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Good Manners In Islam: Illuminating The Non-muslims by Rilwayne001: 4:41pm On Jul 09, 2014
1- GOOD MANNERS AND GOOD CHARACTERS:

Islam is a beautiful religion, full of wisdom and harmony. If this wonderful religion is followed properly then a typical Muslim would only be a great example to follow.

Narrated 'Abdullah bin 'Amr: "The Prophet never used bad language neither a 'Fahish nor a Mutafahish. He used to say 'The best amongst you are those who have the best manners and character.' (Translation of Sahih Bukhari, Virtues and Merits of the Prophet (peace be upon him) and his Companions, Volume 4, Book 56, Number 759) "

Narrated 'Abdullah bin 'Amr: "The Prophet never used bad language neither a "Fahish nor a Mutafahish. He used to say "The best amongst you are those who have the best manners and character." (Translation of Sahih Bukhari, Virtues and Merits of the Prophet (pbuh) and his Companions, Volume 4, Book 56, Number 759) "

Narrated Masruq: "Abdullah bin 'Amr mentioned Allah's Apostle saying that he was neither a Fahish nor a Mutafahish.Abdullah bin 'Amr added, Allah's Apostle said, 'The best among you are those who have the best manners and character.' (Translation of Sahih Bukhari, Good Manners and Form (Al-Adab), Volume 8, Book 73, Number 56) "

2- REPEL EVIL WITH GOOD:
Allah Almighty in the Noble Quran commands us to return the evil that is done to us by others to not only with good, but with best!

Let us look at Noble Verse 13:22 "Those who patiently persevere, seeking the countenance of their Lord; establish regular prayers; spend out of (the gifts) We have bestowed for their sustenance, secretly and openly; and turn off evil with good : for such there is the final attainment of the (Eternal) Home."

Let us look at Noble Verse 23:96 " Repel evil with that which is best: We are Well-acquainted with the things they say."

Let us look at Noble Verse 41:34 "Nor can goodness and evil be equal. Repel (evil) with that is better: Then will he between whom and thee was hatred become as it were thy friend and intimate!."

Let us look at Noble Verse 28:54 "Twice will they be given their reward, for that they have persevered, that they avert evil with good , and that they spend (in charity) out of what We have given them."

Let us look at Noble Verse 42:40 "The recompense for an injury is an injury equal thereto (in degree): but if a person forgives and makes reconciliation, his reward is due from Allah: for (Allah) Loveth not those who do wrong."

Whether people speak evil of you, in your presence or behind your back, or they do evil to you in either of those ways, all is known to Allah Almighty. It is not for you to punish. Your best course is not to do evil in your turn, but to do what will best repel the evil. Two evils do not make a good.

You do not return good for evil, for there is no equality or comparison between the two. You repel or destroy evil with something which is far better, just as an antidote is better than poison. You foil hatred with love. You repel ignorance with knowledge, folly and wickedness with the friendly message of Revelation. The man who was in bondage of sin,you not only liberate from sin, but make him your greatest friend and helper in the cause of Allah Almighty!. Such is the alchemy of the Word of Allah Almighty!. Your credit for returning evil with good and paying for charity is double. Also if you forgive and return the evil with good,.then Allah Almighty will love you and reward you.

3- FURTHER GOOD MANNER TEACHINGS IN THE NOBLE QURAN:

"It is part of the Mercy of Allah that thou dost deal gently with them. Wert thou severe or harsh-hearted, they would have broken away from about thee: so pass over (their faults), and ask for (Allah's) forgiveness for them; and consult them in affairs (of moment). Then, when thou hast taken a decision, put thy trust in Allah. For Allah loves those who put their trust (in Him). (The Noble Quran, 3:159) "

"Those who spend (freely), whether in prosperity, or
in adversity; who restrain anger, and pardon (all)
men; for Allah loves those who do good. (The Noble
Quran, 3:134) "

"Hold to forgiveness; command what is right; but turn away from the ignorant. (The Noble Quran, 7:199) "

"Allah loveth not that evil should be noised a broad in public speech, except where injustice hath been done; for Allah is He Who heareth and knoweth all things. (The Noble Quran, 4:148) "

"Say to My servants that they should (only) say those things that are best: for Satan doth sow dissensions among them: for Satan is to man an avowed enemy. (The Noble Quran, 17:53) "

