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Re: The Promise Of Yahweh To Ishmael by kuss: 11:26am On Aug 30, 2014 |
Muslim are so dumb they don't understand spiritual things anywhere they see mysteries in the bible because they don't understand it they call it error how on earth can they say deu 4:6-8 is referring to Arab nations when verse one clearly shows it is referring to the nation of Israel even atheists will tell you this verse is referring to Israel the way some people think it's obvious they don't think |
Re: The Promise Of Yahweh To Ishmael by kuss: 11:31am On Aug 30, 2014 |
malvisguy212: quran29:27.Sahih Internationali thing with this we can close this thread now anytime muslim try to authenticate Islam with the bible they always fall flat on their face s |
Re: The Promise Of Yahweh To Ishmael by Rilwayne001: 12:17pm On Aug 30, 2014 |
Seems you do not comprehend the simple english here, therefore i will not further waste my time explaning this line to you after now malvisguy212: 7 For what great nation has a god as near to them as the LORD our God is near to us whenever we call on him? A nation is not just great because of riches or any other thing, if not God will be nearer to them whenever they call upon him, and on this day the Ismael Nation is near to God as God is also nearer to them. It is a promise that has been fulfiled. They are: 1) Ishmael is BLESSED (which include Riches amd other wordly things, The likes of Europe, and America are blessed Nation) Therefore a Blessed Nation is distinctly different from a Great Nation in the sight of God. 2) He will be FERTILE. 3) His nation will multiply 4) AND will be made into a GREAT NATION. ( a great Nation is a Nation that keeps God commadment which brings them closer to God and God come closer to them) malvisguy212: The way you guys read the bible is wrong, first you must understand the context, example, God IS great, but another verse say samson is great, those that mean samson can challenge God? No,the context in which the book refer "God IS great" is talkin about a supreme bein, but the context in which bible say samson is great is talkin about the physical strength.THE CONTEXT IN WHICH GOD SAY THE ISREAL IS A GREAT NATION WAS SPIRITUALY, GOD FAVOUR THEM. BUT THE CONTEXT IN WHICH GOD MAKE THE ARAB A GREAT NATION WAS ABOUT RICHES.if it spiritual, when america invade the arab, those that mean God is weak to protect the arab spiritualy? What is the the different between been a Great Nation and been a Blessed Nation 2 Likes |
Re: The Promise Of Yahweh To Ishmael by Rilwayne001: 12:18pm On Aug 30, 2014 |
malvisguy212: quran29:27.Sahih International Do you believe in the Quran? 1 Like |
Re: The Promise Of Yahweh To Ishmael by malvisguy212: 1:52pm On Aug 30, 2014 |
Rilwayne001:I believe muhammad write the quran and made a massive mistake because there is know way God will make this type of mistake, am I right? |
Re: The Promise Of Yahweh To Ishmael by malvisguy212: 2:03pm On Aug 30, 2014 |
Rilwayne001:what is the meaning of this?? you think you are chating with a minor? All this twisting of bible verses. |
Re: The Promise Of Yahweh To Ishmael by Rilwayne001: 2:41pm On Aug 30, 2014 |
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Re: The Promise Of Yahweh To Ishmael by malvisguy212: 2:49pm On Aug 30, 2014 |
Rilwayne001: My signature is now effectivequran27:29 was a mistake by muhammad not allah right? |
Re: The Promise Of Yahweh To Ishmael by Empiree: 5:18pm On Aug 30, 2014 |
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Re: The Promise Of Yahweh To Ishmael by truthman2012(m): 5:52pm On Aug 30, 2014 |
Rilwayne001: I observe you have kept dodging Gen. 17:19-21 and Quran 29:27. It shows you have seen the truth. Why do you choose to deceive yourself. Both verses say God could not have sent Muhammad because he was not from the lineage of God's covenant for prophethood. Since it was not God who sent Muhammad because He could not break His covenant, who sent him? Your guess is as good as mine. First of all, it is important to know that if the "Bibles" of today, with all their versions and differences in the quantity of their "books" and "gospels", were in fact the Original Holy Word of GOD Almighty, then there would be no need for the Quran. [/b]But since they are corrupt, then we obviously can't consider them as GOD Almighty's Holy and Divine Words. Quran is not a replacement of the Bible, they are not from the same God. Allah is not the God of the Jews and Christians. ''Fight against such of [b]those who have been given the Scripture as BELIEVE NOT IN Allah nor the Last Day.......