the fakes in Jerusalem) ay be brought back into covenant with him. So keep quiet, while he causes the gentiles to destroy themselves, so that WE can once again rise and take our place as the royal priesthood. Understand that brother. Shalom |
Re: FLIGHT MH 17: Another Pointer To The Non-existence Of God . by GooseBaba: 4:46pm On Jul 24, 2014 |
RikoduoSennin: Kindly reread what you wrote. A human being that allegedly lived up to 969 years in a folklore . That is your evidence.. And you expect me to correlate human cells with delusionary tales... 1 Like |
Re: FLIGHT MH 17: Another Pointer To The Non-existence Of God . by RikoduoSennin(m): 5:28pm On Jul 24, 2014 |
GooseBaba:. You call it folklore, that is why I am asking a Scientific Question needing a Scientific answer from you. Not this running around. Who is asking you to correlate the two? Put the attitude aside, Reason with me- WHAT CAUSES AGEING IN HUMAN? WHY DO HUMAN SUDDENLY STOP REPAIRING AND REPLICATING ITSELF? Let's reason like intelligent beings, not just arguing who is right or who is wrong, we are all learning. |
Re: FLIGHT MH 17: Another Pointer To The Non-existence Of God . by Oduduwaboy(m): 5:45pm On Jul 24, 2014 |
JesusisLord85:seeing you are still very much caught up in your world of fantasies, i have no word for folks like you who have subjugated reason to fables. |
Re: FLIGHT MH 17: Another Pointer To The Non-existence Of God . by Oduduwaboy(m): 5:54pm On Jul 24, 2014 |
RikoduoSennin: .This guy, this guy....i dont like asking peoples age on this forum or their educational level or discipline; but you may push me to ask you those now! Dont you know anything about genetic programming of cellular function which also reflects in their rate of cell divisions and apoptosis( programmed cell death)? I believe our educational system in Nigeria may need revamping. |
Re: FLIGHT MH 17: Another Pointer To The Non-existence Of God . by Oduduwaboy(m): 6:00pm On Jul 24, 2014 |
GooseBaba:*...yes he lived for 969 yrs* buah ah.....ah .....all from the book of fabulous jewish stories! |
Re: FLIGHT MH 17: Another Pointer To The Non-existence Of God . by Oduduwaboy(m): 6:34pm On Jul 24, 2014 |
macof:thank you. you really got my argument! |
Re: FLIGHT MH 17: Another Pointer To The Non-existence Of God . by GooseBaba: 8:53pm On Jul 24, 2014 |
RikoduoSennin: . Guy I have told you, there is nothing to reason here. When last did you see an 800 yr old living human being? If you're not looking to correlate your FACT (Jewish fables)with scientific knowledge on ageing, cell repairing and replicating. Then explain the need for your question. What's there to learn, when one considers fables as factual evidence.. If we must reason like intelligent human beings then we should know how to separate fables from fact... It's that simple.. |
Re: FLIGHT MH 17: Another Pointer To The Non-existence Of God . by teeghurl(f): 10:43pm On Jul 24, 2014 |
FOLYKAZE:what exactly is ur point brov? u're neither supporting his write-up nor belief thr's a true God wt ur own write-up 2 Likes |
Re: FLIGHT MH 17: Another Pointer To The Non-existence Of God . by Weah96: 4:47am On Jul 25, 2014 |
GooseBaba: LOL. I already told them that the bible cannot be rationalized. The bible admits that it contains foolishness. From the perspective of a human being, that is. Coincidentally, humans are the only animals that read it. Btw, an 800 yr old person would beg the government to euthanize him/her. 2 Likes |
Re: FLIGHT MH 17: Another Pointer To The Non-existence Of God . by FOLYKAZE(m): 7:07am On Jul 25, 2014 |
teeghurl: what exactly is ur point brov? u're neither supporting his write-up nor belief thr's a true God wt ur own write-up Hey dear True I dont believe in God. My disbelieve span across every Gods in existence. Moreso, I am careful about 'God', because I know it could be mere label to nature, a cause or something. One thing is, I am against the way the write up often pop up when tragedy surface. He OP does not care about life lost, what he want is point against God. He doesnt lament while science provides for us deadly weapons or Jets that get obsolete with time that have caused the death of hundreds. He didnt shout science is evil when boko haram make bombs. He is biased toward christian God but you cant find him blaming science when Israel hit hamas with deadly strikes. For someone that have human feelings, did he really so care for the life lost. Did he extend sympathy for those that lost love ones? He just need to read a tragedy news and then create thread accusing God. There was another guy that created a thread shouting God this, God that when malaysian plane went missing. No one blame science, nature or try to find cause for the disappearance. The whole world come together contributing there effort, people from distance send some love. . .but all we got here is blaming God. Could this be the reason why some theist call them fools? Ya we are God, have they blame themselves being God? That is where I diagree with him 2 Likes |
