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Re: There Is A Race Riot Going On In America Right Now!! by freeafrica365: 5:15pm On Aug 27, 2014 |
Obama is not African American. He is African and white - so he has no vested interest in African American culture, even though he is married to one. He created programs for Africans and a workshop for African Americans. And just like some of us Africans, he has a "I love the colonizer" mind set. He thinks that if the blacks there simply behaved, they wouldnt be killed...even though he gets a bilkion more death threats than any other president...and even though the poor black americans are getting killed in retaliation that he is black. He is no Nkrumah. |
Re: There Is A Race Riot Going On In America Right Now!! by freeafrica365: 5:19pm On Aug 27, 2014 |
bushdoc9919: Us immigrants dont think that we are Black, even though whites call us monkeys and refuse ebola treatment. Africans come to the US and look down on them. But as an African male we can still get shot, maybe not yet! |
Re: There Is A Race Riot Going On In America Right Now!! by freeafrica365: 5:21pm On Aug 27, 2014 |
Stanleyelege: America give us d zmapp drug . Pple re dying already. Thats right we need to stick together. They just gave us a drug to kill us. And we still think we are so different? 1 Like |
Re: There Is A Race Riot Going On In America Right Now!! by freeafrica365: 5:25pm On Aug 27, 2014 |
tonychristopher: I dont see why they would either: 1. We sold them. 2. We never offered to help. 3. When we did come, we lacked respect for them and then use up all the struggles that they fought for. Why they dont treat us like how the Jamaican views us is beyond me. Our indifference towards them ..then and now..is apparent. Oh well. I like them. They are my brothers. 2 Likes |
Re: There Is A Race Riot Going On In America Right Now!! by freeafrica365: 5:26pm On Aug 27, 2014 |
khiaa: Preach 1 Like |
Re: There Is A Race Riot Going On In America Right Now!! by freeafrica365: 5:27pm On Aug 27, 2014 |
hotwax: I dont give a blip. WHat have those black americans contributed to our lives here? None. Except they even come home and start forming yeye class. Calling blacks apes and animals is racist. Why should African Americans come home to a people that sold them? Are you daft? 1 Like |
Re: There Is A Race Riot Going On In America Right Now!! by freeafrica365: 5:29pm On Aug 27, 2014 |
BWOH2D: He is not a pan african. I say lets just chat with nigerians that are pan african. African Americans were saying bring back daughters, their celebs did fundraisers for Nigeria. Some wont get it. 2 Likes |
Re: There Is A Race Riot Going On In America Right Now!! by freeafrica365: 5:32pm On Aug 27, 2014 |
tpia1: Actually caribbeans dont like Africans more. I think we forget how they got there, it wasnt volunteer. 1 Like |
Re: There Is A Race Riot Going On In America Right Now!! by freeafrica365: 5:36pm On Aug 27, 2014 |
anonymous6: You are in America like me - benefiting from their struggles. And when they find a solution to this problem, your sons if you have them will benefit again. I never quite understood how we ..Nigerians that run and hide and flee to other countries can be so dismissive of other blacks..when we cant get our own shit together IN our countries. I am also a Nigerian but your response is of an ingrate. And it is shameful. Our culture isnt remarkably better, look at OUR country. 2 Likes |
Re: There Is A Race Riot Going On In America Right Now!! by freeafrica365: 5:42pm On Aug 27, 2014 |
lafuria1: They are insane in this thread. 2 Likes |
Re: There Is A Race Riot Going On In America Right Now!! by tonychristopher: 5:53pm On Aug 27, 2014 |
freeafrica365: oh i doubt, but been dark doesnt make us brother, w still have dark abos in australian and india so ...what do they want 4 Likes |
Re: There Is A Race Riot Going On In America Right Now!! by freeafrica365: 7:06pm On Aug 27, 2014 |
tonychristopher: Whites seem to find brotherhood when it counts. 1 Like |
Re: There Is A Race Riot Going On In America Right Now!! by anonymous6(f): 12:58pm On Aug 28, 2014 |
freeafrica365: I'm benefiting from the struggles of the civil rights movement from Martin Luther king and other civil rights activist; and what they struggled for has been accomplished for not only African americans but for all blacks and other non-blacks and non-whites who are American or immigrants. Ferguson has nothing to do with the civil rights movement struggle, so my response has nothing to do with a ingrate. I never said any culture is remarkably better, and as a american born Nigerian I stay with my opinion. I believe in Economic unity amongst African nations but forcing a ideology or mentality that you, the OP, and a few other Nigerians and other Africans believe with most African americans on Nigerians on a Nigerian forum that don't believe in that is wrong. 2 Likes |
