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Re: There Is A Race Riot Going On In America Right Now!! by freeafrica365: 7:21pm On Aug 28, 2014 |
all4naija: You cannot comprehend my post yet you are willing to debate an issue as involving sensitive topic as slavery. Mind you, you posted some links to ascertain your views which I pointed out to you for not using you discretion to spot the loopholes in them. That is a big shame on your side. Loopholes? There is no loophole to actual facts. AFRICANS sold AFRICANS, whether they had help or not was not my point. I am waiting on your answer: DID AFRICANS NOT SELL AFRICANS? WITH PROOF: Yes or no, that will suffice. You seem to have this incessant need to hear yourself talk, even when it is by mere key strokes. If you get the last key stroke, would that be a win for you? Because after this, I am done entertaining you. I only debate or banter with Nigerians not white trolls. Your unsubstantiated claim that 90% of the world had slaves, another non factor to my point: I distinguished the two systems that you tried to conflate. You tried to place slavery under one umbrella. And I rightly distinguished the two systems. Just as WHITE (because, well, you probably are) as can be, you decided that everyone should stop talking about slavery, because...you wanted to emphasize that EVERYONE was enslaved. I pointed out that you cant compare REAL HOLOCAUST SLAVERY to INDENTURED SERVITUDE, which you attempted to umbrella and reference. THEN... You tried to debase and DEBUNK my position by asking for numeric values...positioning that Africans couldn't have done it alone, which NO ONE denied. So again, you just like to hear yourself talk. Because had you wanted a real debate you wouldve COUNTERED my assertion that AFRICANS SOLD AFRICANS. No. What do you do? You jump around asking me about how many kings sold Africans, then you said, "oh get over it Africa, we were all slaves". THAT isnt true, 90% of the world did NOT practice the slavery that I am talking about, And I asked you, even IF I decided to waste my time and provide a list of the AFRICANS that were participants in the HOLOCAUST - that it DID NOT and will NOT debase my premise that: AFRICANS sold AFRICANS. Your notion that simply because they had WHITE help, which the WORLD knows..does NOTHING to debase my original argument. 1. You dart around with hyperboles 2. You dont seek to counter with a serious counter. AND THE POINT BOILS DOWN TO: WHY AFRICAN AMERICANS AND CARIBBEANS might feel slighted, I cite slavery. You come in - just like the resident troll that you are to twist around facts that are not twistable. If this isnt clear, I dont know what is: In regards to this fallacy that 90% of the world was enslaved..to the degree of the holocaust that was committed against STOLEN and SOLD AFRICANS is strictly and solely about semantics. Slavery was INDENTURED servitude - it would be the equivalent of working AT A JOB in the 90% of the world that you are talking about. Dont conflate social phenomena and social events to discount the tragic role that we played in our own demise. INDENTURED SERVITUDE was NOT the slavery and holocaust that I am talking about! Your, "but all people were slaves, dont get mad Africans" sounds very white by the way. Dont provide hyperboles, generalizations, source your arguments for future engagements with me, you white bigot! 2 Likes |
Re: There Is A Race Riot Going On In America Right Now!! by freeafrica365: 7:27pm On Aug 28, 2014 |
all4naija: I rarely call people dumb, but you are. 1. A reference point was needed for him to research the kings apology. With that reference point, he could research the kings DOCUMENTED evidence and role in slavery. 2. The reference to kings was purely historical. You dont quite get it because you are not well versed on the subject, and instead of actually providing ME with proof that I was wrong, you and your alter ego cite oral history, and hearsay. I dont need to prove anything. If you want to debate i d i o t, at least debase my argument. |
Re: There Is A Race Riot Going On In America Right Now!! by anonymous6(f): 7:29pm On Aug 28, 2014 |
freeafrica365: I know I wasn't born here magically and I know the benefits of the Civil rights movement struggle of decades ago have done for me, It made people like President Obama, Oprah, Condolessa Rice, Mellody Hobson and many others possible. I help Nigeria they way I want and have donated to Bring back Our girls as well. Your not God and I am not, so you have no right to judge me as if you opinion is the holy grail, cause mine are not the holy grail opinions either. Is there still issues since the Civil rights movement of decades ago? YES, Was the Trayvon Martin Case of last year one of them? YES but is Ferguson one of them? not so much OK, CNN: http://www.cnn.com/2014/08/19/us/ferguson-michael-brown-dueling-narratives/ Yeah I know it's a open forum and I will encounter people with differing opinions but to insult is something entirely something I won't do but you did, which is what I am suspecting is how you communicate with people on nairaland. Lets agree to disagree have a good day |
