Lordlexyy: At times you can't help but weep and pray silently for some tribalists in this country to be healed or redeemed from mediocrity or complacent. When you look at pictures like this of countries less resourcefully endowed than us, you begin to wonder the rationale behind our outburst. We all know China, Malaysia and even singapore or Brazil started yet, these countries are commanding respect every where in medicine, artechture, technology and what a few. But here, some kilometres of roads are enough to scream Gej till 2019 or eko ni baje o mantra despite the huge revenue accrued to our oil. We don't behave seriously. We have proven we are not tired of our suffering and smile hypocrisy as late Fela puts it. Excuses has become a way of life among certain people. Put the development here side by side with what is obtainable in other countries and you will see how much of a laughing stock we are. There is hope, but not until we drop this regionalism and ethnicity style of politics. Op, i duff my hat for you.

hold it there u racist,are u not the one that said the igbos aren't worthy of the deputy governors sit in lagos? deep down in you,you know the igbos deserves more playing role in the lagos polity since they are already in the economy but the level of racism in you won't allow you,yet you are here preaching like a true patriot. Now listen Nigeria will make it when other regions accept igbos as their own and stop hating them. so sorry poster never wanted to derail ur marvelous thread cuz I know they and he must reply.

TamzyTamudo: hold it there u racist,are u not the one that said the igbos aren't worthy of the deputy governors sit in Lagos? deep down in you,you know the igbos deserves more playing role in the lagos polity since they are already in the economy but the level of racism in you won't allow you,yet you are here preaching like a true patriot. Now listen Nigeria will make it when other regions accept igbos as their own and stop hating them. so sorry poster never wanted to derail ur marvelous thread cuz I know they and he must reply.

Tamudo, is obvious you have been hunting to discredit me for correcting your racist stance. To clear every doubt, I will appreciate it if you post any comment of mine where i condemned the appointment of an igbo man as the lagos state deputy governor. Until then, i will consider you a big liar who goes about peddling lies and sowing seeds of discord for cheap political gain. I have never for any reason voice an objection to that effect and to call me a racist, shows how kettle easily call pot black.

oduastates: This post makes no sense .
Some of you don't read beyond the cramming you do at school.
Go and read the first few chapters of the book " japan imperial conspiracy" to understand the mindset and philosophy of potential/aspiring super economic powers.
Comparing Nigeria to America is a joke .
Nigeria is approximately the size of California and they still have 49 other state.
The arrogance and confidence a typical American exudes is part of this mindset.
Lagos budget is smaller than the budget of NY fire service......

Nigeria is much bigger than you think it is, with much more resources than you think it has. Africa as a whole should be the commanding power of the world, and Nigeria should be the commanding force of Africa; it's time we start behaving like it. Our continent has been subconciously relegated as the last in the mindset of the world, and the effects are just damn silly sometimes. For example, below is Africa's true size, but for conveniece and due to he fact that the true shapes of a continent are difficult to project on a sphere, everyone accepts Mercator's distorted representation of the sizes of world power countries.

MOBJECTIVE: I DID THIS AS MY OWN EFFORT TO #SAY NO TO TRIBALISM


IF Nairaland can have one day,just one day, when everyone has it in their minds not to be tribal, i think that'll be awesome.


APOLOGIES

Forgive me for the irony though, as my post is quite condescending and tribal/discriminatory itself, but i simply wanted to point out that we all have our difficulties to face in our own regions, and we should start looking past being better than our neighbours, to being the best we can be. Nigeria, in her miserable sate has the largest economy in Africa, our potential surpasses that of a country like Japan and in the future, even the U.S.A; we need to start behaving like it.

sorry major correction,we don't think we're better than our brothers,we believe they are worse than us.and no that tribal free day will never come. Instead 1million ppl who dont have time for tribalism need to form a seriou party/corporation and solve our problems without expecting any thanks in return cos man is simply not rational

MOBJECTIVE:

Nigeria is much bigger than you think it is, with much more resources than you think it has. Africa as a whole should be the commanding power of the world, and Nigeria should be the commanding force of Africa; it's time we start behaving like it. Our continent has been subconciously relegated as the last in the mindset of the world, and the effects are just damn silly sometimes. For example, below is Africa's true size, but for conveniece and due to he fact that the true shapes of a continent are difficult to project on a sphere, everyone accepts Mercator's distorted representation of the sizes of world power countries.

