malvisguy212: in the old testament, when the God want to reach out to the people it's through his prophet and they start like this"the word of God came to me" what dos this mean? When adam sin, man lost communication with God,but after man ask for forgiveness, the only way God would reach out to man it is by his prophet,but the people would not listen to his prophet, some they killed others they reject,God decided to take the realm of the flash,and reconcile man back to himself,now, wither man chose to be ignorance of not,the scripture has been fulfilled,you have a choice to believe or not to believe.

the jews reject christ because they
thought the messiah will win war and
deliver the kingdom to isreal.
Acts1:6. Then they gathered around him
and asked him, “Lord, are you at this time
going to restore the kingdom to Israel?” 7 He said to them: “It is not for you to
know the times or dates the Father has
set by his own authority. 8 But you will
receive power when the Holy Spirit
comes on you; and you will be my
witnesses in Jerusalem, and in all Judea and Samaria, and to the ends of the
earth.”


if you want to know the more about the deep things of God,GO AND STUDY ALL THE PARABLE OF JESUS CHRIST WITH A TEACHABLE SPIRIT.

You don't know your Bible.

I don't blame you, you only follow what pastor says and don't use ur brain.

Ur God revealed himself in person either by voice or in physical appearance or signs to Jews so many times
Eg. Exodus 20. Numbers 12

malvisguy212: in the old testament, when the God want to reach out to the people it's through his prophet and they start like this"the word of God came to me" what dos this mean? When adam sin, man lost communication with God,but after man ask for forgiveness, the only way God would reach out to man it is by his prophet,but the people would not listen to his prophet, some they killed others they reject,God decided to take the realm of the flash,and reconcile man back to himself,now, wither man chose to be ignorance of not,the scripture has been fulfilled,you have a choice to believe or not to believe

The mediation through prophets business began after a national revelation. Yahweh spoke to the entire country of Israel personally at mount Sinai. Here is what Moses says in Deuteronomy 5:


2 The Lord our God made a covenant with us in Horeb.

3 The Lord made not this covenant with our fathers, but with us, even us, who are all of us here alive this day.

4 The Lord talked with you face to face in the mount out of the midst of the fire,

Yahweh spoke with the Jews face to face. It was then that he instructed them to obey his words or whatever. By asking the Jews to accept Jesus, you're requesting that they do what Yahweh explicitly forbids.

Weah96:

The mediation through prophets business began after a national revelation. Yahweh spoke to the entire country of Israel personally at mount Sinai. Here is what Moses says in Deuteronomy 5:


2 The Lord our God made a covenant with us in Horeb.

3 The Lord made not this covenant with our fathers, but with us, even us, who are all of us here alive this day.

4 The Lord talked with you face to face in the mount out of the midst of the fire,

Yahweh spoke with the Jews face to face. It was then that he instructed them to obey his words or whatever. By asking the Jews to accept Jesus, you're requesting that they do what Yahweh explicitly forbids.

macof and weah96.
It was because God always spoke to moses that lead to aaron and miriam rebelling against moses. number12: 2 “Has the Lord spoken only through Moses?”
they asked. “Hasn’t he also spoken
through us?” And the Lord heard this..

Number 16. The israelites even doubt moses was tellin lies because they complain why God always talk to moses and not them.

Macof. I have called the name of jesus and he answer me, i'v heard many account of this testimony.

briantex: before you create a topic,try reading and understanding the bible

The topic is a question, so don't be so defensive. Are you here to contribute or wage a cyber war on behalf of the almighty? As usual.

Billyonaire: Religion is for mentally incompetent complacent nincompoops that search for buffers and miracles when and where there is none. How is Ebola doing in your area ? Has your Gods healed his people yet ?

I couldn't have said it better brother.

The saddest thing is they gleefully advertise and market this gross mental incompetency to future generation of Nigerians as the standard.
This is what really spells doom for the future of the black race.

briantex: before you create a topic,try reading and understanding the bible

Tell me, who has ever read and understood the bible?

