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| Re: Muhammad(pbuh) In The Bible(evidence) by Ovacoma: 11:58pm On Sep 22, 2014 |
Hmmmmm, lies or is it called taqu...? Jesus says, 'I am the Way, the Truth and Life, no man comes to the Father but by me'. Do you also quote that in the mosque? |
| Re: Muhammad(pbuh) In The Bible(evidence) by Ovacoma: 12:03am On Sep 23, 2014 |
Abdulsalam20: WHAT AN ANTICHRIST!!!!!.......IT IS VERY FUNNY THAT THE WORD BIBLE CANNOT BE FOUND IN THE BIBLEread 1 John 2:22-23 |
| Re: Muhammad(pbuh) In The Bible(evidence) by BossTtdiamonds(m): 3:56pm On Sep 23, 2014 |
Ovacoma: read 1 John 2:22-23You shouldn't have.. He'll tell you that verse is corrupted... Abdulsalam20: WHAT AN ANTICHRIST!!!!!.......IT IS VERY FUNNY THAT THE WORD BIBLE CANNOT BE FOUND IN THE BIBLE The same way the word Muhammad, Quran, Allah cannot be found in the Bible... Kapeesh... |
| Re: Muhammad(pbuh) In The Bible(evidence) by Abdulsalam20(m): 5:15pm On Sep 23, 2014 |
BossTtdiamonds:YOU JUST DISGRACE YOURSELF NOW I ASK YOU TO PROVIDE A VERSE WHERE BIBLE IS MENTIONED NONE OF U CAN PROVIDE IT THIS IS WHAT IS IN 1JOHN CHAPTER 2 VERSE 22-23 Who is a liar but he that denieth that Jesus is the Christ? He is antichrist, that denieth the Father and the Son. 23 Whosoever denieth the Son, the same hath not the Father: (but) he that acknowledgeth the Son hath the Father also U SEE NOW  WAIT LET ME ASK YOU DID U FOLLOW JESUS TEACHING?...IF U FOLLOW JESUS TEACHING YOU WILL NOT BE WORSHIPING A PROPHET INSTED U WILL BE WORSHIPING GOD BESIDE JESUS CALL EVERYBODY SON OF GOD WHICH MEAN SERVANT OF GOD PLS BE ATTTENTIVE Do you see a difference between these two Bible versions? King James Version Acts 3:25 - Ye are the children of the prophets, and of the covenant which God made with our fathers, saying unto Abraham, And in thy seed shall all the kindreds of the earth be blessed. New King James Version Acts 3:25 - You are the sons of the prophets, and of the covenant which God made with our fathers, saying to Abraham, 'And in your seed all the families of the earth shall be blessed. NOW READ THIS ALSO King James Version Acts 3:26 - Unto you first God, having raised up his SON JESUS , sent him to bless you, in turning away every one of you from his iniquities. NEW KING JAMES VERSION Acts 3:26 - To you first, God, having raised up His SERVANT JESUS , sent Him to bless you, in turning every one of you away from his iniquities IN THE KJV, WE FIND THAT JESUS IS GOD'S SON. IN THE NKJV, WE FIND THAT HE IS GOD'S SERVANT. THESE ARE CLEARLY NOT THE SAME! THE GREEK WORD FOUND IN THE TEXT HERE IS "PAIS". IT CAN BE USED IN GREEK FOR EITHER "SON" OR "SERVANT." SO WHICH ONE IS CORRECT HERE? THE SOLUTION IS SIMPLE: LOOK AT THE CONTEXT IN WHICH IT IS USED. IN ENGLISH, WE HAVE MANY WORDS THAT CAN HAVE MORE THAN ONE MEANING. IF A TRANSLATOR, GOING FROM ENGLISH TO ANOTHER LANGUAGE, CAME ACROSS THE WORD "BEAR," HE WOULD HAVE A CHOICE OF MEANINGS. BUT IT WOULDN'T TAKE ROCKET SCIENCE TO FIGURE OUT WHICH ONE TO USE. IF THE PASSAGE DESCRIBED A MAN WITH A HEAVY BURDEN, THE TRANSLATOR WOULD UNDERSTAND THAT THE MAN IS GOING TO "BEAR," OR "CARRY" THE BURDEN. IF, ON THE OTHER HAND, THE PASSAGE DESCRIBED A HAIRY BEAST CLIMBING A TREE, THE TRANSLATOR WOULD UNDERSTAND THE CORRECT MEANING HERE APPLIES TO A FOREST-DWELLING ANIMAL THAT WILL EAT NEARLY ANYTHING IT FINDS. IT'S NOT REALLY VERY HARD. NOW LOOK AT THE BIBLE PASSAGE ABOVE. WHAT IS BEING DISCUSSED? "CHILDREN OF THE PROPHETS" "COVENANT WHICH GOD MADE WITH OUR FATHERS" "IN THY SEED SHALL ALL THE KINDREDS OF THE EARTH BE BLESSED." IT'S CLEAR, ISN'T IT? THE PASSAGE IS TALKING ABOUT "CHILDREN," AND "FATHERS" AND "SEED." THE WORD "PAIS" MEANS "SON." BUT THE NEW KING JAMES TRANSLATORS CHOSE "SERVANT." WHY? THEY WERE NOT ALONE. THE NEW WORLD TRANSLATION, CREATED BY THE JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES WHO DENY THE DEITY OF JESUS, TRANSLATED THIS WORD "SERVANT" ALSO. SO DO THE NIV, ASV, NASB AND OTHER MODERN BIBLE TRANSLATIONS. COULD IT BE THAT THESE MODERN TRANSLATORS DISAGREE THAT "PAIS" CAN BE TRANSLATED "SON?" NO, THE NKJV COMMITTEE TRANSLATES THIS VERY WORD AS "BOY," "CHILD" OR "SON" IN MATTHEW 2:16; 17:18; 21:15; LUKE 2:43; 9:42; AND JOHN 4:51. YET THEY REFUSED TO TRANSLATE THE WORD AS "SON" IN THIS POWERFUL SERMON WHERE PETER PRESENTS JESUS AS MESSIAH AND SON OF GOD. ONE HAS TO ASK, WHY WERE THESE TRANSLATORS SO DETERMINED TO DENY THE DEITY OF JESUS IN THIS PASSAGE? IS THIS A BIBLE YOU CAN TRUST WITH YOUR ETERNAL DESTINY? |
| Re: Muhammad(pbuh) In The Bible(evidence) by Abdulsalam20(m): 5:17pm On Sep 23, 2014 |
Ovacoma: read 1 John 2:22-23 BossTtdiamonds:YOU JUST DISGRACE YOURSELF NOW I ASK YOU TO PROVIDE A VERSE WHERE BIBLE IS MENTIONED NONE OF U CAN PROVIDE IT THIS IS WHAT IS IN 1JOHN CHAPTER 2 VERSE 22-23 Who is a liar but he that denieth that Jesus is the Christ? He is antichrist, that denieth the Father and the Son. 23 Whosoever denieth the Son, the same hath not the Father: (but) he that acknowledgeth the Son hath the Father also U SEE NOW WAIT LET ME ASK YOU DID U FOLLOW JESUS TEACHING?...IF U FOLLOW JESUS TEACHING YOU WILL NOT BE WORSHIPING A PROPHET INSTED U WILL BE WORSHIPING GOD BESIDE JESUS CALL EVERYBODY SON OF GOD WHICH MEAN SERVANT OF GOD PLS BE ATTTENTIVE Do you see a difference between these two Bible versions? King James Version Acts 3:25 - Ye are the children of the prophets, and of the covenant which God made with our fathers, saying unto Abraham, And in thy seed shall all the kindreds of the earth be blessed. New King James Version Acts 3:25 - You are the sons of the prophets, and of the covenant which God made with our fathers, saying to Abraham, 'And in your seed all the families of the earth shall be blessed. NOW READ THIS ALSO King James Version Acts 3:26 - Unto you first God, having raised up his SON JESUS , sent him to bless you, in turning away every one of you from his iniquities. NEW KING JAMES VERSION Acts 3:26 - To you first, God, having raised up His SERVANT JESUS , sent Him to bless you, in turning every one of you away from his iniquities IN THE KJV, WE FIND THAT JESUS IS GOD'S SON. IN THE NKJV, WE FIND THAT HE IS GOD'S SERVANT. THESE ARE CLEARLY NOT THE SAME! THE GREEK WORD FOUND IN THE TEXT HERE IS "PAIS". IT CAN BE USED IN GREEK FOR EITHER "SON" OR "SERVANT." SO WHICH ONE IS CORRECT HERE? THE SOLUTION IS SIMPLE: LOOK