Landmass or resource doesnt make a country great, it is the intellectual capacity of its citizen that does.

reedonne:
Landmass or resource doesnt make a country great, it is the intellectual capacity of its citizen that does.

reason why i'm saying: we should start behaving like the people who we aspire to be. what you mean by intellectual capacity is what some people call soft power, and what i understand in this context as the intangible sense of self worth, greatness, or unity a people or nation has which propels them to achieve extraordinary feats. I think Nigerians have this-we simply have to start behaving like people who do. for e.g there was no discussion in the recently concluded national conference about the things that make a great people: Language, culture, national ideals, human capital, greatness of time past..all the little things that make you picture a japanese: clean, upright, hardworking, dilligent or German: intelligent, perfectionist, and think, wow, these people are amazing. we need to choose those minor things we admire, and all collectively practise them.

mikolo80: sorry major correction,we don't think we're better than our brothers,we believe they are worse than us.and no that tribal free day will never come. Instead 1million ppl who dont have time for tribalism need to form a seriou party/corporation and solve our problems without expecting any thanks in return cos man is simply not rational

Alright, great opinion. however your man is not rational idea doesn't apply to just us. it applies to all men, but some races/tribes don't feel the need to separate themselves into groups of who's tribal/racist or who's not.

MOBJECTIVE:

Alright, great opinion. however your man is not rational idea doesn't apply to just us. it applies to all men, but some races/tribes don't feel the need to separate themselves into groups of who's tribal/racist or who's not.

everyman picks a team once resources become scarce.and thanks for the praise.hope i can try to implement once i get a job

Mr Goody 2 shoes.

We are not country lai lai. The oil is what is binding us together (false security) and the fear of the unknown.

I am a Yoruba man and that is where it should stop. Nigeria should have remained a confederation of the regional states until that Igbo coup and Decree 33 by that Igbo man changed everything.

Igbo's quest for deputy governor pf Lagos is sinister and is meant only to make them feel better (like have one up on Yorubas, simple)

I am a Yoruba man and I will fight to the last blood to protect my interest and ancestral land.

We are not one country.

ibedun: Mr Goody 2 shoes.

We are not country lai lai. The oil is what is binding us together (false security) and the fear of the unknown.

I am a Yoruba man and that is where it should stop. Nigeria should have remained a confederation of the regional states until that Igbo coup and Decree 33 by that Igbo man changed everything.

Igbo's quest for deputy governor pf Lagos is sinister and is meant only to make them feel better (like have one up on Yorubas, simple)

I am a Yoruba man and I will fight to the last blood to protect my interest and ancestral land.

We are not one country.

Hmmm..the regional stucture would have imploded eventually. Nigeria has three major tribes which attempt to lord over everyone else...everytime. the oppressed tribes in the southwest would have clamoured for thier own autonomy, same in the south east, and north. I take the clamour for these new 19 states as confirmation of this. so try to accept that when the military attempted to strip us of our tribal mindsets, and prevent further secessions by creating 36 states, they did what is best for the country.

op, you hate yourself o, now who will like you now, that you hate yourself so?

OP I am quiet happy to see someone with these views. It's a sad commentary about Africa that decades after acquiring independence we are still wrapped up in tribal bigotry and unhealthy competition. This is not just a Nigerian thing, it is a reflection of Africa as a whole. If you visit other African forum, this same type of bigotry is prevalent with no single iota of objectivity in analysis. I come to realise it's not gonna end anytime soon. But let's keep working on it and hoping we see some progress soon. With time and enlightment changes would occur naturally. I for one do not comment on tribal threads as a matter of principles. I post informations that boost unity and showed progress no matter which part of the country it's from. If Jonathan does something right I praise him, if he gets it wrong I criticise ferociously having realise there is not much ideological difference between the two dominant parties. I support candidates based on their track record not partisan support. Its well with Nigeria, we shall rise again!

Eldavido1: OP I am quiet happy to see someone with these views. It's a sad commentary about Africa that decades after acquiring independence we are still wrapped up in tribal bigotry and unhealthy competition. This is not just a Nigerian thing, it is a reflection of Africa as a whole. If you visit other African forum, this same type of bigotry is prevalent with no single iota of objectivity in analysis. I come to realise it's not gonna end anytime soon. But let's keep working on it and hoping we see some progress soon. With time and enlightment changes would occur naturally. I for one do not comment on tribal threads as a matter of principles. I post informations that boost unity and showed progress no matter which part of the country it's from. If Jonathan does something right I praise him, if he gets it wrong I criticise ferociously having realise there is not much ideological difference between the two dominant parties. I support candidates based on their track record not partisan support. Its well with Nigeria, we shall rise again!