Re: FLIGHT MH 17: Another Pointer To The Non-existence Of God . by Oduduwaboy(m): 12:39pm On Jul 25, 2014 |
FOLYKAZE:Maybe i need to read you more . I thought you believe in god/gods(whatever!). I thought you are just against the ' imported' gods. Also, let me tell you this. If you have ever read me well at all , you should know that it is my deep feeling of affection for fellow men that first brought my doubts about God. If i happen to talk more about the Christian god that may be because of the fact that i was a christian ( No other God beside jehovah.lol.) How can i question science which is not a person but an objective process? I have cancelled god in my heart and whatever failings i see around me are only the random occurences of Nature or human actions which i hope to be a part of such that the good of as many people as possible within the society are served. I believe in continual discussions among people in making individuals see things from each others perspective. I dont easily call a person a fool; i may not see things like he sees them for a time. I talk more about tragedies because i feel so strongly for the victims and if truly there is a GOD like the religions preach he/she should feel more for them than this mere me and thus be able to prevent these unspeakable tragedies! 2 Likes |
Re: FLIGHT MH 17: Another Pointer To The Non-existence Of God . by FOLYKAZE(m): 2:16pm On Jul 25, 2014 |
Oduduwaboy: I am a spiritual atheist. I tend to know about what God is. Ghostofsparta is an atheist. He define is as Aborisha'theist (I have defined Orisha or Aborisha on many threads). He tends to believe in God. Oduduwaboy: Also, let me tell you this. If you have ever read me well at all , you should know that it is my deep feeling of affection for fellow men that first brought my doubts about God. If i happen to talk more about the Christian god that may be because of the fact that i was a christian ( No other God beside jehovah.lol.) Like Muskeeto would say in his days. . . .disbelieve in God should span beyond christian God. I understand you though but there are more to the word than christian conception. Also, beejay tried to explain some mystic essence in christian bible. It make a lot of senses which I cant disagree with. I have found lot too myself that make sense. I dont disbelieve because the perspect aint clear. Oduduwaboy: How can i question science which is not a person but an objective process? The same way you can question God which is a label. Oduduwaboy: I have cancelled god in my heart and whatever failings i see around me are only the random occurences of Nature or human actions which i hope to be a part of such that the good of as many people as possible within the society are served. Nature, the people around and yourself are Gods. Beat that . . . God is still in your earth. You acclaim you have Nature, people and yourself in your heart. These listed entities you have in mind are Gods. Oduduwaboy: I believe in continual discussions among people in making individuals see things from each others perspective. I dont easily call a person a fool; i may not see things like he sees them for a time. Sorry for that word. I didnt mean to say it. Was just quoting theist. Oduduwaboy: I talk more about tragedies because i feel so strongly for the victims and if truly there is a GOD like the religions preach he/she should feel more for them than this mere me and thus be able to prevent these unspeakable tragedies! Samething goes for nature which you have in heart. It is a lovely nature when you can be nourished. Everyone cherish the beautiful greens, water bodies and spots. We all feel good inhaling natural air, going to beach, take a look at beautiful spots. Little children, adults and old felas yern for holidays because they want to fill the touching heart of nature. And ya we see adverts and annoucement nationwide from those in tourist business calling to enjoy their holiday in a lovely nature world. They do claim nature is beautiful. That same nature has caused death in billions, diseases in suprising levels, disasters and many other evils. Do you question Nature who is said to be lovely but turns out to be bloodsucking beast? |
Re: FLIGHT MH 17: Another Pointer To The Non-existence Of God . by uzoexcel(m): 1:43pm On Jul 28, 2014 |
Re: FLIGHT MH 17: Another Pointer To The Non-existence Of God . by Nobody: 3:50am On Jul 29, 2014 |
Scyllapatron: one thing about god (if he even exist) is that he doesn't give a fvck, sometimes I think there is no devil, it's just god when he is drunk. @OP: A plane crash does nothing to support the non-existence of God. |
Re: FLIGHT MH 17: Another Pointer To The Non-existence Of God . by macof(m): 8:52am On Aug 01, 2014 |
FOLYKAZE:brother I am right where Eledumare put me been so busy that nairaland is the least thing I want to spend time on |
Re: FLIGHT MH 17: Another Pointer To The Non-existence Of God . by macof(m): 9:03am On Aug 01, 2014 |
RikoduoSennin:Same reasons why all living organism die.. Same reason why stars die So shut ur mouth nd stop asking irrelevant questions |