The fact that after nearly 2000yrs, and for most of your life, you have different sects with different priests and pastors trying to tell you what it all means should be proof enough that no one has yet to understand it.

malvisguy212:
muhammad the holy spirit? Do you know the meaning of holy spirit? A blameless spirit, somtin that will never and can never sin. We all know muhammad is a sinner, then how can he be the holy spirit?


quran29:27.Sahih International
And We gave to Him Isaac and
Jacob and
placed in his descendants
PROPHETHOOD
and scripture. And We gave him his reward in this world, and indeed,
he is in
the Hereafter among the righteous.
THIS VERSE IN THE QURAN MEAN
MUHAMMAD IS A FALSE PROPHET, HE
WAS NOT FROM THE DESCENDANT OF ISAAC AND JACOB.

i think you need to read full Quran .

Chapter 9:128
Surely, a Messenger has come unto you from among yourselves; grievous to him is that you should fall into trouble; he is ardently desirous of your welfare; and to the believers he is compassionate, merciful.


Chapter 21:108
And We have sent thee not but as a mercy for all peoples.


Chapter 33:22
Verily you have in the Prophet of Allah an excellent model, for him who fears Allah and the Last Day and who remembers Allah much.


Chapter 33:41
Muhammad is not the father of any of your men, but he is the Messenger of ALLAH, and the seal of the Prophets and ALLAH has full knowledge of all things.
Chapter 33:46
O Prophet, truly We have sent thee as a Witness, and a Bearer of glad tidings, and a Warner,


Chapter 33:47
And as a Summoner unto Allah by his command, and as a Lamp that gives bright light.


Chapter 33:57
Allah and His angels send blessings on the Prophet. O ye who believe! you also should invoke blessings on him and salute him with the salutation of peace.


Chapter 48:29
He it is Who has sent His Messenger, with guidance and the Religion of truth, that He may make it prevail over all other religions. And sufficient is Allah as a Witness.
Chapter 68:05
And thou dost, surely, possess sublime moral excellences.

malvisguy212:
muhammad the holy spirit? Do you know the meaning of holy spirit? A blameless spirit, somtin that will never and can never sin. We all know muhammad is a sinner, then how can he be the holy spirit?


quran29:27.Sahih International
And We gave to Him Isaac and
Jacob and
placed in his descendants
PROPHETHOOD
and scripture. And We gave him his reward in this world, and indeed,
he is in
the Hereafter among the righteous.
THIS VERSE IN THE QURAN MEAN
MUHAMMAD IS A FALSE PROPHET, HE
WAS NOT FROM THE DESCENDANT OF ISAAC AND JACOB.

hey bro i think you need to read full Quran .


Holy Quran 2:136
"Say, [O believers], "We have believed in Allah and what has been revealed to us and what has been revealed to Abraham and Ishmael and Isaac and Jacob and the Descendants and what was given to Moses and Jesus and what was given to the prophets from their Lord. We make no distinction between any of them, and we are Muslims [in submission] to Him."

Holy Quran 3:84
Say, "We have believed in Allah and in what was revealed to us and what was revealed to Abraham, Ishmael, Isaac, Jacob, and the Descendants, and in what was given to Moses and Jesus and to the prophets from their Lord. We make no distinction between any of them, and we are Muslims [submitting] to Him."

Holy Quran 4:163
"Indeed, We have revealed to you, [O Muhammad], as We revealed to Noah and the prophets after him. And we revealed to Abraham, Ishmael, Isaac, Jacob, the Descendants, Jesus, Job, Jonah, Aaron, and Solomon, and to David We gave the book [of Psalms]."

Holy 6:84-86
"And We gave to Abraham, Isaac and Jacob - all [of them] We guided. And Noah, We guided before; and among his descendants, David and Solomon and Job and Joseph and Moses and Aaron. Thus do We reward the doers of good.And Zechariah and John and Jesus and Elias - and all were of the righteous.And Ishmael and Elisha and Jonah and Lot - and all [of them] We preferred over the worlds."




Chapter 9:128
Surely, a Messenger has come unto you from among yourselves; grievous to him is that you should fall into trouble; he is ardently desirous of your welfare; and to the believers he is compassionate, merciful.


Chapter 21:108
And We have sent thee not but as a mercy for all peoples.


Chapter 33:22
Verily you have in the Prophet of Allah an excellent model, for him who fears Allah and the Last Day and who remembers Allah much.


Chapter 33:41
Muhammad is not the father of any of your men, but he is the Messenger of ALLAH, and the seal of the Prophets and ALLAH has full knowledge of all things.
Chapter 33:46
O Prophet, truly We have sent thee as a Witness, and a Bearer of glad tidings, and a Warner,


Chapter 33:47
And as a Summoner unto Allah by his command, and as a Lamp that gives bright light.