"Who avoid vain talk; (The Noble Quran, 23:3) "

"And when they hear vain talk, they turn away therefrom and say: 'To us our deeds, and to you yours; peace be to you: we seek not the ignorant.' (The Noble Quran, 28:55) "

4- NO VAIN TALKING OR FOUL LANGUAGE:

Muslims are commanded to stay away from vain talkers:

" When thou seest men engaged in vain discourse about Our signs, turn away from them unless they turn to a different theme. If Satan ever makes thee forget, then after recollection, sit not thou in the company of those who do wrong. (The Noble Quran, 6:68) "

"Who avoid vain talk; (The Noble Quran, 23:3) "

" And when they hear vain talk, they turn away therefrom and say: 'To us our deeds, and to you yours; peace be to you: we seek not the ignorant.' (The Noble Quran, 28:55) "

" So leave them to plunge in vain talk and play about, until they encounter that Day of theirs which they have been promised!- (The Noble Quran, 70:42) "

"(The sinners will saysmiley 'But we used to talk vanities with vain talkers;' (The Noble Quran, 74:45) "

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Re: Good Manners In Islam: Illuminating The Non-muslims by Rilwayne001: 4:42pm On Jul 09, 2014
5- Allah Almighty orders Muslims to deal kindly and justly with non-Muslims:

"Allah forbids you not, With regard to those who Fight you not for (your) Faith Nor drive you out Of your homes, From dealing kindly and justly With them: For Allah loveth Those who are just. (The Noble Quran, 60:cool "

Narrated Jarir bin 'Abdullah: "Allah's Apostle said, 'Allah will not be merciful to those who are not merciful to mankind.' (Translation of Sahih Bukhari, ONENESS, UNIQUENESS OF ALLAH (TAWHEED), Volume 9, Book 93, Number 473) "

The Muslim needs to always be polite, humble, patient, loving and well mannered when he/she deals with others, whether they were Muslims or non-Muslims. Allah Almighty certainly doesn't love those who are offensive and rude to others.

6- Greetings in Islam:
Allah Almighty in the Noble Quran commands us to return a greeting with a better one or at least an equal one. We must maintain the high standards in manners and always be the best examples.

Let us look at Noble Verse 4:86 "When a (courteous) greeting is offered you, meet it with a greeting still more courteous, or (at least) of equal courtesy. Allah takes careful account of all things."

7- Respecting others' properties:
Allah Almighty commands us to respect people's properties and not to be transgressors.

Let us look at Noble Verses 24:27-28 "27. O ye believe! Enter not houses other than your own, until ye have asked permission and saluted those in them: that is best for you, in order that ye may heed (what is seemly).

28. If ye find no one in the house, enter not until permission is given to you: if ye are asked to go back, go back: That makes for greater purity for yourselves: and Allah Knows well all that ye do."

8- Do not be a stuck-up!
Allah Almighty commands us not to be stuck-up. He commands us to be laid back and down to earth type of people.

Let us look at Noble Verse 17:37 "Nor walk on the earth with insolence: for thou can not rend the earth asunder, nor reach the mountains in height." "And swell not thy cheek (for pride) at men, nor walk in insolence through the earth; for God loveth not any arrogant boaster . (The Noble Quran, 31:18) "

Insolence, or arrogance, or undue elation at our powers or capacities, is the first step to many evils. Besides, it is unjustified. All our gifts are from Allah Almighty.

9- Is arguing in public allowed in Islam?
Let us look at what Allah Almighty Said in the Noble Quran: " God loveth not that evil should be noised abroad in public speech, except where injustice hath been done; for God is He who heareth and knoweth all things. (The Noble Quran, 4:148) "

So unless there is a good and just reason for having a public shouting, we as Muslims are Commanded by Allah Almighty to maintain our manners and good behavior in public.