Re: There Is A Race Riot Going On In America Right Now!! by EbolaParasite: 2:50pm On Aug 28, 2014 |
freeafrica365: You may be the daft one because you haven't done proper research. What led to the slaves being sold? Do you think they did it willingly? Did you miss the part where the slave takers decided it was easier to deal with the Kings and Chiefs than forcefully capture slaves? Let me educate you. Africans didn't have a choice. It was either sell your people or WE WILL TAKE THEM ANYWAY. You people never seize to amaze me. See them trying to put the blame on Africans. Last i checked, AFRICANS DID NOT BUILD A SHIP, TRAVEL TO AMERICA AND THEN SAID : HEY MR WHITE MAN, I HAVE SLAVES FOR SALE. 2 Likes |
Re: There Is A Race Riot Going On In America Right Now!! by EbolaParasite: 3:32pm On Aug 28, 2014 |
BWOH2D: How about you take a trip to west africa and we'll find out Sitting in the comfort of your "wherever" typing racist propaganda. Screaming black this black that. What have you done to help the Ebola problem in Africa............nothing..............so why should Africans be bothered about your plight? 3 Likes |
Re: There Is A Race Riot Going On In America Right Now!! by freeafrica365: 5:33pm On Aug 28, 2014 |
EbolaParasite: I have done my research. And the word is cease instead of seize. So when you ATTEMPT to try to educate me on the nuances of history, be impeccable in every way, at every turn. Nothing more shameful than a pompous arrogant WANT TO BE scholar that attempts to school someone with no command of perfection. 1. They were sold because we are and have always been tribal AF. 2. Africans DID have a choice, and there were written documents that stated EXPLICITLY that some tribal leaders regretted their actions. So yup. Be blameless if you choose. However, for those that ask why dont the Caribbeans or the AAs like us, it might just be ..that they REMEMBER that they were sold. We know our land, they dont. 1 Like |
Re: There Is A Race Riot Going On In America Right Now!! by freeafrica365: 5:42pm On Aug 28, 2014 |
anonymous6: It isnt as though they stopped struggling after Martin Luther King, each time they enact change we benefit. Ferguson has every thing to do with the civil rights movement. And you dont have a great understanding of race relations or the law, if you think Ferguson was not about a violation of civil rights. When you are not given the right to surrender that is a violation right there. You are not benefiting from some distant Martin Luther King, you and me are benefiting from their modern day civil rights activists, like the dream defenders and other orgs. Also, let me make this clear again: I dont care whether you agree with me or not. I think most of us are pompous ingrates. We are lazy. And we dont work hard for our own country. No. We have no problem invading other peoples countries, telling others how to behave according to OUR cultural biases..when we cant even get our OWN territories together. Any struggle that they have will impact us Africans as long as we are in their location. I still think that you are a detached ingrate. But that has nothing to do with you disagreeing with me, it is your attitude towards the subject matter. And further, if you think that African nations are a priority why are you here, as a Nigerian, like me? We talk a good game. But we dont even work hard to fix our own country. Then we come here to talk about how different we are than the other blacks. You are arrogant. I dont wish for you to change your mind. I am merely commenting from a Nigerian perspective who is ALSO in America. 1 Like |
Re: There Is A Race Riot Going On In America Right Now!! by EbolaParasite: 5:44pm On Aug 28, 2014 |
freeafrica365: Okay i goofed. Big effing deal. English is not my language so you can excuse yourself. It doesn't change the message though. The written documents you talk about were written by WHO? Exactly, the same WHITE SLAVE owners and that is what you choose to believe. My source is from family lineage passed down several decades. We don't rely on the white mans story. We know what happened. 1 Like |
Re: There Is A Race Riot Going On In America Right Now!! by freeafrica365: 5:56pm On Aug 28, 2014 |