AT THE CONTEXT IN WHICH IT IS USED. IN ENGLISH, WE HAVE MANY WORDS THAT CAN HAVE MORE THAN ONE MEANING. IF A TRANSLATOR, GOING FROM ENGLISH TO ANOTHER LANGUAGE, CAME ACROSS THE WORD "BEAR," HE WOULD HAVE A CHOICE OF MEANINGS. BUT IT WOULDN'T TAKE ROCKET SCIENCE TO FIGURE OUT WHICH ONE TO USE. IF THE PASSAGE DESCRIBED A MAN WITH A HEAVY BURDEN, THE TRANSLATOR WOULD UNDERSTAND THAT THE MAN IS GOING TO "BEAR," OR "CARRY" THE BURDEN. IF, ON THE OTHER HAND, THE PASSAGE DESCRIBED A HAIRY BEAST CLIMBING A TREE, THE TRANSLATOR WOULD UNDERSTAND THE CORRECT MEANING HERE APPLIES TO A FOREST-DWELLING ANIMAL THAT WILL EAT NEARLY ANYTHING IT FINDS. IT'S NOT REALLY VERY HARD. NOW LOOK AT THE BIBLE PASSAGE ABOVE. WHAT IS BEING DISCUSSED? "CHILDREN OF THE PROPHETS" "COVENANT WHICH GOD MADE WITH OUR FATHERS" "IN THY SEED SHALL ALL THE KINDREDS OF THE EARTH BE BLESSED." IT'S CLEAR, ISN'T IT? THE PASSAGE IS TALKING ABOUT "CHILDREN," AND "FATHERS" AND "SEED." THE WORD "PAIS" MEANS "SON." BUT THE NEW KING JAMES TRANSLATORS CHOSE "SERVANT." WHY? THEY WERE NOT ALONE. THE NEW WORLD TRANSLATION, CREATED BY THE JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES WHO DENY THE DEITY OF JESUS, TRANSLATED THIS WORD "SERVANT" ALSO. SO DO THE NIV, ASV, NASB AND OTHER MODERN BIBLE TRANSLATIONS. COULD IT BE THAT THESE MODERN TRANSLATORS DISAGREE THAT "PAIS" CAN BE TRANSLATED "SON?" NO, THE NKJV COMMITTEE TRANSLATES THIS VERY WORD AS "BOY," "CHILD" OR "SON" IN MATTHEW 2:16; 17:18; 21:15; LUKE 2:43; 9:42; AND JOHN 4:51. YET THEY REFUSED TO TRANSLATE THE WORD AS "SON" IN THIS POWERFUL SERMON WHERE PETER PRESENTS JESUS AS MESSIAH AND SON OF GOD. ONE HAS TO ASK, WHY WERE THESE TRANSLATORS SO DETERMINED TO DENY THE DEITY OF JESUS IN THIS PASSAGE? IS THIS A BIBLE YOU CAN TRUST WITH YOUR ETERNAL DESTINY? SMH |
| Re: Muhammad(pbuh) In The Bible(evidence) by Abdulsalam20(m): 5:26pm On Sep 23, 2014 |
IT SEEMS YOU GUYS NEED SERIOUS ORIENTATION JESUS IS GOD'S SERVANT ALL OF MANKIND ARE THE SERVANTS OF GOD. IF A MAN WERE TO OWN ANOTHER MAN THEN THAT MAN WOULD BE HIS SERVANT. OBVIOUSLY THIS SERVANT WOULD BE HELD IN A LOWER REGARD THAN THIS MAN'S OWN CHILDREN (OR HIMSELF). WE DO NOT USUALLY FIND PEOPLE TELLING THEIR SONS (OR THEMSELVES): "COME HERE MY SERVANT," OR "GO OVER THERE MY SERVANT." LET US COMPARE THIS WITH WHAT GOD HAS TO SAY ABOUT JESUS (PBUH): 1. MATTHEW 12:18: "BEHOLD MY SERVANT, WHOM I HAVE CHOSEN." 2. ACTS 3:13(RSV): "THE GOD OF ABRAHAM, AND OF ISAAC,.... HATH GLORIFIED HIS SERVANT JESUS." 3. ACTS 4:27(RSV): "FOR OF A TRUTH AGAINST THY HOLY SERVANT JESUS, WHOM THOU HAST ANOINTED...." THE ACTUAL GREEK WORD USED IS "PIAS " OR "PAIDA" WHICH MEAN; "SERVANT, CHILD, SON, MANSERVANT." SOME TRANSLATIONS OF THE BIBLE, SUCH AS THE POPULAR KING JAMES VERSION, HAVE TRANSLATED THIS WORD AS "SON" WHEN IT IS ATTRIBUTED TO JESUS (PBUH) AND "SERVANT" FOR MOST EVERYONE ELSE, WHILE MORE RECENT TRANSLATIONS OF THE BIBLE SUCH AS THE REVISED STANDARD VERSION (RSV) NOW HONESTLY TRANSLATE IT AS "SERVANT." AS WE SHALL SEE IN LATER CHAPTERS, THE RSV WAS COMPILED BY THIRTY TWO BIBLICAL SCHOLARS OF THE HIGHEST EMINENCE, BACKED BY 50 COOPERATING CHRISTIAN DENOMINATIONS FROM THE "MOST" ANCIENT BIBLICAL MANUSCRIPTS AVAILABLE TO THEM TODAY. CHANCES ARE THAT NO MATTER WHAT YOUR CHURCH OR DENOMINATION YOU ARE ABLE TO NAME, THAT CHURCH TOOK PART IN THE CORRECTION OF THE KING JAMES VERSION OF THE BIBLE WHICH RESULTED IN THE RSV. THE EXACT SAME WORD "PIAS" IS ATTRIBUTED TO JACOB(ISRAEL) IN LUKE 1:54 AND TRANSLATED AS "SERVANT": "HE HATH HELPED HIS SERVANT ISRAEL, IN REMEMBRANCE OF HIS MERCY;." IT IS ALSO APPLIED TO KING DAVID IN LUKE 1:69, AND ONCE AGAIN, IT IS TRANSLATED AS "SERVANT": "....THE HOUSE OF HIS SERVANT DAVID;" (ALSO SEE ACTS 4:25). HOWEVER, WHEN IT IS APPLIED TO JESUS (E.G. ACTS 3:13, ACTS 4:27), NOW IT IS TRANSLATED AS "SON ." (NOTICE THAT IT IS NOT ONLY TRANSLATED AS "SON" BUT AS "SON".) WHY THE DOUBLE STANDARD? WHY THE DISHONEST TRANSLATION TECHNIQUES? "AND VERILY, AMONG THEM IS A PARTY WHO TWIST THEIR TONGUES WITH THE SCRIPTURE THAT YOU MIGHT THINK THAT IT IS FROM THE SCRIPTURE BUT IT IS NOT FROM THE SCRIPTURE; AND THEY SAY, 'IT IS FROM ALLAH' BUT IT IS NOT FROM ALLAH; AND THEY SPEAK A LIE AGAINST ALLAH WHILE [WELL] THEY KNOW IT!" THE NOBLE QUR'AN, A'AL-UMRAN(3):78 "THE MESSIAH WILL NEVER SCORN TO BE A SERVANT OF ALLAH, NOR WILL THE FAVORED ANGELS. WHOSOEVER SCORNS HIS SERVICE AND IS PROUD, ALL SUCH WILL HE ASSEMBLE UNTO HIM; THEN AS FOR THOSE WHO BELIEVED AND DID GOOD WORKS, UNTO THEM WILL HE PAY THEIR WAGES IN FULL AND SHALL INCREASE THEM FROM HIS BOUNTY. [BUT] AS FOR THOSE WHO WERE SCORNFUL AND PROUD, HE SHALL PUNISH HEM WITH A PAINFUL TORMENT, NOR WILL THEY FIND FOR THEMSELVES OTHER THAN ALLAH ANY ALLY OR CHAMPION" THE NOBLE QUR'AN, AL-NISSA(4):172-174 |
| Re: Muhammad(pbuh) In The Bible(evidence) by Abdulsalam20(m): 5:32pm On Sep 23, 2014 |
THERE ARE STILL MORE EVIDENCE BUT U MIGHT SAY MY POST IS TOO LONG Let us look at what Jesus said about himself and about GOD Almighty: "I do nothing of myself (From the NIV Bible, John 8:28) " "My Father (GOD) is greater than I (From the NIV Bible, John 14:28) " "Father (GOD), into thy hands I commend my spirit (From the NIV Bible, Luke 23:46) " "And Jesus said to him, ‘Why do you call me good? No one is good but God alone. (From the NIV Bible, Mark 10:18) " "No one knows about that day or hour, not even the angels in heaven, nor the Son, but only the Father. (From the NIV Bible, Matthew 24:36) " Do these quotes suggest at all that Jesus is in the same level as the Creator of the Universe? As we've seen above, in Hebrew, "Son of God" can also be translated as "Servant of God", which literally means "Abdallah" in Arabic. Abd = Servant, and allah = Allah, or the Supreme GOD Almighty that is above all gods. So, Jesus being called "Son of God" does not mean anything about him being part of GOD or GOD Almighty Himself. It simply means "Servant of God" since Jesus existed among Jews and preached the Gospel to them. Allah Almighty said: "And they say: "(God) Most Gracious has begotten offspring." Glory to Him! they are (but) servants raised to honour. (The Noble Quran, 21:26) " Jesus himself in his own quotes in the New Testament refuted trinity as shown above. The Bible in the Old Testament also refuted trinity by saying that Jesus will have the spirit of fearing GOD Almighty in him. How can GOD Almighty fear Himself? And why would the Creator of the Universe have any fear in Him? Jesus clearly was the Servant of GOD Almighty as Islam claims. Jesus was the Jews' Messiah and Leader, and Allah Almighty's Messenger to them. But he was not part of GOD Almighty, nor His biological son. |