Re: There Is A Race Riot Going On In America Right Now!! by freeafrica365: 7:34pm On Aug 28, 2014 |
anonymous6: Ok well I apologize to you because you are actually black Nigerian. I will not apologize to that white troll! Here is an alternative view (I do disagree with your position still but i will just provide you with links, you are my sister) Will add more http://colorlines.com/archives/2014/08/what_to_read_about_ferguson.html http://colorlines.com/archives/2014/08/10_social_media_shares_about_the_horrors_in_ferguson.html http://colorlines.com/archives/2014/08/9_things_about_ferguson_that_will_make_go_hmmm.html http://www.politicususa.com/2014/08/19/deep-seated-racism-root-ferguson-polices-handling-mike-brown-shooting.html http://socialistworker.org/2014/08/20/racism-killed-mike-brown 1 Like |
Re: There Is A Race Riot Going On In America Right Now!! by freeafrica365: 7:38pm On Aug 28, 2014 |
@anonymous6 Here is the civil rights point: http://news.yahoo.com/ferguson-releases-incomplete-police-report-on-death-of-michael-brown-221844542.html http://www.dailykos.com/story/2014/08/18/1322624/-The-Niggerization-of-Michael-Brown-by-the-Ferguson-Police-Department-and-the-Right-Wing-Media Melissa H Perry MSNBC on SAT |
Re: There Is A Race Riot Going On In America Right Now!! by anonymous6(f): 7:39pm On Aug 28, 2014 |
freeafrica365: Ok, I respect that from you and I will read your sources You don't need to apologize to a white troll, lol 1 Like |
Re: There Is A Race Riot Going On In America Right Now!! by freeafrica365: 7:41pm On Aug 28, 2014 |
anonymous6: Ok thank you sister! Please please try to watch Melissa Perry on msnbc. She comes on Saturdays. I know we are going to unite one day. |
Re: There Is A Race Riot Going On In America Right Now!! by Nobody: 7:50pm On Aug 28, 2014 |
freeafrica365:Smh... Did you really write this post to make sense? I can't in the good of me pleading to help you see where you are wrong in your approach while you are still bent on refusing to accept the truth of the argument. On what I term as the loopholes in my posts are the rationals behind your hard-held views on slavery. One of them is clear the KINGs couldn't have possibly sold the slaves numbering tenth to the hundredth of millions involved in black history. Another one is that the guns you think are traded for slaves could be for pepper and other materials the white people needed at the time. There are many instances where whites had encounter with black people on normal 'trade by barter' without having to take any slaves. It only comes to be when assistants where given to them all rather as servitude in homes and to tame their fields as well, culturally. They decided to come back after seeing how much blacks can work in the fields through forced labor which give rise to the Atlantic slavery. African kingdoms were possibly destroyed through this process. Stop begging the question with blatant retorts. They aren't making sense. I never denied Africans didn't sell Africans. But, there is no single source whatsoever that can prove it irrefutably that it happened looking at the way any position can be abused by the slave masters. please, give it a break. That assertion is becoming redundant in your posts. Suffice to say you have been talking about my personality in your posts more than the subject-matter proves you have no potent reason to defend your statements and I am compelled to look down on your views without any remorse. How many time have I tried to tell you the reason for 90% origin of forced labor around the world? Which you are now misrepresenting for something else. I think you are fixated on the number rather than the significance of what it is related to in my post. I am beginning to see your opinion as biased to defend your argument. On the final note, I am not going to respond to the other of your paragraphs as they are almost the same things as the previous ones and as senseless as ever. There is no need for you to run away. It is a heated discussion afterall! |
Re: There Is A Race Riot Going On In America Right Now!! by Nobody: 8:01pm On Aug 28, 2014 |
