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Re: Nigeria's 'megachurches': A Hidden Pillar Of Africa's Top Economy by flexing11(m): 5:31pm On Oct 12, 2014
omoiseselagba:
so imushin symbolises hooliganism and thugery abi? Did u say someone called you a fool? Dat guy is correct.
i never said mushin symbolises hooliganism i know u dont even know how to read and understand'you wasted fellow inshort u are just like yesterday!
Re: Nigeria's 'megachurches': A Hidden Pillar Of Africa's Top Economy by datribune: 5:40pm On Oct 12, 2014
GlorifiedTunde:


So u believe you're smarter than the millions of intellectuals and business magnates who still attend the Churches and still keep paying their tithes and offerings. You do not sit down and analytically try to examine why why these people keep giving their monies despite they're being robbed. Who goes back to a con after being duped by such? Na u wise pass the hundreds of millions who don't care if you will join them or not abi? You don't even know that its the small fraction of you who don't believe that come here to spew rubbish. YOUR DETRIMENT MAN!





Well FYI, in my life I have never come across anyone who pays tithes because he/she is scared. And don't think they're deceived too - no pastor needs to tell me to pay my tithe. Its in the Bible, I have read it, God has blessed me more for it. If you can't reason that out even by the law of nature - sowing and reaping; that's your business.

FINAL SUBMISSION.

If you don't believe in tithing and offering...


1. If you're an atheist,
I don't blame you for not understanding; you don't believe in God or religion before

2. If you're a Muslim
, I don't blame you too. You cannot understand the deep things of the spirit revealed to Christians in the Holy Bible



3. If you call yourself a Christian and speak against tithing and offering;
I'm sure you know the truth and what the Bible says. You're just castigating because you have not been faithful in doing it. Its only natural that a prostit*ute will claim the Bible didn't mandate us to be virgin. Its just GUILTY CONSCIENCE!
And if you say its not in the Bible, well you lack knowledge then. Even the Bible says my people (Christians) perish for lack of knowledge. I really pity you pass.

THOSE GIVING ARE NOT COMPLAINING, AND IT IA NOT YOUR MONEY EITHER - what is your business then. Simply don't give and enjoy your own life!


Don't get it twisted, being a business magnate or an intellectual or being smart doesn't mean u can not fall victim to a scam. Do u know how many business magnates, intellectuals & smart people fell victim to d con man Bernie Madoff? As 4 why people keep going back? It is because it is a scam. That's d nature of scams. I advice u to sit down & analytically study d nature of scams - people keep going back. They exploit u & make u feel good about d same oppression. It is one of those ironies - suffering & smilling. Unlike what u think, their antics ar daily being exposed. Some ar even under scrutiny in foreign lands. It is to d glory of d Almighty & thanks to their rapacious greed & unchristly lifestyles dat more & more people ar getting wiser by d day to d antics of dis gods of men. I know dat God & His son will not allow dis gods of men to continue to bring shame on d body of christ through one scandal or another. Should this con men who hav brought shame & unprecedented division into d church refuse to change their love of lucre it won't be long till their public shame will come. As they thank heaven dat d world is full of suckers while smiling to d bank, it is our sacred duty to ask questions & try to free d brethren frm their mental slavery to dis gods of men.

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Re: Nigeria's 'megachurches': A Hidden Pillar Of Africa's Top Economy by tundabolt(m): 5:41pm On Oct 12, 2014
dhammyg:
NIGERIA:RICH PASTORS,POOR WOSHIPPERS cheesy

A COUNTRY THAT INVESTS MORE IN RELIGION THAN EDUCATION,SCIENCE&TECHNOLOGY WILL NEVER DEVELOPwink THE FUNNY THING IS THAT DESPITE ALL THE CHURCHES THE COUNTRY IS STILL CORRUPT&MORALLY BANKRUPT shocked

RELIGIOUS BUT UNGODLY PEOPLEangry
. You are ungodly not nigerians. I'm sure you don't know the definition of morality. Abuse the SYSTEM not the PEOPLE.
Re: Nigeria's 'megachurches': A Hidden Pillar Of Africa's Top Economy by tundabolt(m): 5:58pm On Oct 12, 2014
datribune:



Don't get it twisted, being a business magnate or an intellectual or being smart doesn't mean u can not fall victim to a scam. Do u know how many business magnates, intellectuals & smart people fell victim to d con man Bernie Madoff? As 4 why people keep going back? It is because it is a scam. That's d nature of scams. I advice u to sit down & analytically study d nature of scams - people keep going back. They exploit u & make u feel good about d same oppression. It is one of those ironies - suffering & smilling. Unlike what u think, their antics ar daily being exposed. Some ar even under scrutiny in foreign lands. It is to d glory of d Almighty & thanks to their rapacious greed & unchristly lifestyles dat more & more people ar getting wiser by d day to d antics of dis gods of men. I know dat God & His son will not allow dis gods of men to continue to bring shame on d body of christ through one scandal or another. Should this con men who hav brought shame & unprecedented division into d church refuse to change their love of lucre it won't be long till their public shame will come. As they thank heaven dat d world is full of suckers while smiling to d bank, it is our sacred duty to ask questions & try to free d brethren frm their mental slavery to dis gods of men.
. I too know be your problem. You talked about asking questions, so who have you asked? Have you asked God or have you consulted the bible? If you don't believe in tithing keep quiet and stop calling it a scam. Study how yams are cultivated and study nature itself that may practically teach you about tithing since you depend so much on nature to learn.

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Re: Nigeria's 'megachurches': A Hidden Pillar Of Africa's Top Economy by joseph1832(m): 6:16pm On Oct 12, 2014
flexing11:
you are very canal you are not spiritually inclined the things of the physical cannot understand the this of the spiritual you only have your physical eyes.
And that's why people like you are narrow minded and can never smell your own bullshit!.

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Re: Nigeria's 'megachurches': A Hidden Pillar Of Africa's Top Economy by joseph1832(m): 6:19pm On Oct 12, 2014
kjhova:


You may strongly believe what you wrote up here but the truth remains that you have no empirical evidence that this is true.

I can also say that the only reason why Nigeria is still united is because of the free oil still flowing from the Niger Delta.

How about that?
You are entitled to your own opinion just like I am entitled to mine. One thing I know for sure: ask anybody who experience the civil war and hear their account of it. I tell you, you'll never want to hear the word war again.

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Re: Nigeria's 'megachurches': A Hidden Pillar Of Africa's Top Economy by datribune: 6:21pm On Oct 12, 2014
tundabolt:
. I too know be your problem. You talked about asking questions, so who have you asked? Have you asked God or have you consulted the bible? If you don't believe in tithing keep quiet and stop calling it a scam. Study how yams are cultivated and study nature itself that may practically teach you about tithing since you depend so much on nature to learn.

It's u dat has d problem of 'I too know'. First u think because u ar an intellectual or a biz magnate u can't fall 4 a scam which is bullish*t. I never spoke against tithing. But there's something wrong in d church when dis men's lifestyles ar so manifestly unchrist-like. It is sad dat u think because dis pastors ar rich then nigerian Xtians ar rich. It couldn't be further frm d truth. It is ironical dat 5 nigerian pastors ar in d top 10 of d world's richest while a vast number of d brethren ar among d world's poorest. Or could it be dat dis wealthy pastors ar doing something right & their poor congregations ar doing something wrong?.

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Re: Nigeria's 'megachurches': A Hidden Pillar Of Africa's Top Economy by BERNIMOORE: 6:46pm On Oct 12, 2014
datribune:


It's u dat has d problem of 'I too know'. First u think because u ar an intellectual or a biz magnate u can't fall 4 a scam which is bullish*t. I never spoke against tithing. But there's something wrong in d church when dis men's lifestyles ar so manifestly unchrist-like. It is sad dat u think because dis pastors ar rich then nigerian Xtians ar rich. It couldn't be further frm d truth. It is ironical dat 5 nigerian pastors ar in d top 10 of d world's richest while a vast number of d brethren ar among d world's poorest. Or could it be dat dis wealthy pastors ar doing something right & their poor congregations ar doing something wrong?.

[size=14pt]kindly tell us what you think the mega-pastors are doing right which jesus would also do if giving a circumstance and which their poor members are doing wrong morality should be a guide in your response! i doubt if you can answer, because jesus will not consider criminal options, do you have an answer[/size]?
Re: Nigeria's 'megachurches': A Hidden Pillar Of Africa's Top Economy by flexing11(m): 6:55pm On Oct 12, 2014
joseph1832:

And that's why people like you are narrow minded and can never smell your own bullshit!.
narrow is the way that lead to life and broad is the way that lead to distruction you are already on the path to distruction;>
Re: Nigeria's 'megachurches': A Hidden Pillar Of Africa's Top Economy by kjhova(m): 7:20pm On Oct 12, 2014
joseph1832:
You are entitled to your own opinion just like I am entitled to mine. One thing I know for sure: ask anybody who experience the civil war and hear their account of it. I tell you, you'll never want to hear the word war again.