| Re: Muhammad(pbuh) In The Bible(evidence) by Abdulsalam20(m): 5:54pm On Sep 23, 2014 |
Ovacoma: Hmmmmm, lies or is it called taqu...? Jesus says, 'I am the Way, the Truth and Life, no man comes to the Father but by me'. Do you also quote that in the mosque?SURE I BELIEVE I YISA (PEACE E UPON HIM) HE IS A PROPHET AND IF I BELIEVE IN MUHAMMAD AND I TESTIFY HIM ALSO AS A PROPHET OF GOD THEN I AM FOLLOWING YISA (PEACE BE UPON BOTH OF THEM)....BECAUSE BOTH OF THEM ARE PROPHET OF GOD PLS READ MY RECENT POST ON THIS THREAD AND THIS IS JUST A COMPLEMENT TO IT THAT JESUS IS A PROPHET Matthew 13:57 And they took offense at Him. But Jesus said to them, "A prophet is not without honor except in his hometown and in his own household." [color=#990000] , Matthew 21:11 And the crowds were saying, "This is the prophet Jesus, from Nazareth in Galilee." , John 4:44 For Jesus Himself testified that a prophet has no honor in his own country Quran 4;171. O people of the Scripture (Jews and Christians)! Do not exceed the limits in your religion, nor say of Allah aught but the truth. The Messiah 'Iesa (Jesus), son of Maryam (Mary), was no more than a Messenger of Allah' and His Word, ("Be!" - and he was) which He bestowed on Maryam (Mary) and a spirit (Ruh) created by Him; so believe in Allah and His Messengers. Say not: "Three (trinity)!" Cease! (it is) better for you. For Allah is (the only) One Ilah (God), Glory be to Him (Far Exalted is He) above having a son. To Him belongs all that is in the heavens and all that is in the earth. And Allah is All-Sufficient as a Disposer of affairs. AND ALSO WHEN JESUS SAY I AM THE WAY AND THE LIGHT .............WHAT JESUS IS TELLING YOU IS THAT WHOEVER THAT DONT FOLLOW HIS TEACHING CAN NOT PRAY TO GOD HE DIDNT MEAN THAT YOU SHOULD WORSHIP HIM AND EVEN HOW MANY TEACHING O THE PROPHET DID U FOLLOW I MEAN JESUS(PBUH) INFACT THERE IS CLEAR PROPHESY OF MUHAMMAD IN THE BIBLE TO THE EXTENT THAT HIS NAME WAS MENTIONED IN SONG OF SOLOMON 5:16 IN THE HEREW BIBLE I QUOTE Hikko Mamittakim we kullo Muhammadim Zehdoodeh wa Zehraee Bayna Jerusalem ." "His mouth is most sweet: yea, he is altogether lovely. This is my beloved, and this is my friend, O daughters of Jerusalem." In the Hebrew language im is added for respect. Similarely im is added after the name of Prophet Muhammad (pbuh) to make it Muhammadim. In English translation they have even translated the name of Prophet Muhammad (pbuh) as "altogether lovely", but in the Old Testament in Hebrew, the name of Prophet Muhammad (pbuh) is yet present. When Bible said 'Anti Christ shall arise in the last days, and shall deceived many ."Nigerian Christians expect to some day see a huge dark man with two horns & a tail, without knowing that most of these their today pastors are the real anti Christ Bible talked about, Recruiting them as a potential candidates for Hell. THIS VERSE WILL MAKE U UNDERSTAND THE VERSE U POSTED MORE “Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven. Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works? And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity. Therefore whosoever heareth these sayings of mine, and doeth them, I will liken him unto a wise man, which built his house upon a rock” |
| Re: Muhammad(pbuh) In The Bible(evidence) by BossTtdiamonds(m): 12:06am On Sep 24, 2014 |
Abdulsalam20: I pray your ignorance does not lead to your demise... You quote a verse from KJV saying KJV is saying the wrong thing.. then you used the same KJV to Justify another... I wonder if you know what Consistency means... But here's the real fact.. Of all you've posted, you still have not showed me where Muhammad, Quran or Islam is written in the Bible be it KJV, NIV, RSV, NKJV.. All you've done is beat 'bout the bush trying to change the topic.. But my Question still stands.. Where is the word Muhammad written in the bible... I'll give you an hint of where Muhammad was written in the bible.. 1John ch 4 vs 3 Let's see if you can find out.. |
| Re: Muhammad(pbuh) In The Bible(evidence) by Abdulsalam20(m): 8:27am On Sep 24, 2014 |
BossTtdiamonds:IN THE FIRST PLACE LET ME ADRESS THE VERSE YOU POSTED PLEASE WHO ARE THE REAL ANTICHRIST LET US ANALYSE IT AND SEE *JESUS PRAY BY OWING DOWN HIS HEAD CHRISTIAN PRAY BY DANCING SINGING AND DRUMMING(PLS HOW MANY CHRISTIAN BOW DOWN THEIR HEAD) *JESUS FORBID WOMEN TO TALK IN CHURCH BUT NOW CHRISTIANS ORGANISE CHOIR INFACT LADIES ARE NOW PASTORS *JESUS LEAVE HIS BEARD NO CHRISTIAN DO THAT ONLY MUSLIMS DO THAT BUT THE ONLY THING CHRISTIAN DO IS TO LAUGH AT THEM *JESUS FORBID CHARGING OF INTEREST WHEN WE TRY TO ESTABLISH ISLAMIC BANKING WITH INTEREST FREE LOAN CAN OPPOSE IT *JESUS ORDER FEMALE TO COVER THEIR HAIR IF U GO TO CHURCHES YOU WILL SEE WOMEN WITH THEIR HAIR OPEN SOME WITH HANDKECHIEF AND SOME WITH HAT WHICH ONLY COVER HALF OF THE HAIR WHEN AREGBESOLA RAISE THE ISSUE OF USING HIJAAB IN OSUN STATE SCHOOLS INFACT HE DIDNT SAY IT IS COMPULSOR HE SAID WHO SO WSH......BUT UNFORTUNATELY CAN OPPOSED IT....INFACT IN LAGOS STATE IT IS YET TO BE IMPLEMENTED DUE TO CAN DISAGREEMENT *JESU WORSHIP THE ONE AND ONLY TRUE GOD BUT YOU MIS INTER PRET HIM NOW YOU ARE WORSHIPING THREE GODS *IT IS CLEAR IN THE BIBLE THAT WE SHOULD TO GO HAJJ(MEKKAH) AND THAT JERUSALEM IS NO MORE HOLY BT YOU PEOPLE FEEL RELUCTANT I CREATED A THREAD FOR IT NOBODY COULD DEFEND IT WHAT THEY DO IS TO DERAIL *JESUS SURRENDER TO GOD TOTALLY BUT U DIDNT U ASSOCIATE PARTNER WITH GOD *JESUS FORBID EATING PORK MOST CHRISTIAN EAT IT BUT ONLY MSLIMS NEVER EAT IT *JESUS IS A PROPHET OF GOD BUT YOU CALL HIM GOD(I HAVE ALREADY PROVE THIS FOR U JEUS ISNOT DEAD BUT U SAY HE IS DEAD PLEASE CHECK MY PROFILE FOR DETAIL THERE ARE STILL MANY MORE BUT LETS STOP HERE PLS ASK YOURSELF DID YOU REALLY FOLLOW JESUS?BECAUSE THERE IS CLEAR PROPHESY OF MUHAMMAD IN YOUR BIBLE PLEASE ARE THIS NOT PROOF OF ANTICHRIST ACCORDING TO THE VERSE U POSTED SO AS YOU CAN SEE MUSLIMS ARE THE TRUE CHRISTIAN BUT PRESENT CHRISTIANS ARE ANTICHRIST BASED ON YOUR NEXT QUESTION MUHAMMAD IS MENTIONED IN SONG OF SOLOMON CHAPTER 5:16 Hikko Mamittakim we kullo