Chapter 33:57
Allah and His angels send blessings on the Prophet. O ye who believe! you also should invoke blessings on him and salute him with the salutation of peace.


Chapter 48:29
He it is Who has sent His Messenger, with guidance and the Religion of truth, that He may make it prevail over all other religions. And sufficient is Allah as a Witness.
Chapter 68:05
And thou dost, surely, possess sublime moral excellences.

getgame:


hey bro i think you need to read full Quran .


Holy Quran 2:136
"Say, [O believers], "We have believed in Allah and what has been revealed to us and what has been revealed to Abraham and Ishmael and Isaac and Jacob and the Descendants and what was given to Moses and Jesus and what was given to the prophets from their Lord. We make no distinction between any of them, and we are Muslims [in submission] to Him."

Holy Quran 3:84
Say, "We have believed in Allah and in what was revealed to us and what was revealed to Abraham, Ishmael, Isaac, Jacob, and the Descendants, and in what was given to Moses and Jesus and to the prophets from their Lord. We make no distinction between any of them, and we are Muslims [submitting] to Him."

Holy Quran 4:163
"Indeed, We have revealed to you, [O Muhammad], as We revealed to Noah and the prophets after him. And we revealed to Abraham, Ishmael, Isaac, Jacob, the Descendants, Jesus, Job, Jonah, Aaron, and Solomon, and to David We gave the book [of Psalms]."

Holy 6:84-86
"And We gave to Abraham, Isaac and Jacob - all [of them] We guided. And Noah, We guided before; and among his descendants, David and Solomon and Job and Joseph and Moses and Aaron. Thus do We reward the doers of good.And Zechariah and John and Jesus and Elias - and all were of the righteous.And Ishmael and Elisha and Jonah and Lot - and all [of them] We preferred over the worlds."




Chapter 9:128
Surely, a Messenger has come unto you from among yourselves; grievous to him is that you should fall into trouble; he is ardently desirous of your welfare; and to the believers he is compassionate, merciful.


Chapter 21:108
And We have sent thee not but as a mercy for all peoples.


Chapter 33:22
Verily you have in the Prophet of Allah an excellent model, for him who fears Allah and the Last Day and who remembers Allah much.


Chapter 33:41
Muhammad is not the father of any of your men, but he is the Messenger of ALLAH, and the seal of the Prophets and ALLAH has full knowledge of all things.
Chapter 33:46
O Prophet, truly We have sent thee as a Witness, and a Bearer of glad tidings, and a Warner,


Chapter 33:47
And as a Summoner unto Allah by his command, and as a Lamp that gives bright light.


Chapter 33:57
Allah and His angels send blessings on the Prophet. O ye who believe! you also should invoke blessings on him and salute him with the salutation of peace.


Chapter 48:29
He it is Who has sent His Messenger, with guidance and the Religion of truth, that He may make it prevail over all other religions. And sufficient is Allah as a Witness.
Chapter 68:05
And thou dost, surely, possess sublime moral excellences.

God covenant of prophethood cannot be on both brothers,God choses one and leave the other,both brothers cannot have the same blessing,when issac bless jacob, esau ask for his own blessing but isaac say all the blessing has been giving to jacob, moreover the verse you quote did not talk about prophethood, it talk about what has been reveal to them.

malvisguy212:
muhammad the holy spirit? Do you know the meaning of holy spirit? A blameless spirit, somtin that will never and can never sin. We all know muhammad is a sinner, then how can he be the holy spirit?


quran29:27.Sahih International
And We gave to Him Isaac and
Jacob and
placed in his descendants
PROPHETHOOD
and scripture. And We gave him his reward in this world, and indeed,
he is in
the Hereafter among the righteous.
THIS VERSE IN THE QURAN MEAN
MUHAMMAD IS A FALSE PROPHET, HE
WAS NOT FROM THE DESCENDANT OF ISAAC AND JACOB.

says who,the Prophet(SAW) never commited a single sin,everything he did is law.

btw, getgame, i don't get something right here, i thought d quran says and muslim believes ALLAH is one all this quranic texts u're just throwing everywhere uses the terms- "WE DID THIS, WE DID THAT", which people are they refering? isn't it suppose to be "I", since your god is only one ? oya explain abeg.. like u know ur religion well.