EbolaParasite: Africans sold Africans for trinkets. http://www.theguardian.com/world/2009/nov/18/africans-apologise-slave-trade http://www.bbc.co.uk/worldservice/africa/features/storyofafrica/9chapter2.shtml http://originalpeople.org/king-west-african-country-benin-visits-relatives-alabamas-oldest-black-town/ Benin King apologized. Research my friend. There were letters written by our kings trying to get the slaves back. 1. The moors were sold, religious reasons. 2. Rival kings and queens were raided. Military reasons 3. To get liquor and more weapons, beads were given...research it. So, to me - you cant blame those that we sold to NOT have animosity. And you cant blame a people to NOT know about Africa. A people that had the world, we sold them for next to nothing. And you stated that your familys oral history makes you blameless, which would mean that the whites had stellar compasses and magically knew which group to raid...and which group to keep..it still doesnt discount the role of those MANY of africans that sold them. So when they are bitter or angry with me, I dont blame them. Nor do I believe that they should have fondness for a people at the most did nothing but leech (run to their countries) as opposed to restore or repair. If you think that they should think fondly of ppl that sold you, that is you. I certainly wouldnt. Im seeking to bridge a gap. I dont expect you to. 1 Like |
Re: There Is A Race Riot Going On In America Right Now!! by Nobody: 6:03pm On Aug 28, 2014 |
freeafrica365:How many slaves kings were entitled to in Africa? Shut it. The tens to the hundredth of million slaves on the voyages cannot be sold, you i d i o t! Try to make good use of your brain for once. |
Re: There Is A Race Riot Going On In America Right Now!! by freeafrica365: 6:07pm On Aug 28, 2014 |
all4naija: You spam the board. I cant take you seriously. The only i d i o t is you. The amount of ENTITLED kings doesnt do anything to counter my argument. In fact it doesnt shake the structure not even its limbs. You are a self entitled bigot. And you usually troll ghana, s. africa and any other black nation. Kindly stfu. My argument stated that AFRICANS sold AFRICANS - and this foff decides to ask me about the number of kings as though that question negates the primary truth: AFRICANS sold AFRICANS.. But somehow we are bewildered when they dont open their arms to some sort of reunion that we NEVER initiated. 1 Like |
Re: There Is A Race Riot Going On In America Right Now!! by Nobody: 6:12pm On Aug 28, 2014 |
freeafrica365:Please, answer my question. You are possibly clueless for the simple reason you couldn't provide a substantial evidence to counter what I deliberated in my previous post. Over 90% of slavery around the world has been known to be forced on people and it is no so much different from those of the past. You would agree with me virtually all the past slaves were stolen not sold. |
Re: There Is A Race Riot Going On In America Right Now!! by freeafrica365: 6:17pm On Aug 28, 2014 |
all4naija: Your desire to take me off my point by asking some factoid-like question proves absolutely not one thing. Answer my question: DID I SAY ANYTHING FALSE, you troll?! In regards to this fallacy that 90% of the world was enslaved..to the degree of the holocaust that was committed against STOLEN and SOLD AFRICANS is strictly and solely about semantics. Slavery was INDENTURED servitude - it would be the equivalent of working AT A JOB in the 90% of the world that you are talking about. Dont conflate social phenomena and social events to discount the tragic role that we played in our own demise. INDENTURED SERVITUDE was NOT the slavery and holocaust that I am talking about! Your, "but all people were slaves, dont get mad Africans" sounds very white by the way. Dont provide hyperboles, generalizations, source your arguments for future engagements with me, you white bigot! 2 Likes |
Re: There Is A Race Riot Going On In America Right Now!! by Nobody: 6:20pm On Aug 28, 2014 |
freeafrica365:You mentioned kings in your previous post, dude! Your convoluted statements are based on your skewed notion of what you were told without reasoning about the loopholes in them. The sheer numbers of slaves that died in the voyages and those who survived were testaments to the fact they were stolen through the barrel of guns and other means. Indeed, I don't know how you arrived at that conclusion that Africans sold millions of their own into force labor when both the able family members were seen to be among most slave ships. Are you suggesting Africans hate their kids and live them behind? That is not what history about Africa has told us through culture. This is a biased idea based on silliness. You are possibly looking for who to blame for your misfortunes. |
Re: There Is A Race Riot Going On In America Right Now!! by freeafrica365: 6:25pm On Aug 28, 2014 |
all4naija: I mentioned KINGS so that the person that I was debating can have a reference point. You came in with some factoid question that had absolutely no Relevance to my argument at all. As though a numerical statement NEGATED our role. And you act like our KINGS didnt have guns. How do you think they got some of their weaponry? They sold Africans. Do you think whites are super heroes, magically knowing about that part of Africa? What misfortune? I am not African American, so what is your next argument bigot? Please re-read my modified post. Source your sketchy theory. Please debunk my statement, written documents, so forth...that Africans selling Africans NEVER happened. 1 Like |