Muhammadim Zehdoodeh wa Zehraee Bayna Jerusalem ." "His mouth is most sweet: yea, he is altogether lovely. This is my beloved, and this is my friend, O daughters of Jerusalem." In the Hebrew language im is added for respect. Similarely im is added after the name of Prophet Muhammad (pbuh) to make it Muhammadim. In English translation they have even translated the name of Prophet Muhammad (pbuh) as "altogether lovely", but in the Old Testament in Hebrew, the name of Prophet Muhammad (pbuh) is yet present. NOIW YOUR NEXT QUESTION ALLAH IS MENTIONED SEVERAL TIMES IN THE BIBLE ALLAH IS THE ARABIC TRANSLATION OF GOD PLEASE TO CONFIRM ASK YOUR FELLOW CHRISTIAN IN ARABIC SPEAKING COUNTRY LIKE PALESTINE ASK THEM THAT WHEN THEY ARE PRAYING WHAT DO THEY CALL GOD *INFACT ASK THEM THAT IN THE BIBLE HOW DID THEY WRITE GOD THEY USE ALLAH BECAUSE IT IS THE ARABIC TRANSLATION OF GOD GOD IS MENTIONED SEVERAL TIME IN THE BIBLE I cast out devils by the Spirit of God…." [The Bible, Mathew 12:28] NOW YOUR NEXT QUESTION:IN THE FIRST PLACE LET ME START BY EXPLAINING WHAT IS ISLAM ISLAM MEANS TOTAL SUBMISSION TO GOD UNCONDITIONALLY ALL PROPHET SUBMIT TI GOD UNCONDITIONALLY SO THAT IS ISLAM THEY BOW THEIR HEAD TO PRAY THEN PERFORM ABLUTION,THEY FORBID ACCEPTING INTEREST ALL PROPHET LEAVE THEIR BEARD SO AS MUHAMMAD AND WE MUSLIM ALSO DO THAT ALL PROPHET PREACH THAT THE LORD OUR GOD IS ONE GOD THEY NEVER SAID THREE SO ISLAM(TOTAL SUBIMISSIOIN TO GOD WAS PROPHESISED BY ALL PROPHET) |
| Re: Muhammad(pbuh) In The Bible(evidence) by Abdulsalam20(m): 8:41am On Sep 24, 2014 |
HAVE U ASK YOUSELF WHAT IS ISLAM IT IS GOD THAT SEND TORAH(LAW TO MOSES) AND THE INJIL TO JESUS THAT SEND THE EVERLASTING OSPEL TOMUHAMMAD LETS START IS MUHAMMAD PROPHESISED IN THE BIBLE? Biblical Prophecies on the Advent of Muhammad , the Prophet of Islam The Biblical prophecies on the advent of the Prophet Muhammad are evidence of the truth of Islam for people who believe in the Bible. In Deuteronomy 18, Moses stated that God told him: “I will raise up for them a prophet like you from among their brothers; I will put my words in his mouth, and he will tell them everything I command him. If anyone does not listen to my words that the prophet speaks in my name, I myself will call him to account.” (Deuteronomy 18:18-19).1 From these verses we conclude that the prophet in this prophecy must have the following three characteristics: 1) That he will be like Moses. 2) That he will come from the brothers of the Israelites, i.e. the Ishmaelites. 3) That God will put His words in to the mouth of this prophet and that he will declare what God commands him. Let us examine these three characteristics in more depth: 1) A prophet like Moses: There were hardly any two prophets who were so much alike as Moses and Muhammad . Both were given a comprehensive law and code of life. Both encountered their enemies and were victorious in miraculous ways. Both were accepted as prophets and statesmen. Both migrated following conspiracies to assassinate them. Analogies between Moses and Jesus overlook not only the above similarities but other crucial ones as well. These include the natural birth, the family life, and death of Moses and Muhammad but not of Jesus. Moreover Jesus was regarded by his followers as the Son of God and not exclusively as a prophet of God, as Moses and Muhammad were and as Muslims believe Jesus was. So, this prophecy refers to the Prophet Muhammad and not to Jesus, because Muhammad is more like Moses than Jesus. Also, one notices from the Gospel of John that the Jews were waiting for the fulfillment of three distinct prophecies. The first was the coming of Christ. The second was the coming of Elijah. The third was the coming of the Prophet. This is obvious from the three questions that were posed to John the Baptist: “Now this was John’s testimony, when the Jews of Jerusalem sent priests and Levites to ask him who he was. He did not fail to confess, but confessed freely, “I am not the Christ.” They asked him, “Then who are you? Are you Elijah?” He said, “I am not.” “Are you the Prophet?” He answered, “No.” (John 1:19-21). If we look in a Bible with cross-references, we will find in the marginal notes where the words “the Prophet” occur in John 1:21, that these words refer to the prophecy of Deuteronomy 18:15 and 18:18.2 We conclude from this that Jesus Christ is not the prophet mentioned in Deuteronomy 18:18. 2) From the brothers of the Israelites: Abraham had two sons, Ishmael and Isaac (Genesis 21). Ishmael became the grandfather of the Arab nation, and Isaac became the grandfather of the Jewish nation. The prophet spoken of was not to come from among the Jews themselves, but from among their brothers, i.e. the Ishmaelites. Muhammad , a descendant of Ishmael, is indeed this prophet. Also, Isaiah 42:1-13 speaks of the servant of God, His “chosen one” and “messenger” who will bring down a law. “He will not falter or be discouraged till he establishes justice on earth. In his law the islands will put their hope.” (Isaiah 42:4). Verse 11, connects that awaited one with the descendants of Kedar. Who is Kedar? According to Genesis 25:13, Kedar was the second son of Ishmael, the ancestor of the Prophet Muhammad . 3) God will put His words in the mouth of this prophet: The words of God (the Holy Quran) were truly put into Muhammad’s mouth. God sent the Angel Gabriel to teach Muhammad the exact words of God (the Holy Quran) and asked him to dictate them to the people as he heard them. The words are therefore not his own. They did not come from his own thoughts, but were put into his mouth by the Angel Gabriel. During the life time of Muhammad , and under his supervision, these words were then memorized and written by his companions. Also, this prophecy in Deuteronomy mentioned that this prophet will speak the words of God in the name of God. If we looked to the Holy Quran, we will find that all its chapters, except Chapter 9, are preceded or begin with the phrase, “In the Name of God, the Most Gracious, the Most Merciful.” Another indication (other than the prophecy in Deuteronomy) is that Isaiah ties the messenger connected with Kedar with a new song (a scripture in a new language) to be sung to the Lord (Isaiah 42:10-11). This is mentioned more clearly in the prophecy of Isaiah: “and another tongue, will he speak to this people” (Isaiah 28:11 KJV). Another related point, is that the Quran was revealed in sections over a span of twenty-three years. It is interesting to compare this with Isaiah 28 which speaks of the same thing, “For it is: Do and do, do and do, rule on rule, rule on rule; a little here, a little there.” (Isaiah 28:10). Note that God has said in the prophecy of Deuteronomy 18, “If anyone does not listen to my words that the prophet speaks in my name, I myself will call him to account.” (Deuteronomy, 18:19). This means that whoever believes in the Bible must believe in what this prophet says, and this prophet is the Prophet Muhammad . |