malvisguy212:
the jews reject christ because they thought the messiah will win war and deliver the kingdom to isreal.
Acts1:6. Then they gathered around him and asked him, “Lord, are you at this time
going to restore the kingdom to Israel?” 7 He said to them: “It is not for you to know the times or dates the Father has
set by his own authority. 8 But you will receive power when the Holy Spirit
comes on you; and you will be my
witnesses in Jerusalem, and in all Judea
and Samaria, and to the ends of the
earth.”

that is not even one of the major reasons why the jews reject Jesus(Pbuh).christain doctrines is the antithesis of judaism,and most jews rightfully see christains as blashphemous pagans.things like a son of God,God becoming man are the most horrible things a jew hears.Yes,Jesus(PBUH) according to islam is the jewish messiah but you will be amazed how the old testament has been mistranslated,twisted and completely taken out of its context to conform to christain doctrines like jesus being divine and crucifixion.

tartar9:
says who,the Prophet(SAW) never commited a single sin,everything he did is law.

are you new to the quran?why do you ask for forgivness? Is it not when you sin then you will ask for forgivness?

The Quran identifies Muhammad as a sinner: 40:55, 48:2, and 47:19: 40:55 Therefore have patience; God’s promise is surely true. Implore
forgiveness for your sins, and celebrate the praise of your Lord evening
and morning. 48:2 ... so that God may forgive you your past and future sins, and
perfect His goodness to you; ...

Below is the Quran 47:19 in five English translations, (NOTE:
Muhammad is asking for forgiveness for both himself and hisfollowers). "Know that there is no deity but God. Implore Him to forgive your sins
and to forgive the true believers, men and women. God knows your
busy haunts and resting places." Dawood [3]
"So know (O Muhammad) that there is no God save Allah, and ask
forgiveness for thy sin and for believing men and believing women.
Allah knoweth (both) your place of turmoil and your place of rest."
Pickthall [4] "
Know thou therefore that there is no god but God, and ask
forgiveness for thy sin, and for the believers, men and women. God
knows your going to and fro, and your lodging." Arberry [5]
"Know, then, that there is no god but God; and ask pardon for thy sin,
and for believers, both men and women. God knows your busy
movements and your final resting places." Rodwell [6]
"Know therefore that there is no god but Allah and ask forgiveness for
the fault and for the men and women who believe: for Allah knows
how ye move about and how ye dwell in your homes." Ali [7]

malvisguy212:
the jews reject christ because they thought the messiah will win war and deliver the kingdom to isreal.
Acts1:6. Then they gathered around him and asked him, “Lord, are you at this time
going to restore the kingdom to Israel?” 7 He said to them: “It is not for you to know the times or dates the Father has
set by his own authority. 8 But you will receive power when the Holy Spirit
comes on you; and you will be my
witnesses in Jerusalem, and in all Judea
and Samaria, and to the ends of the
earth.”

that is not even one of the major reasons why the jews reject Jesus(Pbuh).christain doctrines is the antithesis of judaism,and most jews rightfully see christains as blashphemous pagans.things like a son of God,God becoming man are the most horrible things a jew hears.Yes,Jesus(PBUH) according to islam is the jewish messiah but you will be amazed how the old testament has been mistranslated,twisted and completely taken out of its context to conform to christain doctrines like jesus being divine and crucifixion.just like the Holy Quran said "The Jews say: "The
Christians have
nothing firm to stand
upon;" And the
Christians say: "The
Jews have nothing
firm to stand upon."
Yet they both read the
(same) Book. Like the
words they say they
do not know what
they say; But Allah will
judge between them
in their dispute on the
Day of Judgment.(Quran2:113)

tartar9:
that is not even one of the major reasons why the jews reject Jesus(Pbuh).christain doctrines is the antithesis of judaism,and most jews rightfully see christains as blashphemous pagans.things like a son of God,God becoming man are the most horrible things a jew hears.Yes,Jesus(PBUH) according to islam is the jewish messiah but you will be amazed how the old testament has been mistranslated,twisted and completely taken out of its context to conform to christain doctrines like jesus being divine and crucifixion.just like the Holy Quran said "The Jews say: "The
Christians have
nothing firm to stand
upon;" And the
Christians say: "The
Jews have nothing
firm to stand upon."
Yet they both read the
(same) Book. Like the
words they say they
do not know what
they say; But Allah will
judge between them
in their dispute on the
Day of Judgment.(Quran2:113)

the jew has been disobeying God since the days of abraham and the prophet,whhen they killed the prophet ,why dint you mention it?isaiah say the messaiah will be king of kings, in those day all the jewish kings fought war and win battle, so they expect the messaih to keep the tradition of fighting war, but when jesus came, he preach the gospel and he was crucify by the jew, do you still expect them to believe in him?