10- How to be a "Strong Muslim" in Islam:
"Abu Huraira reported Allah's Messenger (may peace be upon him) as saying: The strong-man is not one who wrestles well but the strong man is one who controls himself when he is in a fit of rage. (The book of Muslim, Book 32, Number 6313) "

"Abu Huraira reported: I heard Allah's Messenger (may peace be upon him) as saying: One is not strong because of one's wrestling skillfully. They said: Allah's Messenger, then who is strong? He said: He who controls his anger when he is in a fit of rage. (The book of Muslim, Book 32, Number 6314) "

"Anas b. Malik reported Allah's Messenger (may peace be upon him) as saying: Neither nurse mutual hatred, nor jealousy, nor enmity, and become as fellow brothers and servants of Allah. It is not lawful for a Muslim that he should keep his relations estranged with his brother beyond three days. (The book of Muslim, Book 32, Number 6205) "

"Abu Huraira reported Allah's Messenger (may peace be upon him) as saying: Don't nurse grudge and don't bid him out for raising the price and don't nurse aversion or enmity and don't enter into a transaction when the others have entered into that transaction and be as fellow-brothers and servants of Allah. A Muslim is the brother of a Muslim. He neither oppresses him nor humiliates him nor looks down upon him.The piety is here, (and while saying so) he pointed towards his chest thrice. It is a serious evil for a Muslim that he should look down upon his brother Muslim. All things of a Muslim are inviolable for his brother in faith: his blood, his wealth and his honour. (The book of Muslim, Book 32, Number 6219) "

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Re: Good Manners In Islam: Illuminating The Non-muslims by Rilwayne001: 5:04pm On Jul 09, 2014
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Re: Good Manners In Islam: Illuminating The Non-muslims by kuss: 9:53pm On Jul 09, 2014
how does this stop terrorism across the globe

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Re: Good Manners In Islam: Illuminating The Non-muslims by TheBigUrban2: 10:06pm On Jul 09, 2014
Beating your wife is also a sign of good manners and chastity in islam

Surah 4:34
Re: Good Manners In Islam: Illuminating The Non-muslims by vedaxcool(m): 6:29am On Jul 13, 2014
Op may Allah reward u, amin.
Re: Good Manners In Islam: Illuminating The Non-muslims by Rilwayne001: 3:41pm On Jul 14, 2014
kuss: how does this stop terrorism across the globe
TheBigUrban2: Beating your wife is also a sign of good manners and chastity in islam
Surah 4:34

ne'er-do-well grin grin
Re: Good Manners In Islam: Illuminating The Non-muslims by Rilwayne001: 3:43pm On Jul 14, 2014
vedaxcool: Op may Allah reward u, amin.

Ameeenah ya rabb...thank you bro

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Re: Good Manners In Islam: Illuminating The Non-muslims by truthman2012(m): 7:13pm On Jul 14, 2014
Islam is religion of the hypocrites. The quran teaches one thing but the prophet does another. If Muhammad was not a good muslim, who is?

Islam is a religion of peace according to muslims, but muslims are killing-happy. Did you say for defence? Evidences abound of jihads fought where people who never saw Muhammad before were killed and their wives taken by him. His jihadists slept with their wives in their presence before they were killed for nothing.

What a good manner in islam. Saying something alone does not matter, doing it does. It takes hypocricy to be a muslim.

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Re: Good Manners In Islam: Illuminating The Non-muslims by larrymoore(m): 7:51pm On Jul 14, 2014
truthman2012: Islam is religion of the hypocrites. The quran teaches one thing but the prophet does another. If Muhammad was not a good muslim, who is?

Islam is a religion of peace according to muslims, but muslims are killing-happy. Did you say for defence? Evidences abound of jihads fought where people who never saw Muhammad before were killed and their wives taken by him. His jihadists slept with their wives in their presence before they were killed for nothing.

What a good manner in islam. Saying something alone does not matter, doing it does. It takes hypocricy to be a muslim.
hmmm what a dumb remark by a dumb fella.
Re: Good Manners In Islam: Illuminating The Non-muslims by truthman2012(m): 8:21pm On Jul 14, 2014
larrymoore: hmmm what a dumb remark by a dumb fella.

Debunk the remark if you can but I know you cannot. Evidences will prove you ignorant.

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Re: Good Manners In Islam: Illuminating The Non-muslims by PAGAN9JA(m): 8:38pm On Jul 14, 2014
Why does islam ask muslims to destroy the religious places of other religions?

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Re: Good Manners In Islam: Illuminating The Non-muslims by Rilwayne001: 8:41pm On Jul 14, 2014
truthman2012: Islam is religion of the hypocrites. The quran teaches one thing but the prophet does another. If Muhammad was not a good muslim, who is?

Islam is a religion of peace according to muslims, but muslims are killing-happy. Did you say for defence? Evidences abound of jihads fought where people who never saw Muhammad before were killed and their wives taken by him. His jihadists slept with their wives in their presence before they were killed for nothing.