| Re: Muhammad(pbuh) In The Bible(evidence) by BossTtdiamonds(m): 9:42am On Sep 24, 2014 |
I'm not on my PC.. Now.. When I get home.. I'll come reply you.. And really I will be very blunt.. Very very blunt.. |
| Re: Muhammad(pbuh) In The Bible(evidence) by Ovacoma: 1:13am On Sep 26, 2014 |
Abdulsalam20: yes some bible parts has been tampered with any aspect that contradict islamic teaching is not from GOD even though it has been tampered we can still find some few traces of prophet muhammad and some few islamic teaching that ur people forgot to tamper with.......because GOD knows that if he allows u to tamper with everything before the spirit of truth come it will be difficult for people to believehmmm. So you can go this far to establish a lie(islam)? 'some Bible parts have been tampered with' and allah, d 'owner' watched on? Dis is ridiculous, or is dat d reason yu also hep im do d fighting? |
| Re: Muhammad(pbuh) In The Bible(evidence) by BossTtdiamonds(m): 7:58am On Sep 26, 2014 |
I will try to answer your questions using simple and plain logic where I can.. Abdulsalam20: PLEASE ARE THIS NOT PROOF OF ANTICHRIST ACCORDING TO THE VERSE U POSTED SO AS YOU CAN SEE MUSLIMS ARE THE TRUE CHRISTIAN BUT PRESENT CHRISTIANS ARE ANTICHRIST This is convoluted logic.. You still do not conform to the normal standard of reason.... Christianity and Islam are two different things... If you say you Muslims are the True Christians, Then you must believe in the Word of God. The bible defines the antichrist in 1 John ch 4 vs 3 "And every spirit that confesseth not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is not of God: and this is that spirit of antichrist, whereof ye have heard that it should come; and even now is it in the world". And clearly Muslims do not believe in this fact, this is because the "Quran" says otherwise as posted above. Muhammad was the author of the Quran and he claimed he was inspired by a spirit. The spirit that Ministered to Muhammad is clearly the antichrist and those who conform to the logic of the Qur'an are "Followers of the antichrist". So in essence all Muslims are the antichrist that the Bible says are now in the World according to "and even now is it in the world" The antichrist live and we know it by the mark of the beast on their forehead... Why else would the forehead of Muslims be dark. Darkness is of the devil. So if the Antichrist are Muslims, they cannot be Christians; as a Christian would mean "Followers of Christ" Good and Evil are two different things, Know this |
| Re: Muhammad(pbuh) In The Bible(evidence) by BossTtdiamonds(m): 10:48am On Sep 26, 2014 |
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| Re: Muhammad(pbuh) In The Bible(evidence) by BossTtdiamonds(m): 12:25pm On Sep 26, 2014 |
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| Re: Muhammad(pbuh) In The Bible(evidence) by Abdulsalam20(m): 11:08am On Sep 27, 2014 |
BossTtdiamonds:*i'm not on system and my talet is faulty but i will try as much as possible to answer all your post *in my post about praying you said we dont fall on our face then that is stupidity for u and i will tell u that nearly all prophet pray as muhammad pray i will ty to quote few "Ezra the scribe stood on a high wooden platform(ready for solat) that had been made for the occasion. To his right stood Mattithiah, Shema, Anaiah, Uriah, Hilkiah, and Maaseiah. To his left stood Pedaiah, Mishael, Malkijah, Hashum, Hashbaddanah, Zechariah, and Meshullam." (Nehemiah 8:4)."And Ezra opened the book in the sight of all the people; (for he was above all the people  (imam) and when he opened it, all the people stood up:" (Nehemiah 8:5)."Then Ezra praised the LORD(takbiratul iram), the great God, and all the people chanted, "Amen! Amen!" as they lifted their hands. Then they bowed down (rukuh) and worshiped the LORD with their faces to the ground(sujud)." (Nehemiah 8:6).IN FACT THIS IS PRACTICAL SOLAT EXACTLY THE WAY MUSLIM PRAY THEY ARE PRAYING IN GROUP AS MUSLIM PRAY * Then Abram fell on his face. And God said to him(Genesis 17:3 ) * Then Moses and Aaron went from the presence of the assembly to the entrance of the tent of meeting and fell on their faces. And the glory of the LORD appeared to them, (Numbers 20:6 ) * ”And going a little farther he fell on his face and prayed”( Matthew 26:39 ) ** Even Jesus’ disciples submitted as Muslims When the disciples heard this, they fell on their faces and were terrified”( Matthew 17:6 ) * And Elijah went up to the top of Mount Carmel, And he bowed himself down on the earth and put his face between his knees.(1 kings 18: 42 ) • Moses (Pbuh) And Moses bowed to the ground and worshiped. (Exodus 34:  * • Abraham’s servant : When Abraham’s servant heard their words, he bowed himself to the ground before the Lord. (Genesis 24:52) * And all the angels were standing around the throne and around the elders and the four living creatures, and they fell on their faces before the throne and worshiped God, (Revelations 7:11 ) * Now Manoah and his wife were watching, and they fell on their faces to the ground. (Judges 13:20 ) THERE ARE STILL MANY TODEBUNK YOUR CLAIM THAT IT IS NOT MENTIONED FREQUENTLY IN THE BIBLE WHEN MUSLIM PRAY THEY FALL TO THEIR FACE THERE ARE VERSES OF ABLUTION ALSO BUT I WONT POST IT UNLESS YOU DEMAND FOR IT AND I EXPECT YOU TO GIVE ME A VERSE WHERE JESUS IS SINGING AND DANCING WITH DRUM AND GUITERT WITH CHOIR AND HE SHOUTING FIRE FIRE FIRE THE FACT IS JESUS NEVER WORSHIP LIKE THAT JESUS ALL PROPHET WORSHIP IN THE SAME MANNER JUST LOOK AT HOW EZRA WORSHIP THAT IS PRACTICAL SOLAT....PLS VISIT THIS LINK TO VIEW HOW TO SUJUD IN ISLAM https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oCLrtNfotIM http://m.youtube.com/watch?rl=yes&v=H0mgyjb2XSw&feature=related&client=mv-google&hl=en&gl=NG |
