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Re: .... by onyengbu: 6:26pm On Oct 17, 2014 |
barcanista:This APC's north sef, does it include the middle belt? Muslim/muslim ticket in Nigeria today is a political suicide of highest order. You asked what has changed since 1993? Let me tell you, religious riots and boko haram has happened and over 50,000 lives has been lost. Thats what has changed. I just de pity una. PDP will be someplace wishing you are APC strategist. 9 Likes |
Re: .... by Nobody: 6:31pm On Oct 17, 2014 |
onyengbu:You don't know what you are saying, you assume that everyone thinks like you. Anyway the NC will be in APC's kitty next year |
Re: .... by patrickmuf(m): 6:36pm On Oct 17, 2014 |
In 2011, Buhari didn't get the vote he required from the SW not because he's not loved but because he didn't align with the powers that be (Tinubu) fast forward to 2015 and you'll see Tinubu and Buhari in the same fold... For those of you against a Muslim/Muslim ticket, is it performers or religious sentiments that governs your stance? I honestly think you guys dread Fashola for VP so y'all go on and on about the religion crap... Question is; If GMB picks a xtian as his running, will it lead to corresponding increase in vote? I think no... 2 Likes |
Re: .... by Nobody: 6:37pm On Oct 17, 2014 |
patrickmuf:They know that with a Fashola in the ticket it is a done deal. |
Re: .... by tit(f): 7:01pm On Oct 17, 2014 |
patrickmuf: This shows the appeal of the Jonathan presidency. While APC is appealing to primordial instincts of ethnicity and religion, hoping on moslim Fulani and Yoruba votes, PDP has warm reception outside the origins of their presidential nad vice presidential candidates. Jonthan/Sambo receive rousing receptions in the SW, NC, SE, NE and NW. Buhari/Tinubu can only campaign in enclaves outside Daura and Oshogbo (their ancestral homes). They do not have popular appeal across the length and bread 14 Likes |
Re: .... by Nobody: 7:15pm On Oct 17, 2014 |
barcanista: I'm afraid, but you just don't make much sense really 1. If Bakare wasn't a politician, what was he doing as a vice presidential candidate? who is a politician? 2. ACN was mainly a Yoruba party as at 2011, Adeola is a Yoruba, why did GEJ won all but one Yoruba state?? Here your statement again " Yorubas have always voted for a Yoruba Ticket" Who determines a serious Yoruba candidate? 3. You are talking about presidential poll, but in your bid to eulogise Yorubas and discredit the Igbos, you stated "The Yorubas are known to punish mediocrity but will reward whoever makes them feel important. This they did in 2007 by electing en masse AC for the guber poll against PDP incumbents" Voting out the incumbents makes them sophisticated, but when the Igbos does the same, it is no of your business? 4. You stated that Yorubas always vote for people who make them feel important... why not extend the same to the Igbos?? I ask again, what prevented GMB from campaigning in any of the SE states in 2011? because we are not important to him, why then do you cry blood about the Igbo voting en masse for GEJ? 5. What was the structure of APGA in 2003 when Ojukwu ran under it? what was the structure of Labour party when Mimiko ran under it? You don't need to have structure, the criteria has always been, once a Yoruba is on the ticket, you get 100% vote of the Yorubas 6. Finally, why won't the SS support their son GEJ? or that criteria is only reserved for the Yorubas? 7. GMB doesn't need the Igbo votes, yet after the election, you people won't desist from insulting them for making their own decision. Any it is trademark of APC to insult people who didn't vote, just ask Ekiti people 21 Likes |
Re: .... by Nobody: 7:24pm On Oct 17, 2014 |
tit: The problem is that they will always accuse GEJ when it was them (APC) who are really guilty of the crime. Remember it was GMB who told muslims to vote for muslim candidates only, now, barcanista has told us that Yoruba will only vote for their own. One wonders why APC is fully of hypocrisy 9 Likes |
Re: .... by omenka(m): 7:25pm On Oct 17, 2014 |
barcanista:I'm alright oo. Na one yeye antispambot do me strong thing. I'm back, guns blazing, like a cowboy from the 20's. |
Re: .... by Descartes: 7:27pm On Oct 17, 2014 |
Some 'political analysts' are distorting facts here. 1 Like |
Re: .... by EMANY01(m): 7:31pm On Oct 17, 2014 |
barcanista: Lol if you have to ask then you are not ready to honestly analyze TODAYS political trend in Nigeria. 9 Likes |
Re: .... by Cuche: 7:33pm On Oct 17, 2014 |