What a good manner in islam. Saying something alone does not matter, doing it does. It takes hypocricy to be a muslim.


"And when they hear vain talk, they turn away therefrom and say: 'To us our deeds, and to you yours; peace be to you: we seek not the ignorant. ' (The Noble Quran, 28:55) "

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Re: Good Manners In Islam: Illuminating The Non-muslims by Rilwayne001: 8:43pm On Jul 14, 2014
PAGAN9JA: Why does islam ask muslims to destroy the religious places of other religions?
No, islam never teaches that^^… below is what islam taught, you might see people engage in such nefarious act, but blame it on them not on islam cos islam teaches otherwise.

"Allah forbids you not, With regard to those who Fight you not for (your) Faith Nor drive you out Of your homes, From dealing kindly and justly With them: For Allah loveth Those who are just. (The Noble Quran, 60:8.

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Re: Good Manners In Islam: Illuminating The Non-muslims by larrymoore(m): 8:49pm On Jul 14, 2014
PAGAN9JA: Why does islam ask muslims to destroy the religious places of other religions?
bible obviously says Kill Followers of Other
Religions "If your own full brother,
or your son or daughter, or your beloved wife, or you intimate friend, entices you secretly to serve other gods, whom
you and your fathers have not known, gods of any other nations, near at
hand or far away, from one end of the earth to the other: do not yield to him or listen to him, nor look with pity upon him, to
spare or shield him, but kill him. Your hand shall be the first raised to slay
him; the rest of the people shall join in with you. You shall stone him to death,
because he sought to lead you astray from the Lord,
your God, who brought you out of the land of Egypt, that place of
slavery. And all Israel,hearing of this, shall fear and never do such evil as
this in your midst." (Deuteronomy 13:7-12
Re: Good Manners In Islam: Illuminating The Non-muslims by PAGAN9JA(m): 8:52pm On Jul 14, 2014
Rilwayne001:
"Allah forbids you not, With regard to those who Fight you not for (your) Faith Nor drive you out Of your homes, From dealing kindly and justly With them: For Allah loveth Those who are just. (The Noble Quran, 60:8.


Ok then why did your hypocrite prophet order the destruction of all Pagan shrines in Arabia and beyond, including the Red Kaaba of Allat, Temples of Wadd, Yaghuth ,etc.


And why did your evil prophet send assasins to kill the Priests, Priestesses and Soothsayers of these Holy Places?

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Re: Good Manners In Islam: Illuminating The Non-muslims by PAGAN9JA(m): 8:53pm On Jul 14, 2014
larrymoore: bible obviously says Kill Followers of Other
Religions "If your own full brother,
or your son or daughter, or your beloved wife, or you intimate friend, entices you secretly to serve other gods, whom
you and your fathers have not known, gods of any other nations, near at
hand or far away, from one end of the earth to the other: do not yield to him or listen to him, nor look with pity upon him, to
spare or shield him, but kill him. Your hand shall be the first raised to slay
him; the rest of the people shall join in with you. You shall stone him to death,
because he sought to lead you astray from the Lord,
your God, who brought you out of the land of Egypt, that place of
slavery. And all Israel,hearing of this, shall fear and never do such evil as
this in your midst." (Deuteronomy 13:7-12

Dude I dont care for your damned bible. its a book of jewish trash anyways.
Re: Good Manners In Islam: Illuminating The Non-muslims by truthman2012(m): 9:11pm On Jul 14, 2014
Rilwayne001:

"And when they hear vain talk, they turn away therefrom and say: 'To us our deeds, and to you yours; peace be to you: we seek not the ignorant. ' (The Noble Quran, 28:55) "

Vain talk? I will post the evidences tomorrow, God willing.
Re: Good Manners In Islam: Illuminating The Non-muslims by texanomaly(f): 9:12pm On Jul 14, 2014
PAGAN9JA:

Dude I dont care for your damned bible. its a book of jewish trash anyways.

