phreakabit:

Our application for Zmapp was turned down prior to the 50% survival rate u speak of .

Liekiller:

Err...the epidemic has been going on for 6 months

phreakabit:

Not in Nigeria. . . .

all4naija:
Not true. Nobody turned Nigeria down. The reason was clear, they didn't have enough ZMAPP in production. They likely give the remaining ones to treat Ebola patients in Liberia and other places where the situation is worse than the one in Nigeria.

ceejayluv:
This is not a "Nigeria" problem... It's a global threat.

phreakabit:

Not in Nigeria. . . .

Liekiller:


yeah so what? It's the same virus.

phreakabit:
Don't let emotion preceded over reason. Zmapp supplies were exhausted on 2 Americans, yet it was available for a Spanish priest. . . . Exhausted again until a Brit got infected, and then 3 Liberian based health workers ( one Nigerian) were given Zmapp after much pondering and deliberations. Still had enough Zmapp for 18 monkeys though. . Just saying.

all4naija:
You are lying! I followed the news. The one that was given to the priest was done before Nigeria health minister even requested for any. The remaining ones were forwarded to Liberia, etc. The priest you are pointing to died at the end. What is your skewed view all about though?

phreakabit:
Don't let emotion preceded over reason. Zmapp supplies were exhausted on 2 Americans, yet it was available for a Spanish priest. . . . Exhausted again until a Brit got infected, and then 3 Liberian based health workers ( one Nigerian) were given Zmapp after much pondering and deliberations. Still had enough Zmapp for 18 monkeys though. . Just saying. BTW don't "Zmapp tobacco thingy take 4 months to grow "?

ceejayluv:
When pfizer tested some meningitis drugs in kano (with 10% fatality rate, they got their pants sued off to the tune of $75million . zmapp hadn't even reached that phase of human trials stage yet.
The Japanese flu drug, TKM ebola and the gsk vaccine are far ahead in the trial process, hence their approval for mass trials.

phreakabit:

He died but at least he got Zmapp right? The America doc got Zmapp as well as a 14 yrs old survivors blood won't it be cool if he donates blood too. . . No?

phreakabit:

Accusations and counter accusations, my point exactly. We all have strong opinions stemming from our various philosophies.

code11: and now we are dumping ground for untested drugs. made lab rats!!

all4naija:
Nobody knows if he was given ZMAPP before he died. But, there was evidence the drug was sent to Spain for the treatment of the Ebola infested priest. The American doctors got it in Africa before they were sent on intensive health care facility in Georgia for further treatment.

Oh, please. You are now trying to tell the well-read medical community on what to do with blood sample of a 14-year-old Ebola survived patient. I don't think you know a tad about the virus than them. Believe me, they must have thought or explore that notion you seem to bring into the argument. I personally know what you mean. That is to use the blood of the Ebola survivor to create a vaccine. But, it is not just like that. It takes more experience, experiments and medical hurdles to create a vaccine that would not become a weapon to patients in a case like this.

phreakabit:

If u weren't so erratic and irrationality hell bent on seeing me conform to Ur views you'd notice i stated the American male survivor got blood transfusion, why didnt he do same and donate blood, or why wasn't he allowed to? Btw ombre trust me the Spanish priest was given Zmapp. . . Google is Ur friend let's not get too emotional now.

all4naija:
You don't have to blame me for misreading what you mean by blood donation as for blood transfusion without elaborating on it, looking at the way you express yourself there. Indeed, it's a serum of the patient that was used for the doctor. If you are arguing from that angle there are those who survived the EVD in West Africa while the doctors still remain in USA. You are just looking for an avenue to accused them. These were the same people who worked tireless to save lives in Africa and got the disease through there yet you didn't compliment their effort than asking for their serum. You need to be kicked back to the forest, dude!