freeafrica365:Not this again! I said EXCLUSIVELY needed because you were using it to defend the slave masters'position in the skewed argument. You are very myopic, my friend. 1) The kings who apologized were possibly not aware of what happened in past history of slavery due to lack of documentation and poor story telling in African traditions. That could be said to be another means to demean the gravity of slavery on black people. 2) I never disputed that but history has been in most of the time repeatedly touched and retouched with biased information and I am not surprised those kings who apologized are not some much different from been brainwashed. Bwahaha... I have evidently pointed to your errors and made it clear here I am willing to debate with you in most of my post, using terms, debate, heated discussion and argument. I am not to blame for that if you can't see them in my posts. |
Re: There Is A Race Riot Going On In America Right Now!! by Nobody: 8:09pm On Aug 28, 2014 |
freeafrica365: I am not white, jerk! Please, I am black and white! |
Re: There Is A Race Riot Going On In America Right Now!! by BWOH2D: 5:58am On Sep 01, 2014 |
EbolaParasite: West Africa is a region, it'd be quite hard to find you. Additionally, I've been several times, next... |
Re: There Is A Race Riot Going On In America Right Now!! by BWOH2D: 6:11am On Sep 01, 2014 |
anonymous6: I need to address this. You're benefitting from struggles BEFORE Martin Luther, that's one. 2.) That struggle was solely for Blacks, no one else, others now benefit whereas we do not and there is still a struggle. My response is greatly condensed, however you need to seriously study the history in this country. 3.) Ferguson is a *tipping* point; this has been going on for hundreds of years with NO accountability. I can tell you right now what will happen; he will get off. Keep dreaming and when you wake up from that dream, DO NOT come to us. You have been warned. 1 Like |
Re: There Is A Race Riot Going On In America Right Now!! by BWOH2D: 6:12am On Sep 01, 2014 |
tonychristopher: This is where a lot of us miss it. And those who have your mindset will find out the hard way. 1 Like |
Re: There Is A Race Riot Going On In America Right Now!! by BWOH2D: 6:16am On Sep 01, 2014 |
anonymous6: 90% of your information regarding the Ferguson case is inaccurate. 1 Like |
Re: There Is A Race Riot Going On In America Right Now!! by BWOH2D: 6:20am On Sep 01, 2014 |
khiaa: You know the deal eh? lol 1 Like |
Re: There Is A Race Riot Going On In America Right Now!! by BWOH2D: 6:29am On Sep 01, 2014 |
EbolaParasite: I never stated all members were based in Nigeria. And for the ones who live in America, none of what you've stated negates what I've mentioned. You've all ready outed yourself as a non Black troll. You all usually throw the word *racist* around, not knowing what it actually means. 1 Like |
Re: There Is A Race Riot Going On In America Right Now!! by EbolaParasite: 3:19pm On Sep 01, 2014 |
BWOH2D: Non black troll? You got jokes. E b like say you don dey mara. How's that for a non black folk like myself. You are RACIST. End of |
Re: There Is A Race Riot Going On In America Right Now!! by EbolaParasite: 3:22pm On Sep 01, 2014 |
BWOH2D: Oh really, west africa is a region? Damn, I didnt know that. Chineke. I just happen to be a Nigerian with an ECOWAS passport and somehow that eluded me. Na wa ooo |
Re: There Is A Race Riot Going On In America Right Now!! by abdulwastecx(m): 4:02pm On Sep 01, 2014 |
all4naija: there is no such thing as black or white, those label are irrelevant to Nigerians. |
Re: There Is A Race Riot Going On In America Right Now!! by Nobody: 4:03pm On Sep 01, 2014 |
abdulwastecx:I have no idea of what you are talking about? Thank you. |
Re: There Is A Race Riot Going On In America Right Now!! by BWOH2D: 10:44pm On Sep 02, 2014 |
EbolaParasite: If you're really Black I suppose that makes it even worse. Pick up a few books and travel more. A lot of Africans (not all) only understand their locality. I find some to be very ignorant about history within Africa and outside of Africa and perpetuate a lot of propaganda/inaccuracy about Blacks in America (American Africans or African in America). Much can be said about some of us in the diaspora (the divide and conquer has done what it is supposed to do), we do the same, no escaping here. What I will focus on is continuing to build with ppl who understand and who Pan-African unity. I do not do brainwashed so called Blacks. Good day. |
Re: There Is A Race Riot Going On In America Right Now!! by EbolaParasite: 3:49am On Sep 03, 2014 |
BWOH2D: Phrase it anyway you want. Pan this, Pro that. It still doesn't change the fact that you are racist. |
Re: There Is A Race Riot Going On In America Right Now!! by Heavenissoreal: 5:57pm On Apr 22, 2015 |