PAGAN9JA...I can't believe I had to point this out to you. He is quoting scripture that clearly states that you have the right to kill him. The Christian God is not the God of your fathers, or his for that matter. So if we take the bolded statement out of context , the way so many Christians do to serve their own purposes....?


larrymoore: bible obviously says Kill Followers of Other
Religions "If your own full brother,
or your son or daughter, or your beloved wife, or you intimate friend, entices you secretly to serve other gods, whom
you and your fathers have not known, gods of any other nations, near at
hand or far away,
from one end of the earth to the other: do not yield to him or listen to him, nor look with pity upon him, to
spare or shield him, but kill him. Your hand shall be the first raised to slay
him; the rest of the people shall join in with you. You shall stone him to death,
because he sought to lead you astray from the Lord,
your God, who brought you out of the land of Egypt, that place of
slavery. And all Israel,hearing of this, shall fear and never do such evil as
this in your midst." (Deuteronomy 13:7-12

Sorry LarrySun. You did walk right I to that one. Technically the God of Israel is not the God of your Fathers or mine, for that matter. Although I believe He is the same.


Just sayin' undecided
Re: Good Manners In Islam: Illuminating The Non-muslims by Rilwayne001: 9:21pm On Jul 14, 2014
PAGAN9JA:

Ok then why did your hypocrite prophet order the destruction of all Pagan shrines in Arabia and beyond, including the Red Kaaba of Allat, Temples of Wadd, Yaghuth ,etc.

And why did your evil prophet send assasins to kill the Priests, Priestesses and Soothsayers of these Holy Places?

Surah Al-Baqara, Verse 191:
And slay them wherever ye find them, and drive them out of the places whence they drove you out, for persecution is worse than slaughter. And fight not with them at the Inviolable Place of Worship until they first attack you there, but if they attack you (there) then slay them. Such is the reward of disbelievers. (English - Pickthal)

Surah Al-Baqara, Verse 192:
But if they desist, then lo! Allah is Forgiving, Merciful.
(English - Pickthal)

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Re: Good Manners In Islam: Illuminating The Non-muslims by Rilwayne001: 9:24pm On Jul 14, 2014
truthman2012:

Vain talk? I will post the evidences tomorrow, God willing.

Post your usual traash as far as the Quran is concerned you dont av a point

..but get ready for horror killings/murder in the bible ordered by the bible god.. see you tommorow

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Re: Good Manners In Islam: Illuminating The Non-muslims by TheBigUrban2: 9:26pm On Jul 14, 2014
Rilwayne001:

Surah Al-Baqara, Verse 191:
And slay them wherever ye find them, and drive them out of the places whence they drove you out, for persecution is worse than slaughter. And fight not with them at the Inviolable Place of Worship until they first attack you there, but if they attack you (there) then slay them. Such is the reward of disbelievers. (English - Pickthal)




So you are using pictkhal translation!

Please quote surah 4;34 with the pickthal translation.
Re: Good Manners In Islam: Illuminating The Non-muslims by Rilwayne001: 9:32pm On Jul 14, 2014
TheBigUrban2:


So you are using pictkhal translation!

Please quote surah 4;34 with the pickthal translation.

Surah An-Nisa, Verse 34:
Men are in charge of women, because Allah hath made the one of them to excel the other, and because they spend of their property (for the support of women). So good women are the obedient, guarding in secret that which Allah hath guarded. As for those from whom ye fear rebellion, admonish them and banish them to beds apart, and scourge them. Then if they obey you, seek not a way against them. Lo! Allah is ever High, Exalted, Great. (English - Pickthal)

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Re: Good Manners In Islam: Illuminating The Non-muslims by truthman2012(m): 9:42pm On Jul 14, 2014
Rilwayne001:

Post your usual traash as far as the Quran is concerned you dont av a point

..but get ready for horror killings/murder in the bible ordered by the bible god.. see you tommorow

In the old or new testament? With sleeping with their wives. Till tomorrow.
Re: Good Manners In Islam: Illuminating The Non-muslims by PAGAN9JA(m): 9:46pm On Jul 14, 2014
Rilwayne001:

Surah Al-Baqara, Verse 191:
And slay them wherever ye find them, and drive them out of the places whence they drove you out, for persecution is worse than slaughter. And fight not with them at the Inviolable Place of Worship until they first attack you there, but if they attack you (there) then slay them. Such is the reward of disbelievers. (English - Pickthal)

Surah Al-Baqara, Verse 192:
But if they desist, then lo! Allah is Forgiving, Merciful.
(English - Pickthal)


Nonsense! What have the Priests of these far off and isolated Shrines got to do with muhammads jihadis?! angry

Instead of driving us out you killed our Priests and Destroyed our Shrines. Are you saying this logic applies to the Shrines of Khazraj, the East Coast (Mahra,etc.,), Yemen, Iran and henceforth ? angry angry angry angry


Bullshyt. fellow. we will do the same to you muslims then as well.