Re: FLIGHT MH 17: Another Pointer To The Non-existence Of God . by macof(m): 9:07am On Aug 01, 2014 |
JesusisLord85: Obadiah And his little puppets...Mad people |
Re: FLIGHT MH 17: Another Pointer To The Non-existence Of God . by Nobody: 10:44am On Aug 01, 2014 |
You can not blame God for giving us free will. We are not brutes, we know the right from wrong. What you do with your knowledge of the good and the evil is up to you. God didn't start the crisis going on in Ukraine, so he should not be held responsible for it's outcomes. The Pilot had a choice of taking another route, but instead chose to fly through a no-fly zone. Is it God? Eversince God endowed humans with free-will, our actions or otherwise, determines much of what goes on in this world, not God. However, everyone is responsible for his/her actions and will definitely give account. |
Re: FLIGHT MH 17: Another Pointer To The Non-existence Of God . by Noelle01: 2:57am On Sep 08, 2014 |
If someone could look at the evils in the world and think it rational to say ther's no God; because of these evils. Then don't you think it's quite rational to look at the good in the world, the intricacy of all of creation, the diversity in all species of living things and then conclude that there really is a God? Ogbeni, my advice to you is ask God if there's a God. It might seem silly since you don't believe in His existence, but it's nt hard. Do it quite sincerely tho. Cos He is not mocked, neither is He a man who could be pulled out by taunts. You wouldn't want a siituation whereby a God exists and you deny Him. Besides, what dyu have to lose? |
Re: FLIGHT MH 17: Another Pointer To The Non-existence Of God . by macof(m): 1:06pm On Sep 08, 2014 |
enigmaotr: You can not blame God for giving us free will. We are not brutes, we know the right from wrong. What you do with your knowledge of the good and the evil is up to you. God didn't start the crisis going on in Ukraine, so he should not be held responsible for it's outcomes. The Pilot had a choice of taking another route, but instead chose to fly through a no-fly zone. Is it God? Eversince God endowed humans with free-will, our actions or otherwise, determines much of what goes on in this world, not God. However, everyone is responsible for his/her actions and will definitely give account. Oh really? So God just creates and runs away from his responsibility? Such a God |
Re: FLIGHT MH 17: Another Pointer To The Non-existence Of God . by Nobody: 2:26pm On Sep 08, 2014 |
my question to atheist So many things happening around us shows there is a being/supernatural.. Why living in denial... |
Re: FLIGHT MH 17: Another Pointer To The Non-existence Of God . by Nobody: 2:41pm On Sep 08, 2014 |
And what is God's responsibility macof: |
Re: FLIGHT MH 17: Another Pointer To The Non-existence Of God . by Nobody: 8:50pm On Sep 08, 2014 |
macof:I don't have time for zombies please just ignore my posts henceforth! |
Re: FLIGHT MH 17: Another Pointer To The Non-existence Of God . by Oduduwaboy(m): 1:23am On Sep 09, 2014 |
macof: ...a 'wonderful' god who allows the Islamic State to cut the neck of little children and refuses to intervene on behalf of its preachers when Boko Haram roasts roasts them alive! |
Re: FLIGHT MH 17: Another Pointer To The Non-existence Of God . by Oduduwaboy(m): 1:31am On Sep 09, 2014 |
enigmaotr:Alrighty...we can understand you dont have time for any deep discourse once it doesnt recognise your ' only-true-god-among-a-million-gods' as the unquestionable one. okay we hear. Maybe you should also stop coming on threads that tend to shake your 'faith'...for in such threads everything is subjected to reason,logic & empiricical evidence! |
Re: FLIGHT MH 17: Another Pointer To The Non-existence Of God . by Nobody: 9:21am On Sep 09, 2014 |
Oduduwaboy:I only wish I truly have the time. You claim there's no God and you can't give a reasonable point why we have such an organised universe with complex beings like humans living in it! Saying everything just happen by chance, is not only unreasonable, but also illogical. Please deal with that! Science itself is grounded in spirituality. Nothing can shake my faith! If at all, not a belief in God! I've known too much about spirituality than start believing there's no God! THAT WILL NEVER BE POSSIBLE!!! Let those who can waste their time with people like you, do so. As for me, count me out. I'd rather keep on reading your foolishness as your try and try to prove to no avail why there can't be any God! I had no problem knowing if there's any God or not, the only problem I had is if I was serving the true God. Now, are you a Yoruba boy as your name implies? Please an answer! |
Re: FLIGHT MH 17: Another Pointer To The Non-existence Of God . by macof(m): 6:00pm On Sep 09, 2014 |
mrceo63: my question to atheist What do you know about Ifa?? And any other ancient spirituality?? If you understand what spirituality is all about you would know that your skydaddy is merely a fable |
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