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Re: Your Opinions: Can Innoson Compete With Giants Like Toyota & KIA In Nigeria? by ba7man(m): 3:02am On Sep 09, 2014 |
ROSSIKE:Alfaseltzer just revealed a Chinese clone which showed that Innoson vehicles aren't their design. 250000 cars in 6yrs time? That's truly a lofty target. 1 Like |
Re: Your Opinions: Can Innoson Compete With Giants Like Toyota & KIA In Nigeria? by Nobody: 6:30am On Sep 09, 2014 |
DStarrx: I believe the three points made above. (1) IVM should pay attention to quality control and be known for it (2) IVM should grow past the sole propietorship and make the company publicly funded. (3)IVM should greatly be interested and involved in competitive adverstising. And awareness programs. This additional two pionts should also be important to them (1)IVM should look forward to siezing, not only the Nigerian market, but the whole of Africa. (2)IVM should be greatly and heavily involved in skill acquistion promotion in Nigeria or even Africa. Infact IVM should have Labs for both the scientists and technologist and also for emerging students! 1 Like |
Re: Your Opinions: Can Innoson Compete With Giants Like Toyota & KIA In Nigeria? by Nobody: 6:47am On Sep 09, 2014 |
AlfaSeltzer: Attaching your badge on another man's car does not mean you made it.It doesn't mean nothing. Honda crosstur have the shape as a model of Ford and Acura(can't remember the model name). What about the hummer buses. Can you tell the different between Toyota and it NISSAN counterpart? |
Re: Your Opinions: Can Innoson Compete With Giants Like Toyota & KIA In Nigeria? by Okeikpu(m): 7:02am On Sep 09, 2014 |
nzeBiddle: RoFL ..clown. Even your moniker sef na heleleBoy! U no dey respect ur elders ? Ima kwa na mu na nna gi bu agemate |
Re: Your Opinions: Can Innoson Compete With Giants Like Toyota & KIA In Nigeria? by talima(m): 7:14am On Sep 09, 2014 |
tdayof:please say we get what dealers asked for. |
Re: Your Opinions: Can Innoson Compete With Giants Like Toyota & KIA In Nigeria? by Nobody: 7:29am On Sep 09, 2014 |
MadCow1: The question should be; Can China compete with Korean and Japanese cars..I doubt you, this where hard work and patronise should come in....when you believe something can be achieved then I don't see any barrier to that. And also we Nigerians should patronize and support them. 1 Like |
Re: Your Opinions: Can Innoson Compete With Giants Like Toyota & KIA In Nigeria? by AlfaSeltzer(m): 7:41am On Sep 09, 2014 |
Mee234: all these brands you quoted have something in common: they all can conceive, design and produce cars. Innoson can only assemble already manufactured parts. 1 Like |
Re: Your Opinions: Can Innoson Compete With Giants Like Toyota & KIA In Nigeria? by Nobody: 7:53am On Sep 09, 2014 |
AlfaSeltzer:You know this how? Have you asked innoson himself and you were told he can not conceive and implement a design? Or u think he can not because he is a Nigerian. Wouldn't that make you a presumption person making assertions base on what you think and feel instead of fact? 4 Likes |
Re: Your Opinions: Can Innoson Compete With Giants Like Toyota & KIA In Nigeria? by MadCow1: 7:55am On Sep 09, 2014 |
grocery: Making money is Hard.. So spending money should be done with the head and not on sentiments.. If I wouldnt buy a KIA right now (as a first or second or third option), I wouldnt touch an Innoson with a long stick. The trick is all in the depreciation.. If in doubt, check out all those who bought Sangyong (or something like that) when it first came into Nigeria and go look at those vehicles today and compare them with their same year counterparts from other Japanese and Korean models and see for yourself. If the product is tops, it would sell itself. 1 Like |
Re: Your Opinions: Can Innoson Compete With Giants Like Toyota & KIA In Nigeria? by tdayof(m): 8:06am On Sep 09, 2014 |
MadCow1:ssangyong motor company is Korean! |
Re: Your Opinions: Can Innoson Compete With Giants Like Toyota & KIA In Nigeria? by MadCow1: 8:23am On Sep 09, 2014 |
tdayof: Thanks for that.. Its really weird.. I have always thought them to be chinese cos their cars no get life span at all. 1 Like |