(Quran 9:29). This quranic verse shows that the Jews and Christians did not believe in Allah but Yahweh. Again the Quran further says: Say: O disbelievers (This is talking about "those who have been given the Scripture, i.e Jews and Christians who didn't believe Allah) I worship not that which ye worship Nor worship ye that which I worship And I shall not worship that which ye worship Quran 109:1-4 Allah clearly told Muhammad and muslims that what they worship is not the God of the Jews and Christians. Therefore quran cannot be a replacement of the Bible. There existed many different Bibles during the time of the Roman Emperor, Constantine, which were widely believed in by different Christian sects in the year 312. In other words,during the first 3 centuries of "Christianity" (300 years), many different canons with 100s of books/gospels combined existed! All these are fallacies framed by the enemies of Christianity. Matthew 21:45: "Therefore say I unto you, the kingdom of God shall be taken from you, and given to a NATION bringing forth the fruits thereof. You muslim guys misinterpret the bible to suit yourselves. Your quote is wrong. Mathew 21:45 does not say so. I want you to research properly and give the correct quote before I answer you. 3 Likes |
Re: The Promise Of Yahweh To Ishmael by malvisguy212: 6:17pm On Aug 30, 2014 |
truthman2012:thank you. Quran 29:27 was so clear. 1 Like |
Re: The Promise Of Yahweh To Ishmael by merieam16(f): 7:39pm On Aug 30, 2014 |
kuss: THIS IS THE BIBLE PROPHECY CONVENING ISHMAELchai...dis curse dey powerful o |
Re: The Promise Of Yahweh To Ishmael by merieam16(f): 7:41pm On Aug 30, 2014 |
truthman2012: You believe the Bible, but only a part that favour you, the remaining is corrupt.so as ur thoughts nd writings are corrupt |
Re: The Promise Of Yahweh To Ishmael by merieam16(f): 7:57pm On Aug 30, 2014 |
malvisguy212: I believe muhammad write the quran and made a massive mistake because there is know way God will make this type of mistake, am I right?ah! Don't just tell me ure doubtin 4 religion |
Re: The Promise Of Yahweh To Ishmael by merieam16(f): 8:01pm On Aug 30, 2014 |
malvisguy212: I believe muhammad write the quran and made a massive mistake because there is know way God will make this type of mistake, am I right?ah! Don't just tell me ure doubtin ur religion |
Re: The Promise Of Yahweh To Ishmael by malvisguy212: 8:14pm On Aug 30, 2014 |
merieam16: ah! Don't just tell me ure doubtin 4 religiondoubting what? by his grace am a christian,am 100% sure of my faith in christ. |
Re: The Promise Of Yahweh To Ishmael by Macelliot(m): 10:50pm On Aug 30, 2014 |
Rilwayne001:Jesus existed in Heave before Creation of Man. John 8:52-58 52-55 Jesus told the Crowd, "anyone who believes in Me will never die." The People told Jesus, "now we know that u have a demon in you. All the prophets died, Even our Father Abraham died, but you claimed that anybody that believes in you will not die." 56 Your father Abraham rejoiced at the thought of seeing my day; he saw it and was glad.” 57 They people said to Jesus, “You are not yet fifty(50) years old, and you have seen Abraham!” 58 “Very truly I tell you,” Jesus answered, “before Abraham was born, I am!” |
Re: The Promise Of Yahweh To Ishmael by NoContract(m): 11:39am On Aug 31, 2014 |
Matured people arguing over fairy tales. |
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Re: The Promise Of Yahweh To Ishmael by iceberylin(m): 11:54am On Aug 31, 2014 |
Religion Dragging Nigeria Backward since 1960 |
Re: The Promise Of Yahweh To Ishmael by Nobody: 1:56pm On Aug 31, 2014 |
Sahih International And We gave to Him Isaac and Jacob and placed in his descendants prophethood and scripture. And We gave him his reward in this world, and indeed, he is in the Hereafter among the righteous. Clearly, as Paul said, brethren let us listen to the conclusion of the whole mater God did not give M*med the lineage of prophethood and scripture. So there is no way he would have claimed prophet as he is no descendant of Isaac.