| Re: Muhammad(pbuh) In The Bible(evidence) by Abdulsalam20(m): 11:20am On Sep 27, 2014 |
BossTtdiamonds:*IT IS CLEAR IN THE BIBLE THAT WE SHOULD TO GO HAJJ(MEKKAH) AND THAT JERUSALEM IS NO MORE HOLY BT YOU PEOPLE FEEL RELUCTANT I CREATED A THREAD FOR IT NOBODY COULD DEFEND IT WHAT THEY DO IS TO DERAIL Are you serious.. You are deafening silly I'd have to admit..[s] Are you serious.. You are deafening silly I'd have to admit.. BossTtdiamonds:* [/s] [quote author=BossTtdiamonds] lets know who is silly oya prove it wrong Psalms 84:5-6 "Blessed are those whose strength is in you,who have set their hearts,on pilgrimage.As they pass through the valley of BACA(Makkah),they make it a place of springs;the rain also it with pools(Zamzam water). But,based on their logics,I found an answered to it already (that the place mentioned is Jerusalem).Here are my findings : JEREMIAH 13:27 "I God have seen your adultery and evil and arrogance,WOE,unto you JERUSALEM never shall you be holy again" GALANTIANS 4:25 "Because Hangar is the Sinai mountain of Arabia that stands for the (cursed) Jerusalem of today. MATTHEW 21:42-43 "Jesus said to them(the Jews) have you never read in the scriptures(eg, Jeremiah,Galantians etc);the stone(black stone of Makkah) which the builders rejected has became the CHIEF CORNER STONE.This is the Lord's doing and it is marvelous in our eye?Therefore,I say to you,the kingdom of God will be taken from you and given to a nation bearing the fruits of it. SACRIFICES IN MECCA ISAIAH 60:1-7 "...The multitude or camels shall cover thee,the dromedaries or Midian and Ephah;all they from Sheba come ;they shall bring gold and incense; and they shall shew forth the praises of the LORD. All the flocks of Kedar(Ka'bah) shall be gathered together unto thee,the rams of Nebaioth shall minister unto thee:they shall come up with acceptance on mine altar,and I will glorify the house ot my glory. I AM WAITING SIR |
| Re: Muhammad(pbuh) In The Bible(evidence) by Abdulsalam20(m): 11:43am On Sep 27, 2014 |
BossTtdiamonds: Yes Jesus is alive.. He lives in me.. the moment you IF JESUS IS TRULY DEAD THEN PROVE THIS WRONG PAUL SAID: O foolish Galatians! Who has bewitched you, before whose eyes Jesus Christ was publically portrayed as crucified?” (Galatians 3:1) – (R.S.V) In King James Version, the verse reads as follows: “O foolish Galatians, who hath bewitched you, that ye should not obey the truth, before whose eyes Jesus Christ hath been evidently set forth, crucified among you?” (Galatians 3:1) – (K.J.V) Note Is’t not a shame to those who persistently believed that, Jesus was killed and crucified? Look, Paul does not only refer Galatians as fools but, any person who believes that Jesus was crucified is also a fool 2 Did God answer the prayer of Jesus or did God reject his prayers? And where does Bible says, God rejected the prayer request of Jesus? The Bible will tell: The first assurance, God gave to Jesus of answering his prayer was to send his Angel to strengthen him, in the following verses: "And he came out, and went, as he was wont, to the mount of Olives; and his disciples also followed him." (Luk 22:39) "And when he was at the place, he said unto them, Pray that ye enter not into temptation." (Luk 22:40) " And he was withdrawn from them about a stone's cast, and kneeled down, and prayed," (Luk 22:41) "Saying, Father, if thou be willing, remove this cup from me: nevertheless not my will, but thine, be done." (Luk 22:42) "And there appeared an angel unto him from heaven, strengthening him." (Luk 22:43) "And being in an agony he prayed more earnestly: and his sweat was as it were great drops of blood falling down to the ground." (Luk 22:44) Note Now, why did God sent His Angel to Jesus when he was in a serious agony and in excessive sweat because of the seriousness of his request? And why the Angel did come and strengthened him? It is a common knowledge and experience that God always sent His Angels to comfort his chosen prophets or Saints by telling them that their requests have been accepted by Him (Allah), or to help them in their situations. The following verses confirm it: "For he shall give his angels charge over thee, to keep thee in all thy ways." (Psa 91:11) "The angel of the LORD encampeth round about them that fear him, and delivereth them." (Psa 34:7) "[Then] Nebuchadnezzar spake, and said, Blessed [be] the God of Shadrach, Meshach, and Abednego, who hath sent his angel, and delivered his servants that trusted in him, and have changed the king's word, and yielded their bodies, that they might not serve nor worship any god, except their own God." (Dan 3:28) Therefore, the purpose of coming of the Angel to Jesus at the time of his fear and suffering, when he was praying for the cup of death to be taken away from him was to inform him that his blood-like sweating prayer was accepted by God. And if this earnest prayer of Jesus was accepted by God, how could he have died on the cross? Never! FURTHER EVIDENCES ON THE APPROVAL OF JESUS PRAYER: "Who in the days of his flesh, when he had offered up prayers and supplications with strong crying and tears unto him that was able to save him from death, and was heard in that he feared;" (Heb 5:7) The verse says, Jesus prayed to be saved from the death, and was heard in that he feared (death) - means God accepted his prayer and grant his request - means he was saved from what he feared - which is death. So, if Christians still insisted that, Jesus was crucified, then the Hebrew 5:7 is in a serious contradiction - of which Christians seriouly hate to hear! Bible says again: "Then they took away the stone [from the place] where the dead was laid. And Jesus lifted up [his] eyes, and said, Father, I thank thee that thou hast heard me." (Joh 11:41) "And I knew that thou hearest me always: but because of the people which stand by I said [it], that they may believe that thou hast sent me." (Joh 11:42) Note "...And Jesus lifted up [his] eyes, and said, Father, I thank thee that thou hast heard me." - What dose this mean please? This means that, they tried but not succeeded, because God intervened and saved him from his enemies. Thus, they were not able to kill him, and consequently he was thanking God Surah Name: (Qur'an 4:157) "That they (Jews) said (in boast), "We killed Christ Jesus the son of Mary, the Messenger of Allah";- but they killed him not, nor crucified him, but so it was made to appear to them, and those who differ therein are full of doubts, with no (certain) knowledge, but only conjecture to follow, for of a surety they killed him not:-" "Nay! Allah took him up to Himself; and Allah is Mighty, Wise." (Qur'an 4:158) (English - Shakir) So, you see, Allah has spoken the truth. He already told prophet Muhammad that, Jews did not kill nor crucified him, but it was made to appear to them as they killed him, but certainly they did not. But Allah took him to heaven (to Himself). So, we are the best in position to easily see it, and notify any Christian for them to take correction and revert to the original belief. " |