Re: Your Opinions: Can Innoson Compete With Giants Like Toyota & KIA In Nigeria? by tdayof(m): 8:30am On Sep 09, 2014 |
MadCow1:you are welcome. but seems German cars are still the best? my view tho' |
Re: Your Opinions: Can Innoson Compete With Giants Like Toyota & KIA In Nigeria? by MightySparrow: 9:00am On Sep 09, 2014 |
Toyota and kia have come a long way. However, if Igbo factor of 'substandard' does not come into the production, and Nigerian factor of 419 mentality is guided against, why not? For these factors, I will wait a while to see the durability and performance before I can put my money on any of its product. |
Re: Your Opinions: Can Innoson Compete With Giants Like Toyota & KIA In Nigeria? by bestym: 9:00am On Sep 09, 2014 |
AlfaSeltzer: Do you know that toyota and kia design their own cars?innosson does not just stamp his badge on someone else's vehicle if that is what u are implying |
Re: Your Opinions: Can Innoson Compete With Giants Like Toyota & KIA In Nigeria? by AlfaSeltzer(m): 9:20am On Sep 09, 2014 |
Mee234: Oh, he can do that alright. But he doesn't. 1 Like |
Re: Your Opinions: Can Innoson Compete With Giants Like Toyota & KIA In Nigeria? by AlfaSeltzer(m): 9:22am On Sep 09, 2014 |
bestym: innosson does not just stamp his badge on someone else's vehicle if that is what u are implying Oh yes he does. Google GAC motors, China. Check out their GONOW and TRUMPCHI brands. That's what innoson assembles in Nnewi and put his badges on. 1 Like |
Re: Your Opinions: Can Innoson Compete With Giants Like Toyota & KIA In Nigeria? by saviola77(m): 9:25am On Sep 09, 2014 |
AlfaSeltzer: Do you know that toyota and kia design their own cars?You couldn't have put it any better. |
Re: Your Opinions: Can Innoson Compete With Giants Like Toyota & KIA In Nigeria? by MadCow1: 9:28am On Sep 09, 2014 |
tdayof: Thats why we never reference them.. The trick in most German cars is that they are built with a target clientel in mind. Japanese, Korean, Indian and Chinese cars are built to be cheap and reach a very wide market. Now because its cheap, that means they have to keep production cost to the very minimum and what they tend to sacrifice to achieve this is quality and durability.. Thats why their cars have a very short half-life. And thats why maost of those cars dont ever find their way into the U.S and most big European markets.. |
Re: Your Opinions: Can Innoson Compete With Giants Like Toyota & KIA In Nigeria? by tdayof(m): 9:32am On Sep 09, 2014 |
MadCow1: interesting and a nice point |
Re: Your Opinions: Can Innoson Compete With Giants Like Toyota & KIA In Nigeria? by Nobody: 9:33am On Sep 09, 2014 |
MadCow1:you are talking from your own personal interest. That you wont buy it doesn't mean others wouldn't. I see IVM in a greater height tomorrow. |
Re: Your Opinions: Can Innoson Compete With Giants Like Toyota & KIA In Nigeria? by londoner: 9:33am On Sep 09, 2014 |
Yes they can, over time if they innovate and do not rest on their laurels. It is especially so, with the new Vehicle policy from the government which will give Nigeria made cars an advantage. Its a plus for Nigeria, either Innoson will gain and have to produce a good product, or foreign companies will hve to set up shop in Nigeria. Win win. |
Re: Your Opinions: Can Innoson Compete With Giants Like Toyota & KIA In Nigeria? by londoner: 9:42am On Sep 09, 2014 |
MadCow1: Actually, Toyota, Nissan, KIA are quite common in the European markets. They are not in the top 10, but they are in the market and quite common. I don't know about the US, but that's because the US promotes buying US products, or what is "perceived" to be US made......lol http://www.best-selling-cars.com/europe/2013-full-year-europe-best-selling-car-manufacturers-brands/ |
Re: Your Opinions: Can Innoson Compete With Giants Like Toyota & KIA In Nigeria? by MadCow1: 9:45am On Sep 09, 2014 |
grocery: Thats why I didnt base my post on emotions.. IVM.. Whats the safety rating on those cars?! Whats the depreciation rate? |
Re: Your Opinions: Can Innoson Compete With Giants Like Toyota & KIA In Nigeria? by omar22(m): 9:47am On Sep 09, 2014 |
