BABE3:


[img]http://.net/i/154.gif[/img]

Shirley07:
Case closed then.
By the way, I don't plan to concede to you.

that was meant to be conceive, mumu!

honestly, you do a big disservice to women when you reason like a slug. women willingly seek polygamy these days due to their age, infertility, house chores, etc. so how is polygamy anti-women?

ayinba1: @lastpage
Thank you. I hope all contributors actually read what you posted.

Just curious,

Are you a second wife or a child of one

or

Are you male?

You will make a very good ambassador of polygamy

coogar:

that was meant to be conceive, mumu!

honestly, you do a big disservice to women when you reason like a slug. women willingly seek polygamy these days due to their age, infertility, house chores, etc. so how is polygamy anti-women?

Yeye dey smell for your body.
That said, I don't intend repeating myself cos the reason is already in my previous post. If you can't digest it, you can as well regurgitate it. That's what you do better by the way.

@lastpage:

Good day

If God wanted polygamy, He would have created Adam and Eve. Adam saw Eve and said.. 'the bone of my bone and the flesh of my flesh'....

The fact tha David, Jacob etc. married multiple wives and God still loved them does not mean He approved of what they did. These people were not Christians and are not the role model of Christians. David killed, Abraham lied, Jacod cheated etc. should we say that those stuffs are not sins? If we say they were punished, what was the punishment for Abraham's lie? Issac did same years later and there was 'seemingly' no punishment too

Samson slept with a w.h.ore before uprooting the gates of Gaza through the strenght of God even though he met his doom later. What punishment did we see for Samson sleeping with her? He was warned as a narazene not to marry a non-Israelite but he did and what was the punishment?

Divorce was very common in the old testament even though it was not the will of God and He said so in the new testament.

God still uses some pastors even with their shortcomings. We have the case of Karthlyn Kulhman a powerful evangelist in the 70s. She married a divorcee (who left his wife because of her) and stayed with him for about 7yrs while she was still preaching and miracles happening till she repented and left him.

There is a perfect will of God known to Christians when they have the Holy Spirit. The Bible doesnot mention Indecency.graphy, pedophil.e or smoking but every believer knows that it is wrong.

Shirley07:
Yeye dey smell for your body.
That said, I don't intend repeating myself cos the reason is already in my previous post. If you can't digest it, you can as well regurgitate it. That's what you do better by the way.

comot for here.....world class mumu!
i don't even understand how you intend to convince anyone that you are smart.

your intelligence has the showmanship of a doughnut.

coogar:

comot for here.....world class mumu!
i don't even understand how you intend to convince anyone that you are smart.

your intelligence has the showmanship of a doughnut.

I'am and I know it. That's one conviction.

Shirley07:
I'am and I know it. That's one conviction.

what was your CGPA in that useless state polytechnic you attended?

coogar:

what was your CGPA in that useless state polytechnic you attended?

When you deem it fit to give me a reply on the specie of ruminant you're, I'll tell you.

bukatyne:

How did your father marry his polygamous lifestyle with his religion (Christianity)?

The Bible frowns against it and been the husband of one wife is a mandatory pre-requisite for becoming an elder

i wonder.
what would his advice to young christiqns be?

bukatyne:

The bible recorded God created Adam and Eve... For this reason shall a man leave his father and mother and cleave to his wife and the twain shall become one flesh Gen 2:24

The bible does not mention smoking, pornography, etc but any christian with the Holy Ghost knows that it is wrong

My dear, no where is it mentioned in the bible that it is forbidden. hence, you cant overrule it. its as simple as saying since Jesus the son of mary didnt marry, hence marrying is a sin! pls dont bring out doctrines that is not in the bible. If you dislike something, simply say you dislike it!.Thanks
Jesus said "in vain do they worship me, teaching as doctrines the commandments of men" Matthew 15:9

dastranger:

My dear, no where is it mentioned in the bible that it is forbidden. henceforth, you cant overrule it

Maybe it is written in the Nigerian bible that polygamy is a sin

pickabeau1:

i no fear bros ....

na strong person materially n spiritually dey marry more than one wife ... but i love d insight so far into the mind of some women albeit even the so-called educated and empowered ones...

You never know what lurks deep within

I'm with you on this.

bukatyne:

Just curious,

Are you a second wife or a child of one

or

Are you male?

You will make a very good ambassador of polygamy

No I am neither, just a respecter of differences and a student of sensitivity even when I differ.

I am not an ambassador of polygamy, I am of the strong opinion that it is not the worst thing that could happen to a woman in a marriage, and for that reason, I have to open my eyes to see what good could come out of it. It is an attitude thing. Some can choose to see the worst that could come out of it, but to each his own.

Now, are you married, single or planning to be either?

ayinba1:

No I am neither, just a respecter of differences and a student of sensitivity even when I differ.