| Re: Muhammad(pbuh) In The Bible(evidence) by Abdulsalam20(m): 11:51am On Sep 27, 2014 |
in addition to above paul has been deceiving u people he has claim to receive revelation from satan "And lest I should be exalted above measure through the abundance of the revelations, there was given to me a thorn in the flesh, the messenger of Satan to buffet me, lest I should be exalted above measure." ( 2Corinthians 12:7 ) (K.J.V.) What does this verse mean please? Messenger of Satan given him the Abundance of Revelations, and torturing him (not to tell the truth) for him to be honoured, glorified and exalted above measure! The messenger of Satan tortured him in order not to tell the truth, if not so, why torture? 3. According to the bible, the Crucifixion scenario was not witnessed by any of Jesus’s disciples because Mark 14:50 says “they all forsook him” 4. Jesus did not say if you wanted to be saved; belief in my death on the cross, rather he said in Mathew 19:17 that: “but if thou wilt enter into life, keep the commandments” So, Paul went ahead to curse and abuse Jesus Christ as follows. Paul says in Galatians 3:13: “Christ hath redeemed us from the curse of the law, being made a curse for us: for it is written, Cursed is every one that hangeth on a tree” St. Paul contradicted Christ teachings according to Romans 4:2 by saying “only faith counts, no need of upholding the law, "Therefore we conclude that a man is justified by faith apart from the deeds of the law." (Romans3:28). While Jesus said: “we should uphold the law in order to receive salvation in Mathew 5:19 and Mathew 16:27” 5. The bible says the sinner would bear the burden of his or her own sin. Check Deut. 24:16, Mathew 16:27, Ezekiel 18:20 Jesus sign of Jonah (See Mathew 12:38-40) “For as Jonas was three days and three nights in the whale's belly; so shall the Son of man be three days and three nights in the heart of the earth” 6. “And Jesus went a little further, and fell on his face, and prayed, saying, O my Father, if it be possible, let this cup pass from me (i.e save me from crucifixion): nevertheless not as I will, but as thou wilt. (Matthew 26:39) And the Bible confirmed that his prayer was answered according to Hebrew 5:7. That Jesus (PBUH): “Who in the days of his flesh, when he had offered up prayers and supplications with strong crying and tears unto Him that was able to save him from death, and was heard in that he feared”. (Hebrew 5:7) This means that God Almighty answered his prayer so he was not killed by the disbelievers. |
| Re: Muhammad(pbuh) In The Bible(evidence) by Abdulsalam20(m): 2:32pm On Sep 27, 2014 |
BossTtdiamonds: [s]READ MY NEXT POST BECAUSE ALL THIS YOU POST IS RUBISH |
| Re: Muhammad(pbuh) In The Bible(evidence) by Abdulsalam20(m): 2:53pm On Sep 27, 2014 |
* all what you posted about song of solomon is extranous to make my claim more sophisticated *Song of Songs 5:15 compares this prophetic mystery man to the land of "Lebanon" which is the land of the Arabs. This implies that the mystery man would be an Arab. * Verse 15 of the NIV Bible says: “His appearance is like Lebanon", so this is an Arabic gentleman (or Arab looking). * Verse 11 says: "his head is as the most fine gold, his locks are wavy, and black as a raven". Verse 10 describes this man as being "radiant and ruddy" which means he was slightly light-skinned with a rosy color. This physical description matches exactly with the authentic Islamic sources. Sahih Al Bukhari, Volume 4, Book 56, Number 747, says Muhammad was slightly light skinned, with a rosy color (and has the same hair as is mentioned in verse 11) * Song of Songs 5:10 says: "My beloved is white and ruddy, pre-eminent above ten thousand." This is a prophecy of Prophet Muhammad as he conquered Mecca. It is a well known historically documented fact that in the year 630 CE Muhammad entered Mecca as the leader of an army of "ten thousand men". * IN READING THE ENGLISH TRANSLATION OF SONG OF SONGS 5:16 IT FINISHES THE DESCRIPTION BY SAYING: "HE IS ALTOGETHER LOVELY" BUT WHAT MOST PEOPLE DON'T KNOW IS THAT THE NAME OF THAT MAN WAS GIVEN IN THE ORIGINAL MEGILOT. HERE IS THE NAME WRITTEN IN ANCIENT HEBREW AS IT APPEARS IN VERSE SIXTEEN: מחמד There is a plural used together with this Hebrew word, with the plural it’s pronounced “Mahamadd-im”. The ending letters 'im' is a plural of respect, majesty and grandeur for God’s prophet, just as in the word Eloh- im.(YOU EVEN ALSO AGREE YOURSELF THAT 'im' IS A PLURAL BUT YOU DIDNT SAY THE TRUTH THAT IT IS A PLURAL FOR RESPECT According to Ben Yehuda's Hebrew-English Dictionary, it is correctly pronounced as "Mahammad". If you don't believe me, go to these translator links, paste the name מחמד and then translate it into English. You will see that מחמד is translated as "Muhammad". http://www.freetranslation.com/ http://worldlingo.com/en/products_servi … lator.html You can also see and listen to the Song of Songs in its original form, in Hebrew where Muhammad is mentioned by name in the below link (please notice the "im" in Hebrew is a plural of respect): http://www.mechon-mamre.org/p/pt/pt3005.htm Watch the whole video here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wm3sZfPwv1g also checkHaggai 2:7 I will shake all nations, and the Muhammad of all nations will come, and I will fill this house with glory,' says the LORD Almighty. |
| Re: Muhammad(pbuh) In The Bible(evidence) by Abdulsalam20(m): 2:59pm On Sep 27, 2014 |