mickyarams: Volkswagen is the parent company of Audi BMW owns the Mini Open, Vauxhaull and Chevy are all part of the GM group 1 Like |
Re: Your Opinions: Can Innoson Compete With Giants Like Toyota & KIA In Nigeria? by tyor: 9:48am On Sep 09, 2014 |
Inno-fire.....The fact that this guy dines with the government gives no credence to his company and his products. I do NOT think any company whether foreign or local can be closely knit with Nigerian government and maintain quality. If you want to test your product, try and operate with the private sector driven market in Nigeria, and come and show us the results over time. Econet/Vmobile/celtel/Zain/Airtel in Nigeria can testify of how private sector led businesses aspire growth. |
Re: Your Opinions: Can Innoson Compete With Giants Like Toyota & KIA In Nigeria? by MadCow1: 9:50am On Sep 09, 2014 |
londoner: Toyota, Nissans, KIA's and co are indeed in the american market.. Not all their ranges and even the ones that do are built to spec for the American market. Thats why a Sienna brought in from Yankee and one brought in from Asia are different in spec. America would not allow cars that dont have a certain level of quality and safety rating into their market. 2 Likes |
Re: Your Opinions: Can Innoson Compete With Giants Like Toyota & KIA In Nigeria? by londoner: 9:54am On Sep 09, 2014 |
Well, I take back what I said about the US, it seems Honda, Kia and Toyota and Nissan are doing even better in the US, than Europe. Their cars made the top ten for sales in 2013. It shows you that perception and fact are not always the same. Yet the former is more powerful. Innoson should take note of this human factor. http://www.mlive.com/auto/index.ssf/2014/01/americas_top_20_best-selling_v.html |
Re: Your Opinions: Can Innoson Compete With Giants Like Toyota & KIA In Nigeria? by omar22(m): 9:55am On Sep 09, 2014 |
princefunmi: They are not killing NOTHING!!!!! Kia is there but in the small car, Hatch back, 5 doors, Sedan, estate, Luxury or coupe... Kia is nowhere near dominating any of those market. They might make one model that wins best small car of the year but it doesnt mean they are dominating that market. Do you know how long the "Corolla" dominated the small car industry before the Volkswagen Golf moved in? |
Re: Your Opinions: Can Innoson Compete With Giants Like Toyota & KIA In Nigeria? by londoner: 9:56am On Sep 09, 2014 |
MadCow1: Ok, but you kind of presented it as if you wont see those brands in Europe or the US? |
Re: Your Opinions: Can Innoson Compete With Giants Like Toyota & KIA In Nigeria? by omar22(m): 9:57am On Sep 09, 2014 |
ba7man: @alfa szeltzer just busted the whole Innoson propaganda. Volkswage took over Skoda and Seat and continue to run those firms and supplied parts and engines and modified designs |
Re: Your Opinions: Can Innoson Compete With Giants Like Toyota & KIA In Nigeria? by Nobody: 10:04am On Sep 09, 2014 |
MadCow1: Lexus, Honda, Toyota, Acura, Infiniti, Hyundai, they are Japanese and Korean brand, they don't come cheap depending on the model, trim level and option installed. They are well built they are more reliable and durable than most European and American brand. They don't cut corners during production Lexus for one is produced in Tahara plant which is the most robotized and most computerized manufacturing plant in the world today, They even sell much more units than the over glorified European marques. Why are they durable, reliable and sell more? Pls let's not bring in racism or other form of sentiments into this highly interesting topic. Thanks. |
Re: Your Opinions: Can Innoson Compete With Giants Like Toyota & KIA In Nigeria? by Nobody: 10:07am On Sep 09, 2014 |
AlfaSeltzer:Just as Acura, Honda and Ford can have the capacity to do design but don't! You posting picture of similar products from different manufacturer does mean each don't have it own concept. Ketocolnazone have more than one manufacturer producing it. NB Innoson could send specification to those Chinese companies like others are doing. |
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