barcanista:Ojukwu didn't not lose in 2003, APGA won convincingly in all the SE states but the votes did not count. APGA was able to get Anambra through the Courts because the Govt. at the Centre was not happy with Ngige Personally, I don't think much has changed as par Votes having any significant meaning 4 Likes |
Re: .... by Cuche: 7:34pm On Oct 17, 2014 |
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Re: .... by Nobody: 7:36pm On Oct 17, 2014 |
omenka:I am beginning to suspect that antispambot |
Re: .... by Nobody: 7:38pm On Oct 17, 2014 |
datolee:You should learn to comprehend.... I never said that. |
Re: .... by munky(m): 7:45pm On Oct 17, 2014 |
when people gather just to condemn one section of the country because they believe they are superior the result is always negative. I respect Barcanista for his objective thoughts on this issue ( but I really don't know why he has a deep seated hatred for the igbo people). However, some Yoruba peeps on this thread started casting aspersions on the Igbo people just because a majority of Igbo people support Jonathan. please when making these arguments stick to the issues and stop abusing a whole tribe because of the presidential elections. APC and PDP are one and the same. The Igbos have good reasons to support Jonathan so also do the Yorubas have good reason to support Buhari. Everyone is looking for a way to remain relevant in the scheme of things. People forget that imo state in igbo heartland has an APC governor. so many igbos support APC. These ethnic and tribal politics won't move the country forward. Back to the topic. I still think PDP will win again because the opposition have not tried to appeal to all Nigerians. They have made it an us versus them fight. in this case he who wields the most power will win. That's my opinion. People remember in 2003, Tinubu and Bisi Akande campaigned for Obj based only on the fact that Obj was a Yoruba man. a word is enough for the wise. 11 Likes |
Re: .... by Nobody: 7:47pm On Oct 17, 2014 |
barcanista: "the Yorubas have always been voting enmasse for a ticket involving their son" "Yorubas have always voted for a Yoruba Ticket" "Having a popular Yoruba in the ticket will swing the all important SW vote to APC" Your words, not mine 9 Likes |
Re: .... by Nobody: 7:49pm On Oct 17, 2014 |
datolee:Those are my words, not this datolee:I never used the word "ONLY", and my words does not connote ONLY. |
Re: .... by EMANY01(m): 7:52pm On Oct 17, 2014 |
BlackTechnology: GBAM ............YOU HIT THE NAIL THEY HAVE BEEN HOPING NO ONE WILL NOTICE. They think the large population of kabo ,sokoto borno,(padded as they are) and even Lagos and the rest of the south west is exclusively indigenous.....the nerve of this people.... Kano has the highest population of non indigenes in the entire north possibly equal,if not more than that of the indigenous population Kaduna is split in half no need going into long talks Niger has a third or a fourth of the indigenous population rooting for Gej Lets not talk about Plateau we know how the roll Nassarawa is split in half possibly more for Gej Lets not talk about benue Taraba is split in half Kogi is split in half Most of the other northen states will still give Gej a substantial portion of the vote Now lets talk about the core APC south west:I am amused when you guys talk about securing the south west vote just so you know,Lagos(yes the Lagos you so rant and masturbate over )will in all probability give Gej two thirds of the vote at worst half. I do not need to speak for ekiti,even OSUN(prepare to be shocked) or ondo and ogun. You think even those states have only indigenous population abi(?). WAKE UP this is 2014 Nigeria is a little more integrated than that if anything the civil war they(the south west and the north) fought for worked too well(when the war ended going up north and west was the fastest means of recovery in the post war era hence the massive populations of southerners (south east ,and south south) in places other than their home lands). 5 Likes |
Re: .... by gratiaeo(m): 7:53pm On Oct 17, 2014 |
Only a foolish man will believe that APC can win Lagos with or without fashola as VP. Don't underestimate the population of other southerners in Lagos. Yoruba alone is not up to 50% in Lagos. 9 Likes |
Re: .... by EMANY01(m): 7:59pm On Oct 17, 2014 |
Double Post 1 Like |
Re: .... by Nobody: 8:00pm On Oct 17, 2014 |