I am not an ambassador of polygamy, I am of the strong opinion that it is not the worst thing that could happen to a woman in a marriage, and for that reason, I have to open my eyes to see what good could come out of it. It is an attitude thing. Some can choose to see the worst that could come out of it, but to each his own.

Now, are you married, single or planning to be either?

you are a muslim. That is why you support polygamy...dont spin nonsense here like you are looking at it from a reasonable point of view.

mtchew

thandii1:

I do not support polygamy, neither am I against it as long as all the parties involved do not have issues with it. What I just find interesting about this post of yours is that you want to believe there's no happy polygamous home and choose to ignore the testimonies of those who have had good ones to focus only on those who have experienced bad ones. Remember the purpose of the thread is not about condemning polygamy, or tell which ideology is inferior, you can start another thread for that debate. we all can argue from now till eternity, but it will not stop polygamy as many women still willingly accept to marry other women's husbands irrespective of their religion or cultural beliefs.

The only polygamy close to me (apart from that of my grandparents which I don't care about) is that of a distant aunt who is a christian, she divorced her first husband with 2kids and willingly agreed to be a second wife to a man who was having child bearing issues with his wife. The wife was not aware till my aunt's edd was close. Did I hate my aunt for ruining another woman's happiness, yes, but if she didn't, another woman would have glady accepted.

At the end of the day, the fault of polygamy rests on we women's shoulders because we encourage it. If women detest polygamy so much, we wouldn't have hundreds of women happy to be side chics , baby mamas and second wives to married men, thereby hurting women like them. We can only speak for ourselves

The party that deserves the 'pity' is the first wife for the betrayal in a situation where she didn't sign up for it(religion or what what) but at the end of the day, she also has a choice to stay or not.

That being said, Op, I m still hoping you'd come back.

Tell me what a good polygamous house looks like? A woman being satisfied when her husband is sleeping with another woman?

The first wife runs the risk of losing the house/assets she built with her husband if she dies to another wife
The second wife runs the risk of being treated as lesser being to another woman in her husband's house.



If you say that we see polygamy around because women like it......
one then can argue that we see prostitution because women like it......


You forget that men too are a part of polygamy.....

lastpage:

Thank you for being HONEST! It is not a virtue you find in most people nowadays!

A lot of men are murdered by their so-called wife using gradual poisoning and it remains UNKNOWN, especially in Nigeria where most deaths are NEVER investigated for HOMICIDE! We are just too carefree and unconcerned about loss of lives.

But let me say that MURDER is MURDER! It is never justified by killing your victim.
"MURDERERS" DESERVE TO ROT IN JAIL; MAN OR WOMAN

If you dont like your husband any more because he decides to marry an "extra" wife, you and every woman is at LIBERTY TO DIVORCE HIM! That is why l will always be a proponent of DIVORCE, if differences are deep and cannot be reconciled. ...(though not just for willy-nilly purposes or just for the sake of Greed ala money and property!)

To resort to murder of your spouse not only shows your own "VERY INNATE NATURE" ....(you know you never can really know your spouse when everything is going good and dandy!.. But suffer a calamity like loss of work/income, let him/her come into sudden MONEY or POWER or let UNHAPPY EVENTS like Cheating/Second wife/Divorce come into the picture.... and the TRUE NATURE of your SPOUSE will start rearing its head.... and what a UGLY HEAD you will face!) .....
But also shows that you yourself are no better than the person you killed! You have no moral advantage at all.

Lets take the easier and more moral route, if we find ourselves in a situation were we cannot resolve ANY DIFFERENCE(S) with our spouse.

SEPARATE... GET A DIVORCE after, if you need to re-marry and was previously legally married.

Lastpage!

Lol! Women in Nigeria will happily divorce with the right financial settlement. If I quit my career to be a primary Home-giver (a role which saves money for the family) and 10 yrs down the line, hubby decides to get a 2nd wife, I'll leave, once he settles me financially for the fact that I was deprived of working for 10 years and building my own financial independence. Settle me, settle something on any children we may have, I'll leave peaceably.


Most selfish men, however, want a 2nd wife, will tell 1st wife to leave with nothing (after years of sacrifice) and will complain of being "afraid of women attacking him". Hilarious.

Shirley07:
Shior!
What did Matt 19:4-5 says?
Learn what it means to be a christian before coming here to spout rubbish. Nonsense!

Please read the CAVEAT at the very bottom my post, it was meant for 'something' like YOU!

if you want to "share knowledge'' with me, you need to FIRST and FOREMOST, purge yourself of that your "gutter upbringing and mouth-foaming rabidness", calm down and spew intelligence based on knowledge..... then come back and we can exchange posts.