Thanks for finally supporting me. The easy oil money & the fear of war is the reason why Nigeria is still united. Definitely, the prayer of the church isn't what is keeping the nation together.
Re: Nigeria's 'megachurches': A Hidden Pillar Of Africa's Top Economy by joseph1832(m): 7:21pm On Oct 12, 2014
flexing11:
narrow is the way that lead to life and broad is the way that lead to distruction you are already on the path to distruction;>
As described by you right?. Please you lot should stop spreading your one sided story about things which you know not.

Riddle me this: Pastors are spiritual, and the spiritual supercede the physical, so tell me, how come this men of god have not been able to influence the spiritual so it can affect the physical in other to alleviate the sufferings of the masses?.

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Re: Nigeria's 'megachurches': A Hidden Pillar Of Africa's Top Economy by SailorXY: 7:45pm On Oct 12, 2014
chacoonder:
...so you are trying to tell me now that,that your empty coconut head is better that karl marx's..Isnt it?..lols
you are a donkey, you know nothing other than sucking any familiar name's dikk. you cant even defend your rabid infested copy and paste, mumu

#inferior vomit
Re: Nigeria's 'megachurches': A Hidden Pillar Of Africa's Top Economy by maylisa(f): 7:53pm On Oct 12, 2014
Germeeu:
u can never see a mosque that is owns by an imam. And in every mosque there is a committee that look into everything that comes in and go out of the mosque. All these so called millionaire pastors are founder and owner of their churches. Y re pastor adeboye and kumuyi re nt among the millionaires. Redeem has branches all over the world than most of their churches.
ok.
Re: Nigeria's 'megachurches': A Hidden Pillar Of Africa's Top Economy by Nobody: 7:54pm On Oct 12, 2014
Didnt the bible say something about giving 1/10th of ur earnings to God?? Are u a true christian??
daresma93:
Am aa christian bt dat does not implies I will b brainwash into parting with ny hard earned cash all in d name of tithe our lord JESUS christ has paid it all sad
Re: Nigeria's 'megachurches': A Hidden Pillar Of Africa's Top Economy by makazona(m): 8:07pm On Oct 12, 2014
ojimbo:
haba, na dem be the tithe collector nah

grin lolz
Re: Nigeria's 'megachurches': A Hidden Pillar Of Africa's Top Economy by FemoLondon: 8:21pm On Oct 12, 2014
How is this considered a "Hidden Pillar Of Africa's Top Economy"?? It is just making these institutions richer and richer. This seems to be the nonsense kind of economics people like sagamite preach as a result of his Ogbomosho School of business training cheesy
Re: Nigeria's 'megachurches': A Hidden Pillar Of Africa's Top Economy by Abimbola29(m): 8:52pm On Oct 12, 2014
The guy who wrote down this article is a muslim(Ahmed Aboulenein)the said Oyedepo you keep talking about does not clam to be the wealth he said will always tell you the chuch owns them,secondly Oyedepo has some other business outside pastoral work (he own an oil block or what you Nigerias call oil well)so why the hating go build or start your own church na!!!!park Well next
Re: Nigeria's 'megachurches': A Hidden Pillar Of Africa's Top Economy by beejaybanji: 9:01pm On Oct 12, 2014
Churching is a business enterprises for does wu make it so,but for heavenly sake is not. so I see no reason why government should proc- nose into d affairs of churches. Jonathan don't implement tax oooooh! Else u are bring in war to the nation........
Re: Nigeria's 'megachurches': A Hidden Pillar Of Africa's Top Economy by kjhova(m): 9:01pm On Oct 12, 2014
My christian friends, please let's be clear on the issues in debate here.

1) Govt. Tax: Should religious institutions who run commercial businesses pay company tax (35% of annual profits)?

If "all authority is given by God..." Then law abiding religious organisations are duty bound to pay tax on all income generating commercial activity.

2) Tithe: should christians pay tithe (10% of all income)?

This is not the topic of discussion.

3) Who should christians pay tithe to?

This is not the topic of discussion.

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Re: Nigeria's 'megachurches': A Hidden Pillar Of Africa's Top Economy by Nobody: 9:19pm On Oct 12, 2014
As i have severally proposed.
The FG should be up to its responsibilities.

Inaction does not make the problem go away.

The FG should simply make sure that all places of worship are owned and built be the FG.

Those already built should revert to the Govt and the pastors paid off.

All pastors, imam and priest paid by the FG.

In turn the tithes and offerings are owned by the Govt.