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Re: The Promise Of Yahweh To Ishmael by Ochibaisik(m): 3:23pm On Aug 31, 2014 |
Jesus is lord.The greatest mistake my muslim brothers will make is deceiving themselves.JESUS IS CALLINGTON YOU. |
Re: The Promise Of Yahweh To Ishmael by merieam16(f): 5:38pm On Aug 31, 2014 |
malvisguy212: doubting what? by his grace am a christian,am 100% sure of my faith in christ.gud |
Re: The Promise Of Yahweh To Ishmael by malvisguy212: 6:57pm On Aug 31, 2014 |
merieam16: gudare you a christian? Do you know the real reason you must give your life to jesus christ? |
Re: The Promise Of Yahweh To Ishmael by DonXavi(m): 4:41am On Sep 01, 2014 |
My prayer for my Muslim brothers is that God will open their eyes to see and know the truth that Jesus is the only way, the only truth and that in him alone could life be found. Below is the book of Luke 24:25-27 and 44 where Jesus appeared after his resurrection and was speaking to some of his disciples who were on their way to a village called Emmau, He made them understood that all the prophecies the prophets of old from Moses to Malachi prophesied was about Him, I don't actually know where Mohammed came in from to be a prophet of the God of Isreal when from Abraham God had promised a savior through the lineage of Isaac and not that of Ishmael. Luke 24:25-27 and 44 So he said to them, “You foolish people – how slow of heart to believe all that the prophets have spoken! 26 Wasn’t it necessary for the Christ to suffer these things and enter into his glory?” 27 Then beginning with Moses and all the prophets, he interpreted to them the things written about himself in all the scriptures. 44 Then he said to them, “These are my words that I spoke to you while I was still with you, that everything written about me in the law of Moses and the prophets and the psalms must be fulfilled.” |
Re: The Promise Of Yahweh To Ishmael by Dewze(m): 12:32pm On Sep 01, 2014 |
[/quote] Rilwayne001:Both Cain and his brother Abel worshiped and rendered sacrifices to one God alone. Cain's was rejected, while Abel's was accepted. Because of this, Cain's heart burned with anger and hate toward his brother until he became hostile and killed him. |
Re: The Promise Of Yahweh To Ishmael by IbnuUche(m): 9:24pm On Sep 01, 2014 |
ZKOSOSO: That Ismael is blessed is not the same as having the COVENANT. The ETERNAL covenant of Redemption of Mankind through JESUS cannot come from a BASTARD Ishmael son of hagar.no doubt you be really idiotic bastarrrrd! |
Re: The Promise Of Yahweh To Ishmael by IbnuUche(m): 9:28pm On Sep 01, 2014 |
malvisguy212: are you blind to read my coment? Dint you read were I say God make him a great nation because the blood of abraham run in him? The covenant was with isaac, an everlasting covenant.lier misquotation |
Re: The Promise Of Yahweh To Ishmael by malvisguy212: 10:43pm On Sep 01, 2014 |
IbnuUche: lier misquotationgo and read the verse again and correct me of am wrong. SHALOM. |
Re: The Promise Of Yahweh To Ishmael by eyeopener: 8:26pm On Sep 02, 2014 |
IbnuUche: lier misquotation You still can call somebody a lier despite clear evidences from the bible and quran that allah is not the God of the bible. I think you should seriously ponder on that. |
Re: The Promise Of Yahweh To Ishmael by harbiola1(m): 9:25pm On Sep 04, 2014 |
Rilwayne001: Rilwayne001Salam aleykum brother. |
Re: The Promise Of Yahweh To Ishmael by Rilwayne001: 9:27pm On Sep 04, 2014 |
harbiola1: Salam aleykum brother. Waalaykum salam waramatullah. Bro. how are you doing? Hope you are fine? |
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