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Re: Commanding Fire Down From Heaven - God's Will Or Not ? by shdemidemi(m): 7:52am On Aug 01, 2014 |
Olusanya333: Pray that u attain such a Spiritual glory nd stop deceiving urself. Don't just hold d form of Religion nd deny the Power of it. Our weapon is nt carnal but strong and mighty in pulling down the Stronghold of d enemy. Please, go and check what 'stronghold' means... The bible never said stronghold of the enemy, you added that. Check what stronghold mean for clarity. Olusanya333: He taught me in the Lord Prayer "Let thy will be done" Its will dat Agent of darkness r destroyed. I'm talking in Spiritual enviroment He says 'God's will be done', what correlation has that got with praying against what you call devil? You are yet to show me the connection between 'God will be done' and fighting agent of darkness. If Jesus did not teach us to pray that way, where did you invent such prayer points? Did you see any disciple or apostle or Jesus pray such prayers? 1 Like |
Re: Commanding Fire Down From Heaven - God's Will Or Not ? by nep2ra(m): 9:59am On Aug 01, 2014 |
Olusanya333: Pray that u attain such a Spiritual glory nd stop deceiving urself. Don't just hold d form of Religion nd deny the Power of it. Our weapon is nt carnal but strong and mighty in pulling down the Stronghold of d enemy. Abegi...na today? :/ |
Re: Commanding Fire Down From Heaven - God's Will Or Not ? by Nobody: 10:58am On Aug 01, 2014 |
[quote author=shdemidemi] But how can God be for something and also against it ? Jesus was the exact representation of the father ( both of us agree on this ) , and he was always on about how God wanted men to be saved and not destroyed, he also rebuked the disciples for wanting to call down fire from heaven yet Elijah was able to do this with God's consent. Is this not contradictory ?
Ofcourse it's the same God/Jesus of old who came to save the world at the appropriate time. First off, Jesus was not of Old, God was. But are you insinuating that salvation only came when Jesus arrived and prior to that there was no salvation possible to the gentiles ? Because they are ignorant of where they stand in Christ today. We agree on this. |
Re: Commanding Fire Down From Heaven - God's Will Or Not ? by Olusanya333(m): 12:12pm On Aug 01, 2014 |
shdemidemi:Are you doing what the Apostle are doing then? Their is a promise of protection for belivers that do certain things nd dat d Apostle did dats why dey don't pray such prayer. Have u not read about the two olives that stand in the presence of the Lord? dat whoever wants to harm dem fire come forth nd destroy dem. Now dis Fire came frm God nd dis Olives r two prophet to come to d world. If u can attain what the Apostle attain no need to pray such a prayer. |
Re: Commanding Fire Down From Heaven - God's Will Or Not ? by paxonel(m): 2:02pm On Aug 01, 2014 |
frosbel: "Then the king sent to him a captain of fifty with his fifty. And he went up to him, and behold, he was sitting on the top of the hill. And he said to him, "O man of God, the king says, 'Come down.'" Elijah replied to the captain of fifty, "If I am a man of God, let fire come down from heaven and consume you and your fifty." Then fire came down from heaven and consumed him and his fifty.…" - 2 Kings 1:9-10Have you ever seen or hear any church bringing down fire from heaven before? 2 Likes |
Re: Commanding Fire Down From Heaven - God's Will Or Not ? by jdilight(m): 2:13pm On Aug 01, 2014 |
frosbel: "Then the king sent to him a captain of fifty with his fifty. And he went up to him, and behold, he was sitting on the top of the hill. And he said to him, "O man of God, the king says, 'Come down.'" Elijah replied to the captain of fifty, "If I am a man of God, let fire come down from heaven and consume you and your fifty." Then fire came down from heaven and consumed him and his fifty.…" - 2 Kings 1:9-10 This two people you mentioned came with different messages from the same God, under different law. The fire came under the law of moses: tooth for tat while Jesus was under the law of Christ: forgiveness. |
Re: Commanding Fire Down From Heaven - God's Will Or Not ? by Nobody: 2:15pm On Aug 01, 2014 |