666 is here already. Let’s Pray Hard: 6 6 6 The Mark Of The Beast Prophesy Finally Fulfilled… Written By: sdeezy de Sdotz Gh on january 20th 2015. The U S Senate has passed the Obama Health Bill into law. The implementation would commence soon. This bill would require all Americans to be implanted with a Radio Frequency Identification (RFID) chip inorder to access medical care. The device will be implemented on the forehead or on the arm. This is to fulfill the prophesy in the Book of Revelation 13:15-18 concerning the MARK OF THE BEAST. Are you still doubting the END TIME? Do u know that the special car which was made for Obama is known as the BEAST? Get READY. The rapture is near! Revelations 13 is being played out right before us. Many are still unaware. 1. Why is the chip being implanted exactly where the bible says it would be. Why on the hand and forehead. Why not anywhere else? 2. Why is being connected to your bank account? Remember the Bible says you wont be able to buy or sell without the mark 6 6 6. And guess what! The chip is connected to your financial details. What breaks my heart the most is that many people in the church will not make it if Jesus comes now? Many are unaware that the ends is near. Don’t tell me that its advancement in technology or development. If any area of your life is not in sync with God’s word repent and be converted. If you miss heaven you can never miss hell…think about it. Hell is not a pretty place, the worst part is that it is for eternity… He who has ears, let him hear what the Spirit says to the church. Please rather than post and forward senseless messages. Send to everyone you know. Do the work of an evangelist. PLEASE SHARE THIS MESSAGE WITH ALL YOUR CONTACTS. Have you ever wondered what should have happened if we treat the Holy Bible the way we treat our mobile phone? And we really can’t live without it. Only 7% percent will re-send this message. Don’t be of the 93% who will not share the message. Satan said. “I wonder how humans claim to LOVE GOD and disobey Him, and claim they hate me yet they obey me” Do not send later. Share and send now. May Almighty God grant success to everyone who reads and sends this message? AMEN. |
Re: There Is A Race Riot Going On In America Right Now!! by khiaa(f): 8:42pm On Apr 23, 2015 |
EbolaParasite: Yet they benefited from it with their gifts of liquor, guns, and cheap jewlery of copper and brass. PATHETIC !!! |
Re: There Is A Race Riot Going On In America Right Now!! by khiaa(f): 9:48pm On Apr 23, 2015 |
freeafrica365: YOU ARE THE TRUTH!!!! Most African Americans do not dislike Africans because of the past but for their behavior of the present. Some of them come to America with an arrogant attitude of superiority over black Americans and kisses the behinds of whites and that behavior makes them look very ugly and stu.pid to blacks and whites, and for the record, AA'S never asked Africans for their help nor support in the fight for civil rights. We are a strong people, that is why we were able to survive in spite of the centuries of abuse, we are still here and fighting for equality for everyone. We are the Kings and Queens of Civil Rights in America. *Heavy lays the head the wears the crown*. |
Re: There Is A Race Riot Going On In America Right Now!! by Nobody: 10:03pm On Apr 23, 2015 |
khiaa:That is not true, big mouth! Most African Americans are arrogant in nature and see Africans as backward compared to them. There is no Africans who are cocky in any way to African Americans when they are in USA. Only in your twisted mind that happens. Please, go and scream as usual in your ghetto bed corner. You liar! 1 Like |
Re: There Is A Race Riot Going On In America Right Now!! by khiaa(f): 10:28pm On Apr 23, 2015 |
anonymous6: Your posts reeks of so much ignorance, you speak like the movement was completed and ended with Martin Luther King. The Civil Rights Movevment continues today and will always continue as long as whites run this country and AA'S reside here, we will never stop fighting for the rights you so arrogantly enjoy. |
Re: There Is A Race Riot Going On In America Right Now!! by Nobody: 10:32pm On Apr 23, 2015 |
khiaa:Fight from a civilized perspective not through a primitive display of ignorance. That is the most appalling way to fight for your right,lady. I suggested they get educated on so many things and abide by the law first. 1 Like |
Re: There Is A Race Riot Going On In America Right Now!! by khiaa(f): 10:51pm On Apr 23, 2015 |
all4naija: You stup.id who.re why are you still posting to me? Do the world a favor and kill your useless halfbreed mutant behind. I told you before to stop posting to me girl. 1 Like |
Re: There Is A Race Riot Going On In America Right Now!! by Nobody: 10:55pm On Apr 23, 2015 |
khiaa:You are still on your girl's rant, i d i o t! I will post to you whenever I like because you don't make sense and you are a liar! 1 Like |
Re: There Is A Race Riot Going On In America Right Now!! by khiaa(f): 11:25pm On Apr 23, 2015 |
all4naija: GIRL, If I don't make any sense and I'm a liar, stop posting to me mor.on. |
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