kandiikane:


Blah blah phucking bullshyt. Keep talking shyt, the more you do the more you expose your wretched life. My point was made ages ago so I am done entertaining a goat!

red101:


You don't make any sense here. This is a choice that is not forced on anyone. So I don't understand why you are typing long pointless essay and giving yourself unnecessary headache. How did birth control pills impact health care provision? isn't the cost of paid maternity leave also borne somewhere? Please try to think logically. Women are making the choice to post-pone child birth. This is a trend that is not going anywhere as long as life expectancy continues to rise. Age of first marriage is also rising so this suggests that this is a choice men are also making. if men and women are marrying at a later age, isn't it logical that they will also have children at later ages and therefore creating need for fertility treatments?
you making a condescending comment that you "care" about women's bodies more than women themselves makes you look like a fool. Many of the women who are undergoing these procedures have supportive, educated and enlightened husbands. If you don't agree with it, no one is forcing you to marry and post-pone child birth. It's a matter of choice and women are allowed to have choice. they can marry early, marry late, focus on career, become housewives or whatever.men can also do the same. it is a matter of CHOICE.

abeg focus on your own health and stop starving yourself over women's reproductive rights issues. go and eat your food.

coogar:


kandiikane, you have the swag of a breaštfeeding nanny goat. what the heck is wrong with you? wretched life? my pet dog lives a far comfortable life than you do.

ewu ara!

TV01:

Your first post suggested there was not much there - this one confirms it. You couldn't respond to a single point and went on an unintelligible rant. Increased life expectancy is driving later marriage


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red101:


you made no logical point in your post.
Again, it's a matter of CHOICE for women. If this statement is unintelligible to you then tough luck.
what you call a "horror" is a blessing for many women.

besides, I never said life expectancy was driving later marriage. What I said is that increased life expectancy AND later marriages are contributing factors to late parenthood. and consequently late parenthood results in increased need for fertility treatment like the type that is the subject of this discussion.

Read clearly next time then maybe you will be less confused.

red101:
I certainly would especially if offered to me for free. It's a form of insurance.

TV01:
Carefreewannabe,

Your post - which was pure ad-hominem - and my response have both been hidden.

I have previously noted your quite spectacualr meltdown and increasing irrelevancy on this board. Your reputation in in tatters. However, you do appear to have recovered quite quickly from the long-hose rinsing I laid on you a few days ago. The migraine has obviously receded and the lockjaw eased somewhat. You are quite resilient, it must be said !


As to the stats in my last post, you are not disputing them - please apply a modicum of wisdom and take heed . And please don't derail if you have nothing to add - which is increasingly the case lately.

Please let me know if you need any help with rehab or rebranding yourself. I continue to pray for you - most especially that you never post any pictures !


Toodles


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carefreewannabe:
And what makes you think that I care about my cyber reputation?

carefreewannabe:
I am more concerned with showing people how dangerous hypocrisy and sciolism are. I don't give a damn what you and your likes think. The time when I used to argue with people in a civil way who do not deserve to be treated like my equals are over. I can only have healthy, matter-of-fact debates with healthy and intelligent people who know to distinguish between facts and beliefs; in other words with people who play in my league, Bundesliga.

carefreewannabe:
I don't like stvpid people but I have a stronger dislike for people who try to manipulate others with dangerous dogmas and twisted "faaaacts".

TV01:

Well that's a good thing, because right now you have zero credibility. I can see you on the "West" thread showing a pathetic desire for attention. How sad. Next stop desperate, then pathetic, then wretched - we watch in and with amusement, it's not like you ever added real value, so your fading into oblivion will be no great loss !


Delusion as well "
Frankly, you are the one who has clearly demonstrated an inability to stick to the matter at hand and discuss the facts. So desperate you took an advanced course in emoticon usage and then went on to master in giffology - unfortunately as dumb as we are here they don't compensate for a lack of facts or reasoned and considered debate. Your problem is not for want of equals, it's you keep getting rinsed by your betters. !


I don't see one factual rebuttal to the data that I posted above. Only - as is now quite typical - pained invective and slack jawed ad-hominem. And whatever you think of my intellect or reasoning, it's clearly sufficient to take a large crap on whatever you possess from a great height .

And lets not start on looks - all your huffing and puffing, gloating and gainsaying. Once you saw the pic you went deathly quiet. Literally struck dumb in the presence of beauty. Admit it, you have a "ladycrush" on my wife

Carefreewannabe - rinsed so hard she thought she was having an enema!


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carefreewannabe:
And what made you think I will read this crap?

TV01:

Not only will you read, you will read hungrily, eagerly wait for more, and pray fervently for further pictures of your "role model" family.


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carefreewannabe:


I can see you can be progressive, too. You were smart enough to figure out that I will not read more than a line of the crap you share here.

Role model?

A family that is into "church business", manipulating their sheep with useless dogmas to loot them?

coogar:


there's little or no truth in the biological clock of men. several other researches have proven there's no significant risk of down syndrome in men older age unlike the women. a woman's biological clock ticks 1,000 times faster than that of men.

[img]http://igniss.blog.hr/slike/l/autizam_sizofrenija_i_dijabetes_s_muskom_dobi.png[/img]

look at the red line(men) and black line(women). whose is worse?? there are hundreds of researches on the internet & in the cases where autism or down syndrome was found with older men, it was because the older men married older women.


http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/12771769/

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/6220960/?i=4&from=/19449414/related

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/19449414/?i=8&from=/12771769/related

TV01:

I’ll ask you just one question – would you sell that to someone you love as insurance?
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I can see we are both zealous for women’ best interest, but let that zeal not cloud the discussion.

TV01:
Women cannot build civilisations. In the same sense that they do not build homes, merely hang pretty curtains . It takes the structured ways of men to design, build construct and expand. To maintain order. Feminising it ultimately leads to ruin. It was Adams failure to grasp this and act in his capacity as a male lead that led to the fall.

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TV01:

I can see we are both zealous for women’ best interest, but let that zeal not cloud the discussion.

red101:
YES because I am a woman and I love myself and I will gladly freeze my eggs if It were offered to me at a price I can afford. It provides me with options and choices. It gives me the possibility to have a child at 25, 35 and 45. An option that would otherwise be very scarce.

red101:
a woman who merely wants to hang pretty curtains will not freeze her eggs. This technology is not targeted toward her. Do you think such a woman will be ambitious enough to even work at google?
For an ambitious woman who wants to do something more with her life. a woman who wants to become a builder, designer, constructor and leader is who this technology is designed for.
there are plenty of women who want to "hang pretty curtains" and there are also plenty of women who have more ambitious goals and dreams. That is the great thing about choice. people (as long as they are not slaves) are free to choose what they want to do and the problem arises when people like you are hellbent on limiting women's choices because you feel you are superior to women and will do anything you think will maintain such a status quo. rubbish.

red101:
seeing that I am a woman and all. I must have a smaller brain incapable of building or contributing anything tangible to society beside arranging curtains. I am so happy that you are zealous for my best interest. It is imperative that my domestic curtain arrangement skills do not become imperiled by my "immoral" goals to lead an organization one day or become a boss.......I say thanks but no thanks.

SirShymex:


Oh ok.

So, who's babygirlfl, and where's she posting from?

And are you also a feminist?