This is the problem with you muslims,when you interpret the word of God with your own knowlegd you will never understand,bible say the wisdom of God which passes all understanding shall abide in you, so pray for God wisdom to dwell in you and then you can interpret they word of God. Thank you.

malvisguy212:
the jew has been disobeying God since the days of abraham and the prophet,whhen they killed the prophet ,why dint you mention it?isaiah say the messaiah will be king of kings, in those day all the jewish kings fought war and win battle, so they expect the messaih to keep the tradition of fighting war, but when jesus came, he preach the gospel and he was crucify by the jew, do you still expect them to believe in him?

This is the problem with you muslims,when you interpret the word of God with your own knowlegd you will never understand,bible say the wisdom of God which passes all understanding shall abide in you, so pray for God wisdom to dwell in you and then you can interpret they word of God. Thank you.

so you saying the christains have the special ability from God to interprete the entire bible including the jewish one.not even the jews can interprete theirs.the Quran also talked about the disobedience of the jews like how they killed his prophets and their rejection of their messiah(PBUH).that was with the rejection of Jesus,i was talking of why jews reject christainity doctrines.

Who is greater Jesus OR God ?? If i want to describe that two people are equal what kind of illustration will i use ... Twins !! But did Jesus used twins to describe his relationship with God ? No , as a wise teacher he uses father-son relationship to describe their relationship !!! And we all know Father is greater than Son in the family !!! U still dont bliv, here is your answer by Jesus himself "Father is GREATER than I " John 14:28 , he said it all

tartar9:
so you saying the christains have the special ability from God to interprete the entire bible including the jewish one.not even the jews can interprete theirs.the Quran also talked about the disobedience of the jews like how they killed his prophets and their rejection of their messiah(PBUH).that was with the rejection of Jesus,i was talking of why jews reject christainity doctrines.

the bible is a sealed book to the learn and unlearned until you study it with a teachable spirit,read the story of the ethiopian eunuch and philip, the man was an educated and well respected man but he was reading the bible without understanding it meaning until the spirit of truth(holy spirit) ask philip to draw close to him and interpret the bible to him.


You mention the name of muhammad and add (pbuh) on his name, why will you pray for peace upon someone who is said to be in heaven in the prescence of God? Between me and him, who is experence everlasting peace? Is he not the one that soppose to interceed for my peace because he seat close to God?
Compere to what jesus said"my peace i give unto you, not as the world giveth"

the more you type the more you see how muhammad misinterpret the bible and called his book quran, as a matter of fact it is his wife a business woman that convince him, what he saw was an angel,there are many things muslims dont understand about God,do you realy think God will wait for 500 years before he will send a prophet to contradict his plans to mankind? What happen to those people that died before muhammad message?The true God will not wait that long, abraham died immediatly issac continue isaac died jacob take over, jacob died joseph take over that how it continue,elijah was even alive when elisha take over, but it only the turn of muhammad God will wait for sooo long? This how the devil want to lead mankind to hell,i pray God have mercy on you guys.

CANTICLES:
Who is greater Jesus OR God ?? If i want to describe that two people are equal what kind of illustration will i use ... Twins !! But did Jesus used twins to describe his relationship with God ? No , as a wise teacher he uses father-son relationship to describe their relationship !!! And we all know Father is greater than Son in the family !!! U still dont bliv, here is your answer by Jesus himself "Father is GREATER than I " John 14:28 , he said it all

God is greater than his Word(jesus) , just as you are the one that can control your word that is it, God is the one that decided to speak jesus.

Hebrews 11:3King James Version (KJV) 3 Through faith we understand that the worlds were framed by the word of God, so that things which are seen were not made of things
which do appear.
In other word:God speak his word(jesus) and the world came to be.

this like asking, who is greater. me or me