Re: There Is A Race Riot Going On In America Right Now!! by anonymous6(f): 6:32pm On Aug 28, 2014 |
freeafrica365: Ferguson had nothing to do with civil rights. Mike brown after stealing from a convenient store(which Wilson didn't stop him for) and later was walking in the middle of the road, and was complained about by other black American witnesses when Wilson got on the scene. Wilson was a trigger happy cop and mike brown feel for the trap by walking in the middle of the road and then resisting arrest which lead to Wilson taking it to another level. Witnesses, who most were black american also said mike brown wasn't entirely innocent even though Wilson wasn't entirely innocent either. This has nothing to do with the civil rights movement that made oprah and president Obama today. I was born and raised in America and get racism and discrimination which I experienced from both white Americans and black Americans. So don't preach anything to me about this case, I already said before trayvon Martin rights were not given cause of racial profiling of a trigger happy fool but not with mike brown based on what has been said by the media so far. When it comes to the other Nigerians being pompous ingrates, that's your opinion, I don't care(after all I never insulted african Americans on this thread on nairaland)and me being born and raised in this country I have a right to my opinion without being insulted and forced to your thinking(which is what your doing). I have every right to be in America, if you feel so strongly about this then maybe you should join the protesting in ferguson. I do help in my way, I have given money and goods through Nigerian charities that they send straight to the poor in Nigeria. One of them is black girls ignite Africa, I have seen the evidence I have done. So don't you dare preach to me again on what I should or should not do on a Nigerian forum. Think you need to preach to the Nigerians that act or tell black Americans they are better, I never said that. So take that topic to someone who cares or someone who actually said that. So keep your arrogant and rude comments to yourself. I'm only speaking from a Nigerian American who lives in United States of America 1 Like |
Re: There Is A Race Riot Going On In America Right Now!! by freeafrica365: 6:38pm On Aug 28, 2014 |
anonymous6: I dont think you have a right to be in America, as a Nigerian - you embarrass me - for you are a detached ingrate. I am honest. I am not rude. Mike Brown was walking down the street and executed, had he been white - he would not have been executed. And your entitlement to a space, etched out by the blood of black Americans is quite disgusting. Civil Rights is not some sterile or static movement, it is not just for history book leaders that you can gloat about i.e. Obama..it is for those, who are imperfect but deserve the same civil rights as their white counterparts. I dont need to march I donated to their tribute cd and their go fund site. And as you talk about Nigeria, why arent you there? Why are you here talking about bring back our girls? I will tell you why. You are here, with me, and the other Nigerians on the backs of African Americans...and when called to join or have compassion ..you talk about your love for Nigeria. How pathetic and cowardly. No offense. 1 Like |
Re: There Is A Race Riot Going On In America Right Now!! by anonymous6(f): 6:44pm On Aug 28, 2014 |
freeafrica365: I do think I have a right to be a American cause I was born in America whether you like it or not, just being honest. Yup we know blacks have it harder then whites in America with the police and that's why blacks should take extra care, like not getting into their trap by walking in the middle of the road and giving them a advantage to trap you just being honest I appreciate the civil rights struggle of Martin Luther king Cause if not for him I wouldn't be a nurse practitioner today. I was in nigeria a few months ago, thank you Again keep your opinions to yourself, and learn to agree to disagree. Your not moving me by making me feel wrong for my opinion, which I didn't do to you. If this was about trayvon Martin I would agree but in this case not so much. Also stop engaging in this topic with me cause it seems to me you are looking for someone to get into a debate with and I'm one that doesn't care for it 1 Like |
Re: There Is A Race Riot Going On In America Right Now!! by Nobody: 6:51pm On Aug 28, 2014 |