munky:Politics is about interest. I would have been the Chief Campaigner of Jonathan if his policies protect the interest of the Ijaw people and Nigeria in general. However, there is a difference between supporting based on interest and based on tribalism and bigotry. For instance, in the forthcoming guber poll in Rivers State, I am behind the candidacy of either of Dagogo Peterside or Hon Tonye Princewill both Ijaws and to an extent Sen George Sekibo. My support for them is first, their credibility and I believe they have the potentials to bring development to the Riverine Area(My Primary constituency) as well as the entire Rivers State. However, in 2011, I(and majority riverine people) was behind the candidacy of Hon Rotimi Amaechi(from upland) ahead of Dr. Abiye Sekibo, a Riverine man from my own clan. It was because I saw that Sekibo have nothing to offer but mediocrity and trouble unlike Amaechi that performed in my town more than any governor in history(including Ada George from my town). I will be tribalistic to support a mediocre just because he's my tribesman when I know that he is a BIG flop. @OBJ 2003: Obj claimed in 2003 that his first term was aimed at redeeming our image, clearing our debt and putting mechanism in place to fix things. He claimed that 2003 will be total transformation-He ended up a flop though. If he had failed woefully in his first term, trust me he wouldn't have won SW. 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: .... by size38: 8:03pm On Oct 17, 2014 |
Good write up and calculation. As a south- south person, APC's best bet is to field a south westerner as Buhari's running mate. |
Re: .... by Adindupeter: 8:21pm On Oct 17, 2014 |
barcanista:Ijaw my asss. Fulani fool claiming Ijaw since the inception of nairaland 7 Likes |
Re: .... by Sibabasibaba1: 8:23pm On Oct 17, 2014 |
Another lame analysis standing logic on its head. Yorubas vote their sons and when reminded of 2011, the dance steps changed to Bakare and Adeola not being politicians bla, bla, bla. Is the premise no longer that Yorubas vote their sons? Pray! Are Bakare and Adeola Ibibio? Don't make categorical statements when you don't understand logic. And then he conveniently forgot that ABIMBOLA DAVIDS, a Yoruba went to court to scuttle June 12 and not Arthur Nzeribe. Cherry picking history! So much for an analyst. 13 Likes |
Re: .... by Nobody: 8:23pm On Oct 17, 2014 |
Adindupeter: I thought I was Yoruba o. Anyway, I will become a Taiwanese very soon 1 Like |
Re: .... by JEITO: 8:34pm On Oct 17, 2014 |
So why didn't Buhari win in 2011 that he fielded a popular yoruba man in the person of Tunde Bakare? Or Nuhu Ribadu that ran with Fola Adeola. 1 Like |
Re: .... by nigerianvenom(m): 8:50pm On Oct 17, 2014 |
u are the devils incarnate, why didnt u talked about 2011 that he choosed a popular yoruba man as a vp? why dont u tell us dat gani also contested but failed? 2 Likes |
Re: .... by Nobody: 9:01pm On Oct 17, 2014 |
No matter who Buhari choose as running mate it's GEJ till 2019 4 Likes |
Re: .... by anonimi: 9:04pm On Oct 17, 2014 |
barcanista: This clearly shows that you do not understand Nigerian politics. Obasanjo would still have won 2003 with ADEQUATE (even if not landslide) south west votes, given that his main opponent was clueless Buhari. 5 Likes |
Re: .... by akins56(m): 9:41pm On Oct 17, 2014 |
The main reason we voted for GEJ in 2011 presidential elections in the SW was that, we were sympatheric towards him, and we fell for his 'i dnt av a shoe' story, another major factor was that, nobody knew the likes of fola adeolu and bakare as politicians, infact, they are not popular, but now, every permutations have changed, GEJ is a complete failure, and the APC is more formidable, with a popular yoruba VP, whether muslim or xtian, the people here don't care, WE ARE VOTING ANYTHING APC!!! 2 Likes |
Re: .... by tit(f): 9:48pm On Oct 17, 2014 |
akins56: Do not make yourself seem stupid! This is not the reason the man in the street in Abeokuta voted for President Jonathan. Infacti, in 2015, President Jonathan will get twice the number of votes he got from the SW in 2011. We, PDP, is going to do operation "KKB". You heard it from me. The ground troops are being marshalled as I write and will sooon be deployed! Ha! It is going to be sweet. Stealing is not kworruption! Stealing is simple!! Kworruption is complex!!! 3 Likes |
Re: .... by Nobody: 10:26pm On Oct 17, 2014 |
1) It is only a foolish man will believe that the yorubas are upto 40% of Lagos state population. 2) it is only a foolish man will believe that yorubas are upto 60% of Ogun state population 3) it is only a foolish man that will believe that hausas are more than 50% of Kano state population. Fact: for every cities in Nigeria, aside the indegene, the second most populous group is the Igbos. Onye Barca aka Barcanista, Igbos wont vote for your lord and master Buhari. So stop hating and face the bitter truth. #unfollowuselessanalyst.... 2 Likes |
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