frosbel:

Sorry Sir,I don't take advice from someone who is captive to a church that almost destroyed me.

You are indeed a victim of American pentecostal brain washing and I pity you to the extent that I hope you see the light.

shdemidemi:

Do you have a bible passage that says people were justified outside God or aside Christ?

shdemidemi:

Did the bible divide the law?

nep2ra:

Quoting what God said through JEWS and upholding that as the standard for Divine Revelation

Why don't you quote what God said through your African ancestors. Were there no prophets in Africa whom God spoke through?

Better still, give us more quotations of what God said through other races.

frosbel:

But I do not believe he is the Jewish God, I believe he used some Jewish people and also other gentiles to preach the gospel. Besides if it sounds right and impacts humanity as a whole in a positive way then it must be God.

The problem with our people who I believe worshipped the true God as Chineke or Chukwu etc is that we have in many cases no written tradition of recording messages, prophecies etc.

alexleo:

Hahahaha the confusions continues. How does this fit into what I wrote? Was I advising you? NO. I simply reminded you what you told me and others here on nairaland some two years ago that we should stick to the scripture and Jesus and compared with what you are doing now. Did that sound like an advise?. I remember how you made so much noise about sticking to the bible and Jesus. The records are there. Sorry bros you are confirming your confused state the more.

Bidam: I already quoted Romans 2:14-15, though i don't understand what you mean outside God...Even when Paul preached to the greeks explained to them that what they call "an unknown god" is the creator of the heavens and the earth, try and understand that God is in the conscience of every man whether he wants to admit it or not..They just need a nudge and the work of the Holy Spirit to set them in the right Path..It is no fault of theirs if no one preaches Christ to them..Pls read also Acts 17:22-30.

God overlooks ignorance when men like you do not preach the gospel to those who never heard of Jesus, but waste time defending irrelevancies and non essentials, your duty is to preach the gospel of Christ and not to defend so called doctrines you percieve to be wrong.

doubleDx: Makes a lot of sense frosbel! God is for all who believe in him/her/it!

Bidam: Can christians kill, steal and murder?

frosbel:

1. But you are a victim to a church that has it's HQ not in heaven where Jesus is but in Portland Oregon , no
2. A church that once preached against medicine and I was hours away from death because I thought it was a sin to disobey.
3. A place where all other denominations are condemned to hell
4. A place that operates like a cult with a few privileged men at its helm, no women leaders.

etc etc

Pal, I said good bye to all that rubbish many years ago , lol.

JesusisLord85:

God is a man sir.


Just saying.

frosbel:

God is not a MAN , he is therefore genderless.

JesusisLord85:

Another lie of oyinbo christianity:

Exodus 15:3 "The LORD is a man of war: the LORD is his name"

When he said we are made in his image, you best believe it brother.

JesusisLord85:

God is a man sir.


Just saying.

JesusisLord85:

God is a man sir.


Just saying.

frosbel: ^^

But how can I take you seriously when the version of bible you listen to and preach is based on the Apostolic Faith interpretation ?

frosbel:

Well I throw another one back at you

"God is not a man, so he does not lie. He is not human, so he does not change his mind. " - Numbers 23:19

alexleo:

What is there to interpret? Most of the things written in the bible are plain statements that you don't need anybody to interpret what has AF got to do with it?. You know I dont read one version of the bible because I ve made several biblical quotations here from other versions. Frosbel you are just confused. You know me better than what you are now saying.

JesusisLord85:

God is a man sir.


Just saying.

doubleDx:

But you err greatly Chief; God is a man? Give me scriptural evidences for that crap

LOL, God is a spirit...In he/she/it is light, wisdom and knowledge to understand all....that's only if you understand what I'm trying to put across

John 4:24 (KJV)

God is a Spirit: and they that worship him must worship him in spirit and in truth.


1 Timothy 1:17 (KJV)

Now unto the King eternal, immortal, invisible, the only wise God, be honour and glory for ever and ever. Amen.

frosbel:

If they were so plain how come you lack understanding on most of the core issues ?

shdemidemi:

If we must preach the gospel, the right seed has to be planted.

Many are planting a lookalike seed from the evil one. Coke remains coke when it is undiluted, as soon as you add anything it is no more coke but something else. Most people teach something else when it comes to this issue of salvation.

Having said that, Romans 2:14-15 never said anyone is justified by the law. Please read it properly.

Bidam: So what seed have you planted to those who NEVER heard of Jesus Christ?