Humanity can begin to move forward once we get rid of religion. We need good roads,constant electricity,employment in Nigeria,not God. 1 Like |
Re: Commanding Fire Down From Heaven - God's Will Or Not ? by Weah96: 4:38pm On Aug 01, 2014 |
paxonel: If pastors are curing Ebola with prayers, what is ordinary fire? |
Re: Commanding Fire Down From Heaven - God's Will Or Not ? by nep2ra(m): 11:06pm On Aug 02, 2014 |
ifeness: Humanity can begin to move forward once we get rid of religion. We need good roads,contant electricity,employment in Nigeria,not God. A beautiful human being with a beautiful mind. |
Re: Commanding Fire Down From Heaven - God's Will Or Not ? by Nobody: 1:09pm On Aug 22, 2014 |
ifeness: Humanity can begin to move forward once we get rid of religion. We need good roads,constant electricity,employment in Nigeria,not God. Yes, we need God. What do you have after you die? Roads, employment? Think more than the physical dear |
Re: Commanding Fire Down From Heaven - God's Will Or Not ? by Weah96: 1:42pm On Aug 22, 2014 |
Timzy234:What do you have after you die? How do you know? |
Re: Commanding Fire Down From Heaven - God's Will Or Not ? by Nobody: 1:51pm On Aug 22, 2014 |
Weah96: If I die, I die with belief...what would you die with? |
Re: Commanding Fire Down From Heaven - God's Will Or Not ? by Weah96: 2:10pm On Aug 22, 2014 |
Timzy234: Look at what 'belief' is doing to Ebola, I should say what Ebola is doing to belief. Belief should be based on reality. If you were to turn up at the John Hopkins medical center for a common headache, any physician there could give you a pill made out of corn meal and it would cure your symptoms. That's how belief and faith work. One's mind has to be completely tricked and should hold zero doubts. How is that possible? The senses must also be tricked. The way you guys are doing yours is foolishness. It's completely blind. Do you think that your mind can be tricked that easily? The fact that you have not died before, or spoken to someone who has, makes your belief about the afterlife childish. It's the equivalent of closing your eyes, wishing for a brand new vehicle to appear in your driveway, and then running outside to look. That's foolishness, not belief. Real belief is called the Placebo effect in science and it requires the corroboration of reality. How many Ebola patients has God healed? |
Re: Commanding Fire Down From Heaven - God's Will Or Not ? by Nobody: 2:14pm On Aug 22, 2014 |
Weah96: You have not answered my question yet, answer it, and I'll answer you |
Re: Commanding Fire Down From Heaven - God's Will Or Not ? by Nobody: 2:27pm On Aug 22, 2014 |
frosbel: "Then the king sent to him a captain of fifty with his fifty. And he went up to him, and behold, he was sitting on the top of the hill. And he said to him, "O man of God, the king says, 'Come down.'" Elijah replied to the captain of fifty, "If I am a man of God, let fire come down from heaven and consume you and your fifty." Then fire came down from heaven and consumed him and his fifty.…" - 2 Kings 1:9-10 The situation in the two accounts were different. The boys mocked Elijah while the individuals at Luke 9 didn't do so. - Jesus made the statement "...the Son of Man did not come to destroy men’s lives, but to save them!" , does this not mean that a lot of violence we attribute to God may not have been his will or even ordered by him. Reading this portion of the bible will be misleading. The words added by KJV writers are doubtful. Jesus did not say that. Read it in NIV or ESV instead. God do change in some cases. But His purpose does not change. |
Re: Commanding Fire Down From Heaven - God's Will Or Not ? by Nobody: 9:48am On Aug 24, 2014 |
Timzy234: Why do you need God? What happened to a Goddess? 1 Like |
Re: Commanding Fire Down From Heaven - God's Will Or Not ? by Weah96: 9:55am On Aug 24, 2014 |
Timzy234: I did. Belief is worse than useless if not grounded in reality. I shall die in the hopes that someday my meat vehicle will help provide some healthy potatoes for a small family. That's a belief too, but mine is based on the behavior of nature. |
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