I think you need the Google search the most. Why don't you post your Google link against when the Nigerian health minister requested for the product?

phreakabit:

You ignorance knows no border and is becoming increasingly glaring. A fool turns a argument to a verbal altercation when his limited intelligence gets exhausted. Your entire post was incoherent and utterly abismal. You come across as an adolescent. Forgive me if you are not, but then again. . . That just proves that physical growth is inevitable, mental growth is however optional. BTW, couldn't understand what you were driving at with the blood tranfussion, donation gibberish. I guess that's something only you knows. I consider your post a rant!

all4naija:
Alright! I say to you, buzz off, housefly!

phreakabit:

Back to flipping burgers at Mickey D's for you bro. . . breaks over!

Hehehe... I like the way you assume things, primitive man!

all4naija:
Not true. Nobody turned Nigeria down. The reason was clear, they didn't have enough ZMAPP in production. They likely gave the remaining ones to treat Ebola patients in Liberia and other places where the situation was worse than the one in Nigeria.

all4naija:
You are lying! I followed the news. The one that was given to the priest was done before Nigeria health minister even requested for any. The remaining ones were forwarded to Liberia, etc. The priest you are pointing to died at the end. What is your skewed view all about though?

ceejayluv:
When pfizer tested some meningitis drugs in kano (with 10% fatality rate, they got their pants sued off to the tune of $75million . zmapp hadn't even reached that phase of human trials stage yet.
The Japanese flu drug, TKM ebola and the gsk vaccine are far ahead in the trial process, hence their approval for mass trials.

all4naija:
Nobody knows if he was given ZMAPP before he died. But, there was evidence the drug was sent to Spain for the treatment of the Ebola infested priest. The American doctors got it in Africa before they were sent on intensive health care facility in Georgia for further treatment.

Oh, please. You are now trying to tell the well-read medical community on what to do with blood sample of a 14-year-old Ebola survived patient. I don't think you know a tad about the virus than them. Believe me, they must have thought or explore that notion you seem to bring into the argument. I personally know what you mean. That is to use the blood of the Ebola survivor to create a vaccine. But, it is not just like that. It takes more experience, experiments and medical hurdles to create a vaccine that would not become a weapon to patients in a case like this.

ceejayluv:
There are procedures in doing certain things.... if it were a Hollywood flick, the cure would have popped up overnight and administered without thorough trials... This is reality. The reason you are so mad at the West is cos you thought ebola was an automatic death sentence, of which a simple googling would have calmed your nerves.
Obama said we need to focus on medical infrastructure, containment measures and supportive care - all which are the reason we've had a low fatality rate so far.

President Barack Obama said: "I don't
think all the information is in on
whether this drug is helpful. What we
do know is that the ebola virus - both
currently and in the past - is
controllable if you have strong public
health infrastructure in place.
"Let's get all the health workers that
we need on the ground. Let's help to
bolster the systems that they already
have in place.
"And then during the course of that
process, I think it's entirely
appropriate for us to see if there are
additional drugs or medical
treatments that can improve the
survivability of what is a very deadly
and obviously brutal disease."

thegoodjoehunt3: If you actually followed the news, President Obama's reply was to the Nigerian government. WHO members sat after the Obama speech and the a sample was released for the Spanish Priest. The Nigerian government reached out before the Spanish government.

thegoodjoehunt3: WHO members already proved his logic was wrong. If it was his daughters infected, do you think President Obama would care for procedures?

Davijunson: I hope this drug works so dat America will be put to shame.

all4naija:
The Spanish priest died on Tuesday and Patrick Sawyer died in Lagos on Thursday of the same week. How is possible Nigerian health minister requested for the drug before the Spanish? It has affected handful of people before the plan to get the drug. Please, stop assuming sh*t!

phreakabit:

You ignorance knows no border and is becoming increasingly glaring. A fool turns a argument to a verbal altercation when his limited intelligence gets exhausted. Your entire post was incoherent and utterly abismal. You come across as an adolescent. Forgive me if you are not, but then again. . . That just proves that physical growth is inevitable, mental growth is however optional. BTW, couldn't understand what you were driving at with the blood tranfussion, donation gibberish. I guess that's something only you know about. I consider your post a rant!