Bidam:
So far, you have not been doing a good job about it because denominations keeps increasing day by day, we have more than thousands denominations who differ from your point of view, why waste time to prove who is right and who is wrong?Even Paul didn't bother, hear him: It is true that some preach Christ out of envy and rivalry, but others out of goodwill, the latter do so in love, knowing that i am put here for the defense of the gospel. The former preach Christ out of SELFISH AMBITIONS not sincerely, supposing that they can stir up trouble for me while i am in chains. But what does it matter? The important thing IS THAT IN EVERY WAY WHETHER FROM FALSE MOTIVE OR TRUE, Christ is preached. And because of this I rejoice.( Phil 1:15-18). Like i said earlier you business is to preach Christ...nobody called you to separate wheat from tares..If that is your calling? Can you show me where scriptures supports your stance? .

Bidam:

I read it properly and i still maintain what the scripture said that gentiles who who do not have the law and show the requirements of the law written in their hearts and their consciences bearing them witness to either accuse them or defend their actions will be judged by that at the judgement seat of Christ.It is either you accept or reject that portion of scripture.You cannot eat your cake and have it.

Bidam: So what seed have you planted to those who NEVER heard of Jesus Christ?
So far, you have not been doing a good job about it because denominations keeps increasing day by day, we have more than thousands denominations who differ from your point of view, why waste time to prove who is right and who is wrong?Even Paul didn't bother, hear him: It is true that some preach Christ out of envy and rivalry, but others out of goodwill, the latter do so in love, knowing that i am put here for the defense of the gospel. The former preach Christ out of SELFISH AMBITIONS not sincerely, supposing that they can stir up trouble for me while i am in chains. But what does it matter? The important thing IS THAT IN EVERY WAY WHETHER FROM FALSE MOTIVE OR TRUE, Christ is preached. And because of this I rejoice.( Phil 1:15-18). Like i said earlier you business is to preach Christ...nobody called you to separate wheat from tares..If that is your calling? Can you show me where scriptures supports your stance?
I read it properly and i still maintain what the scripture said that gentiles who who do not have the law and show the requirements of the law written in their hearts and their consciences bearing them witness to either accuse them or defend their actions will be judged by that at the judgement seat of Christ.It is either you accept or reject that portion of scripture.You cannot eat your cake and have it.

JesusisLord85:

Exodus 33:19-23

And he said, I will make all my goodness pass before thee, and I will proclaim the name of the Lord before thee; and will be gracious to whom I will be gracious, and will shew mercy on whom I will shew mercy.

20 And he said, Thou canst not see my face: for there shall no man see me, and live.

21 And the Lord said, Behold, there is a place by me, and thou shalt stand upon a rock:

22 And it shall come to pass, while my glory passeth by, that I will put thee in a clift of the rock, and will cover thee with my hand while I pass by:

23 And I will take away mine hand, and thou shalt see my back parts: but my face shall not be seen.

Invisible, unless he chooses to reveal himself to you. And why should you see him, thou art a sinner and deny the King of Kings.

shdemidemi:

See, if you want to kill, be quick. Go do it fast, you will definitely meet God there by the time you do it.

The question I think you want to ask is, will God's gift of salvation still stand after a Christian fall- i.e kill, steal and what have you.

shdemidemi:

If I may ask, what has that got to do with this thread?

On the contrary Apostle Paul spent an ample percent of his life fighting against false teachers especially from those of the circumcision who teach error.

My brother, judgement isn't a negative word. Everyone will be judged, some to glory and some damned. Now, I ask you a simple question.

Is anyone going to be justified by the works of the law, be it Jew or gentile?

Bidam: You are the guy with the ministry of planting seeds or whatever you call it, you ask yourself that question. You brought irrelevant issues up not me..Refer to your post.

Ok go ahead and start fighting also that males shouldn't be circumcised if that will make you feel better.

I just quoted scriptures when i answered frosbel which so far you were unsuccessfully unable to do, you are they guy confused here..Go back and study more.Cheers!

doubleDx:

Agreed, I'm a sinner because I have sinned but fallen short of the glory of GOD (Romans 3:23) Are you without sin? Then cast the first stone!

You do err because you know nothing about the word of GOD! You are just a confused, deluded and spiritually dead fellow claiming to know !

And I repeat, GOD IS NOT A MAN!


Numbers 23:19 (KJV)

God is not a man, that he should lie; neither the son of man, that he should repent: hath he said, and shall he not do it? or hath he spoken, and shall he not make it good?


^^^

It appears you are the liar and NOT my GOD