freeafrica365:You cannot comprehend my post yet you are willing to debate an issue as involving sensitive topic as slavery. Mind you, you posted some links to ascertain your views which I pointed out to you for not using your discretion to spot the loopholes in them. That is a big shame on your side. Oh, yeah. It is now a factoid-like question to ask a meaningful question as regarding the number of slaves involved in the illicit human trade(as in foreign land not the land of origin). What is so trivial in that question you couldn't provide answer to is still a challenge to me. Indeed, I think you are giving excuse to what you don't have answer for. I never said 90% of the world is enslaved, low-brain! I said slavery around the world originated as forced on the enslaved people. It is not a fallacy. I put that number up to explain the magnitude of forced labor. The definition of the word by itself explains it all and I am not surprised you couldn't figure that out. Smh... Your understanding of slavery is appalling to say the least. How on earth you defend forcing people against their will and chaining them up while beating them to work in farms, homes and other boring places is beyond me. The way you tried to use a 'working-place' notion to define slavery speaks volume of your poor understanding of the word. Your generalization is faulty and I would advise you do some research on black slavery and related subjects on past history. You are no-brainier! Servitude, whether indentured or forced is not what I am likely pointing out to you. I am pointing at your statement to prove what you mean in your statement by asking you a question. It is not a rhetoric question yet you ignore it and beat about the bush. That is the most discouraging thing about you views. Most of my statements don't require sources. They are based on reasoning. It's for you to know your onion and figure it out. While you are trying to affirmed you lack of ability to explain yourself here there hasn't be anything that so much required sources at this point in time. I am going to provide sources when necessary and I didn't do that because I haven't see that need in the argument so far. I am waiting for you answer still. |
Re: There Is A Race Riot Going On In America Right Now!! by freeafrica365: 6:52pm On Aug 28, 2014 |
anonymous6: You didnt magically get born in America. Your parents benefited from their struggle. Why arent you transforming Nigeria, living there..if you cant be bothered with the other blacks that are here with us? Why not fix glorious Nigeria? A better news source would be MSNBC instead of Fox News or CNN. Maam, Martin Luther Kings movement is still going on with modern leaders. And as a person that donated to bringback my girls, black Americans donated with me. I am not trying to move you. This is an open forum, I commented like I did elsewhere in this thread. Each time you speak publicly, you risk receiving an opinion that DOESNT agree with your position. I say: get a better grasp on civil rights. We arent exempt because we are Nigerian from being killed, no matter what we ideally believed. And even more, we should want to join with ALL our people. But good day. |
Re: There Is A Race Riot Going On In America Right Now!! by suyu: 7:04pm On Aug 28, 2014 |
This thread is still going on 1 Like |
Re: There Is A Race Riot Going On In America Right Now!! by Nobody: 7:15pm On Aug 28, 2014 |
freeafrica365:No reference point is exclusively needed in your post to defend your points than tried to exonerate the action of those who stole people into slavery. You purported a means to blame slavery on the KINGS yet couldn't provide an answer to 'factoid question' that seems to prove otherwise. How is my question not relevant to your argument? That is still something you need to prove. It is annoying and absolutely unacceptable in any reasonable discussion. I am not acting. I am telling you that guns were used by the slave masters to force people into slavery because there is no source pointing to African KINGS using guns on their subjects. Excepting you have to provide your different side to prove that wrong. Kings having guns possibly traded for pepper and animals materials, like skin, bone, ivory,etc. All you could figure out is that those guns were often more none traded for people. It means they probably have tenth to the hundredth of million guns for the slaves traded at their disposal. Bwahaha... Make good use of your brain, man. The superheroes in your post only makes your point very petty and prove your are shallow-minded in addressing such a sensitive issue as slavery. The weapons they come with are superior in the sense make them more of a superheroes. We can see that in today's technological advancement of the developed world. It makes them look supper-humans to Africans in their peasant lifestyle. I assumed you were African American looking at the way you present your views. Nevertheless, while I still stand by my point, there is nothing wrong in my assumption because of your position. Now that you have able to tell us about your person there is nothing to cry about in that my statement. The earlier you realized that the better for you to move on with your miserable life in calling me a bigot. |
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