MOBJECTIVE:

reason why i'm saying: we should start behaving like the people who we aspire to be. what you mean by intellectual capacity is what some people call soft power, and what i understand in this context as the intangible sense of self worth, greatness, or unity a people or nation has which propels them to achieve extraordinary feats. I think Nigerians have this-we simply have to start behaving like people who do. for e.g there was no discussion in the recently concluded national conference about the things that make a great people: Language, culture, national ideals, human capital, greatness of time past..all the little things that make you picture a japanese: clean, upright, hardworking, dilligent or German: intelligent, perfectionist, and think, wow, these people are amazing. we need to choose those minor things we admire, and all collectively practise them.

We are yet to have an authoritative "state", so we cant talk about nation building or national identity.
We can only progress only when we have a state that is more influencial in the whole country than any other organization. An institution that will nutralize Afenifere, Ohaneze, NEF and other non-state institution that are very influential.
Currently, the Nigeria state goverment and federal govt are yet to posses what a powerful state posses. When the state have enough power and have its own code of conduct and ethics, it can then force a national identity on the people.

MOBJECTIVE:

Hmmm..the regional stucture would have imploded eventually. Nigeria has three major tribes which attempt to lord over everyone else...everytime. the oppressed tribes in the southwest would have clamoured for thier own autonomy, same in the south east, and north. I take the clamour for these new 19 states as confirmation of this. so try to accept that when the military attempted to strip us of our tribal mindsets, and prevent further secessions by creating 36 states, they did what is best for the country.

So have they achieved what they wish to achieve?. I dont think so.
I believe that our existence as a state should be base on the support of our different ethnic groups.
If our 2nd tier of goverment is structured among ethnic groups and ethnic unions, we wont have some people that call themself ohaneze,afenifere etc when we have a legitimate goverment with a premier or governor. However a 3 or 6 regional state is not a good system.

The problem with Nigeria is fundamental, until d people of the ethnic nationalities via a referendum decide to exist in d same country with others and decide the kind of constitution and political structure to guide them, Nigeria won't make any significant process

reedonne:
We are yet to have an authoritative "state", so we cant talk about nation building or national identity.
We can only progress only when we have a state that is more influencial in the whole country than any other organization. An institution that will nutralize Afenifere, Ohaneze, NEF and other non-state institution that are very influential.
Currently, the Nigeria state goverment and federal govt are yet to posses what a powerful state posses. When the state have enough power and have its own code of conduct and ethics, it can then force a national identity on the people.

you know what. i don't think you have to wait for your government to become powerful enough, before you start behaving like the citizen of a country which has the potential to become a major world power. what i think is, if the people behave like it, then the government will reflect it, because the people will choose leaders who share their ideals.

reedonne:
So have they achieved what they wish to achieve?. I dont think so.
I believe that our existence as a state should be base on the support of our different ethnic groups.
If our 2nd tier of goverment is structured among ethnic groups and ethnic unions, we wont have some people that call themself ohaneze,afenifere etc when we have a legitimate goverment with a premier or governor. However a 3 or 6 regional state is not a good system.

what you've just said, "structured among ethnic groups,'' is what this state creation is trying to achieve: states for the minority ethnic nationalities.

MOBJECTIVE:

you know what. i don't think you have to wait for your government to become powerful enough, before you start behaving like the citizen of a country which has the potential to become a major world power. what i think is, if the people behave like it, then the government will reflect it, because the people will choose leaders who share their ideals.

Nigerians are already behaving like a citizen of a great country but that hasnt give us anything. You can check how Nigerians speak to ghanaian and south africans here. But what have we got from that? Another form of tribalism I guess.

MOBJECTIVE:

you know what. i don't think you have to wait for your government to become powerful enough, before you start behaving like the citizen of a country which has the potential to become a major world power. what i think is, if the people behave like it, then the government will reflect it, because the people will choose leaders who share their ideals.

National pride is very important to a country but it isnt enough.
What I meant by intellectual capacity is what the people are capable of doing, eg medicine, engineering etc.
When we have good education and good intelect for research, then national pride will force us to spend all the resource to proof to the whole world that we are the best.

MOBJECTIVE:

what you've just said, "structured among ethnic groups,'' is what this state creation is trying to achieve: states for the minority ethnic nationalities.

And what did they gain from dividing the three major ethnic.

I can't believe this thread never made the front page.

Sometimes I wonder how coutries like japan even without a single national resource was able to be a global power and Nigeria with its numerous resources still wallowing in poverty.#irony