For now, l am not in your league! YOU can take that to the bank


Lastpage

Onegai:

Lol! Women in Nigeria will happily divorce with the right financial settlement. If I quit my career to be a primary Home-giver (a role which saves money for the family) and 10 yrs down the line, hubby decides to get a 2nd wife, I'll leave, once he settles me financially for the fact that I was deprived of working for 10 years and building my own financial independence. Settle me, settle something on any children we may have, I'll leave peaceably.


Most selfish men, however, want a 2nd wife, will tell 1st wife to leave with nothing (after years of sacrifice) and will complain of being "afraid of women attacking him". Hilarious.

True talk

bukatyne: @lastpage:

Good day

If God wanted polygamy, He would have created Adam and Eve. Adam saw Eve and said.. 'the bone of my bone and the flesh of my flesh'....

The fact tha David, Jacob etc. married multiple wives and God still loved them does not mean He approved of what they did. These people were not Christians and are not the role model of Christians. David killed, Abraham lied, Jacod cheated etc. should we say that those stuffs are not sins? If we say they were punished, what was the punishment for Abraham's lie? Issac did same years later and there was 'seemingly' no punishment too

Thank you Maam, for your post!

Let me ask the reverse of that question since God did not expressly say HE HATES POLYGAMY: IF God hates Polygamy, why would he call a POLYGAMIST, "The Apple of my eye"... regarding David?

If God hates Polygamy, why would he refer to a Polygamist like Abraham, the father of all nations?
Why would he speak "One-on-One" with a Polygamist like Moses?
If God hates Polygamy, why would he say of a Polygamist like Solomon, "All these things, l would give thee like l will give no other, wisdom, wealth, health and long life"?

My point is: We cannot conclude that God does not sanction polygamy is HE did not criticise it but the fact that HE loved and blessed Polygamist, says something about HIS TOLERANCE/APPROVAL of them, ...at the minimum! Who then are we mere mortals, to think we are more righteous than our creator?

Yes, God punished some of this great men of God, for "other things" they did that was wrong.
For example, David cheated with the wife of another man (that is not Polygamy, it is adultery!) and arraigned the murder of the husband!
That was core evil, in the eyes of God. That was why he was punished, not because of his Polygamist lifestyle.

bukatyne: Samson slept with a w.h.ore before uprooting the gates of Gaza through the strenght of God even though he met his doom later. What punishment did we see for Samson sleeping with her? He was warned as a narazene not to marry a non-Israelite but he did and what was the punishment?

Divorce was very common in the old testament even though it was not the will of God and He said so in the new testament.

God still uses some pastors even with their shortcomings. We have the case of Karthlyn Kulhman a powerful evangelist in the 70s. She married a divorcee (who left his wife because of her) and stayed with him for about 7yrs while she was still preaching and miracles happening till she repented and left him.

[b]There is a perfect will of God known to Christians when they have the Holy Spirit. [/b]The Bible doesnot mention Indecency.graphy, pedophil.e or smoking but every believer knows that it is wrong.

The new testament is actually a fulfilment of the Old, as Jesus said -- "I have not come to abolish the Old testament ... but to fulfil it".
Yes, some things were "modified" in the NEW but the overriding principle of the new testament still remains "Do unto others as you will want them to do unto you" --- In other words, "Love thy neighbour as thy self".

There are loads of things that are not "expressly mentioned" in the Bible as well, that are of good use to us today - Even Jesus (as of the new testament) never spread the Good News using Private Jets but today, hardly will you see a "Man of God" without a Jet!

We all read our Bibles on Tablets in Church nowadays but even Jesus had no Tablet! Can we now say doing so is a sin?

There is a "Moral code" ... and there is a "spiritual code" for all Christians.
Both do not conflict but we must agree that the "moral code" was put in place by humans (e.g, incest was practised widely in Biblical times, brothers married sisters )- but morally, we have come to "agree and make laws" to STOP IT ..... spiritually, it was never a sin!

Homosexuality which is now becoming "morally" acceptable, was condemned back then! It was and still remains a spiritual sin till tomorrow!
Ditto polygamy; It is NOT a spiritual sin (something ordered by God) .. but as l highlighted before, The British and the wider "Western World" have adopted it as a "moral wrong-doing"... for reasons adduced earlier viz property sharing and attendant greed.... but l disagree that we say because God created only Eve, he wanted the man to marry just one wife!


Thing is, God (can) only create a FIRST, of every living thing and expects that "PROCREATION ABILITY" (which HE gave them), will multiply them.
Even animals were created that way... how come Bingo my Dog they flex for all the neighbourhood bitches and im never do no wrong!

Cheers,

Lastpage!

lastpage:

Thank you Maam, for your post!

Let me ask the reverse of that question since God did not expressly say HE HATES POLYGAMY: IF God hates Polygamy, why would he call a POLYGAMIST, "The Apple of my eye"... regarding David?