your objection: This is Solomon’s wife describing her husband. My Response: Verse 7 says, The watchmen found me as they made their rounds in the city. They beat me, they bruised me; they took away my cloak, those watchmen of the walls! Imagine the king’s wife beaten by the guards. This is funny and false. The woman, whoever she is, is not talking about a person that exists in her time. She is believed to be Solomon’s wife and says that she is beaten by the guards. Why would she be beaten when she wants to meet her husband? Why is she so desperately waiting? The answer is that this is not a literal saying but means that she is dying to meet Prophet Muhammad (s) whom she mentions by name with a description. |
| Re: Muhammad(pbuh) In The Bible(evidence) by Ovacoma: 5:07pm On Sep 27, 2014 |
So, yu see muhammad in the Bible? Yu see that jewish prophets were all muslims? Yu are a liar like yur prophet. You did not see that Jesus says 'I am the way, the Truth and life'? Yu did not read where Jesus says that His followers should ask God in His name? Please read John 14:13 and 14, John 15: 16. Do muslims obey these verses as you claim you are the real followers of Jesus? Do muslims believe in the Comforter (HOLY GHOST, john 14:26) that Jesus promised to send in HIS NAME? John 14:17, 26, John 16: 7-15? Do you believe these verses or they are corrupted ones? |
| Re: Muhammad(pbuh) In The Bible(evidence) by Abdulsalam20(m): 9:47pm On Sep 27, 2014 |
JESUS ORDER FEMALE TO COVER THEIR HAIR IF U GO TO CHURCHES YOU WILL SEE WOMEN WITH THEIR HAIR OPEN SOME WITH HANDKECHIEF AND SOME WITH HAT WHICH ONLY COVER HALF OF THE HAIR WHEN AREGBESOLA RAISE THE ISSUE OF USING HIJAAB IN OSUN STATE SCHOOLS INFACT HE DIDNT SAY IT IS COMPULSOR HE SAID WHO SO WSH......BUT UNFORTUNATELY CAN OPPOSED IT....INFACT IN LAGOS STATE IT IS YET TO BE IMPLEMENTED DUE TO CAN DISAGREEMENT BossTtdiamonds: [s] You clearly are not making sense.. Here.. [/s]I HAVE EVIDENCE FOR WHAT I SAY SO I AM STILL EXPECTING YOU TO PROVE ME WRONG ( 1 Corinthians 11:5, says that “Every woman who prays or prophesies with her head uncovered dishonours her head, for that is one and the same as if her head were shaved)............I am waiting sir |
| Re: Muhammad(pbuh) In The Bible(evidence) by Abdulsalam20(m): 10:00pm On Sep 27, 2014 |
*JESUS FORBID CHARGING OF INTEREST WHEN WE TRY TO ESTABLISH ISLAMIC BANKING WITH INTEREST FREE LOAN CAN OPPOSE IT BossTtdiamonds: [s] Would it not be illogical to think that the Bible opposed towhat u said is logically false PLS WHERE IS THE BIBLE WAS IT STATED THAT NOT ALL LOAN WE SHOULD NOT ACCEPT INTEREST ON.........AND U MIGHT THINK WHAT IS THE BENEFIT OF INTEREST FREE LOAN?........ITS MY FIELD BUT I WONT DISCUSS THAT HERE BUT I WILL ENLIGHTEN YOU ON IT IF YOU LIKE.......BANKS WILL NOT LIQUIDATE BECAUSE OF INTEREST FREE LOAN CONSIDER STATES LIKE LIBYA SAUDI ARABIA UNITED ARAB EMIRATE AND SOME OTHER STATE IMPLEMENTING IT THEIR ECONOMY IS EVEN MORE BETTER THAN SOME OTHER COUNTRY......PLS I SERIOUSLY NEED A VERSE WHERE IT IS SAID IN THE BIBLE THAT NOT ALL LOAN.......EVEN THIS EVEN PROVE MUSLIM FOLOW PROPHETS OF GOD MORE THAN YOU THEREFORE I STILL INSIST CHRISTIANS ARE ANTICHRIST |
| Re: Muhammad(pbuh) In The Bible(evidence) by Abdulsalam20(m): 10:32pm On Sep 27, 2014 |
JESU WORSHIP THE ONE AND ONLY TRUE GOD BUT YOU MIS INTER PRET HIM NOW YOU ARE WORSHIPING THREE GODS BossTtdiamonds: [s] god the Father, God the son. God the Holyspirit. This hasi will prove you wrong mathematically Jesus also confessed that: “My father is greater than I” (John 14:28) THIS MEANS GOD IS ONE AND ALL PROPHETS ARE ZERO Jesus confessed that he didn’t speak on his own authority, but that of God’s according to Mathew 7:21-24: “Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven. “ John 7:17 says: Jesus answered them, and said, My doctrine is not mine, but his that sent me. If any man will do his will, he shall know of the doctrine, whether it be of God, or whether I speak of myself.” WHAT JESUS IS SAYING HERE IS LA ILAHA ILALLAHU(there is no any other GOD worthy of worship except the only one GOD) The New Testament makes it very clear that Jesus is the son of man: Mat 8:20 And Jesus saith unto him, The foxes have holes, and the birds of the air [have] nests; but the Son of man hath not where to lay [his] head. Mat 9:6 But that ye may know that the Son of man hath power on earth to forgive sins, (then saith he to the sick of the palsy,) Arise, take up thy bed, and go unto thine house Mat 12:8 For the Son of man is Lord even of the sabbath day. Luk 9:44 Let these sayings sink down into your ears: for the Son of man shall be delivered into the hands of men. ALSO NOTE SON OF GOD IS THE SAME AS SERVANT OF GOD I CAN PROVE IT FOR YOU BASED ON YOUR ORDER MY BROTHER ACCEPT ISLAM AND WORSHIP GOD HOW GOD IS TOBE WORSHIPPED |
| Re: Muhammad(pbuh) In The Bible(evidence) by Abdulsalam20(m): 10:38pm On Sep 27, 2014 |
NOIW YOUR NEXT QUESTION Allah IS MENTIONED SEVERAL TIMES IN THE BIBLE Allah IS THE ARABIC TRANSLATION OF GOD PLEASE TO CONFIRM ASK YOUR FELLOW CHRISTIAN IN ARABIC SPEAKING COUNTRY LIKE PALESTINE ASK THEM THAT WHEN THEY ARE PRAYING WHAT DO THEY CALL GOD *INFACT ASK THEM THAT IN THE BIBLE HOW DID THEY WRITE GOD THEY USE Allah BECAUSE IT IS THE ARABIC TRANSLATION OF GOD GOD IS MENTIONED SEVERAL TIME IN THE BIBLE I cast out devils by the Spirit of God…." [The Bible, Mathew 12:28] [quote author=BossTtdiamonds][/quote][s] I didn't ask for all this bull and cut story of yours, I asked for where Allah is/was written in the bible.. The same way you have made a fool of yourself about The Muhammad in the bible, kindly make a fool yourself by showing me where the words Allah is written in the bible. If I needed a translation, I'd be wise enough to ask[/s] insulting me because i prove it tou that GOD IS THE SAME AS ALLAH noproblem |
| Re: Muhammad(pbuh) In The Bible(evidence) by Abdulsalam20(m): 10:59pm On Sep 27, 2014 |
BossTtdiamonds: Where exactly did Jesus Forbid Women to talk in Church..this shows how much u didnt understand your book it is stated in I Corinthians 14:34-35: Let your women keep silence in the churches: for it is not permitted unto them to speak; but they are commanded to be under obedience, as also saith the law. And if they will learn any thing, let them ask their husbands at home: for it is a shame for women to speak in the church.)..........u ask me abot conflict in chorint church that question is extranous u can go and read on it this doesnt relate to the verse i posted |
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