People called by God to preach His word would gladly preach since the real interest will be the salvation of the flock.

Pastors should be licenced by Govt through the ministry for religion and and national orientation or any ministry responsible for it.
Re: Nigeria's 'megachurches': A Hidden Pillar Of Africa's Top Economy by gfullmoon(m): 9:21pm On Oct 12, 2014
Tithe was meant for the Levites who had no inheritant nor property but rendered sacred service to God. Most pastors today own properties and are gainfully employed or self employed,so they don't qualify for ours Tithe.

Was Jesus Christ our Imitator a rich man?He borrowed a cot and even borrowed an Upper Chamber to have the Last Supper with His Disciples. Jesus preached about God's Kingdom not Wealth Creation most of our men of God preach. If they seriously belief in the Heaven the preach,wouldn't it be folly to amase properties and wealth on earth beyond subsistence.

No wonder Mahattan Ghandi has this to say,'' I love your Christ,but I hate your Christians''
Re: Nigeria's 'megachurches': A Hidden Pillar Of Africa's Top Economy by bolinchin: 9:26pm On Oct 12, 2014
emmymdk:
grin Church na money na...
Start your own, lets see how easy it is to get anointing and how much you will make
Re: Nigeria's 'megachurches': A Hidden Pillar Of Africa's Top Economy by Emma8043(m): 9:29pm On Oct 12, 2014
yuzjet:
Hmmmm.... And u expect me to read all that @OP. Summary please!
If you want to hide the truth from a typikal black man frm nigeria put it in writting...grin
Re: Nigeria's 'megachurches': A Hidden Pillar Of Africa's Top Economy by yuzjet(m): 9:42pm On Oct 12, 2014
Emma8043:
If you want to hide the truth from a typikal black man frm nigeria put it in writting...grin

For ur mind now, u don talk with sense? Mind u, ur comment above is just another comment.
Re: Nigeria's 'megachurches': A Hidden Pillar Of Africa's Top Economy by babeface3: 10:17pm On Oct 12, 2014
The west might not understand the significance of church in the lives of our people grin.
Re: Nigeria's 'megachurches': A Hidden Pillar Of Africa's Top Economy by Nobody: 10:22pm On Oct 12, 2014
GlorifiedTunde:
Success has much criticism, so is the Church of God.

When Christians were poor, no one said a word.

Now God has commanded wealth of nations into His Church as He prophesied in the scriptures, now they're hating.

Taxing the Church is double taxation. The members who pay tithes and offerings have already been taxed by the government.

And if you want to go ahead taxing religious groups, kindly include ifa priests, mosques and other temples - no exception.

Well OP you're not wrong at all noticing the Church is now very rich in Nigeria.

But all that list na fake, Oyedepo is worth far beyond all that, and baba Adeboye too I'm sure.

If your head is paining you because the Church is now rich, you will have to live with that headache for the rest of your life.

NB: These churches are the reason why Nigeria is still standing. Stop all Christians from praying, and Nigeria is gone. Do you think its because we're developed that Ebola was driven out?


Waow just waow. What a bleeping sneaky argument
Re: Nigeria's 'megachurches': A Hidden Pillar Of Africa's Top Economy by simdam500(m): 10:45pm On Oct 12, 2014
It africa most especially Nigeria... We claim whatever we own was provided to us by Alpha of which no one can question
Re: Nigeria's 'megachurches': A Hidden Pillar Of Africa's Top Economy by chacoonder(m): 10:50pm On Oct 12, 2014
SailorXY:

you are a donkey, you know nothing other than sucking any familiar name's dikk. you cant even defend your rabid infested copy and paste, mumu

#inferior vomit
..i just went through your signature now, and i realised you are truly a dumb coconut head.
Re: Nigeria's 'megachurches': A Hidden Pillar Of Africa's Top Economy by SailorXY: 11:01pm On Oct 12, 2014
chacoonder:
..i just went through your signature now, and i realised you are truly a dumb coconut head.
signature, that's all your gray matter could come up with?
get a life dude

Re: Nigeria's 'megachurches': A Hidden Pillar Of Africa's Top Economy by White007(m): 11:54pm On Oct 12, 2014
Churches have a right to exist, but they should be audited.
The tax exempt status should be pulled if they aren't spending 80% of their income on charity.
Re: Nigeria's 'megachurches': A Hidden Pillar Of Africa's Top Economy by chacoonder(m): 11:55pm On Oct 12, 2014
SailorXY:

signature, that's all your gray matter could come up with?
get a life dude
...see your dumb coconut head...hahahahahaha

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