If God hates Polygamy, why would he refer to a Polygamist like Abraham, the father of all nations?
Why would he speak "One-on-One" with a Polygamist like Moses?
If God hates Polygamy, why would he say of a Polygamist like Solomon, "All these things, l would give thee like l will give no other, wisdom, wealth, health and long life"?

My point is: We cannot conclude that God does not sanction polygamy is HE did not criticise it but the fact that HE loved and blessed Polygamist, says something about HIS TOLERANCE/APPROVAL of them, ...at the minimum! Who then are we mere mortals, to think we are more righteous than our creator?

We all read our Bibles on Tablets in Church nowadays but even Jesus had no Tablet! Can we now say doing so is a sin?

Cheers,

Lastpage!

I've bn observing you. waa gbayi.. you too dey make sense logically. Things God did not forbid, but because of our selfish interest, we forbade them and make it like God forbade them.

logicboy01:


you are a muslim. That is why you support polygamy...dont spin nonsense here like you are looking at it from a reasonable point of view.

mtchew

Lol. You should seek professional help. Yes I am a muslim and all the other that I described in my post. Can you grasp that?

lastpage:

Please read the CAVEAT at the very bottom my post, it was meant for 'something' like YOU!

if you want to "share knowledge'' with me, you need to FIRST and FOREMOST, purge yourself of that your "gutter upbringing and mouth-foaming rabidness", calm down and spew intelligence based on knowledge..... then come back and we can exchange posts.

For now, l am not in your league! YOU can take that to the bank


Lastpage

Huh? Shior!
You think we're kids that's expected to swallow your gibberish?
I repeat if you don't know what it means to be a christian, say so and stop writing long epistle for us, it aint making sense. Last page ko, first page ni. Double shior!

ayinba1:

Lol. You should seek professional help. Yes I am a muslim and all the other that I described in my post. Can you grasp that?

stop replying that troll.
he cannot see beyond the religion factor so his logic is highly-spruced. i am 100% christian & fully support polygamy. there's nowhere in the bible it was ever condemned.

the only thing spoken about it was bishops/deacons being a husband of one wife & that means they are the only ones exempted from having more than a wife.....which is even debatable cos paul was just giving his opinion.

so how's polygamy strictly an islamic thing like illogical boy is asserting?

dastranger:

I've bn observing you. waa gbayi.. you too dey make sense logically. Things God did not forbid, but because of our selfish interest, we forbade them and make it like God forbade them.

Exactly....

Making traditions of men to be scripture..

Implication and not explicit..
.

Thou shall not steal.....explicit
Thou shall not kill.... Explicit

The verse on putting wives away was on divorce ..explicit

Maybe the verse outlawing polygamy is in the Nigerian bible..

coogar:

stop replying that troll.
he cannot see beyond the religion factor so his logic is highly-spruced. i am 100% christian & fully support polygamy. there's nowhere in the bible it was ever condemned.

the only thing spoken about it was bishops/deacons being a husband of one wife & that means they are the only ones exempted from having more than a wife.....which is even debatable cos paul was just giving his opinion.

so how's polygamy strictly an islamic thing like illogical boy is asserting?

What God has joined together, let no man put asunder... That's what Jesus commanded.

Shirley07:
What God has joined together, let no man put asunder... That's what Jesus commanded.

christ on a bike!
jesus was talking about the structure of marriage i.e. the indissolubility of a man and his wife within a marriage, whether it be monogamous or polygamous.

coogar:

christ on a bike!
jesus was talking about the structure of marriage i.e. the indissolubility of a man and his wife within a marriage, whether it be monogamous or polygamous.

When feminist quote Bible.. U know the world is soon coming to an end

Is it not the same bible that says women should submit to their husbands..

pickabeau1:

When feminist quote Bible.. U know the world is soon coming to an end

Is it not the same bible that says women should submit to their husbands..

shirley na feminist?
come on, she's been disturbing me since last week to get her a blackberry phone. does that one even know what feminism is all about? unless feminism is giving out free puff-puff, she cannot be interested.

coogar:

christ on a bike!
jesus was talking about the structure of marriage i.e. the indissolubility of a man and his wife within a marriage, whether it be monogamous or polygamous.

Wrong.
You forgot what he said before that statement was made 'A man shall cleave to his wife and the two shall become one flesh'- Matt 19:5-6.

pickabeau1:

When feminist quote Bible.. U know the world is soon coming to an end

Is it not the same bible that says women should submit to their husbands..

I imbibe Christ doctrine. Is that too much for you?

coogar:

shirley na feminist?
come on, she's been disturbing me since last week to get her a blackberry phone. does that one even know what feminism is all about? unless feminism is giving out free puff-puff, she cannot be interested.

You forget say feminism dey give free puff-puff, so I'm in.