You and I, we both know the truth of this Arabic prophet.
Re: Good Manners In Islam: Illuminating The Non-muslims by TheBigUrban2: 9:48pm On Jul 14, 2014
Rilwayne001:

Surah An-Nisa, Verse 34:
Men are in charge of women, because Allah hath made the one of them to excel the other, and because they spend of their property (for the support of women). So good women are the obedient, guarding in secret that which Allah hath guarded. As for those from whom ye fear rebellion, admonish them and banish them to beds apart, and scourge them. Then if they obey you, seek not a way against them. Lo! Allah is ever High, Exalted, Great. (English - Pickthal)


You bolded the wrong parts



Men are in charge of women, because Allah hath made the one of them to excel the other, and because they spend of their property (for the support of women). So good women are the obedient, guarding in secret that which Allah hath guarded. As for those from whom ye fear rebellion, admonish them and banish them to beds apart, and scourge them. Then if they obey you, seek not a way against them. Lo! Allah is ever High, Exalted, Great.


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Scourging women is in the Quran

scourge
skəːdʒ/Submit
noun
1.
historical
a whip used as an instrument of punishment.
synonyms: whip, horsewhip, lash, strap, birch, switch, flail; More
Re: Good Manners In Islam: Illuminating The Non-muslims by Rilwayne001: 9:53pm On Jul 14, 2014
truthman2012:

In the old or new testament? With sleeping with their wives. Till tomorrow.

yea, Plus takin the virgins as war captives and killing those that are not virgins including children...ordered by the bubull god..see you 2mao.

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Re: Good Manners In Islam: Illuminating The Non-muslims by Rilwayne001: 9:58pm On Jul 14, 2014
PAGAN9JA:

Nonsense! What have the Priests of these far off and isolated Shrines got to do with muhammads jihadis?! angry

Instead of driving us out you killed our Priests and Destroyed our Shrines. Are you saying this logic applies to the Shrines of Khazraj, the East Coast (Mahra,etc.,), Yemen, Iran and henceforth ? angry angry angry angry


Bullshyt. fellow. we will do the same to you muslims then as well.

You and I, we both know the truth of this Arabic prophet.



Sorry man but your people killed most early muslims and turned them out of there fathers land.

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Re: Good Manners In Islam: Illuminating The Non-muslims by Rilwayne001: 10:03pm On Jul 14, 2014
TheBigUrban2:
You bolded the wrong parts
Men are in charge of women, because Allah hath made the one of them to excel the other, and because they spend of their property (for the support of women). So good women are the obedient, guarding in secret that which Allah hath guarded. As for those from whom ye fear rebellion, admonish them and banish them to beds apart, and scourge them. Then if they obey you, seek not a way against them. Lo! Allah is ever High, Exalted, Great.
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Scourging women is in the Quran.
scourge
skəːdʒ/Submit
noun
1.
historical
a whip used as an instrument of punishment.
synonyms: whip, horsewhip, lash, strap, birch, switch, flail; More

So whats your point @bolded
Re: Good Manners In Islam: Illuminating The Non-muslims by TheBigUrban2: 10:08pm On Jul 14, 2014
Rilwayne001:

So whats your point @bolded



TheBigUrban2: Beating your wife is also a sign of good manners and chastity in islam
Surah 4:34
Re: Good Manners In Islam: Illuminating The Non-muslims by PAGAN9JA(m): 10:09pm On Jul 14, 2014
Rilwayne001:


Sorry man but your people killed most early muslims and turned them out of there fathers land.




Answer my question. Can I go and preach Paganism in Saudi Arabia and Mekkah?
Re: Good Manners In Islam: Illuminating The Non-muslims by PAGAN9JA(m): 10:12pm On Jul 14, 2014
Question 2:

Lets say for Arguments sake that the Pagans initiated killing muslims and then both sides slaughtered each other, with the muslims massacring more of us and Jews..

Why destroy shrines and kill priests and forcefully convert Pagans who have no involvement?

Should we also use the same argument and kill all muslims and destroy all mosques because some muslims are killing our people?

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